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Title: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: A n t r a x x on January 12, 2009, 05:03:03 PM
It's out! Go get it! :)

The best thing to ever happen to the NES, can now be right there on your Wii menu for whenever you feel like experiencing its awesomeness again.

For $5 (500 Wii points) it's an absolute must for CV fans who own a Wii. And for those who don't get why 8-bit is gold, this may very well school you.

Here's IGN's review:

http://wii.ign.com/articles/943/943933p1.html

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Here's the one we've been waiting for.


I bought it right away and am playing it now
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: Rodriguezjr on January 12, 2009, 06:21:33 PM
About time.
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: Saroor on January 12, 2009, 07:49:08 PM
I check the new vc releases for this every week. I was so happy today when I saw CV3. Awesome. I actually wrote Konami letters begging for this, because I am lame that way I guess.
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: LBPHeretic on January 12, 2009, 08:31:05 PM
Finally! It's been some time since we've seen something worthwhile as a download in the Wii Virtual Console. 8)

Indeed, I can't think of anything released in recent times more worth the 500 Wii points than CV3: Dracula's Curse. I've already downloaded my copy of it even though I still retain my original NES cartridge, box, and manual. That IGN review was very good too and I think the rating of a 9 out of 10 was excellent for such a great game. Thank you for posting the link to that. :)
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: RichterX on January 12, 2009, 11:38:47 PM
Ah good for the VC, I'll add it to my HomeBrew channel because of its release. =P

Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: A n t r a x x on January 13, 2009, 02:02:59 AM
Ah good for the VC, I'll add it to my HomeBrew channel because of its release. =P



It's $5 dude...  ???
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: Rugal on January 13, 2009, 05:35:17 AM
I own the original cart with sleeve, box, and instruction book. I'm not paying $5 to rebuy the game.
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: uzo on January 13, 2009, 07:42:43 AM
Already had the retranslated superior looking and sounding, CV3(j) on my Wii a long long time ago. Not paying for an inferior version.
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: Reinhart77 on January 13, 2009, 09:55:32 AM
Hallelujah, it's out!  I got the cart, but no workable NES to play it on.  I'll eat this up and enjoy not having to save passwords every time.  I'm going to try to beat it without the Help Me name for once in my life.
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: RichterX on January 13, 2009, 04:59:46 PM
I have the cart for the game Antraxx, and why pay 5 when I could get it for free.
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on January 13, 2009, 07:19:11 PM
They were waiting for My Birthday to release it.  :) :) :)

Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: Xadion on January 14, 2009, 06:46:51 AM
Just as I finished CV2 (that I love replaying) CV3 comes out...

Wife "Did you beat the game!? (cv2"
Me "Yeah!"
Wife "Awsome! your soo good baby!.....Now you can stop playing the damn thing!"

now

Me "CV3 is out!"
Wife "Ill be at my moms"

Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: mistressalucard on January 14, 2009, 08:05:28 AM
Are you kidding, yay!
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: LBPHeretic on January 14, 2009, 08:21:26 AM
You need the classic controller though, right?

I'm pretty sure you can use a GameCube Controller with CV3: Dracula's Curse. Heck, you can even use the Wii Remote turned on its side as it has all the necessary buttons to play NES games. ;)

I hope you enjoy the game. I know I will be very soon. :)
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: A n t r a x x on January 14, 2009, 03:08:24 PM
Heck, you can even use the Wii Remote turned on its side as it has all the necessary buttons to play NES games. ;)

That's how I play most of the NES releases ;)

...Feels the most like an NES pad ('cept placement of Start/Select).
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: Abnormal Freak on January 18, 2009, 05:07:02 AM
Already had the retranslated superior looking and sounding, CV3(j) on my Wii a long long time ago. Not paying for an inferior version.

This. (Even though there's nothing re-translated about it--it's just the text ripped from the English version of the game and hacked into the Japanese game, unless there's a different version out, an actual fan translation.)

