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Title: Castlevania: Lords of Shadow - Mirror of Fate 3DS (Discussion Thread)
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 08:46:12 AM
Castlevania: Mirror of Faith


- Mirror of Fate exists
- Made for 3DS
- Game is compatible with LoS2
- Not sure who is developing yet. The original leak says Mercury Steam but this may be false when taking into account Cox's comment on the rumor. The Paul Gale article also didn't want to reveal who is making it, suggesting it might be a suprise. Plus it contains a picture of IGA which might be a hint.       

- LoS 2 exists
- developed for PS3, Xbox360, Vita, WiiU
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Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 08:46:50 AM
Now I wait and hope for an announcement of a Vita Castlevania game and my life is complete.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Kingshango on May 21, 2012, 08:47:13 AM
Shit Just Got Real HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUH3JQjcweM#ws)
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Nagumo on May 21, 2012, 08:48:25 AM
Wow, this sucks.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 08:48:33 AM
Shit Just Got Real HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUH3JQjcweM#ws)

I'm excited, because I have a 3ds but I convinced my brother to get a vita and he's a huge fan of the series so I'm really hoping the Lords of shadow sequel has a vita version....... I mean it'd be weird to leave the vita out right? So powerful....

3ds castlevania with 3d graphics will be sick though..
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 08:49:59 AM
I won't understand the hate from this...

Does everyone actually appreciate the laziness of Iga's team? They recycle more than they created, half the areas in their most recent games are copy and paste box rooms over and over again. Lords of shadow wasn't perfect but it sure was far more creative and inspired as far as level design goes.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Chernabogue on May 21, 2012, 08:56:03 AM
No pic, no video, no nothing? I'm not sure it is real so far, but we'll get fixed ina  few weeks.

Time to buy a 3DS then (also for KH3D).
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Kingshango on May 21, 2012, 08:57:57 AM
Everything is falling into place, just like he said it would.

Shit im scared now.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Chernabogue on May 21, 2012, 09:00:43 AM
Google translation, for those who don't read NL:

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Konami has a big E3 surprise no secret to keep.

Konami is currently working on a 3DS-exclusive Castlevania game called Castlevania: Mirror of Faith. This is evident from the appointment schedule that Konami made ​​for this year's E3. After the highly successful Nintendo DS parts Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow, Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin and Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia Nintendo 3DS owners can therefore look forward to a brand new handheld adventure in the Castlevania series.

There is content and gameplay is nothing known of the game. The only thing currently known is that David Cox, producer of Castlevania: Lords of Shadow, and Enric Alvarez, Director / Writer of Castlevania: Lords of Shadow, the game works.

Konami, the game at E3 this year, taking place from 5 to 7 June, officially reveal.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Gecko on May 21, 2012, 09:03:22 AM
So much pessimism in this thread.  :rollseyes:

No one is excited to see a new handheld Castlevania title? We don't even know anything about it yet. Sure, it could end up being terrible and disappointing, but it could also be a blast. We just have to wait and find out. We don't even know what the game's style will be yet, 2d or 3d, game mechanics, story, etc. I'm staying neutral until I see something.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Kingshango on May 21, 2012, 09:07:47 AM
So much pessimism in this thread.  :rollseyes:

No one is excited to see a new handheld Castlevania title? We don't even know anything about it yet. Sure, it could end up being terrible and disappointing, but it could also be a blast. We just have to wait and find out. We don't even know what the game's style will be yet, 2d or 3d, game mechanics, story, etc. I'm staying neutral until I see something.

Can't really blame them for feelin that way. Lords burned alot of people and anything related to it(weather it be a 2D Metroidvania game or not) will be greeted with closed arms unless they REALLY like what they See.

If the leaker was right about the gameplay and such then Im more than excited for this unless Mercurysteam managed to screw it up badly.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Charlotte-nyo:3 on May 21, 2012, 09:12:58 AM
(http://i4.ytimg.com/vi/KYD46Q0a3Qo/hqdefault.jpg)

We don't even know anything about it yet. Sure, it could end up being terrible and disappointing, but it could also be a blast. We just have to wait and find out. We don't even know what the game's style will be yet, 2d or 3d
It's Cox and Lords' director; I assure you, it's not 2D. If this is true anyway, but it was all but expected.

Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: crisis on May 21, 2012, 09:19:08 AM
Mirror of Faith is a dumb subtitle.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Kaori on May 21, 2012, 09:21:16 AM
I'll need to see more about this first before I make any judgements (if it is real). Just as long as it's not like too much like LoS, I'll be fine with it.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Rugal on May 21, 2012, 09:21:43 AM
I was excited until I read the part about David Cox working on the game. Prepare for another Lord of the Rings spinoff.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Kingshango on May 21, 2012, 09:26:46 AM
Surprisingly they didn't mention the other one, only the 3DS game.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Maedhros on May 21, 2012, 09:35:51 AM
Fuck, I only hope it's 2D gameplay. I don't really care if I'll have to play with Gaybriel or not, just give me 2D gameplay and I'm in.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Koutei on May 21, 2012, 09:37:17 AM
Castlevania: IGA of False
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: uzo on May 21, 2012, 09:37:52 AM
*makes the sign of the cross*

2D Castlevania, we knew thee well. May you rest in peace.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Pemburu Vampir on May 21, 2012, 09:38:18 AM
I can't wait to see the screenshots!
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Inccubus on May 21, 2012, 09:38:27 AM
@Kingshango: Not surprised at all. The 3DS game has to have been in production long before anything for Vita was even on the drawing boards.

@Maedhros: Seriously doubt on the the 2D gameplay since they're actively trying to run away from everything that was a norm in the elder series.

Also not surprised that Cox and Alvarez are working on it since it was hinted at ages ago.

Hopefully they listened to fan complaints and are veering away from the LotR feel that the first game had in distasteful amounts.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 09:40:21 AM
I am so freaking happy my source was telling the truth.

E3 is gonna be amazing for Castlevania fans if everything else he told me comes true.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Nagumo on May 21, 2012, 09:40:34 AM
I'm actually suprised they managed to top their previous game title in terms of genericness. I guess this mirror is the new MacGuffin? 
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Kingshango on May 21, 2012, 09:40:42 AM
I'd say it's a high chance that this will be 2D. ;D

@OSM, yep im hyped as well if everything he said was true.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: uzo on May 21, 2012, 09:40:58 AM
@Inccubus: Your hopes are going to be smashed within a month.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Nagumo on May 21, 2012, 09:42:34 AM
The information from the source that OSM was talking about (rumor):

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The game will be a Metroidvania, 2.5D. 3D graphics but side scrolling, so think Dracula X Chronicles on PSP. Lords of Shadow canon/art direction, the combat will be similar to LoS.

There will be no leveling up, and the design of the game meshes stages with Metroidvania maps, so I guess something similar to Order of Ecclesia?

First he told me he believes the protag is Alucard, but now he thinks it could be Trevor Belmont when he had no textures put on him at the time. Whoever it is, the protag uses a whip. There will be a Belmont clan, he assures me Alucard is present, and Trevor is the father of Simon Belmont.

Were supposed to get a CG trailer of Dracula, and two announcements for two new games. 3DSVania which will be a prequel to LoS2 but a sequel to LoS1, and the console sequel.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Maedhros on May 21, 2012, 09:42:43 AM
Do you guys really think the game will be 3D? With Nintendo 3DS horsepower? Unless they want a game to look worse than it would on a console, they'll go the 2D route (or 2.5D route).
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: uzo on May 21, 2012, 09:43:26 AM
I'd say it's a high chance that this will be 2D. ;D

Unlikely. LoS is separating from the Castlevania norm, and has already established it's first iteration in 3D. It makes no sense for them to revert, if it was profitable. Especially on a 3D system. Likewise, would Konami's executives really allow them to revert to a 2D one after the sales they experienced? I think not. Look at Konami's INSANE business practices lately. They simply do not give a shit either way.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 09:44:14 AM
Once again i don't know why Cox gets a bad rep...

IGA's castlevania games are like anime.....it's stupid. IGA wasn't the creator of Symphony of the night and in my honest opinion Aria was his only really good castlevania. His 3d games were horrible, copy and paste adventures and so was his 2d games. There games just came off as lazy..

Lords was well received and was a much more believable origins story than Lament ever was... It looks like a fairytale hate is silly when you could easily say it looks like japanese anime!!!
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Maedhros on May 21, 2012, 09:45:43 AM
Unlikely. LoS is separating from the Castlevania norm, and has already established it's first iteration in 3D. It makes no sense for them to revert, if it was profitable. Especially on a 3D system. Likewise, would Konami's executives really allow them to revert to a 2D one after the sales they experienced? I think not. Look at Konami's INSANE business practices lately. They simply do not give a shit either way.
A 3D system has nothing to do with the style of the game being a sidescroller or not. Neither having pixel art or not.

Seriously, I don't get where do you guys get that...
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: uzo on May 21, 2012, 09:45:56 AM
Once again i don't know why Cox gets a bad rep...

Well, to start he's a proven liar.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 09:46:43 AM
Do you guys really think the game will be 3D? With Nintendo 3DS horsepower? Unless they want a game to look worse than it would on a console, they'll go the 2D route (or 2.5D route).
It's going to be 2.5D. 3D graphics in a side scroller, like DXC.
Well, to start he's a proven liar.
I can't deny this. David promised a lot for LoS that barely any of it was true.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Inccubus on May 21, 2012, 09:47:19 AM
@Inccubus: Your hopes are going to be smashed within a month.

LOL. Yeah, nowadays when I say 'hope' in reference to anything Castlevania (or Megaman for that matter) I mean it as in the complete antithesis of anything remotely resembling actual hope. Kinda like how you say something is bad when you mean it's good.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Nagumo on May 21, 2012, 09:48:00 AM
Lords was well received and was a much more believable origins story than Lament ever was... 

uuuh
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: uzo on May 21, 2012, 09:48:56 AM
A 3D system has nothing to do with the style of the game being a sidescroller or not. Neither having pixel art or not.

Seriously, I don't get where do you guys get that...

Do realize Nintendo, along with all console manufacturers, imposes certain standards and restrictions on developers for retail 'box' games. Wii/3DSware is pretty much "anything goes" because they're begging for interest in that sector.

That and; A) Konami execs are tards; B) "Forget what you know about Castlevania"; C) LoS was highly profitable, and in 3D
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Chernabogue on May 21, 2012, 09:49:54 AM
If the rumors are true, that'd be super awesome.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 09:51:21 AM
The information from the source that OSM was talking about (rumor):
Just want to remind everyone to still take everything with a grain of salt. I'm very inclined to believe everything the guy told me now though, but you never know.

Hoping the game runs at a smooth framerate and doesn't share any of the issues MGS3D had. Konami needs a good 3DS game in their library.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Inccubus on May 21, 2012, 09:54:11 AM
Do realize Nintendo, along with all console manufacturers, imposes certain standards and restrictions on developers for retail 'box' games. Wii/3DSware is pretty much "anything goes" because they're begging for interest in that sector.

That and; A) Konami execs are tards; B) "Forget what you know about Castlevania"; C) LoS was highly profitable, and in 3D

And D) the team that is presumably developing the game has experience with 3D games, not 2D which is an entirely different animal.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Maedhros on May 21, 2012, 09:54:44 AM
Do realize Nintendo, along with all console manufacturers, imposes certain standards and restrictions on developers for retail 'box' games. Wii/3DSware is pretty much "anything goes" because they're begging for interest in that sector.

That and; A) Konami execs are tards; B) "Forget what you know about Castlevania"; C) LoS was highly profitable, and in 3D
False. They don't restricts games from being 2D or 3D. There's a lot of 2D games on 3DS already, retail even.

The other reasons you listed have nothing to do with the game being or not 3D or 2D. And, considering there's a console game coming (and in 3D), I don't see how this cannot be made in 2D. I don't care if it's not pixel art (it would be better), I just care about the gameplay being that of a sidescroller Castlevania.

This game will probably be a spin-off of the new mythos they are trying to stablish.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Chernabogue on May 21, 2012, 09:56:13 AM
As long as we don't know what will be featured in the game, there's hope.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Kingshango on May 21, 2012, 09:57:38 AM
Grain of salt and all that jazz but a Neogaf member "Santiako" say's he knew about the game for a while and say's Mirror of Faith will feature 2D gameplay like the DS games.

He doesn't go into plot details though.


Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Charlotte-nyo:3 on May 21, 2012, 09:58:01 AM
Do you guys really think the game will be 3D? With Nintendo 3DS horsepower? Unless they want a game to look worse than it would on a console, they'll go the 2D route (or 2.5D route).

Of course it's going to look worse than it would on a console; it's a handheld game. That didn't stop God of War: Chains of Olympus, MGS Peace Walker, Resident Evil Revelations, or Final Fantasy Type-0 from being made. Cast off Stage 1: Denial. Move on to Stage 2: Anger.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Ahasverus on May 21, 2012, 09:58:22 AM
if I don't get my main console Castlevania, I will cry.

Still, EXCELLENT NEWS
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 09:59:17 AM
Grain of salt and all that jazz but a Neogaf member "Santiako" say's he knew about the game for a while and say's Mirror of Faith will feature 2D gameplay like the DS games.

He doesn't go into plot details though.
And someone posted this in the thread too.
(http://www.gamereactor.es/media/10/ideameunanintendo_241055.jpg)
Not sure when this was taken.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Chernabogue on May 21, 2012, 10:00:34 AM
And someone posted this in the thread too.

Not sure when this was taken.
Can you link us to that thread please?
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Kingshango on May 21, 2012, 10:02:39 AM
Can you link us to that thread please?

That pic is like a year old (right around the time the Mercurysteam 3DS rumor started appearing) it's buried in the Lords of Shadow thread somewhere.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Maedhros on May 21, 2012, 10:04:51 AM
Of course it's going to look worse than it would on a console; it's a handheld game. That didn't stop God of War: Chains of Olympus, MGS Peace Walker, Resident Evil Revelations, or Final Fantasy Type-0 from being made. Cast off Stage 1: Denial. Move on to Stage 2: Anger.
Of course not. I've played all these games btw, and they are really good.

But a 2D/2.5D game would make more sense in a portable like the 3DS. 2.5D with 3D on can be really cool if used right.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 10:05:23 AM
Can you link us to that thread please?
http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=474923 (http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=474923)

I usually play my 3DS games with the 3D off (except Mario 3D Land), but I'm hoping the 3D works well with Castlevania.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Maedhros on May 21, 2012, 10:05:38 AM
Can you link us to that thread please?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=474923 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=474923)

EDIT: Well, fuck you OSM! =(

EDIT2: I never even used 3D once. I think 3D is a novelty, not a necessity.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Ahasverus on May 21, 2012, 10:06:45 AM
We can all agree that MS is a powehouse in graphics, I can't wait to see how they will squeze the power of this handheld and levae everyioone with the jaw on the floor.

Trevor Belmont as prtagonist? I'm sold.

Incredible, MS did what IGA couldn't and we were clamoring for years, the CVIII remake/reimagining.

Can't wait.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 10:09:35 AM
Trevor Belmont as prtagonist? I'm sold.
It's either Trevor or Alucard. I think Alucard sounds more likely, but Trevor would be awesome. It sounds like this game could be a big throwback to Dracula's Curse and Symphony of the Night.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Neobelmont on May 21, 2012, 10:10:21 AM
Cannot wait I not going to be all aww man it's by "them" or something. I am just down for a good game that is all I can ask for till I see more my body will not be ready.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Flame on May 21, 2012, 10:10:43 AM
Holy shit so much senseless butthurt over a game that WE KNOW NOTHING ABOUT YET.

