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Title: Ninja (Gaiden) Ryukenden 1st level music is 1st on PCE
Post by: Bengr Hausve on November 14, 2017, 03:57:52 PM
Forget your childhood feelings.  8) Kenji Yamazaki made a better Ninja Gaiden level 01 song for the PCE musically, than the NES. He nailed 30 seconds into a hit. Agree?

Here's the song inside the full OST, from 0:00 to 1:11 : https://youtu.be/K5ZQFR1NtYU (https://youtu.be/K5ZQFR1NtYU)

Here's the song with gameplay: https://youtu.be/rj_nZdlr9bU?t=1m38s (https://youtu.be/rj_nZdlr9bU?t=1m38s)

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Title: Re: Ninja (Gaiden) Ryukenden 1st level music is 1st on PCE
Post by: AdrianTepes on November 14, 2017, 09:26:29 PM
While I still like the NES OST of Ninja Gaiden better, I have to agree with you that PCE's its a great tune. I feel PCE's OST is highly underrated, probably because most people always were used to the NES one and never took the time to actually listen and appreciate it too. The Arcade game also has an amazing 1st level song (and OST) that almost nobody talks about, Shadow Soldier (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fELs30oH4ik).
Title: Re: Ninja (Gaiden) Ryukenden 1st level music is 1st on PCE
Post by: Bengr Hausve on November 15, 2017, 07:07:14 AM
Thank you for bringing "Ninja Gaiden Arcade - Stage 1 BGM" SHADOW SOLDIER unto my attention, Jorge!  8) The PCE stage 01 made it's business in 30 seconds (and that's why it's awesome), but a full fledged, banging song is great, too!
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Oh and I love the NES stage 1 tune, also. It's real clever, putting samples together, mixing it up in a way, that one could think the song is endless! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRpcMlFYjZg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRpcMlFYjZg)

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Title: Re: Ninja (Gaiden) Ryukenden 1st level music is 1st on PCE
Post by: PFG9000 on November 15, 2017, 09:43:44 AM
I like the PCE version's music, but the NES version is still the better one in my mind.  Yes, I'm blinded by nostalgia, since I grew up with the NES version.  But I've been playing the PCE version for about 15 years now, so it's got its own spot on my nostalgia shelf.
Title: Re: Ninja (Gaiden) Ryukenden 1st level music is 1st on PCE
Post by: X on November 15, 2017, 09:53:41 AM
After listening to both I feel the NES stage 1 theme is better then the PCE version, putting nostalgia aside of course. I'm not sure which game came out first but the NES version just sounds like a better composition.
Title: Re: Ninja (Gaiden) Ryukenden 1st level music is 1st on PCE
Post by: BLOOD MONKEY on November 15, 2017, 05:15:32 PM
The PCE has good tunes, but they're generic and grate-y. They lack emotion (compare pce and nes opening), and the percussion is very simple. The balance is also very poor in PCE, with almost none of the synth the PCE can do used. The NES musician better understood the system he was working with and how to balance.
Title: Re: Ninja (Gaiden) Ryukenden 1st level music is 1st on PCE
Post by: PFG9000 on November 16, 2017, 09:07:59 PM
I played through the first few stages of the PCE version again tonight (up to that asshole Basaquer).  I feel like the entire soundtrack up to that point is a step back from the NES version.  Again, nostalgia probably has a little to do with this, but I paid close attention to the music and some of it is downright boring compared to the NES versions.  Though I did come away from it thinking I should burn the PCE soundtrack so I can listen to it more, which is far more than I can say for lots of retro games.
Title: Re: Ninja (Gaiden) Ryukenden 1st level music is 1st on PCE
Post by: Bengr Hausve on November 27, 2017, 03:30:28 AM
How about the Ninja Gaiden stage 01 music on SMS?
Title: Re: Ninja (Gaiden) Ryukenden 1st level music is 1st on PCE
Post by: BLOOD MONKEY on November 27, 2017, 02:20:03 PM
How about the Ninja Gaiden stage 01 music on SMS?

I love it
Title: Re: Ninja (Gaiden) Ryukenden 1st level music is 1st on PCE
Post by: X on November 27, 2017, 06:00:59 PM
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How about the Ninja Gaiden stage 01 music on SMS?

I gave this one a listen-too as well. Not digging it as much as the other theme. Granted, the themes are both different from one-another, however the NES one still stands out for me. What i do like out of the SMS version is that Ryu has better running animations.
Title: Re: Ninja (Gaiden) Ryukenden 1st level music is 1st on PCE
Post by: Bengr Hausve on December 11, 2017, 05:23:00 AM
How about this? Same ost. I think Yamazaki struct gold. https://youtu.be/K5ZQFR1NtYU?t=4m30s
Title: Re: Ninja (Gaiden) Ryukenden 1st level music is 1st on PCE
Post by: Crying Freeman on December 12, 2017, 06:03:00 PM
Some of the tracks on PCE NG are fantastic.Stage 1 and the credits give some good atmosphere for the game's new look. The new control made the game fun in a different way from the NES version. The choppy background scrolling almost kills the game though. They should've just made still backgrounds.