Plus, FCE Ultra GX has an option to display the game 4:3 on a widescreen display. And it doesn't take up space on my Wii storage. AND I can configure the B and A buttons to Y and B respectively, which feels far more natural.

Fuck Nintendo. Too little too late. I would have paid for this a year ago, but when hackers create stuff that's better than the official services that you have to pay for, I know what I'd much rather go with. And seeing as how the superior version of the game will never see the light of day in the US, I'd say I'm making the right decision.
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: Long John Silver on January 18, 2009, 05:44:43 AM
In Reply To #17

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(Even though there's nothing re-translated about it--it's just the text ripped from the English version of the game and hacked into the Japanese game, unless there's a different version out, an actual fan translation.)

there is. you're missing out if you got the copypasta version rather than the retranslated one.
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on January 18, 2009, 07:21:11 AM
In Reply To All,

It seems to look better than the ROM using FCEUGX.  I don't know what it is about it, though... here's what I noticed:

1. The game fits on the entire screen, in comparison to the FCEUGX which, even if you play with the aspect ratios and whatnot, always manages to either look wrong, or chop off a bit of the resolution (usually the lettering around the Score or the Block Number).  I can't get it to display correctly.  The VC game fits perfectly on the screen.

2. There's something about the choice of colors the Wii NES VC use... it seems... 'darker' than the emulator.  If someone can grab the palette file from this I'd love to load it as a custom palette in FCEUGX.  It just reminds me of the old days I used to play the game in front of the TV a while ago, not the squeaky clean bright palette the computers seem to use.

3. Music seems smoother.  This might actually be inferior music in comparison or something, but it's got just the right amount of bass, etc.

It could be that Nintendo's NES Emulation code is perfect, or something... I too have HBC and have played CVIII and CVIIIJ (though I do not have ReTranslated CVIIIJ), but as a fan of the series, it's not going out of my way to support Konami and getting a $5 NES game.

I spend more on coffee daily.
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: darkjak951 on January 18, 2009, 09:34:22 AM
Oh yes! Finally, I have waited a year for this to come to the virtual console!! I am so downloading it :D
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: uzo on January 18, 2009, 11:45:59 AM
2. There's something about the choice of colors the Wii NES VC use... it seems... 'darker' than the emulator.

Yes. That is what I like about the VC the best. Those are the actual NES colors. I haven't seen an emulator yet to actually have those. If someone could inject the retranslated ROM into CV3 on VC, then that would be awesome.
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: Abnormal Freak on January 18, 2009, 02:08:43 PM
I haven't really checked the aspect ratio of CVIII yet, since I haven't really played it on the Wii emulator, but I know more recent versions tend to show everything, or so it seems. I compared CVI, anyway, and FCEUGX was showing more.

As for the Virtual Console NES colors, I think they look too dark. I fired up my actual NES cartridge on my NES2, and it doesn't look that dark. But yeah, the FCEUGX color palettes are too bright, or too wonky. Can't find one that's just right, but oh well.

Where can this fan-translated CVIII-J be found? I usually just check Romhacking.net for patches, and they have nothing. Somebody PM me a link or something.
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: Abnormal Freak on January 18, 2009, 05:57:33 PM
Oh, and I can't even get access to the Shop Channel anyway, lulz. I wasn't sure if it'd be safe to update to the latest firmware, or if it would erase The Homebrew Channel. I also don't know where to look to download the replacement/hacked Shop Channel or whatever.
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on January 18, 2009, 06:03:32 PM
In Reply To #23

There's a "Shop Channel Updater" app you wanna download for your HBC.  You can get it off of wiibrew.org.  :)
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: Abnormal Freak on January 18, 2009, 06:13:22 PM
Otay o. o Last night I had searched "shop channel" on WiiBrew but got dick-all.