Can we PLEASE hold off on the Cox/MS/whoever bashing AT LEAST until we know a bit more about the game?

Please?

Yes I know it's hard to contain the fan rage within, but seriously. Even LoS Topics have less bashing, and at least there one can list legit reasons based on a game we have already played.

Jesus...

As for my own opinions here, well the name doesnt sound too bad, sounds no less silly than some of the titles we've gotten before. We'll have to see how it relates to the plot.

I dont have a 3DS, since after Legends 3 was cancelled I saw no reason to buy one, Ill wait and see how this game turns out before I decide on buying one.

I hope we still get a console sequel though. I'd hate to see the franchise relegated to handhelds again.

(plus, y'know, I HAVE a 360... >_>)
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Chernabogue on May 21, 2012, 10:11:59 AM
Trevor and Alucard?

I want Sypha and Grant too then. :D

EDIT: Flame, I 100% agree with you on the bashing stuff. C'mon guys, let's wait a bit before saying anything like that.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 10:12:07 AM
I would prefer Alucard but I could see Trevor being a new version unique to the Lords of shadow universe.. Since he is a beltmont he is half vamprie like his father Gabriel....

so Trevor in a sense could be the alucard of new and further explain why the Belmont's are not your everyday people.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Neobelmont on May 21, 2012, 10:12:15 AM
Holy shit so much senseless butthurt over a game that WE KNOW NOTHING ABOUT YET.

Can we PLEASE hold off on the Cox/MS/whoever bashing AT LEAST until we know a bit more about the game?

Please?

Yes I know it's hard to contain the fan rage within, but seriously. Even LoS Topics have less bashing, and at least there one can list legit reasons based on a game we have already played.

Jesus...


I hope we still get a console sequel though. I'd hate to see the franchise relegated to handhelds again.

(plus, y'know, I HAVE a 360... >_>)

So much people in one spot I am all giddy and stuff a super lively thread oh yes!!!  :D Oh and +1 for that comment Flame
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Foffy on May 21, 2012, 10:13:33 AM
Just want to remind everyone to still take everything with a grain of salt. I'm very inclined to believe everything the guy told me now though, but you never know.

Hoping the game runs at a smooth framerate and doesn't share any of the issues MGS3D had. Konami needs a good 3DS game in their library.

You have yet to prove this source of yours, while someone on NeoGaf has given the existence of a 3DS Castlevania game merit as he too has confirmed he has heard things from a source that sort of merge with what we're hearing about this. The difference being if it'll be 2D or 3D.

EDIT: And if I recall right, didn't you say your source came from 4chan? o:
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Flame on May 21, 2012, 10:14:39 AM
Trevor Belmont as prtagonist? I'm sold.

Incredible, MS did what IGA couldn't and we were clamoring for years, the CVIII remake/reimagining.


Whoa, whoa, hold your horses there, we dont know that fir sure yet. Konami guy's predicitions seem to be true here, but Im still taking them with some salt. I suggest you do too.

That said, it would be neat if they actually managed to deliver that.

Quote
EDIT: And if I recall right, didn't you say your source came from 4chan?

half the game leaks and "predictions" come from 4chan.

It's just a matter of which ones turn out to be true or not.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: crisis on May 21, 2012, 10:14:56 AM
The IGA bashing needs to stop, too. That's been going on for even longer.

Personally I prefer pixel/sprite games for 3DS and 2.5D for Vita. But whatever.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Pemburu Vampir on May 21, 2012, 10:16:00 AM
Trevor would probably end up using Alucard as his name in this game. Like what Adrian did.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 10:16:14 AM
EDIT: And if I recall right, didn't you say your source came from 4chan? o:
He's an anonymous, and yes. I didn't believe him for awhile either.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: thernz on May 21, 2012, 10:16:28 AM
I hope they include the dripping blocks level.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Flame on May 21, 2012, 10:18:51 AM
The IGA bashing needs to stop, too. That's been going on for even longer.

Personally I prefer pixel/sprite games for 3DS and 2.5D for Vita. But whatever.
IGA bashing usually comes up when people start LoS bashing.

basically, when people start bitching about LoS, someone will bring up some of IGA's faults as the counter argument.

It's... kind of inevitable IMO, given the circumstances.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Chernabogue on May 21, 2012, 10:19:35 AM
Trevor would probably end up using Alucard as his name in this game. Like what Adrian did.
That'd be interesting! :)

But IIRC, Gabriel's real name isn't Gabriel Belmont. He was named by the Brotherhood. I'm pretty sure his real name was Mathias Cronqvist. So, Trevor/Alucard wouldn't be his son, but another guy called Belmont.

OMG mind blown by all the theories! XD
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Nagumo on May 21, 2012, 10:20:15 AM
The IGA bashing needs to stop, too. That's been going on for even longer.

Hear, hear. I'm all for a truce.

IGA bashing usually comes up when people start LoS bashing.

There have also been cases where it was the other way around. Both sides have done wrong in that regard.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Maedhros on May 21, 2012, 10:20:25 AM
The IGA bashing needs to stop, too. That's been going on for even longer.

Personally I prefer pixel/sprite games for 3DS and 2.5D for Vita. But whatever.
Pixel Art for Vita and 2.5D for 3DS would be a lot better. The Vita does pixel art A LOT better than the 3DS, no question.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 10:25:26 AM
Like I said it'd make sense if Trevol Belmont is Gabriel Belmonts son. He changed his name to Belmont, and it would link the Belmonts to Dracula while connecting Alucard to Dracul.....

It's a clever idea if they are truly doing this. It bridges son of dracula and the belmont clan together. Trevor Belmont would essentially be Alucard since he would possibly be the son of Gabriel ( dracul)...
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Neobelmont on May 21, 2012, 10:26:58 AM
Hear, hear. I'm all for a truce.

There have also been cases where it was the other way around. Both sides have done wrong in that regard.

Maybe the battle will never end, but I have a Dream that iga lovers and cox lovers will get along in harmony...

No but seriously nothing moves forward right when folks argue about something I wonder if this falls under that obnoxiousness we were talking about a couple days ago.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Foffy on May 21, 2012, 10:27:12 AM
He's an anonymous, and yes. I didn't believe him for awhile either.

The fact that a Castlevania game for a Nintendo portable is an inevitability, I don't think with this news you should take him with any credibility. What other things did this person claim? We'd see a Zelda on the Wii U? ;)
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Flame on May 21, 2012, 10:28:01 AM
That'd be interesting! :)

But IIRC, Gabriel's real name isn't Gabriel Belmont. He was named by the Brotherhood. I'm pretty sure his real name was Mathias Cronqvist. So, Trevor/Alucard wouldn't be his son, but another guy called Belmont.

OMG mind blown by all the theories! XD

The order named him Gabriel, he gave himself the Belmont surname due to his love of mountains and high places. he had no known surname otherwise. (the cronqvist theory is just a rumor in universe)

so he's pretty legit as a Belmont, only they merged both the Belmonts and the Cronqvists here.
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There have also been cases where it was the other way around. Both sides have done wrong in that regard.
granted, granted.

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Maybe the battle will never end, but I have a Dream that iga lovers and cox lovers will get along in harmony...

Or will they despair? (C wut I did there)

JK, I sure damn hope so. the constant divide in the fanbase is annoying.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 10:31:53 AM
We'd see a Zelda on the Wii U? ;)
Dohohoho

I'm no idiot, I'm still somewhat skeptical about this. I hope you guys don't hate me too much if everything turns out to be BS in the end. :(
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: crisis on May 21, 2012, 10:32:17 AM
In Reply To #66,

Almost as clever as Alucard hooking up with Sonia to produce Trevor. Almost.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: affinity on May 21, 2012, 10:33:15 AM
I won't understand the hate from this...

Does everyone actually appreciate the laziness of Iga's team? They recycle more than they created, half the areas in their most recent games are copy and paste box rooms over and over again. Lords of shadow wasn't perfect but it sure was far more creative and inspired as far as level design goes.

There is good creativity and bad creativity.  Also their LoS level design was so flat and so not Castlevania with more hanging and climbing than actual jumping/platforming.   And the whip was too weak.   Flashy GoW combos on a beefed up enemy is not what Castlevania combat should be like. 

Even reused Legos can create a masterpiece out of the same pieces rather than some stone carved trash that doesn't even "understand" or care to understand and respect Castlevania's nature.

Also Iga is very underrated and underappreciated for everything they've done for Castlevania since SOTN to HD.  Sure their 3-D ones were a flop but they still felt more Castlevania than anything from LoS.

I would place Cox and their misguided team in the same category as those careless idiots from Ninja Theory.  They only further prove non-Japanese developers can't do videogame franchises of Japanese origins right.


LoS should of just been called LoS.  it doesn't deserve the Castlevania title.  it just caused more fans to feel betrayed and abandoned.   

Nothing good can ever come from Cox and their team.   of course final evaluation of this 3DS project will be put on hold but their reputation is already far below Castlevania standards.


Some fans can be desperate for anything new Castlevania, but that doesn't excuse Cox and co. butchering/ignoring the essence of Castlevania gameplay and original lore/timeline.  Things were fine Iga handling it until Konami handed over the franchise to some foreigners. 

Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Inccubus on May 21, 2012, 10:34:57 AM
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...Trevor as Simon's son works...

Just wanted to point out...

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First he told me he believes the protag is Alucard, but now he thinks it could be Trevor Belmont when he had no textures put on him at the time. Whoever it is, the protag uses a whip. There will be a Belmont clan, he assures me Alucard is present, and Trevor is the father of Simon Belmont.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Neobelmont on May 21, 2012, 10:35:33 AM
Like I said it'd make sense if Trevol Belmont is Gabriel Belmonts son. He changed his name to Belmont, and it would link the Belmonts to Dracula while connecting Alucard to Dracul.....

It's a clever idea if they are truly doing this. It bridges son of dracula and the belmont clan together. Trevor Belmont would essentially be Alucard since he would possibly be the son of Gabriel ( dracul)...

For some reason I want Leon to be Gabes son. Also I may not like Alucard that much I just do not think it would be a good idea if trevor was alucard it does not sit right in my stomach.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Foffy on May 21, 2012, 10:36:36 AM
Dohohoho

I'm no idiot, I'm still somewhat skeptical about this. I hope you guys don't hate me too much if everything turns out to be BS in the end. :(

I for one don't hate you or anything, all I'm trying to pick out is where is the trustworthy wallmeat to trust the claims this person your believing come from, and if there's any serious levels of trust to be had. Making easy blanket assumptions that seem to be predictable choices to make do not seem like trustworthy sources, which is why I asked what else this person claimed. If all of it are assumptions based on popular guesses and hopes that people on Neogaf, /v/, and GameFAQs make, then there's not any genuine credibility to be had there.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Inccubus on May 21, 2012, 10:38:56 AM
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First he told me he believes the protag is Alucard, but now he thinks it could be Trevor Belmont when he had no textures put on him at the time. Whoever it is, the protag uses a whip. There will be a Belmont clan, he assures me Alucard is present, and Trevor is the father of Simon Belmont.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Kingshango on May 21, 2012, 10:42:52 AM
I for one don't hate you or anything, all I'm trying to pick out is where is the trustworthy wallmeat to trust the claims this person your believing come from, and if there's any serious levels of trust to be had. Making easy blanket assumptions that seem to be predictable choices to make do not seem like trustworthy sources, which is why I asked what else this person claimed. If all of it are assumptions based on popular guesses and hopes that people on Neogaf, /v/, and GameFAQs make, then there's not any genuine credibility to be had there.

Not that I trust the leaker completely either but he did point out that Cox's new Twitter pic is a cropped image of a poster that shows a pale red eyed Gabriel with a yellow eyed wolf behind him.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Charlotte-nyo:3 on May 21, 2012, 10:43:58 AM
Maybe the battle will never end, but I have a Dream that iga lovers and cox lovers will get along in harmony...

No but seriously nothing moves forward right when folks argue about something I wonder if this falls under that obnoxiousness we were talking about a couple days ago.

I don't see how Iga lovers and the Cox Lovers could get along unless both are getting consistent releases of the types of CVs they enjoy. If Cox got kicked off CV after LoS, there'd be no reason for people who liked LoS to refrain from complaining 24/7. If Iga is now done with CV, Iga lovers have no reason to refrain from complaining 24/7. Such complaints will almost inevitably bring up counters from other factions in the fanbase based on their own personal preferences and feed a typical cycle of Internet conflict on many subjects.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Neobelmont on May 21, 2012, 10:46:24 AM

Inccubus he can assure alot of things,but till then I am still not ready it could be like the time  those OOE images went around the internet at one point, but this is not the case this time so I am a bit skeptical. All what we can do is play the waiting game a bit longer now.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 10:48:13 AM
There's things I like about the rumors and things i hate:

Like:
1. the mention of metroidvania
2. 2.5d
3. Alucard, Trevor being present..possibly


Dislike:
1.Stages... It'd be nice to have a full explorable map for a 2d game. Not saying they are lazy but show us your creativity and let us truly explore everything! I hate the DOTTED LINE okay we are magically at the next location

2. No leveling up..I can see why some people dislike it but I love leveling up and seeing my stats increase constantly...

3. Whip... Okay I don't hate classic castlevania games but I sincerely hope there are more weapons than just a whip. One of the better things about the newer 2d castlevania games were finding new/unique weapons to mess around with.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Maedhros on May 21, 2012, 10:48:41 AM
Ahasverus on GAF:

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I'm prettu sure people don't miss androgenous pretty boys and anime plots

And for your information, people, Dave Cox haven't only worked on LoS, he was in the CV team since Castlevania X68000 (or whatever) that is, BEFORE IGA, he was part of the SOTN team and the COTM team. He then was part of the localization team of all subsequent Cv titles until becoming main producer in Lords of Shadows.

Never change...
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Kingshango on May 21, 2012, 10:51:14 AM
Well the original source is down, im getting flashbacks of the Harmony of Despair leak.

I think it's the real deal.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Archangel on May 21, 2012, 10:52:54 AM
Oooooookay, too much information :o

So let´s think about this:

- Castlevania for 3DS? Great, that was exactly the reason I buyed one!

- Cox is involved? Argh, I kinda hoped it would be made by IGA... and Cox and his team would work on the new console game.

- Trevor or Alucard as the Main Protagonist? Okay, awesome?


Sooo.... I´m kinda dissapointed AND excited at the same time. ;D Okay, I guess you guys are right. We don´t know anything concrete right now...  so I´ll wait and see what comes out of this ^^
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Foffy on May 21, 2012, 10:53:49 AM
Well the original source is down, im getting flashbacks of the Harmony of Despair leak.

I think it's the real deal.

It probably is, considering that.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Nagumo on May 21, 2012, 10:53:58 AM
From the same site:
http://www.n1ntendo.nl/article/38054/1/All/wereldprimeur-artikel-offline-wegens-verzoek-konami (http://www.n1ntendo.nl/article/38054/1/All/wereldprimeur-artikel-offline-wegens-verzoek-konami)

It says:

Today we had a major scoop from the Konami front but we have just been approached by Konami who requested us to remove the information from our site. Apperently the news was not allowed to be made public yet and was supposed to be a E3 suprise. We apperently also misspelled the title of the game.

We respect this decesion and we therefore removed the article. We were not initially told that we could make this information public, which is the reason why we changed it regardless. It confirms in any case that our article is completely true. yadayadayada       
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 10:54:09 AM
Well the original source is down, im getting flashbacks of the Harmony of Despair leak.

