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« Reply #975 on: May 23, 2012, 11:02:43 PM »
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I hope a proper Death is introduced. I didn't like how LoS insinuated that Zobek is his equivalence.

Eh, I kind of like the new route they're taking with Death, but I can definitely see where it would be lacking.

Though I never understood why Death served Dracula. If he's really a primeval spirit, Dracula shouldn't have had any hold over him. Was this explained thoroughly in Lament? I never finished it.

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« Reply #976 on: May 23, 2012, 11:04:17 PM »
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Yeah, it was covered in Lament, but I doubt that explanation applies to Lords of Shadow's universe.

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« Reply #977 on: May 23, 2012, 11:04:39 PM »
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Though I never understood why Death served Dracula. If he's really a primeval spirit, Dracula shouldn't have had any hold over him. Was this explained thoroughly in Lament? I never finished it.
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« Reply #978 on: May 23, 2012, 11:05:57 PM »
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Eh, I kind of like the new route they're taking with Death, but I can definitely see where it would be lacking.

Though I never understood why Death served Dracula. If he's really a primeval spirit, Dracula shouldn't have had any hold over him. Was this explained thoroughly in Lament? I never finished it.

I agree. I would assume that Death would be Dracula's superior. Didn't Lament mention that he was being controlled by a stone?

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« Reply #979 on: May 23, 2012, 11:06:06 PM »
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By the magic of an alchemic stone. Isn't it? (Not so fancy, I know)

So he's just enslaved?

Makes Zobek sound more powerful, to be honest >.>

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« Reply #980 on: May 23, 2012, 11:07:40 PM »
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So he's just enslaved?

Makes Zobek sound more powerful, to be honest >.>

Meh...I'd rather Death be the actual Grim Reaper..

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« Reply #981 on: May 23, 2012, 11:09:41 PM »
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Meh...I'd rather Death be the actual Grim Reaper..

Agreed, though I'm not sure how he'd fit in now that Satan has shown up.

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« Reply #982 on: May 23, 2012, 11:10:30 PM »
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Agreed, though I'm not sure how he'd fit in now that Satan has shown up.

He'd be the soul collector.

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« Reply #983 on: May 23, 2012, 11:13:29 PM »
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If Zobek is truly Death's "replacement" in the Lords of Shadow universe, Mr Dracul apparently goes without his primary ally for several hundred years...

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« Reply #984 on: May 23, 2012, 11:14:12 PM »
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He'd be the soul collector.

So, now that the two are no longer allies, would he be on Satan's side, or Dracula's?

If Zobek is truly Death's "replacement" in the Lords of Shadow universe, Mr Dracul apparently goes without his primary ally for several hundred years...

Not necessarily. Zobek and Dracul could have had a falling out somewhere along the line. After all, Zobek does admit that Dracul was once mighty.
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« Reply #985 on: May 23, 2012, 11:14:35 PM »
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So he's just enslaved?

Makes Zobek sound more powerful, to be honest >.>

I'm not sure it ever really comes off that way in Lament. It just says he serves whoever has the stone. I could've missed some line of dialogue where it's implied to be more of an enslavement though, since it's been a long time since I've played Lament, but Death doesn't get much face-time in that game so I can't imagine where it'd be. Also, the way he's portrayed and the circumstances actually make him come off looking relatively badass:
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« Reply #986 on: May 23, 2012, 11:18:35 PM »
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« Reply #987 on: May 23, 2012, 11:25:22 PM »
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So, now that the two are no longer allies, would he be on Satan's side, or Dracula's?

Maybe Death worked for Satan until Gabriel/Dracula defeated Death in battle. Since he was the first ever to do so he was forced to pledge allegiance to Gabriel/Dracula.

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« Reply #988 on: May 23, 2012, 11:27:51 PM »
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Yeah they never really explain WHY Death is bound to some magical macguffin like the crimson stone, but most other CV games seem to count Death as Dracula's confidante and friend. His ONLY friend.

If I recall, it's more based around the concept of Japanese death Gods that the idea arose that he isnt the grim reaper, but just "a" Death God. Or just some powerful necromancer much like Zobek.
of course I dont think the games themselves ever really went there.

I actually find it interesting that they can be friends, given how their connection works. Im guessing that simply after so long a time of being together they simply bonded. But now, if someone else theoretically acquired the stone, would that mean Death would betray and abandon Dracula?
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« Reply #989 on: May 23, 2012, 11:30:09 PM »
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Yeah they never really explain WHY Death is bound to some magical macguffin like the crimson stone, but most other CV games seem to count Death as Dracula's confidante and friend. His ONLY friend.

If I recall, it's more based around the concept of Japanese death Gods that the idea arose that he isnt the grim reaper, but just "a" Death God. Or just some powerful necromancer much like Zobek.
of course I dont think the games themselves ever really went there.

I actually find it interesting that they can be friends, given how their connection works. Im guessing that simply after so long a time of being together they simply bonded. But now, if someone else theoretically acquired the stone, would that mean Death would betray and abandon Dracula?

According to games like HoD it seems like Death really cares about Dracula.

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