I still can't even find it when browsing their apps list. Perhaps it got removed.
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: Aridale on January 18, 2009, 07:15:03 PM
I wanna know where this retranslated cv3 is too.
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: Long John Silver on January 18, 2009, 08:12:32 PM
well before chapel's server died it was hosted there, but now seeing as the host itself went bankrupt it'll probably take some time to return.

other than that google. you'll know you found it if its title is "akumajyou densetsu" or something in a redrawn english font.
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: uzo on January 19, 2009, 05:35:13 AM
Otay o. o Last night I had searched "shop channel" on WiiBrew but got dick-all.

I still can't even find it when browsing their apps list. Perhaps it got removed.

http://wiibrew.org/wiki/Wii_Shop_and_IOS51_installer
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: silvermoonlight on January 19, 2009, 11:27:51 AM
Muahhahaha!
It soon shall be mine!
*purchases wii points*
 ;D
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: A n t r a x x on January 19, 2009, 11:31:17 PM
Gawd, I love this game :3
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: Omegasigma on January 21, 2009, 09:00:56 PM
funynpart is i've had the game for some time on the wii, i will buy it tho, i do wish i could buy rondo properly since its on my menu as a jap import title
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: Abnormal Freak on January 24, 2009, 05:44:30 PM
I fired up FCE Ultra GX last night, Jorge, and noticed no cropping on CVIII. All the text at the top is perfectly visible on the sides and top. Ya just gotta turn off cropping, which is on the later versions of the emulator.

Comparing CVI, the Virtual Console version definitely shows more horizontally, but it's not such a big deal. It actually shows much more than an SDTV does playing the game on an NES, so I'm fine with what the emulator shows.

But yeah, it would be nice to have a more correct palette. I still feel the VC games are darker than what an actual NES puts out, but then, I haven't compared side-by-side or anything.

On another note, I like that the latest versions of Snes9x GX have a better 16:9 correction option. I hadn't updated in a while, so when I got my HDTV, I fired up the emulator, and it was displaying the games in a more box-shaped display, just as the games were developed, but that's not necessarily cool with me. So I'm glad that the later versions display the games 4:3. Not only that, but they have more viewing space on the top and bottom of the picture. Super Mario Kart used to be missing visual information on the top, but now it's all there.

Ah, these things just keep getting better and better. Now if only Genesis Plus offered a 16:9 correction option. Also, I'm not sure what to set the rendering to. "Progressive" is perhaps more fitting for my TV, and the screen doesn't tweak out every time I go to the menu, but there's a strange motion blur, even with all the filters turned off. Having the render option set to "Original" looks much sharper in motion.
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: Kamirine on January 26, 2009, 08:50:28 AM
In Reply To #30

So do I.  I have no clue why I'm downloading it since I have the original on Nintendo but...I'm lazy. And don't wanna have to hook up said Nintendo.  ;D
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: A n t r a x x on January 26, 2009, 11:18:24 PM
It's just cool having it RIGHT THERE on you Wii menu.  You're more apt to want to play it since it's staring right back at you when you go to play Mario Kart or whatever.  Also, that doubles if it's vs an illegal rom, because if you paid $5 for it, you're more willing to force yourself to get your money's worth by playing it.  Finally, it's just that good of a game :)

Me, I have all three CVs in cart form for the NES but no NES to play said CVs.  So this is great for me.  Although I do own Cv1 for the GBA too. (I have not yet d/l Cv1 or 2 for VC)
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: Dr. Mario on January 26, 2009, 11:25:10 PM
Oooh looks like I'll be able to get Cadence of Agony on my Wii without too many problems...
I used fucking CV2 for Chorus of Mysteries, thinking it wouldn't matter, and it has all kinds of problems.
Oh and...
Already had the retranslated superior looking and sounding, CV3(j) on my Wii a long long time ago. Not paying for an inferior version.
Rofl, uzo only likes that version because it's Japanese.
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: Abnormal Freak on January 27, 2009, 12:26:20 AM
because if you paid $5 for it, you're more willing to force yourself to get your money's worth by playing it.

lol, that's never worked for me. I buy a lot of things and thus have too many games, movies, and CDs I haven't spent much or any time with. Sometimes I play with my pirated stuff more.