I think it's the real deal.
I never understand why companies think it's smart to shut down sources like that. It just makes it even more convincing whatever "leaked" was true. They would have been smarter to have just let it alone or "No comment at this time."

EDIT: Oh wow. It's really happening.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 10:54:30 AM
Twit question
what would you say if i said mirror of faith?

Dave Cox ‏@CastlevaniaLOS

@Wizpig - I would say wrong end of the stick....misinformed. I would also say the truth is ALWAYS better than fiction! :-)
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 10:57:15 AM
Perhaps it's really called "Mirror of Fate"?

EDIT: You can change the thread title to "Confirmed" now, thanks to Konami.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Nagumo on May 21, 2012, 11:00:37 AM
Well, if Cox says it false it's probably not just the title of the game being spelled wrong. So I'd say we should not yet consider this confirmed.

Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: Flame on May 21, 2012, 11:01:17 AM
lol Konami
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 11:02:34 AM
Well, if Cox says it false it's probably not just the title of the game being spelled wrong. So I'd say we should not yet consider this confirmed.

Well he's not gonna say it's true since it's not supposed to be revealed yet. It might just mean that not all the info is exactly accurate, maybe it changed platforms to vita, maybe it's not trevor and it's alucard as the main chracter...etc...

Bits of info out there might be wrong.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 11:02:42 AM
Well, if Cox says it false it's probably not just the title of the game being spelled wrong. So I'd say we should not yet consider this confirmed.
Not at all in defense of that anonymous's rumors, but Cox isn't exactly known for telling the truth.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 11:03:46 AM
Not at all in defense of that anonymous's rumors, but Cox isn't exactly known for telling the truth.

and again why would he say it's true? It's not supposed to be revealed yet!
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Sindra on May 21, 2012, 11:06:19 AM
So, Cox is working on Lords of Shadow 2 and a handheld title? At the same time?

Christ, Konami really does think he's going to be their ace in the hole now concerning the franchise, huh?


Not at all in defense of that anonymous's rumors, but Cox isn't exactly known for telling the truth.

He believes he was telling the truth. The rest of us knew he was full of bullshit.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: Nagumo on May 21, 2012, 11:06:54 AM
Eh, Cox only lied in order to make his game sound better than it really was. He has no reason to lie now. Besides, I think it would have been smarter if he would have said "no comment" or just ignored it.   
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Foffy on May 21, 2012, 11:07:25 AM
Well, if Cox says it false it's probably not just the title of the game being spelled wrong. So I'd say we should not yet consider this confirmed.

Perhaps he's saying what Konami was saying: the name of the title is wrong. The rest is true, otherwise Konami would not have taken it down.

They took down Harmony of Despair leaks, if you remember.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: Nagumo on May 21, 2012, 11:09:19 AM
Yeah, but I'd still say one would not use the terms "wrong end of the stick" and "misinformed" just because of a misspelling. But we'll see.   
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: uzo on May 21, 2012, 11:09:33 AM
False. They don't restricts games from being 2D or 3D. There's a lot of 2D games on 3DS already, retail even.

Then you should have no problem listing them. Keep in mind 3DSware title don't count, they are under different regulations from Nintendo entirely. First party titles from Nintendo also are immune to restrictions. Please do list the remaining. There are at times very specific allowances for 'games' that don't quite qualify in the traditional sense, but perhaps make use of the current console gimmick in a way traditional games cannot or do not typically.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 11:09:44 AM
Eh, Cox only lied in order to make his game sound better than it really was. He has no reason to lie now. Besides, I think it would have been smarter if he would have said "no comment" or just ignored it.

better than it was? It was a length adventure, it was pretty robust, had great graphics, nice voice acting, and was critically accepted compared to the other 3d castlevanias that came out.

I don't think he lied too much, I think it's just iGA fans being butthurt that we aren't getting over the top anime plots anymore lol
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: Nagumo on May 21, 2012, 11:10:52 AM
Sorry CastleDan, poor use of words. I think "more ideal than it really was" is better. 
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: Foffy on May 21, 2012, 11:11:41 AM
better than it was? It was a length adventure, it was pretty robust, had great graphics, nice voice acting, and was critically accepted compared to the other 3d castlevanias that came out.

I don't think he lied too much, I think it's just iGA fans being butthurt that we aren't getting over the top anime plots anymore lol

I'd prefer those plots over the childish plot twist the game imposes at the end of the game. That was absolutely atrocious.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 11:13:31 AM
I don't think he lied too much, I think it's just iGA fans being butthurt that we aren't getting over the top anime plots anymore lol
I didn't see much of Super Castlevania IV in Lords of Shadow besides the whip swinging and gloomy/dreary environments. He boasted that IV was his bible for LoS's development.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 11:15:32 AM
Sorry CastleDan, poor use of words. I think "more ideal than it really was" is better.

Again, it gets a bad rep for silly reasons imo.. It's the first Castlevania in 3d that actually has damn good level design. No copy and paste cop outs, and it went back to the more gritty mythical beefy nature of the originals and less of the romantic pretty boy vibe of the newer ones.  IMO of course...

Foffy-Eh, it was far more interestin' than a crimson stone plotline.......imo.....
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Maedhros on May 21, 2012, 11:16:32 AM
Then you should have no problem listing them. Keep in mind 3DSware title don't count, they are under different regulations from Nintendo entirely. First party titles from Nintendo also are immune to restrictions. Please do list the remaining. There are at times very specific allowances for 'games' that don't quite qualify in the traditional sense, but perhaps make use of the current console gimmick in a way traditional games cannot or do not typically.
From the top of my head, I remember Crayon Shin-chan (Japan Only), Cave Story 3D(has a 2D pixel mode in, but whatever). Adventure Time 3DS will be pixel art by Wayforward too. I'm sure there's more, I can't remember everyone.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: Sindra on May 21, 2012, 11:16:58 AM
I don't think he lied too much, I think it's just iGA fans being butthurt that we aren't getting over the top anime plots anymore lol

Or, could it be general fans of the series since far, far before IGA that just can't stand someone not doing justice to the series as a whole, and not any particular era of the games. IGA did it too in areas.

And I'd like someone to describe to me, exactly, what an "Over-the-Top Anime Plotline" is. That seems to be a pretty damn big generalization.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 11:17:14 AM
I didn't see much of Super Castlevania IV in Lords of Shadow besides the whip swinging and gloomy/dreary environments. He boasted that IV was his bible for LoS's development.


a lot of the locations in that game were in this game just in 3d and re-imagined. It's far closer to IV than anything IGA has been producing. My problem is less with people having a problem with LOS and more with people giving IGA a pass for his less than stellar, lazy...lazy...games with horrible level design and recycling ..of everything.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: uzo on May 21, 2012, 11:17:34 AM
Cox, and others at MS in charge of PR and marketing, deliberately deceived the old fan base with misinformation ranging from inferring tings that were not technically true, tricking the old fans with imagery and sound to lead them intentionally to false conclusion, and at the worst outright lies.

Why? Because they realized if the fan base knew the truth of the project's true form they would have lost the support of the fans before tricking anyo9ne into buying it.

It has nothing to do with IGA. Most things don't anyway, but all the uninformed, misguided, popular-wanna-be kids seem to latch on to that to sound cool.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 11:19:11 AM
Or, could it be general fans of the series since far, far before IGA that just can't stand someone not doing justice to the series as a whole, and not any particular era of the games. IGA did it too in areas.

And I'd like someone to describe to me, exactly, what an "Over-the-Top Anime Plotline" is. That seems to be a pretty damn big generalization.

Castlevania Dawn of Sorrow - Intro - Gameplay (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7lqtPjE0k4#) - the dialog reads like some kind of poorly written anime.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: Kingshango on May 21, 2012, 11:20:39 AM
At the very least, we know the truth about everything regarding Lords of Shadow now so Cox and Mercurysteam can't possibly lie anymore right?

Right?
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 11:21:05 AM
Castlevania Dawn of Sorrow - Intro - Gameplay (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7lqtPjE0k4#) - the dialog reads like some kind of poorly written anime.
That art style is ridiculously generic. Why didn't they use Kojima's art?
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: Maedhros on May 21, 2012, 11:22:32 AM
better than it was? It was a length adventure, it was pretty robust, had great graphics, nice voice acting, and was critically accepted compared to the other 3d castlevanias that came out.

I don't think he lied too much, I think it's just iGA fans being butthurt that we aren't getting over the top anime plots anymore lol
Seriously, STFU.
"This game will be heavily inspired by Castlevania IV".
"No QTEs guys, I hate them".

Just two examples.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: Sindra on May 21, 2012, 11:23:13 AM
the dialog reads like some kind of poorly written anime.

Yes, and Zobek's grandiose dialog and descriptions of Gabriel's "pain and torment and overwhelming rage" (that rarely got shown, FYI) weren't over-the-top at all.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: Foffy on May 21, 2012, 11:24:56 AM
Again, it gets a bad rep for silly reasons imo.. It's the first Castlevania in 3d that actually has damn good level design. No copy and paste cop outs, and it went back to the more gritty mythical beefy nature of the originals and less of the romantic pretty boy vibe of the newer ones.  IMO of course...

Foffy-Eh, it was far more interestin' than a crimson stone plotline.......imo.....

I donno, dude. I thought someone got one of their children to get the twist that Belmont = Dracula. It's so childish of a plot idea, and seems like something fitting for fan fiction. But perhaps it's because two of the writers do comic books, and maybe awful plots is a norm there.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 11:26:01 AM
The art style and the dialog in the game was atrocious and anime like...

My point is people are fine with IGA's bastardization of the series ( minus Aria which i did like and was well done) but people go ape shiznit over lords of shadow which at the very least keeps the tone very similar to the old games. Has locations that are outside the castle like the old games, has a main protagonist with a whip like the old games, has a damsel in distress type story like the old games.

Yet people go crazy saying how they were misled! it's really NOT as different as everyone flips out at it.... Lets look at IGA's storylines with cars in the backgrounds, anime art style, horrible dialog, copy and paste backgrounds....stuff that people are seemingly much more okay with...Why?...

Get the guy that created symphony of the night back in control of things he had the perfect vision, IGA taking over symphony of the night hardly counts in my eyes.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 11:26:50 AM
I donno, dude. I thought someone got one of their children to get the twist that Belmont = Dracula. It's so childish of a plot idea, and seems like something fitting for fan fiction. But perhaps it's because two of the writers do comic books, and maybe awful plots is a norm there.

Again it's far more interestin' at the very least than a crimson..stone....which sounds much more comic booky to me.

and yeah, it does sound fan fiction'ish ...but it's a take that I could have seen happening. It's something that makes the belmont clan a bit more interesting. Plus it's always great to see a persons fall from grace in a game and they did it very well....
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 11:26:57 AM
I donno, dude. I thought someone got one of their children to get the twist that Belmont = Dracula. It's so childish of a plot idea, and seems like something fitting for fan fiction. But perhaps it's because two of the writers do comic books, and maybe awful plots is a norm there.
Well, Gabriel wasn't really a "Belmont," he gave himself that name. We don't know what his real name is, but we know he's supposedly a bastard child from the Cronqvist family.

I feel like any "Belmonts" won't be Belmonts by birth right, but it will be used as a surname for anyone who reaches a certain standard in the Order.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: uzo on May 21, 2012, 11:27:25 AM
From the top of my head, I remember Crayon Shin-chan (Japan Only), Cave Story 3D(has a 2D pixel mode in, but whatever). Adventure Time 3DS will be pixel art by Wayforward too. I'm sure there's more, I can't remember everyone.

I see 3D model effects in Crayon Shin-chan screen shots, despite being a severely cheap licensed title. Adventure Time was announced just recently with NO screen shots to be found, and is a DS multiplatform title as well. I hardly think that counts. Cave Story is a 3d remake with a retro mode tacked on. You are really grasping for straws here.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: crisis on May 21, 2012, 11:28:18 AM
CastleDan, you're coming off as an obnoxious little kid "nyah nyah cox games are better than your dumb iga games nyah nyah"

Seriously. It's fucking annoying.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: DragonSlayr81 on May 21, 2012, 11:28:34 AM
Yes, and Zobek's grandiose dialog and descriptions of Gabriel's "pain and torment and overwhelming rage" (that rarely got shown, FYI) weren't over-the-top at all.
It really is two different sides of the same coin. One side's East, the other, West. The coin is called EXAGGERATION!
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 11:30:25 AM
CastleDan, you're coming off as an obnoxious little kid "nyah nyah cox games are better than your dumb iga games nyah nyah"

Seriously. It's fucking annoying.

No see that's where you are wrong. I'm pointing out how annoying it is seeing people bitch about one David Cox game that actually was praised in the press and was a pretty well made game.

I like Aria of Sorrow, and I love IGA's commitment to the metroidvania style. I'm just saying people give him a pass so easily and he made far more changes to the series and did some pretty out there stuff.

Cox told everyone it was a re-imagining from the beginning how much did he really lie if we knew that from the start?
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: Ahasverus on May 21, 2012, 11:30:33 AM
Two more news.
First, Konami told the site with the original story to ERASE it. So it's accurrate. Good.

Second
Dave Cox wrote something
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 David ‏@Wizpig @CastlevaniaLOS What can you say if I say "Mirror of Faith"?

@Wizpig - I would say wrong end of the stick....misinformed. I would also say the truth is ALWAYS better than fiction! :-)

In another note, I'm not only excited for the possibility of this, but because, hey, we'll get TWO castlevania games with plot relevance announced at the time, and God knows I was hungry for more CV (In one way or another).

Also, we don't know if Mercury is DEVELOPING THE GAME, we know Cox is producing it and Alvarez is writing it/directing it, but it could be outsourced to another developer, think.. Wayforward?
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 11:31:43 AM
Two more news.
First, Konami told the site with the original story to ERASE it. So it's accurrate. Good.

Second
Dave Cox wrote something
In another note, I'm not only excited for the possibility of this, but because, hey, we'll get TWO castlevania games with plot relevance announced at the time, and God knows I was hunry for more CV (In one way or another).

Also, we don't know if Mercury is DEVELOPING THE GAME, we know Cox is producing it and Alarez is writing it/directing it, but it could be outsourced to another developer, think.. Wayforward?

Wayforward would be interestin'...
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: DragonSlayr81 on May 21, 2012, 11:32:07 AM
Yet people go crazy saying how they were misled! it's really NOT as different as everyone flips out at it.... Lets look at IGA's storylines with cars in the backgrounds...

LOL, cars in the background aren't what I call a major problem with IGA's storylines. Considering the cars were present in the "future" CV games, they are actually pretty easy to swallow, maybe even "realistic" in a way. Of course there's going to be cars, it's 2035-2036.  ;D
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Maedhros on May 21, 2012, 11:32:21 AM
I see 3D model effects in Crayon Shin-chan screen shots, despite being a severely cheap licensed title. Adventure Time was announced just recently with NO screen shots to be found, and is a DS multiplatform title as well. I hardly think that counts. Cave Story is a 3d remake with a retro mode tacked on. You are really grasping for straws here.
So the 3D elements in the DS Castlevanias means the games were 3D? Sorry, I didn't know.

The point is: Nintendo doesn't limit developers to do shit. The artstyle of the game is a decision of the developer in the end. Sony is fine with 2D/pixel art games too.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: uzo on May 21, 2012, 11:32:55 AM
Yes, and Zobek's grandiose dialog and descriptions of Gabriel's "pain and torment and overwhelming rage" (that rarely got shown, FYI) weren't over-the-top at all.