Although now that I can get Club Nintendo coins from Virtual Console downloads...I may consider buying.
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: uzo on January 27, 2009, 05:08:47 AM
In Reply To #35

I like it because it has superior music, graphics, and is translated into English.

Fail at troll.
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: justin312 on January 27, 2009, 05:41:24 AM
Now that CVIII has been released, does anyone know if there are plans to release Rondo of Blood (original version, not the SNES port) on the Virtual Console in North America?  Or Bloodlines from the Genesis?
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: Marty Belmont on January 27, 2009, 08:04:05 AM

in the american version's defense, it does have several extra features to make up for the lack of technical capability, namely the codes that let you start the game with any of the partners, thus letting you visit any stage with them.

also, I think some of the music is better arranged in the American Version. ("Rising" being one example)

also, it's more challanging.


I'm 100% sure we'll get bloodlines eventually, as for rondo, I'm cautiously optimistic
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: Dr. Mario on January 28, 2009, 11:10:12 AM
Not to go too off topic here (don't worry, I'll get back on after I give out this nugget of knowledge) Yeah, actually if you want to break it down on a technical level the US version is far superior to the Japanese version. Superior graphics only = non-censored graphics. The US version used a much more advanced mapper than the Japanese version did, allowing for some more advanced graphical effects. They also improved on some gameplay elements of it when the localized it for American audiences. Actually the only advancement the Japanese version had over it was the music.

Anyhoo, I'm probably not going to buy this, seeing how I bought the actual NES version within the past year for about the same price. It would seem like an awfully huge waste of money to me.
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: uzo on January 28, 2009, 01:27:12 PM
In Reply To #40

Completely wrong. The Japanese title had the more advanced graphics. Just watch both of the introduction sequences on youtube. The difference is very clear.

EDIT: Links.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SJaF8no9t0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGXEPt852IY
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: Dr. Mario on January 28, 2009, 03:34:57 PM
I mean you can say I'm completely wrong, but I'm actually working with the US version of Caslevania 3, and know what it's capable of.
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: LBPHeretic on January 28, 2009, 04:22:08 PM
This is just a friendly reminder. Uzo and Dr. Mario, please try and stay on topic. :)

This thread wasn't originally intended to debate the pros and cons of the USA and Japan versions of CV3: Dracula's Curse. That subject has already been discussed, at length, in numerous threads in the past. ;)
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: Long John Silver on January 29, 2009, 05:37:09 AM
it's still more interesting than hearing 20+ people saying "oh man i'll buy it" "i wont i already have it" "i pirated it instead, fuck you konami" over and over.
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: LBPHeretic on January 29, 2009, 02:33:41 PM
In Reply To #44

If that's what was to be the result of the original topic of this thread, then so be it. Whether or not that particular type of banter annoys you, personally, is irrelevant. You don't like what you're reading in this thread? There's plenty of other threads available that may be less aggravating for you to peruse. ;)

I, for one, purchased the game on the Wii's Virtual Console because I like supporting the companies that make the games that I enjoy playing. Even if CV3: Dracula's Curse is over two decades old now and I already own a copy of the actual cartridge, it seemed worth it to me. :)
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: Dr. Mario on January 29, 2009, 04:49:42 PM
If I wouldn't have just purchased the NES cart within the past year or so, I probably would have purchased the VC version, but that definitely seems like spending my money twice on the same thing. I dunno, I think it has to do more with my personal time frame. I'll probably pirate it around when my hack is done, just for the sake of putting my hack in there instead of CV3, but that's about it.
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: Long John Silver on January 29, 2009, 06:34:09 PM
In Reply To #45
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If that's what was to be the result of the original topic of this thread, then so be it. Whether or not that particular type of banter annoys you, personally, is irrelevant. You don't like what you're reading in this thread? There's plenty of other threads available that may be less aggravating for you to peruse.
0/10

no, that type of posts doesn't annoy me, it's just really boring and a perfect way to quickly kill a thread. where did you get that idea? ::)

but when people tried to make the topic naturally evolve into something more interesting you came crashing on it as if they turned it into a viagra advertising, cv powerlevels or a megaman appreciation, something that's no longer about cv3. ;D

on topic, i have no wii console, but even if i did i'd still pirate the game, just because i know it'd cause many people on forums to cry in anguish, and because the only kind of games i pay for is physical copies for the intended systems, not a rom file to use in some featureless emulator.