Not to mention I've seen better writing than that in a whole bunch of animes.

EDIT: JESUS CHRIST I TRIED TO POST THIS LIKE 4 TIMES NOW
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: Sindra on May 21, 2012, 11:33:40 AM
My point is people are fine with IGA's bastardization of the series....

Dude, stop using that as your justification for everything. I've seen it in almost every one of your last few posts. Not everyone here is a huge fan of IGA. You're using that as your crutch to explain why you're defending Cox and LoS.

Instead, you should be focusing on things like atmosphere (that was more Lord of the Rings than Super Castlevania 4, like Cox swore up and down it'd be), music (that was, again, more suited for a theatrical score and NOT for engaging video game music like a good majority of past Castlevania games) and characterization (telling us Gabriel's some tormented, rage-a-holic fellow and neglecting to show it, and slapping CV names on generic baddy bosses as an excuse to call it "Castlevania")

Give me good explanations for all of those, and not the excuse of "Well IGA's stuff is crap too, you guys just love him too much! lol!", and maybe then you'll garner some weight with your rebuttals.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 11:34:18 AM
LOL, cars in the background aren't what I call a major problem with IGA's storylines. Considering the cars were present in the "future" CV games, they are actually pretty easy to swallow, maybe even "realistic" in a way. Of course there's going to be cars, it's 2035-2036.  ;D

My point was more of a bash of doing a future Castlevania game at all..Lol
Aria of Sorrow did it tastefully but Dawn of Sorrow started to sound modern by it's horrible dialog and various other elements.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: uzo on May 21, 2012, 11:36:33 AM
The point is: Nintendo doesn't limit developers to do shit. The artstyle of the game is a decision of the developer in the end. Sony is fine with 2D/pixel art games too.

I wouldn't expect the general population of gamers to know about it, but it is undeniable fact. But what would I know, its not like I ever worked for Activision, on a Nintendo title or anything- OH WAIT, I did. In fact we had an entire DEPARTMENT dedicated to making sure we comply with the myriad of Nintendo regulations imposed on developers.

PS: Megaman X4 was rejected being told it was "Not 3D enough" on the PS1, until they revised the graphics to have a depth to them. So no, your argument doesn't hold any water here, past, present, or future.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: crisis on May 21, 2012, 11:39:05 AM
Quote from: CastleDan
I'm pointing out

That's the thing, no one asked or needs you to point out how Cox's efforts are sooo much better than IGA's. We know the deal, It's been done to death, and you keep shoehorning it in every post.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed(?) Castlevania: Mirror of Faith
Post by: Maedhros on May 21, 2012, 11:39:10 AM
I wouldn't expect the general population of gamers to know about it, but it is undeniable fact. But what would I know, its not like I ever worked for Activision, on a Nintendo title or anything- OH WAIT, I did. In fact we had an entire DEPARTMENT dedicated to making sure we comply with the myriad of Nintendo regulations imposed on developers.

PS: Megaman X4 was rejected being told it was "Not 3D enough" on the PS1, until they revised the graphics to have a depth to them. So no, your argument doesn't hold any water here, past, present, or future.
I don't buy your explanation at all.

BTW, where did it changed from "2D game" to "pixel art"? Like I've said, I just don't care about pixel art. The game being 2D isn't something that Nintendo regulates.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 11:44:25 AM
Dude, stop using that as your justification for everything. I've seen it in almost every one of your last few posts. Not everyone here is a huge fan of IGA. You're using that as your crutch to explain why you're defending Cox and LoS.

Instead, you should be focusing on things like atmosphere (that was more Lord of the Rings than Super Castlevania 4, like Cox swore up and down it'd be), music (that was, again, more suited for a theatrical score and NOT for engaging video game music like a good majority of past Castlevania games) and characterization (telling us Gabriel's some tormented, rage-a-holic fellow and neglecting to show it, and slapping CV names on generic baddy bosses as an excuse to call it "Castlevania")

Give me good explanations for all of those, and not the excuse of "Well IGA's stuff is crap too, you guys just love him too much! lol!", and maybe then you'll garner some weight with your rebuttals.
Crisis- it's a forum learn to deal with people posting their opinions on a board. I never said you can't dislike lords of shadow i'm just stating why I never got the hate for it. ( that is allowed)....It's just dumb that people are flipping out over a game that we haven't even seen yet either..lol


1) Didn't like lords of shadow's music but some people did so won't argue there.
2) Some enemy designs did have a generic look but some were accurate too. The wargs for example. They were going for a grittier more realistic look like Super Castlevania 4 instead of the more goofy designs that recent entries have been going towards.
3) The atmosphere of the settings are infinitely better to me than previous entries, especially the sidescrolling moments.
Also it follows super castlevania 4 in that a lot of the locations were outdoors and in the castle.
4) The whips use for exploration was big in super castlevania 4 and in this game too.

David Cox from the get go said it was a re-imagination so I just didn't get the point some people were making. It's a step in the right direction in terms of 3d castlevania games but it has room for improvements for sure like any other game.

Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: Sindra on May 21, 2012, 11:48:12 AM
See, was that so hard?

And I'm not Crisis, unless you were just quoting me and giving a shout-out to him. Which makes no sense. o_O

Edit: Then you cut out your actually halfway-decent explanation. Why shoot yourself in the foot?
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: Neobelmont on May 21, 2012, 11:48:27 AM
Crisis- it's a forum learn to deal with people posting their opinions on a board. I never said you can't dislike lords of shadow i'm just stating why I never got the hate for it. ( that is allowed)....It's just dumb that people are flipping out over a game that we haven't even seen yet either..lol

What happened to the hecka long post you made I pressed I was reading that   ???


Edit something just hit my head right now. Well you know how lords sold over 1million right? And Harmony of despair sold well on both systems right not sure if it was half a million or something, but I just a feeling that a good selling 2d and 3d cv could garner some great sales. Sales that series deserves. 
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 11:50:13 AM
Is this thread going to be a constant bitchfest for the next two weeks? :(
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 11:50:46 AM
See, was that so hard?

And I'm not Crisis, unless you were just quoting me and giving a shout-out to him. Which makes no sense. o_O

Edit: Then you cut out your actually halfway-decent explanation. Why shoot yourself in the foot?

I simplified it. Lol
I did shout out to him because i noticed his post and wanted to add it to what I was saying ..Lol
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: Nagumo on May 21, 2012, 11:51:07 AM
Is this thread going to be a constant bitchfest for the next two weeks? :(

Yes, and you'll learn to love it.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 11:51:55 AM
My main point was...

People flipping out that mercurysteam is involved yet we haven't even seen the game yet is childish. wait and see before you judge so blindly.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on May 21, 2012, 11:52:33 AM
Wow I turn around and Whoa 9 pages?
As long as you guys keep it civil, it should be no problem.

BTW, wasn't "The DraculaX Chronicles" a 3D sidescroller?  I gather that it will be like that, only with some more exploration.
I don't see the problem.  Then again, that's only my assumption of what it might be like.  We will see when E3 rolls about, I suppose.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 11:53:41 AM
Wow I turn around and Whoa 9 pages?
As long as you guys keep it civil, it should be no problem.

BTW, wasn't "The DraculaX Chronicles" a 3D sidescroller?  I gather that it will be like that, only with some more exploration.
I don't see the problem.  Then again, that's only my assumption of what it might be like.  We will see when E3 rolls about, I suppose.
Yeah it will probably be like that maybe with improved combat and movement.

It's worth noting people that wayforward has been working with key konami franchises, maybe they will be developing this?
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: Sindra on May 21, 2012, 11:54:03 AM
Is this thread going to be a constant bitchfest for the next two weeks? :(

How long have you posted here? Don't you know the trend by now? New game comes out = pissing and moaning.

Jorge, I thought DXC constituted 2.5D gameplay with 3D cutscenes.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: Neobelmont on May 21, 2012, 11:54:55 AM
Is this thread going to be a constant bitchfest for the next two weeks? :(

Perhaps, but for some reason this seems to be kind of fun at some points. Till it get's tiresome(again).
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 11:55:40 AM
How long have you posted here? Don't you know the trend by now? New game comes out = pissing and moaning.

Jorge, I thought DXC constituted 2.5D gameplay with 3D cutscenes.
I think he just means the characters and environments are 3d polygons.
It's a 3d game but in a sidescrolling world...

2.5d is the correct term for it though.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: Kingshango on May 21, 2012, 11:56:30 AM
Is this thread going to be a constant bitchfest for the next two weeks? :(

That's the plan, nothing you can do but sit back and watch until we get screens or footage.

Then we'll debate and argue like it's 2009 all over again baby, woooooooo!
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on May 21, 2012, 11:56:40 AM
Well there have been no specifics other than "3D" (which implies that it's a textures and polygons games) game with Metroidvania elements (meaning mapping).
Soooooo I'm thinking it'll look like Super Smash Bros. Melee/Brawl's Adventure Mode, or The DraculaX Chronicles.
Or like Kirby & the Crystal Shards.
Or like Lost in Shadow.

I'm totally fine with this.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: Sindra on May 21, 2012, 11:58:03 AM
If Wayforward did the game like they did Bloodrayne: Betrayal, then I'd be completely onboard. (especially if Jake Kaufman was doing the music)
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 11:58:27 AM
How long have you posted here? Don't you know the trend by now? New game comes out = pissing and moaning.
Not very long, I came here around the time when LoS was revealed to be a Castlevania game.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: Sumac on May 21, 2012, 11:58:59 AM
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Wow, this sucks.
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2D Castlevania, we knew thee well. May you rest in peace.
Ha-ha-ha...
So much delicious rage and butthurt (from both sides). Let's add some fuel, shall we?

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I donno, dude. I thought someone got one of their children to get the twist that Belmont = Dracula. It's so childish of a plot idea, and seems like something fitting for fan fiction. But perhaps it's because two of the writers do comic books, and maybe awful plots is a norm there.
Not more childish, than Dracula being reincarnated as some japanese dude...and his castle being sealed into solar eclipse by shinto priests...

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CastleDan, you're coming off as an obnoxious little kid "nyah nyah cox games are better than your dumb iga games nyah nyah"
You're coming as obnoxious LOS-hater, who lashes on anyone who dare to vehemently protect something that you don't agree with. As an always.

OK, now on the topic itself: while I am not 3DS owner, I will eagerly wait what this game will have in store. And, if rumors are true, we finally will have a semblance of the coherent storytelling in the series, art that IGA couldn't decently master through all his years of being series producer.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: Flame on May 21, 2012, 12:00:34 PM
I still dont understand how people DONT see the Castlevania in LoS. They are just blinded by their hatred of it.

on Cox lying: well, to be fair, he said there would be no QTE's, and there were.

also, the trailers used clever editing to make it seem like we would fight Dracula at the end. And instead, it turned out to be Satan, and we instead had the Belmont BECOME Dracula.


I'm sure that's what bothers more people, and what causes most of the fan rage. That the Belmonts were linked to the Draculas.

(even though Legends did it first)

personally, I can totally see the SC IV in LoS. The atmosphere in certain sections is definitely SC IV ish.

people also complain about the daytime areas, even though Daytime stages are nothing new to castlevania.

I just dont get it. people are entitled to their opinions, however bad taste they may be to me, but there is absolutely no reason to start a war in this topic. AT ALL. We know next to nothing about the game, and already we are complaining about who's making it. Which by the way, we dont know either. Cox is Konami, not MS. Granted it wouldnt surprise me if it was MS, and they seem most likely here, we still dont quite know that. Especially for the 3DS game here. Wayforward is definitely a valid guess.

also, another 2D 3DS game: Mighty Switchforce.

Quote
Is this thread going to be a constant bitchfest for the next two weeks?

yep.

(http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/9259/78907810.png)
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 12:02:21 PM
Ha-ha-ha...
So much delicious rage and butthurt (from both sides). Let's add some fuel, shall we?
Not more childish, than Dracula being reincarnated as some japanese dude...and his castle being sealed into solar eclipse by shinto priests...
You're coming as obnoxious LOS-hater, who lashes on anyone who dare to vehemently protect something that you don't agree with. As an always.

OK, now on the topic itself: while I am not 3DS owner, I will eagerly wait what this game will have in store. And, if rumors are true, we finally will have a semblance of the coherent storytelling in the series, art that IGA couldn't decently master through all his years of being series producer.

Thanks for the support, there's definitely a bias with some posters. They are fine with some IGA stupidity but not with some David Cox stupidity.
I already said i really liked Aria of sorrow for the most part but I agree with all the points you made.

All I was asking is for people to be fair about this, in the past few years castlevania in general has been getting more and more ridiculous. At least with this re-imagining we can get back to some basics .
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on May 21, 2012, 12:03:50 PM
There are actually quite many 3DS 2D titles, and many are really good.

Indeed, Mighty Switch Force is one of 'em.
That Mutant Mudds game.
VVVVVV

People should really look at the videos in the 3DSware shop.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: Flame on May 21, 2012, 12:04:18 PM
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Not more childish, than Dracula being reincarnated as some japanese dude...and his castle being sealed into solar eclipse by shinto priests...
But that is deep and complex storytelling. Which these baka gaijin westerners cannot possibly hope to comprehend and live up to!
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: Nagumo on May 21, 2012, 12:04:33 PM
No truce then? I guess it only takes one person and the cycle begins all over again.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 12:05:11 PM
There are actually quite many 3DS 2D titles, and many are really good.

Indeed, Mighty Switch Force is one of 'em.
That Mutant Mudds game.
VVVVVV

People should really look at the videos in the 3DSware shop.

lets not forget Rayman Origins is supposed to be coming out for 3ds! great game
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: kingu on May 21, 2012, 12:05:27 PM
castledan, you made yourself look horrible with the juvenile flamebaiting and touting of the most tenuous, delusive aspects. "outdoor locations" and "whip swinging" are vague and meaningless.

wayforward please do something
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on May 21, 2012, 12:05:33 PM
I expect many pages of arguing prior to E3.
Just like with the "I knew it! Lords of Shadow" thread.  **sighs**
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 12:06:52 PM
I expect many pages of arguing prior to E3.
Just like with the "I knew it! Lords of Shadow" thread.  **sighs**
That thread was cursed to have that thread title forever too.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: Flame on May 21, 2012, 12:07:03 PM
No truce then? I guess it only takes one person and the cycle begins all over again.
I'm all for one, but it doesn't seem like everyone else is on board. So I just dont see the point in trying. I cant see fan rage just being truced.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: X on May 21, 2012, 12:08:04 PM
Castlevania: Mirror of Faith... I'll say it like I did for LoS2. Screenshots, reviews, music samples and a videoclip or two just to see how it all mends together. If I don't like it after all that then I simply won't buy it. I'm not going to hold my breath and I will take this news with a grain of salt. I was seriously let down with LoS and I don't want to be disappointed AFTER I buy the games.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 12:08:49 PM
castledan, you made yourself look horrible with the juvenile flamebaiting and touting of the most tenuous, delusive aspects. "outdoor locations" and "whip swinging" are vague and meaningless.

wayforward please do something

I'll choose to ignore those comments as I spent my time defending what I was saying, and was merely implying people should keep an open mind before judging a game without seeing anything because everyone knows judging before seeing is the true juvenile thing to do....
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: Maedhros on May 21, 2012, 12:09:03 PM
I still dont understand how people DONT see the Castlevania in LoS. They are just blinded by their hatred of it.

on Cox lying: well, to be fair, he said there would be no QTE's, and there were.

also, the trailers used clever editing to make it seem like we would fight Dracula at the end. And instead, it turned out to be Satan, and we instead had the Belmont BECOME Dracula.


I'm sure that's what bothers more people, and what causes most of the fan rage. That the Belmonts were linked to the Draculas.

(even though Legends did it first)

personally, I can totally see the SC IV in LoS. The atmosphere in certain sections is definitely SC IV ish.

people also complain about the daytime areas, even though Daytime stages are nothing new to castlevania.

I just dont get it. people are entitled to their opinions, however bad taste they may be to me, but there is absolutely no reason to start a war in this topic. AT ALL. We know next to nothing about the game, and already we are complaining about who's making it. Which by the way, we dont know either. Cox is Konami, not MS. Granted it wouldnt surprise me if it was MS, and they seem most likely here, we still dont quite know that. Especially for the 3DS game here. Wayforward is definitely a valid guess.

also, another 2D 3DS game: Mighty Switchforce.

yep.

(http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/9259/78907810.png)

Stop this, please.
Some people can, some can't. I'm sure I can't see nothing that resembles Castlevania for at least the first third of the game, aside from the names.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: Kingshango on May 21, 2012, 12:09:10 PM
I expect many pages of arguing prior to E3.
Just like with the "I knew it! Lords of Shadow" thread.  **sighs**

It's gonna get better(worse) when the console sequel is shown.

Let the good times roll I guess.

Edit: Cotdamn I tried to post this 3 times.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 12:09:22 PM
Hey guys.

http://whois.domaintools.com/castlevania-mirroroffate.net (http://whois.domaintools.com/castlevania-mirroroffate.net)

Been registered since February.

Mirror of Fate is definitely the official title.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 12:09:36 PM
Well looky here folks!

http://whois.domaintools.com/castlevania-mirroroffate.net (http://whois.domaintools.com/castlevania-mirroroffate.net)

Mirror of fate is the title

OSM beat me to the punch, I already changed the topic title!
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: Maedhros on May 21, 2012, 12:09:58 PM
Thanks for the support, there's definitely a bias with some posters. They are fine with some IGA stupidity but not with some David Cox stupidity.
I already said i really liked Aria of sorrow for the most part but I agree with all the points you made.

All I was asking is for people to be fair about this, in the past few years castlevania in general has been getting more and more ridiculous. At least with this re-imagining we can get back to some basics .
Sumac isn't exactly the most rational member of this forum, just saying...
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 12:10:43 PM
Sumac isn't exactly the most rational member of this forum, just saying...
The poster after Sumac I agreed with too.
For someone that isn't rational he made good points.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: Nagumo on May 21, 2012, 12:11:33 PM
As it turns out, the domain "CastlevaniaMirrorofFate" has been registered by Konami since February, so the title of the game is true. However, going by what Cox said about the information being misunderstood, I'm willing to bet that this is actually the title for the console sequel and that they have no Castlevania 3DS game in development. 
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 12:13:01 PM
As it turns out, the domain "CastlevaniaMirrorofFate" has been registered by Konami since February, so the title of the game is true. However, going by what Cox said about the information being misunderstood, I'm willing to bet that this is actually the title for the console sequel and that they have no Castlevania 3DS game in development.

The info said we would have two castlevania announcements though, so I doubt that's the case.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: beingthehero on May 21, 2012, 12:13:48 PM
I'm not a big fan of Cox-kun, and I'm still looking forward to this. I'd like to see if it does feature Alucard. I wouldn't mind if it's either in 2D or 3D, as long as it's good. I do hope the soundtrack is better.

Also again,  Ahaseverus, you're still mistaken of the extent of Cox's involvement with the original  series. His first game was SotN, not CV X68000. Here's X68000's credits: http://www.vgmuseum.com/mrp/end-x68.htm (http://www.vgmuseum.com/mrp/end-x68.htm)

Note the lack of Cox-kun anywhere. He had nothing to do with the series until 1997, and again, only in marketing and distribution for Europe. CV X68000 wasn't even released outside of Japan in 1993.


Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: Nagumo on May 21, 2012, 12:13:57 PM
The info said we would have two castlevania announcements though, so I doubt that's the case.

So what? The second game doesn't have to be made by Mercury Steam.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: kingu on May 21, 2012, 12:14:04 PM
I'll choose to ignore those comments as I spent my time defending what I was saying, and was merely implying people should keep an open mind before judging a game without seeing anything because everyone knows judging before seeing is the true juvenile thing to do....
what

you lambasted the iga games and their supposed fans, generalizing them as preferring "anime" shit and such and in turn praised lords for the most basic components.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: Flame on May 21, 2012, 12:14:32 PM
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As it turns out, the domain "CastlevaniaMirrorofFate" has been registered by Konami since February, so the title of the game is true. However, going by what Cox said about the information being misunderstood, I'm willing to bet that this is actually the title for the console sequel and that they have no Castlevania 3DS game in development.
Or the 3DS game could have a totally different title.
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Stop this, please.
Some people can, some can't. I'm sure I can't see nothing that resembles Castlevania for at least the first third of the game, aside from the names.

Why? If people can keep bitching and posting how much LoS isnt a Castlevania and how the franchise is dead, I can keep posting what makes it a Castlevania to me.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on May 21, 2012, 12:15:37 PM
I will not put it up on the Site until there's a screenshot.
However, I will write it on the news as a rumor.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: Nagumo on May 21, 2012, 12:15:46 PM
Or the 3DS game could have a totally different title.

Yes, I'm just being biased.  :)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 12:16:49 PM
As it turns out, the domain "CastlevaniaMirrorofFate" has been registered by Konami since February, so the title of the game is true. However, going by what Cox said about the information being misunderstood, I'm willing to bet that this is actually the title for the console sequel and that they have no Castlevania 3DS game in development.
This sounds like a very likely possibility, but I hope not. I really need a new Castlevania on my 3DS.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: Maedhros on May 21, 2012, 12:16:59 PM
Or the 3DS game could have a totally different title.
Why? If people can keep bitching and posting how much LoS isnt a Castlevania and how the franchise is dead, I can keep posting what makes it a Castlevania to me.
Because it leads to flamewars. I tought you wanted these to stop.

These type of things never end, you can't convince no one in the end, neither they can convince you.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: Flame on May 21, 2012, 12:17:26 PM
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Yes, I'm just being biased.  :)
lol. I personally dont want a 3DS game, for aforementioned reasons, (dont have a 3DS, dont want to see the series relegated to handhelds AGAIN) and would prefer a console 360/ps3 game.

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Because it leads to flamewars. I tought you wanted these to stop.
Yous should try and convince your side to stop too then. ALL parties involved should stop. But I just dont think it will happen.

guys? if we cant stop arguing about this? can we at least make a new thread solely to duke out our arguments so as to not clutter this thread?
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 12:18:42 PM
what

you lambasted the iga games and their supposed fans, generalizing them as preferring "anime" shit and such and in turn praised lords for the most basic components.

Stop arguing about it? I dropped it last page.
I made my points as to why i defended LOS and I was only pointing out people let IGA stuff slide all the time, and I defended my position by naming why it's clearly very castlevania like.

You don't agree? That's fine I was just pointing out how dumb it is to hate a game we haven't even seen yet.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: Maedhros on May 21, 2012, 12:20:35 PM
Stop arguing about it? I dropped it last page.
I made my points as to why i defended LOS and I was only pointing out people let IGA stuff slide all the time, and I defended my position by naming why it's clearly very castlevania like.

You don't agree? That's fine I was just pointing out how dumb it is to hate a game we haven't even seen yet.
You started being totally wrong, with the most ridiculous arguments to boot.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: Flame on May 21, 2012, 12:21:12 PM
AAAAAND HERE WE GO AGAIN.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: kingu on May 21, 2012, 12:22:30 PM
Stop arguing about it? I dropped it last page.
I made my points as to why i defended LOS and I was only pointing out people let IGA stuff slide all the time, and I defended my position by naming why it's clearly very castlevania like.

You don't agree? That's fine I was just pointing out how dumb it is to hate a game we haven't even seen yet.
your behavior and attitude were extreme and presumptuous.

but sure thing, everyone should stop and stuff.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 12:22:48 PM
Apparently drop it means to argue more?

and it's your opinion that my argument was wrong, there were a few posters that shared the same opinion as me.
Again drop it, and lets wait and see the game before we judge it blindly.

Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 12:24:26 PM
your behavior and attitude were extreme and presumptuous.

but sure thing, everyone should stop and stuff.

Again you are entitled to feel that way but I thought people were acting ridiculous too on the other side flipping out without even seeing the game yet.
To each their own... agree to disagree...the end


So what would everyone think if Wayforward was developing it?
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 12:27:09 PM
So what would everyone think if Wayforward was developing it?
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b9/psxphile/reactions/spongebob-wallet.jpg)
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 12:29:02 PM
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b9/psxphile/reactions/spongebob-wallet.jpg)

Bloodrayne had such a nice look to it but I don't know how good they are with 2.5 type games, I'm not a fan of their take on double dragon. I mean it might be good but visually it doesn't look all that appealing to me. Who knows though! I would be down for their take on a metroidvania..
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: kingu on May 21, 2012, 12:29:39 PM
could wayforward handle 3d environments as well as they do 2d? their pixel work is gorgeous.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 12:30:59 PM
could wayforward handle 3d environments as well as they do 2d? their pixel work is gorgeous.

Yeah that's my point ...I'm not sure about that. That's why I'd actually like to see MercurySteams take though. Every sidescrolling part in LOS looked beautiful and had nice platforming elements. I kinda wish the whole game was like that honestly..
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: X on May 21, 2012, 12:31:24 PM
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So what would everyone think if Wayforward was developing it?

They did an awesome job with Contra 4 so I think they can definitely handle Castlevania. Especially if it were in 2D.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on May 21, 2012, 12:31:54 PM
I trust Wayforward.

And as admin, I will say it:  Stop arguing over shenanigans.

I say, let's speculate about the positive possibilities, so that we can bitch when the screenshots come out.  FOR GREAT JUSTICE!
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: Sindra on May 21, 2012, 12:32:17 PM
It won't happen, however. That would take actual listening to the series fans. Only thing Konami is interested in listen to is the ca-CHING of register sales.

It's cynical and an overused statement, but we all damn well know it's true.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: knightmere on May 21, 2012, 12:32:25 PM
I'm hoping the rumors of a DXC styled 3DS game turn out to be true.   Hopefully the soundtrack does the series justice, that was my biggest gripe about LoS.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 12:32:40 PM
(http://i42.tinypic.com/fmqpw1.jpg)

I mean imagine stuff like that ( obviously not as good graphically) with 3d effects because of the 3ds....
Dayummm...
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 12:32:44 PM
They did an awesome job with Contra 4 so I think they can definitely handle Castlevania. Especially if it were in 2D.
I wanted Wayforward to make a new ClassicVania as soon as I played Contra 4.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: Maedhros on May 21, 2012, 12:33:55 PM
I hope that, if it's 2.5D, the models they use on 3DS looks better than the ones in DXC. Outside the cutscenes, they looked a bit like shit. =/
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: Maedhros on May 21, 2012, 12:34:27 PM
(http://i42.tinypic.com/fmqpw1.jpg)

I mean imagine stuff like that ( obviously not as good graphically) with 3d effects because of the 3ds....
Dayummm...
The 3DS can't even run this.

Sorry for the DP, though the post would merge automatically.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 12:35:48 PM
The 3DS can't even run this.


that is why i said just not as good graphically. I'm saying their sidescrolling art design was fantastic looking.. I could see them doing great things with the 3d capabilities that the 3ds has.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: kingu on May 21, 2012, 12:36:42 PM
lords had a few great sights but castlevania should look spooky. GRIMWOODS
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 12:37:16 PM
(http://i42.tinypic.com/fmqpw1.jpg)

I mean imagine stuff like that ( obviously not as good graphically) with 3d effects because of the 3ds....
Dayummm...
Seeing this, I see Mercury Steam working in 2D somewhat believable now. I think the theory of someone developing it alongside MS isn't a very far fetched thing to ponder either. I just want a ton of well designed platforming and fun gameplay.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: knightmere on May 21, 2012, 12:37:23 PM
The 3DS can't even run this.

Sorry for the DP, though the post would merge automatically.
Who gives a fuck if the 3DS cant run that?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on May 21, 2012, 12:37:45 PM
List of awesome Wayforward titles that I've played:
Contra 4
Mighty Switch Force
Batman: the Brave & the Bold
Shantae: Risky's Revenge
A Boy & His Blob

I think it'd be totally alright if they worked on stuff, though their forte seems to be 2D sprite games.

Once again, to prove that you don't need high-resolution to deliver beautiful visuals, I turn to Wii favorite Xenoblade Chronicles:
(http://storage.siliconera.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/xenoblade_chronicles_thumb1.jpg)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 12:38:27 PM
lords had a few great sights but castlevania should look spooky. GRIMWOODS
I agree.

Hopefully they took the negative feedback and made a much darker game because the darker locations looked great in LOS....there just should have been more of it.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: affinity on May 21, 2012, 12:42:14 PM
Castlevania series, even 2D is best presented on consoles (Sony's fault for looking down on 2-D videogames since PS2. but with the growing digital market on PS3 and 360,  Konami could bring any new 2-D Castlevanias on console.), even though the GBA/DS series have strong Castlevanias, those Castlevanias could have been just as easily developed for console and presented even BETTER than how the portables presented those games.

I mean the whole 'metroidvania' era and rejuvenation of the series popularity was thanks mainly to SOTN, which has playstation console roots.  and the GBA/DS Castlevanias could have received more sales and fans being developed on PS2/PS3 instead of GBA/DS. 

while portables have their fans, they can't reach the most mainstream, biggest audience and consumer market by going 3DS or Vita instead. 

There are more PS3/360 owners than 3DS, PSP, Vita and DS combined.  and only half of the fanbase would buy a portable for a Castlevania.    There are many fans who would buy a portable,  but just as many wouldn't or shouldn't because the portable would just be a paper weight with so much less to play on it compared to console, and the portable screen size/controls really don't provide the best Castlevania gaming experience that only consoles offer.

Personally Konami really has their priorities backwards.    Castlevania should be getting as much funding and support than Metal Gear Solid, with Iga still in charge of new Castlevanias.   Imagine if Metal Gear franchise only received the budget and support that Castlevania had been receiving during the DS era.   

if Metal Gear Solid 2 and 3 originally developed for GBA/DS and Metal Gear Solid 4 only for PSP.   How much less attention they would get.   That's how it seems to me Castlevania has been treated for the most part. 

 Of course Castlevania has received more effort from Konami than anything Nintendo has been doing with Star Fox lately.   but handing the franchise over to foreigners like Cox is even more stupid than Capcom handing DMC over to Ninja Theory.   