i can get roms for free, but i can't get a free box art, manual and a physical copy that'll last for long time without the chance of losing it in some disk crash, or emulating it and getting less than perfect/desired effects.
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: The Last Belmont on January 29, 2009, 06:45:09 PM
Already had the retranslated superior looking and sounding, CV3(j) on my Wii a long long time ago. Not paying for an inferior version.

Yeah the original version really is better all around.
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: LBPHeretic on January 29, 2009, 07:44:18 PM

0/10

no, that type of posts doesn't annoy me, it's just really boring and a perfect way to quickly kill a thread. where did you get that idea? ::)

but when people tried to make the topic naturally evolve into something more interesting you came crashing on it as if they turned it into a viagra advertising, cv powerlevels or a megaman appreciation, something that's no longer about cv3. ;D

As much of a shock as this may be to you, threads in this forum don't need the "Serio Stamp of Approval" to be a viable means of discussion regarding the original poster's intended topic's subject matter. Your opinion on how a thread should be born, live, and die, has been duly noted. ;)

Now, lets please move on. This thread isn't getting any younger. 8)
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: Long John Silver on January 30, 2009, 04:35:03 AM
In Reply To #49

as shocked as i am, my post wasn't supposed to be a stamp of approval, but just a slight jab at you babysitting others. just directing them to pms would suffice. ;)

but anyway, yes, mein furher. ;D

also on slightly different, drama-less topic but still relevant since it was already discussed here, i really doubt rondo will appear on vc. it did a short time ago on psp, and other than that it had no english release.

they'd either have to port the psp one or retranslate it, because as this release here shown they don't give jap games to usa people. :o
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: Abnormal Freak on January 30, 2009, 10:08:28 AM
they'd either have to port the psp one or retranslate it, because as this release here shown they don't give jap games to usa people. :o

Sin & Punishment O:
DoReMi Fantasy :O

The latter doesn't even have any English text during the cutscenes--nothing was changed. I see no reason why with Rondo they couldn't just fuse the game with the English audio, which sounds like it was done with TurboGrafx equipment anyway so it probably was. But even if they didn't, Nintendo would likely still be fine with allowing the release of an untranslated version.

But eh, I already pirated it. ;) (Keeping in tune with the discussion that annoys.)
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: A n t r a x x on January 30, 2009, 01:36:57 PM
I think Rondo will come for VC... just not anytime soon.
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: LBPHeretic on January 30, 2009, 05:56:34 PM
as shocked as i am, my post wasn't supposed to be a stamp of approval, but just a slight jab at you babysitting others. just directing them to pms would suffice. ;)

but anyway, yes, mein furher. ;D

Indeed, and you could take your own advice and instead of publicly chastising me, for my brand of moderation, you could Private Message me with your perspectives and ideas. Oh, and referring to me as your "f
Title: Re: Dracula's Curse (Wii VC)
Post by: Kamirine on January 31, 2009, 09:18:30 AM
It's just cool having it RIGHT THERE on you Wii menu.  You're more apt to want to play it since it's staring right back at you when you go to play Mario Kart or whatever.  Also, that doubles if it's vs an illegal rom, because if you paid $5 for it, you're more willing to force yourself to get your money's worth by playing it.  Finally, it's just that good of a game :)

Me, I have all three CVs in cart form for the NES but no NES to play said CVs.  So this is great for me.  Although I do own Cv1 for the GBA too. (I have not yet d/l Cv1 or 2 for VC)

I'll admit, I've been more inclined to play it since it is right there. And it's got a lot of my friends and boyfriend playing it just to play the game their precious Grant is originally from. (They really like him from Judgment.) So hey: whatever works.  ;D