Those fools don't have a clue to make all Castlevania fans excited, and Cox is one of the reasons the Castlevania fanbase is divided now.     

  it's like if Nintendo decides to let Jay Wilson make a Mario game.  How can fans accept LoS when it betrayed the foundations of Castlevania?   It's like Classical music fans not minding Rappers remixing their favorite songs into abominations.   LoS just leaves a bad taste that can't be forgiven.

who's the writer of MoF?  Didn't Alvarez write LoS story?  If so MoF's story is probably doomed already.   
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: Kingshango on May 21, 2012, 12:42:31 PM
If the animations anything like this
Castlevania Lords of Shadow - Abilities Sketch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlefPGlUs6s#)

SHUTUPANDTAKEMYMONEY.jpeg
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: DragonSlayr81 on May 21, 2012, 12:42:49 PM
No truce then? I guess it only takes one person and the cycle begins all over again.
Truce was never an option, sadly. It's always ego over stability!
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 12:44:34 PM
If the animations anything like this
Castlevania Lords of Shadow - Abilities Sketch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlefPGlUs6s#)

SHUTUPANDTAKEMYMONEY.jpeg

Lol Mercurysteam should just think/focus on making 2d castlevanias imo haha
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 12:45:23 PM
If the animations anything like this
Castlevania Lords of Shadow - Abilities Sketch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlefPGlUs6s#)

SHUTUPANDTAKEMYMONEY.jpeg
My wallet is crying tears of money.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: Maedhros on May 21, 2012, 12:47:15 PM
Who gives a fuck if the 3DS cant run that?
wWell, isn't the title almost confirmed for the 3DS? I was just saying the game wouldn't probably look that beautiful on the 3DS. Rayman Origins is an example of game not looking as good as the other versions.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: kingu on May 21, 2012, 12:48:26 PM
to specify on the environments in lords, they were more ancient and mystic. a dusk forest with dead trees wouldn't hurt. even a normal forest in the night, dark and vibrant colors contrasting. web in trees, no goblins.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: affinity on May 21, 2012, 12:48:48 PM
My wallet is crying tears of money.

it takes far more than flashy whip animations to make a worthy Castlevania.   Just saying.   ;D
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: beingthehero on May 21, 2012, 12:49:04 PM
I guess a 3D version of FOREST OF MONSTERS from SCIV or OoE's Misty Forest Road would be killer.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on May 21, 2012, 12:49:38 PM
MercurySteam:
Just color what that youtube video's sketches are doing, design some cool 2D stages and bosses and have a collaboration set of musicians including Araujo (for environmental/ambiance music), Yamane (battle/stage themes), and Koshiro (for anything else) for your audio.

Then sit back and take our money.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 12:50:13 PM
wWell, isn't the title almost confirmed for the 3DS? I was just saying the game wouldn't probably look that beautiful on the 3DS. Rayman Origins is an example of game not looking as good as the other versions.

I'd say rayman is pretty faithful across the board. The vita version in particular looks beautiful as can be.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: Rictrunks on May 21, 2012, 12:53:10 PM
MercurySteam's David Coxx recently changed his Twitter profile image to the following piece of art.
(http://www.gonintendo.com/content/uploads/images/2012_5/Wolf.jpg)
http://www.gonintendo.com/content/uploads/images/2012_5/Wolf.jpg (http://www.gonintendo.com/content/uploads/images/2012_5/Wolf.jpg)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 12:54:18 PM
MercurySteam's David Coxx recently changed his Twitter profile image to the following piece of art.
(http://www.gonintendo.com/content/uploads/images/2012_5/Wolf.jpg)
http://www.gonintendo.com/content/uploads/images/2012_5/Wolf.jpg (http://www.gonintendo.com/content/uploads/images/2012_5/Wolf.jpg)

The one thing that gives me hope of playing as a half vampire.
Unless it just signifies one of dracula's transformations...
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 12:57:16 PM
The one thing that gives me hope of playing as a half vampire.
Unless it just signifies one of dracula's transformations...
The rumors are saying it's part of a larger poster, and the wolf is Alucard stalking a pale red eyed Gabriel/Dracula.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: DragonSlayr81 on May 21, 2012, 12:57:33 PM
to specify on the environments in lords, they were more ancient and mystic. a dusk forest with dead trees wouldn't hurt. even a normal forest in the night, dark and vibrant colors contrasting. web in trees, no goblins.
Yes, LoS had that more "ancient" Feel to it. Dark, creepy, spooky, maybe even more gothic themes would be nice. More night. I know people say, "But some earlier castlevanias had day stages", but to tell you the truth, even back then, I can honestly say was wasn't a fan of THOSE either, so it's not LoS bias. I dislike mostly ALL the daytime areas in ALL CV games. I think the night stages benefit the series far more than the say stages. Dark night, cloudy or clear, full moon looming in the sky, rain or wind, stars or not, sound of bats, wolves and night insects from all around. I love that.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 12:58:20 PM
The rumors are saying it's part of a larger poster, and the wolf is Alucard stalking a pale red eyed Gabriel/Dracula.

which would make you think you are playing as Alucard....BUT....Alucard using a whip?...hrm..
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on May 21, 2012, 12:59:25 PM
Adrian Belmont, amirite?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 01:01:08 PM
which would make you think you are playing as Alucard....BUT....Alucard using a whip?...hrm..
It could be a whip like weapon.

Maybe Trevor is also on the poster.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 01:04:52 PM
It could be a whip like weapon.

Maybe Trevor is also on the poster.
The only thing i hate about these belmont focused games is the lack of equipment.
I'd be cool with it if it had a portrait of ruin approach. Let you get whips, swords, equipment.

I like options!
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: beingthehero on May 21, 2012, 01:05:21 PM
Or maybe Grant DaNasty?

We can always wonder. Grant lends himself well to some spastic combat.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 01:06:01 PM
The only thing i hate about these belmont focused games is the lack of equipment.
I'd be cool with it if it had a portrait of ruin approach. Let you get whips, swords, equipment.

I like options!
Well the Combat Cross was destroyed. There might not even be a whip anymore.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 01:06:52 PM
Well the Combat Cross was destroyed. There might not even be a whip anymore.

yeah but i could have sworn the leaked info out there said something about the main character using a whip in the game. hrm...
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: JR on May 21, 2012, 01:12:13 PM
I remember MS saying a while back that they were working on two projects. I had a feeling that only one of them was Castlevania related, but in light of this news, maybe both of them really are?? Not to mention a portable title would finally get me to take the plunge on a 3DS, so that could be good...

Although LoS wasn't my ideal Castlevania game by any means, I still enjoyed playing it. Looking forward to E3 with very cautious optimism (despite it being Konami and all).

And I have to admit, I'm still really curious to see where they take this whole storyline.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: Chernabogue on May 21, 2012, 01:13:49 PM
All theses theories are cool. I wonder if Gabriel had a son after becoming Dracula.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 01:15:19 PM
I remember MS saying a while back that they were working on two projects. I had a feeling that only one of them was Castlevania related, but in light of this news, maybe both of them really are?? Not to mention a portable title would finally get me to take the plunge on a 3DS, so that could be good...

Although LoS wasn't my ideal Castlevania game by any means, I still enjoyed playing it. Looking forward to E3 with very cautious optimism (despite it being Konami and all).

And I have to admit, I'm still really curious to see where they take this whole storyline.

ditto.

I'm thinkin' the storyline plays out like the castlevania of old...we play as belmonts ( or an Alucard of types) and we try to take down Dracula who is the devils pawn. The extra scene ending in LOS is meant to be like one of the last entries ( just in case it wasn't a hit..to show where they would take it)...I think it's safe to assume in the later games, you control dracula and try to take on the devil and end your curse. To me is a better ending than this 1999 eclipse dealioz..

At least to me...Dracula was always a tragic character and they are really driving home the tragic nature of it in this storyline imo..( symphony of the night did it well though)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 01:17:10 PM
And I have to admit, I'm still really curious to see where they take this whole storyline.
Likewise. That's probably the majority reason why I'm so excited for E3 despite being disappointed by LoS. I guess it's blind faith in a way.
At least to me...Dracula was always a tragic character and they are really driving home the tragic nature of it in this storyline imo..( symphony of the night did it well though)
I'm still not fully sold on Dracula's character. He's just someone who has terrible luck and "never had a choice." At least they explained where he obtains his powers from.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: DragonSlayr81 on May 21, 2012, 01:20:41 PM
I remember MS saying a while back that they were working on two projects. I had a feeling that only one of them was Castlevania related, but in light of this news, maybe both of them really are?? Not to mention a portable title would finally get me to take the plunge on a 3DS, so that could be good...

Although LoS wasn't my ideal Castlevania game by any means, I still enjoyed playing it. Looking forward to E3 with very cautious optimism (despite it being Konami and all).

And I have to admit, I'm still really curious to see where they take this whole storyline.
Like I said, two CV games being announced would be a helluva start for Konami to make up for their rotten 25th anniversary. At the very LEAST!

And while I didn't care for the setting(among other things) of LoS, I am keeping an open mind to where they plan on going. Like I said, I'd love for MS to tackle a more gothic, Victorian set CV title.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: crisis on May 21, 2012, 01:24:25 PM
To whoever said a few pages back that I'm just a "LoS hater,"

You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Sit down, son.


Mirror of Fate is a better name than Mirror of Faith or whatever. Perhaps Gabriel will try to change his fate, in turn creating a good mirror-version which names himself Trevor lol. Gameplay wise lets hope they don't fuck up, since this IS MercurySteam's first shot at a handheld and they may very well just be winging it.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 01:27:29 PM
To whoever said a few pages back that I'm just a "LoS hater,"

You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Sit down, son.


Mirror of Fate is a better name than Mirror of Faith or whatever. Perhaps Gabriel will try to change his fate, in turn creating a good mirror-version which names himself Trevor lol. Gameplay wise lets hope they don't fuck up, since this IS MercurySteam's first shot at a handheld and they may very well just be winging it.
That's my biggest concern too. I think they are great with level design but we don't know how they would do a sidescrolling adventure. I hope for the best...
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: Sumac on May 21, 2012, 01:30:06 PM
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You started being totally wrong, with the most ridiculous arguments to boot.
And this guy dared to call me "irrational"?!
Tsk, Tsk...
Oh, and let me guess, I am irrational because I have my own opinion and doesn't afraid to protect it?

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I already said i really liked Aria of sorrow for the most part but I agree with all the points you made.
OOE is one of my favorite games in the series, so its hard to tell that I unconditionally hate IGA too. But when I see how some people again and again bashing something that I like, when it is not neccesary and everything that have could been said about the topic was actually already said (more than one, mind you), I just feel obligated to interfere. No place for the hivemind.

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You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Sit down, son.
OK, OK. I honestly believe now, that you're big fan of the LOS...you masterfully hide it.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: Sindra on May 21, 2012, 01:32:01 PM
Sumac, quit trolling. It's helping nothing and gets old.


Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: Flame on May 21, 2012, 01:33:11 PM
My wallet is crying tears of money.
"Poor. beautiful Wallet... You will cry tears of money before this night has ended.." [/PatrickStewart]

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Well the Combat Cross was destroyed. There might not even be a whip anymore.

Rinaldo Gandolfi is still out there though. Some of the Brotherhood knights have seen him, with the disguise of an old beggar. he could make another one.

Im certain that Gabriel breaking the Combat Cross will somehow be plot relevant. Not only because Belmonts will need a new whip, but I feel that it means something more... or rather, will, mean something more. probably as a way to bring Rinaldo into the story from the background he's hiding in.

Crisis? Sumac? could you two please just... shut up with the flamebait and argument? you are ruining the peaceful atmosphere that took Jorge admining it up to come about.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: Chernabogue on May 21, 2012, 01:34:48 PM
Also please, someone, fix the thread title to "(3DS)" and not "( 3ds )", please, please. Thanks. XD
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 01:35:05 PM
(http://images.gamersyde.com/image_castlevania_lords_of_shadow-12568-1869_0007.jpg)

I just hope both Mercurysteam Castlevania games they are making go more in this direction look wise ^
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: Munchy on May 21, 2012, 01:37:32 PM
Oh man, I can't wait for the music to be even shorter and more repetitive because of limited cartridge space!

...But seriously, this could be cool. I'm wondering how much of it will actually correspond to the rumors. (Also, would LoS combos work well at all in a 2D space? I'd think they'd be kinda overpowered.)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 01:39:10 PM
Im certain that Gabriel breaking the Combat Cross will somehow be plot relevant. Not only because Belmonts will need a new whip, but I feel that it means something more... or rather, will, mean something more. probably as a way to bring Rinaldo into the story from the background he's hiding in.
He left it in pieces in the realm where the Forgotten One was. Maybe we'll go back there as Alucard to retrieve it or something.

Theorizing is fun.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: crisis on May 21, 2012, 01:42:16 PM
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OK, OK. I honestly believe now, that you're big fan of the LOS...you masterfully hide it.

lol, of course it was Sumac who said it, my biggest fan

I don't need to prove nothing to you otherwise. Check the massive LoS thread and you'll see how much I supported the game/contributed to the conversation, instead of blindly praising it like some do. But hey, I also criticized it's faults, too, because like others, I also feel it's highly derivative of everything but Castlevania. So get off my dick already  :rollseyes: :rollseyes: :rollseyes:


I wonder if MoF will have a special edition package?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Chernabogue on May 21, 2012, 01:42:55 PM
I hope we'll get some cool music pieces, Yamane-like. :)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: Maedhros on May 21, 2012, 01:43:02 PM
I'd say rayman is pretty faithful across the board. The vita version in particular looks beautiful as can be.
Rayman looks like shit on the 3DS. I don't know why, just play the demo and compare it to ANY version out there. It fucking sucks. =/
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 01:46:10 PM
Rayman looks like shit on the 3DS. I don't know why, just play the demo and compare it to ANY version out there. It fucking sucks. =/

Haven't played it on the 3ds but it looks great on the wii and the wii isn't as powerful as the other systems. Maybe they just didn't it well on the 3ds. 3ds can produce great things look at the graphics on Resident Evil Revelations. I dont' think we need to be concerned in that area.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 01:47:55 PM
I hope we'll get some cool music pieces, Yamane-like. :)
The music is my biggest worry right now. :(
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Sindra on May 21, 2012, 01:49:54 PM
I hope we'll get some cool music pieces, Yamane-like. :)

I'd settle for anything with beat and melody that actually grabs you. Castlevania music was doing that before Yamane, and she just managed to continue it, but had people helping her as well with collaborating. Araujo just didn't get that you need more than background noise to make a good soundtrack. It's like he took what SCVIV did and watered it down. We need some rhythm! We need some "Clockwork Mansion" and "Forest of Monsters" thrown into the moody tunes.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 01:51:13 PM
The music is my biggest worry right now. :(
didn't the new composer win an award for his soundtrack for the game too?...
I would argue it's good music but ....not the type castlevania really needs......
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Kingshango on May 21, 2012, 01:51:20 PM
I'd settle for anything with beat and melody that actually grabs you. Castlevania music was doing that before Yamane, and she just managed to continue it, but had people helping her as well with collaborating. Araujo just didn't get that you need more than background noise to make a good soundtrack. It's like he took what SCVIV did and watered it down. We need some rhythm! We need some "Clockwork Mansion" and "Forest of Monsters" thrown into the moody tunes.

Call it a gut feeling but I think the music will be the same as it was in Lords of Shadow.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Sindra on May 21, 2012, 01:54:22 PM
If Araujo is back doing it, then yeah...probably.

Unless he listened to feedback from people about how to improve the music and make it more in line with what made the soundtracks of past CV games great, we're going to get the same grand theatrical scores that actually do very little to make you want to cling to the music much and say "Hey, remember that one tune on lvl. 3? I had that stuck in my head all day!"

And using the "I used Super Castlevania 4 as a template" excuse is bullshit, because that game had plenty of tunes that were gripping and had melody and beat to them. He had maybe 2-3 songs that I could hear that have anything close to memorable melody. It should be closer to half the damn soundtrack. Wake up, Oscar!

Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 01:55:54 PM
The biggest question on everyone's mind is undoubtedly this:
(http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/4/40059/1197734-medusa_head_large.jpg)
Will the game have Medusa Heads flying in 3D?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: uzo on May 21, 2012, 01:56:41 PM
It won't happen, however. That would take actual listening to the series fans. Only thing Konami is interested in listen to is the ca-CHING of register sales.

It's cynical and an overused statement, but we all damn well know it's true.

And I'm not even sure about that anymore. The way Konami is treating their PR, and their own damn projects, I'm becoming convinced they don't want to make ANY money from this point on.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 01:56:57 PM
The biggest question on everyone's mind is undoubtedly this:
(http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/4/40059/1197734-medusa_head_large.jpg)
Will the game have Medusa Heads flying in 3D?

Good chance since it's a side-scroller!
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: Maedhros on May 21, 2012, 01:58:20 PM
Haven't played it on the 3ds but it looks great on the wii and the wii isn't as powerful as the other systems. Maybe they just didn't it well on the 3ds. 3ds can produce great things look at the graphics on Resident Evil Revelations. I dont' think we need to be concerned in that area.
RE: R uses a corridor based level design to achieve that level of graphics and models. Also, the MT Framework is godlike, doubt we will see something like it on the 3DS from Mercury Steam who can't even achieve stable 30FPS on PS3/XBOX360.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Kingshango on May 21, 2012, 01:58:37 PM
 
If Araujo is back doing it, then yeah...probably.



Araujo is Mercurysteam's "go to guy" when it comes to music, been that way since Severance. Sadly, I don't see them dropping him unless he retires or something.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Foffy on May 21, 2012, 01:58:41 PM
The biggest question on everyone's mind is undoubtedly this:
(http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/4/40059/1197734-medusa_head_large.jpg)
Will the game have Medusa Heads flying in 3D?

Is that from the old canon? Probably not. ;)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on May 21, 2012, 02:00:13 PM
Having mixed feelings about this myself.

For 1, Not to happy with hearing Cox's involvement in this since that could mean just another LOS type of game but just fitted to the 3DS handheld (I'm talking 3d gameplay and LOTR scenary).

But on the other hand, I heard that possibility of it being 2.5D which could POTENTIALLY work out IF they outsource it to someone who handles 2.D gameplay great like say.....WAYFOWARD

I'd be fine with Cox and Alvarez being involved only if they took fans complaints into account such as better "castlevania" type of music and more dark and less light scenery.

More classic enemies such as Slogra and Medusa heads would be nice.

Also some good ole platforming would be nice, none of that wall shimmering crap, but if this is a 2.D or 2.5D game I hardly see why this would not be easy for them to do.

Other than that, I'm perfectly willing to give it a chance IF they can deliver a product that I am interested in.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 02:01:31 PM
RE: R uses a corridor based level design to achieve that level of graphics and models. Also, the MT Framework is godlike, doubt we will see something like it on the 3DS from Mercury Steam who can't even achieve stable 30FPS on PS3/XBOX360.

Yeah and this is a sidescroller...it's not exactly the most hardcore hardware pushing type of gameplay style...lol
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: Sindra on May 21, 2012, 02:01:47 PM
And I'm not even sure about that anymore. The way Konami is treating their PR, and their own damn projects, I'm becoming convinced they don't want to make ANY money from this point on.

Remember when you used to see lots of tv commercials for all sorts of different games, back in the day? What happened to those days? All I see now are ads for World of Warcraft and Modern Warfare.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: Maedhros on May 21, 2012, 02:05:04 PM
Yeah and this is a sidescroller...it's not exactly the most hardcore hardware pushing type of gameplay style...lol
It is? I'm not assuming nothing yet, I'm just hoping it is.

If it is, It depends of what they want to achieve and how well their framework will be on the hardware.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: cecil-kain on May 21, 2012, 02:10:10 PM
Wow.  We're an excitable bunch! lol  :-D
Took me forever just to get caught up on all of this talk...

I remember when the "Complete Chronicles" was rumored last fall, and everyone was getting ahead of themselves like this.  But this time, there is some dubious evidence to support the rumor --the most important of which being Konami's quick response and the timing of the "leak".

If any of these rumors about the alleged game are even half true, there may be some cause for all of us to celebrate.
Here's my personal opinion on some of what's been said here.

VERY good news...
-- 2.5-D Castlevania
-- Dracula's Curse storyline.

Caution...
-- David Cox is involved --a man of his position should never mislead or condescend to the fans.  Maybe it was all a misunderstanding.  Maybe it wasn't his fault.  Maybe he just needs a little PR coaching.  Either way, the man should apologize and start building some bridges.

Not so good...
-- Continuation of the LoS mythos, instead of rebooting Akumajo Dracula.
-- 2-D Castlevania still condemned to technically inferior portable machines.

There's really not much more to say until there's some hard news on this matter...
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 02:10:29 PM
It is? I'm not assuming nothing yet, I'm just hoping it is.

If it is, It depends of what they want to achieve and how well their framework will be on the hardware.

well the rumors before this reveal were that a 3ds sidescrolling castlevania by mercurysteam was being made...then bam we get this info. So I'd say it's a safe bet.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Munchy on May 21, 2012, 02:12:12 PM
If they find a way to put QTEs and wall shimmying in a 2D format game... I will be very disappointed.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: DragonSlayr81 on May 21, 2012, 02:12:19 PM
He left it in pieces in the realm where the Forgotten One was. Maybe we'll go back there as Alucard to retrieve it or something.

Theorizing is fun.
I'd prefer the Combat Cross to be left where it was. Rinaldo could always create a new, more powerful whip, which could be this new canon's version of the Vampire Killer(kinda another nod to LoI where Rinaldo was vital to the creation of the VK).
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on May 21, 2012, 02:13:47 PM
If they find a way to put QTEs and wall shimmying in a 2D format game... I will be very disappointed.

You and me both.

That would be such a kick in the ballz.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 02:14:32 PM
I'd prefer the Combat Cross to be left where it was. Rinaldo could always create a new, more powerful whip, which could be this new canon's version of the Vampire Killer(kinda another nod to LoI where Rinaldo was vital to the creation of the VK).
If Rinaldo does show up and does make a new whip, will it be Gabriel's bane or a whip that's not exclusive to Belmonts? There's just so much to ponder going by the old canon and what ideas they're going to rework in this new canon.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Odile Kuronuma on May 21, 2012, 02:24:12 PM
My response to this thread: Yuck!
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: Kingshango on May 21, 2012, 02:25:28 PM
If Rinaldo does show up and does make a new whip, will it be Gabriel's bane or a whip that's not exclusive to Belmonts? There's just so much to ponder going by the old canon and what ideas they're going to rework in this new canon.

Rinoldo could have made one last weapon before he died, the greatest weapon he had ever made that trumps even the combat cross but died before giving it a offical name. The protagonis(well call him Trevor for now) finds the weapon and remember's the day where he was told that the savior Gabriel wielded a whip the people once called "Vampire Killer" and calls the new whip the Vampire killer. 
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Dengo vlad tepes on May 21, 2012, 02:32:28 PM
no comment ... really
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3ds )
Post by: The Silverlord on May 21, 2012, 02:35:29 PM
This is like one of those NeoGAF threads during the E3 live feeds, you just never catch up to the last page . . . *gasps* I'VE MADE IT.  I HAVE CRAWLED UP OVER DEBORAH CLIFF.

I did not think for a second that Mercurysteam would be given two games to manage and/or develop, even despite the murmurings and, was it a hint by Cox?  I did think Konami were holding off handheld development due to the rise in popularity of phone and tablet devices (and uncertainty with 3DS/Vita), to watch the waters as it were.  But they don't want to be left behind, and Castlevania has I think increased in popularity since the release of Lords of Shadow.  Best to capitalise on the success of the game; why not release two unto the unsuspecting world?

I think with it possibly being Cox and Mercurysteam, I kind of believe/hope it's a grim offering as far distanced from the likes of Portrait of Ruin as possible, with decrepit landscapes, rolling fogs, full moons, rain effects, coupled with whip-swinging and savage monsters.  Traps for the player.  I'll even concede a new musical score.  This really could scratch an itch for a decent atmospheric side-scolling 2D romp.

Phew, nostalgia . . .

*IS KNOCKED BACK DOWN CLIFF BY A MEDUSA HEAD*
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: crisis on May 21, 2012, 02:44:26 PM
How many people here are going to buy a 3DS now?

Thankfully I already have one (been playing Chrono Trigger).. and what about The Adventure for the e-shop lol
I don't have many 3DS games. Barely a handful.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Chernabogue on May 21, 2012, 02:46:16 PM
How many people here are going to buy a 3DS now?
I am. Also for KH3D.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Munchy on May 21, 2012, 02:47:26 PM
How many people here are going to buy a 3DS now?

It will still be a while yet for me. Need a damn job first.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on May 21, 2012, 02:48:58 PM
How many people here are going to buy a 3DS now?

Thankfully I already have one (been playing Chrono Trigger).. and what about The Adventure for the e-shop lol
I don't have many 3DS games. Barely a handful.

If this game actually turns out good than I will highly consider buying one.

I am already eager to play KH3D and Resident Evil revelations on the 3DS and if this game is something actually worth while than it will be the final push I need to get one.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 02:50:48 PM
How many people here are going to buy a 3DS now?
Already have one. I do not regret my purchase, and Castlevania being leaked is the icing with the cherry on top for me.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: The Silverlord on May 21, 2012, 02:51:32 PM
...if this game is something actually worth while than it will be the final push I need to get one.

Same for me.  I need a good excuse to get one, I wasn't wholly impressed when I had a go, but a new CV could be just the answer.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 21, 2012, 02:52:18 PM
For the Love of God 9 pages in 2 hours. This is madness.
So yeah the domain registration is a confirmation.

My question is: are both games sharing the same name? (Mirror of fate) because there was only one of them registered.
http://whois.domaintools.com/castlevania-mirroroffate.com (http://whois.domaintools.com/castlevania-mirroroffate.com)

I'll repeat this. Or I get my Console Sequel or I'll kill somebody.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Foffy on May 21, 2012, 02:55:00 PM
Maybe Mirror of Fate is the one they're showing now, but the other they may save for later in the year.

Remember, Lords 2 has been intended as a 2013 title. What if MoF is a 2012 release? Konami doesn't have much for this year.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: shelverton. on May 21, 2012, 02:55:28 PM
I just read through 19 pages, and now I can FINALLY post. :D

Except... I don't remember what I was gonna say anymore.  :-\

Maybe something about.. something?
Anyway, this might be a system seller for me. Mercury Steam needs to make this a sidescroller, and they need to do something about the soundtrack to make it catchier. Other than that, surprise me!
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Maedhros on May 21, 2012, 02:56:46 PM
2D Castlevania ALWAYS get me to buy a system.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: crisis on May 21, 2012, 02:58:46 PM
Mirror of Fate just sounds like a 3DS title. The ps3 title needs a more "epic" subtitle.

like TESTAMENT OF SIN

or Castlevania: Quantum of Solace



Castlevania: Dark of the Moon
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 03:00:28 PM
Maybe Mirror of Fate is the one they're showing now, but the other they may save for later in the year.

Remember, Lords 2 has been intended as a 2013 title. What if MoF is a 2012 release? Konami doesn't have much for this year.
Would be nuts if we got both in the same year. I think the console sequel coming out next year sounds more realistic though.

I'm pretty stoked that this might be Konami's first E3 in AWHILE where MGS didn't hog the entire spotlight for once.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 21, 2012, 03:01:21 PM
Mirror of Fate just sounds like a 3DS title. The ps3 title needs a more "epic" subtitle.

like TESTAMENT OF SIN

or Castlevania: Quantum of Solace



Castlevania: Dark of the Moon
Man I like your opinions but your sarcasm irritates me. A lot.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 03:02:07 PM
I still pray that the other castlevania game is coming out for vita...don't neglect such a powerful handheld....... :(
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Munchy on May 21, 2012, 03:02:45 PM
Already have one. I do not regret my purchase, and Castlevania being leaked is the icing with the cherry on top for me.

Speaking of which, do shoot me those rumors in a PM. I'm curious and could care less about spoiling myself. I am very very excite.

Castlevania always tends to be the tipping point of me buying a console. (Except a TGCD, those are way too fragile and expensive.)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Dengo vlad tepes on May 21, 2012, 03:05:45 PM
I was more excited until i saw cox using the wolf picture as his profile picture which it means , its another lords of shadow "another game made for not my typos"
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Kingshango on May 21, 2012, 03:06:44 PM
I held off on getting a 3DS and I've been leaning on getting one over the summer.

Now depending on how MoF looks, it might just push me over the edge.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 03:08:22 PM
Speaking of which, do shoot me those rumors in a PM. I'm curious and could care less about spoiling myself. I am very very excite.

Castlevania always tends to be the tipping point of me buying a console. (Except a TGCD, those are way too fragile and expensive.)
Sent them.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: shelverton. on May 21, 2012, 03:10:26 PM

when I try to access "castlevania-mirroroffate.net" it brings me to http://www.alex-shepherd.com/ (http://www.alex-shepherd.com/)

I wonder what that means.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Dengo vlad tepes on May 21, 2012, 03:11:11 PM
I held off on getting a 3DS and I've been leaning on getting one over the summer.

Now depending on how MoF looks, it might just push me over the edge.

this !
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Maedhros on May 21, 2012, 03:13:02 PM
Castlevania + Mass Effect crossover CONFIRMED!
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: crisis on May 21, 2012, 03:13:55 PM
i wonder how the Anti-Chapel members feels about all this
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 03:15:03 PM
i wonder how the Anti-Chapel members feels about all this
I'm surprised that place still exists. I thought they all abandoned Castlevania when LoS came out.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Kingshango on May 21, 2012, 03:16:38 PM
i wonder how the Anti-Chapel members feels about all this

We'll know soon enough, im pretty sure they all migrated here.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Green Stranger on May 21, 2012, 03:17:54 PM
I'm ready for whatever this might turn out to be. I guess that's just the excitement that's making me unbiased. I don't know about you fellas but I would love to see the CV1-4 style of boxart again. That would be a nice throwback.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: meanguyjones on May 21, 2012, 03:18:54 PM
I was more excited until i saw cox using the wolf picture as his profile picture which it means , its another lords of shadow "another game made for not my typos"

Haha, what?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: flyingchai on May 21, 2012, 03:20:05 PM
Exciting stuff.
I'd love to get a PM of those rumors too.  ;)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Chernabogue on May 21, 2012, 03:22:49 PM
Exciting stuff.
I'd love to get a PM of those rumors too.  ;)
All the rumors can be found in this thread. ;)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 03:28:17 PM
Exciting stuff.
I'd love to get a PM of those rumors too.  ;)
Man I wish I could just copy paste everything I've sent. Too bad there's no feature where you can just look at messages you've sent and relay that.

Sending them now.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 03:31:50 PM
Why can't you just post the rumors here....?....

it's not like it's not out there on the internet, and it's technically only rumors. I mean it was all posted in the neogaf thread.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Foffy on May 21, 2012, 03:33:17 PM
I'm surprised that place still exists. I thought they all abandoned Castlevania when LoS came out.

I think one of Successor the Cruel posted here recently, but that was about Lords 2. Wonder how he feels about the portable front going to Mercury Steam, too.


EDIT: And seriously, post the rumors here. Nobody is going to hang you if they're wrong or right. Playing secrecy on something that's sort of already out of the bag is a little meaningless.
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Post by: knightmere on May 21, 2012, 03:36:19 PM
I think one of Successor the Cruel posted here recently, but that was about Lords 2. Wonder how he feels about the portable front going to Mercury Steam, too.


EDIT: And seriously, post the rumors here. Nobody is going to hang you if they're wrong or right. Playing secrecy on something that's sort of already out of the bag is a little meaningless.

Who cares what they think?  That place is dead anyway.
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Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 03:39:18 PM
EDIT: And seriously, post the rumors here. Nobody is going to hang you if they're wrong or right. Playing secrecy on something that's sort of already out of the bag is a little meaningless.
Alright, fine.

DA RUMORS
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The game will be a Metroidvania, 2.5D. 3D graphics but side scrolling, so think Dracula X Chronicles on PSP. Lords of Shadow canon/art direction, the combat will be similar to LoS.

There will be no leveling up, and the design of the game meshes stages with Metroidvania maps, so I guess something similar to Order of Ecclesia?

First he told me he believes the protag is Alucard, but now he thinks it could be Trevor Belmont when he had no textures put on him at the time. Whoever it is, the protag uses a whip. There will be a Belmont clan, he assures me Alucard is present, and Trevor is the father of Simon Belmont.

Were supposed to get a CG trailer of Dracula, and two announcements for two new games. 3DSVania which will be a prequel to LoS2 but a sequel to LoS1, and the console sequel.
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Post by: beingthehero on May 21, 2012, 03:42:32 PM
I want to know what Mr. P's Castlevania Realm thinks, because I fight against the trend.

Also, if it's Alucard, I wonder if they'll retain his Symphony look? Vampire Gabriel does somewhat hearken back to SotN's Dracula, albeit more savage.
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Post by: Foffy on May 21, 2012, 03:42:48 PM
Oh, that's it? I already read that. I thought you had some PORTRAITofRUIN shit going on with an entire boss list, plot details, and area names.
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Post by: knightmere on May 21, 2012, 03:45:37 PM
I want to know what Mr. P's Castlevania Realm thinks, because I fight against the trend.

Also, if it's Alucard, I wonder if they'll retain his Symphony look? Vampire Gabriel does somewhat hearken back to SotN's Dracula, albeit more savage.

Don't count on Cox to retain anything that wasn't there before he took over.   
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Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 03:46:04 PM
Oh, that's it? I already read that. I thought you had some PORTRAITofRUIN shit going on with an entire boss list, plot details, and area names.
Nope, I know just about as much as you guys do now. Why do you think I was speculating for a bit in the last couple pages of the thread? :P
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Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 03:47:56 PM
Don't count on Cox to retain anything that wasn't there before he took over.

Idk about that Gabriel's design isn't far removed from the designs of the older belmont characters with the original artist.

If Alucard is being used it will be obvious that it's a half-vampire character so there's that and I doubt it will be so vastly different that it will throw people off....
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Post by: Kingshango on May 21, 2012, 03:48:54 PM
To add to the those rumors regarding the console sequel:

That Castlevania game is rumored to be non linear like Darksiders or Arkahm City.

The new engine will have better framerate, better image quality and bigger enviroments with little to no loading.

The PS3 version is the lead platform and while the 360 version runs fine, it will require disc swapping again to access eariler areas.

Plot, setting and protagonist is still up in the air.

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Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 03:50:17 PM
To add to the those rumors regarding the console sequel:

That Castlevania game is rumored to be non linear like Darksiders or Arkahm City.
Am I the only one who thinks of a 3D Simon's Quest when I read this?
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Post by: shelverton. on May 21, 2012, 03:51:17 PM
To add to the those rumors regarding the console sequel:

That Castlevania game is rumored to be non linear like Darksiders or Arkahm City.

I approve 100% of that rumor. I hope it's true. I need something open ended and interconnected to play with.
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Post by: Foffy on May 21, 2012, 03:51:39 PM
To add to the those rumors regarding the console sequel:

That Castlevania game is rumored to be non linear like Darksiders or Arkahm City.

The new engine will have better framerate, better image quality and bigger enviroments with little to no loading.

The PS3 version is the lead platform and while the 360 version runs fine, it will require disc swapping again to access eariler areas.

I hope it would be more like Dark Souls than those two games.
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Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 03:53:17 PM
To add to the those rumors regarding the console sequel:

That Castlevania game is rumored to be non linear like Darksiders or Arkahm City.

The new engine will have better framerate, better image quality and bigger enviroments with little to no loading.

The PS3 version is the lead platform and while the 360 version runs fine, it will require disc swapping again to access eariler areas.

Plot, setting and protagonist is still up in the air.

Damn there goes any chance of a Vita version of the game.
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Post by: crisis on May 21, 2012, 03:54:01 PM
Quote from: beingthehero
Also, if it's Alucard, I wonder if they'll retain his Symphony look?

anything but these

(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090622075109/castlevania/images/thumb/7/7b/Animated_Dracula%27s_Curse_Alucard.JPG/387px-Animated_Dracula%27s_Curse_Alucard.JPG)
(http://th00.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2012/061/f/6/alucard_castlevania_mmd_needs_rigging_by_25animeguys-d4rhai4.png)
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Post by: Neobelmont on May 21, 2012, 04:04:41 PM
Wow last time I checked it was 9 pages, but now it's already in it's twenty's  :o
To add to the those rumors regarding the console sequel:

That Castlevania game is rumored to be non linear like Darksiders or Arkahm City.

The new engine will have better framerate, better image quality and bigger enviroments with little to no loading.

The PS3 version is the lead platform and while the 360 version runs fine, it will require disc swapping again to access eariler areas.

Plot, setting and protagonist is still up in the air.


Am I the only one who thinks of a 3D Simon's Quest when I read this?


far from it look like if it is true then MS is stepping their game up. This new engine must really be something.
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Post by: Kingshango on May 21, 2012, 04:05:13 PM
anything but these


I've thought about it for a while now and I believe since  Lords of Shadow's art direction and character and monster designs were clearly inspired by guillermo del toro, I think Alucard will look like Prince Nuada from Hellboy 2.
Prince Nuada - Lord Of The Drums (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFeybAxP3z0#ws)

Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: beingthehero on May 21, 2012, 04:07:51 PM
Given how Cox-kun's team retained Brauner, Olrox, and Wygol Village, I don't see why they wouldn't nod back to Alucard's Symphony design.
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Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 04:10:55 PM
I've thought about it for a while now and I believe since  Lords of Shadow's art direction and character and monster designs were clearly inspired by guillermo del toro, I think Alucard will look like Prince Nuada from Hellboy 2.
Prince Nuada - Lord Of The Drums (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFeybAxP3z0#ws)
That's a very good theory.

I think Alucard will retain his original look more than any of the characters that find their way into the LoS canon. Next to Simon or Richter, Alucard is the most popular character in the series.
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Post by: Profbeanburrito on May 21, 2012, 04:17:07 PM
If this rumor is true, awesome! I'm glad I have a 3DS. But I really hope Mercury Steam is working on a PS3/360 sequel.  Also, if it's 3D, they better incorporate the circle pad pro
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Post by: Foffy on May 21, 2012, 04:18:27 PM
Wow last time I checked it was 9 pages, but now it's already in it's twenty's  :o

far from it look like if it is true then MS is stepping their game up. This new engine must really be something.

If I recall right, from the same article that got us talking about LoS 2 being on its way, an image from a presentation showed up, but nobody here talked about it.

(http://www.gamereactor.es/media/43/enricalvarezy_414321.jpg)

Do we know what game that's from? It clearly looks like Lords of Shadow, but I don't ever recall seeing that ingame.
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Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 04:22:27 PM
If I recall right, from the same article that got us talking about LoS 2 being on its way, an image from a presentation showed up, but nobody here talked about it.

(http://www.gamereactor.es/media/43/enricalvarezy_414321.jpg)

Do we know what game that's from? It clearly looks like Lords of Shadow, but I don't ever recall seeing that ingame.
Looks like it's from Clive Barker's Jericho. There's several images of zombies with the same mark on their foreheads when I do a google search.
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Post by: Foffy on May 21, 2012, 04:27:39 PM
Oh, okay. Thanks for clearing that up, and that explains the lack of anyone clinging to it other than myself.
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Post by: Neobelmont on May 21, 2012, 04:35:03 PM
Looks like it's from Clive Barker's Jericho. There's several images of zombies with the same mark on their foreheads when I do a google search.

Was about to say that after reading could not read all of the post it's crazy,but holy hell is it incredible, finally a lively topic  :) yet call me crazy but this was posted on cox's twitter right? Still to think that the engine might out do the los engine and that was a pretty freaking good engine.
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Post by: Foffy on May 21, 2012, 04:38:15 PM
Was about to say that after reading could not read all of the post it's crazy,but holy hell is it incredible, finally a lively topic  :) yet call me crazy but this was posted on cox's twitter right? Still to think that the engine might out do the los engine and that was a pretty freaking good engine.

Good in textures, awful in framerate. So many people on NeoGAF don't want any game from MS now because of how the framerate was in LoS1.
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Post by: Neobelmont on May 21, 2012, 04:44:27 PM
Good in textures, awful in framerate. So many people on NeoGAF don't want any game from MS now because of how the framerate was in LoS1.

True even when I downloaded the discs things onto the 360 some parts played so slow I really recall the underground caverns with those blue flames and red gremlins, but when it played at a good frame rate I was in heaven, the fight wit the sliver warrior is my best example. Never in my life have I felt such a dramatic difference in frame rate. Yes 2d game have had them like 2d shooters, but Los was wow and not in a good way maybe too ambitious for the engines own good.
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Post by: Foffy on May 21, 2012, 04:47:35 PM
What's amazing is that there are parts in the Necromancer arc that go to 60 fps. The game, on average, locks at about 24 fps, the same framerate most movies are shot in. That's nearly a triple increase! o:

I think the framerate drop is due to the detail in the game. Save for the compressed Bink Video clips, the game is sharp and stunning visually. One of the best looking games this generation.
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Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 04:47:51 PM
Honestly, the only framerate issues I've ever had in LoS were in the Necromancer's Abyss. When the horde of zombies appeared and you had to ring the gong or something, my 360 literally CHUGGED because there was so much shit on the screen at once.

Other than that, I really don't recall dealing with anything terrible when it came to the frame rate.
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Post by: Foffy on May 21, 2012, 04:49:25 PM
Honestly, the only framerate issues I've ever had in LoS were in the Necromancer's Abyss. When the horde of zombies appeared and you had to ring the gong or something, my 360 literally CHUGGED because there was so much shit on the screen at once.

Other than that, I really don't recall dealing with anything terrible when it came to the frame rate.

It's not that the framerate drops that's the issue to some, it's the fact the game is at such a low framerate to begin with.
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Post by: Neobelmont on May 21, 2012, 04:51:36 PM
Honestly, the only framerate issues I've ever had in LoS were in the Necromancer's Abyss. When the horde of zombies appeared and you had to ring the gong or something, my 360 literally CHUGGED because there was so much shit on the screen at once.

Other than that, I really don't recall dealing with anything terrible when it came to the frame rate.

I remember that part. Still for some reason that underground cavern part still sticks to me nowadays, another example of the framerate would be against the black knight that was smooth as chocolate ice cream and it's hot today dang it.
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Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 04:52:04 PM
It's not that the framerate drops that's the issue to some, it's the fact the game is at such a low framerate to begin with.
I personally never saw the issue, it looked fine to me. Sometimes I think GAF whines for the sake of whining.
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Post by: Foffy on May 21, 2012, 04:52:58 PM
I personally never saw the issue, it looked fine to me. Sometimes I think GAF whines for the sake of whining.

Same here, but some people have really good eyes for this shit.
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Post by: e105beta on May 21, 2012, 04:54:01 PM
*pant pant*

Whew...just managed to run through all of this thread.

Lots of good discussion. I'm hoping this may just be the 2.5D Castlevania I've been waiting for.
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Post by: shelverton. on May 21, 2012, 04:56:40 PM

I'm curious about the "combat being similar to LoS". Really? In a sidescroller? I mean, it's definitely possible but I kinda would prefer something less combo heavy for a 2.5D sidescroller. If that's what we're getting.
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Post by: Neobelmont on May 21, 2012, 04:57:41 PM
I'm curious about the "combat being similar to LoS". Really? In a sidescroller? I mean, it's definitely possible but I kinda would prefer something less combo heavy for a 2.5D sidescroller. If that's what we're getting.



Could be interesting like a fighter or something like the tales of series type of attacks. Not only that but what if it was like this I already bought it, with some 2d gothic scenery, good music I am already there but till I see anything I cannot say the phrase


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlefPGlUs6s# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlefPGlUs6s#)






Castlevania ''Vampire Killer'' Orchestral (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AA9MeM0niKo#)

Needed some music

[/quote]
*pant pant*


Whew...just managed to run through all of this thread.

Lots of good discussion. I'm hoping this may just be the 2.5D Castlevania I've been waiting for.

Hecka crazy right?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: crisis on May 21, 2012, 04:59:47 PM
i haven't swapped a disc since FFIX lol.. get a ps3 people!!

Quote
I'm curious about the "combat being similar to LoS". Really? In a sidescroller? I mean, it's definitely possible but I kinda would prefer something less combo heavy for a 2.5D sidescroller. If that's what we're getting.

I assume it's gonna look like or be similar those sketches of Gabriel demo-ing the combos in LoS


if there's QTE's in this game then i'm gonna raaaage
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Post by: Foffy on May 21, 2012, 05:02:17 PM
i haven't swapped a disc since FFIX lol.. get a ps3 people!!

I assume it's gonna look like or be similar those sketches of Gabriel demo-ing the combos in LoS


if there's QTE's in this game then i'm gonna raaaage

What type of QTE's? The ring stuff, or the stupid press _ on-screen prompts?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: whitedragon_nall on May 21, 2012, 05:03:13 PM
22 pages later...I  MADE IT. Here's my 2 cents.

Kinda bummed it's MS since I wasn't too thrilled with LOS, but I love 2D Castlevania. I'll keep a VERY close eye on this and hope MS delivers a great game. Can't really judge the game based on what we currently know about it.

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Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 05:03:30 PM
Same here, but some people have really good eyes for this shit.
Most of GAF are actual insiders/people who work in the industry, so from a technological/business standpoint they have a better idea of what they're talking about than we do. That's why a majority of leaks occur there.
I'm curious about the "combat being similar to LoS". Really? In a sidescroller? I mean, it's definitely possible but I kinda would prefer something less combo heavy for a 2.5D sidescroller. If that's what we're getting.
I don't understand it either, but I'm just assuming it means whoever we play as will be just as acrobatic/impressive as Gabriel was. Basically, more flashy/defensive attacks instead of just spamming something over and over again. Like in the original Castlevanias where even Skeletons were a threat opposed to how whimpy they are in the Metroidvanias, I think we'll be seeing that in the game. I don't think we'll be seeing any QTEs in this game though, QTEs do not sound like a good idea in a 2D game.

I'm expecting some massive bosses too, maybe even Titan size. The DS Castlevanias had some large sprites for enemies that were made up of several parts, think about what MS could do.
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Post by: e105beta on May 21, 2012, 05:07:11 PM
I'm curious about the "combat being similar to LoS". Really? In a sidescroller? I mean, it's definitely possible but I kinda would prefer something less combo heavy for a 2.5D sidescroller. If that's what we're getting.

I could see it being fun.

I mean, looking at the boss fights in the Metroidvanias, they're basically just button spam at a weakpoint while throwing in the occasional jump dodge. I could see throwing a few 2 - 3 hit combos into that.

Hecka crazy right?

Moving at the speed of light, I'm gonna make a supersonic man out of this thread.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: crisis on May 21, 2012, 05:08:35 PM
Quote from: Foofy
What type of QTE's? The ring stuff, or the stupid press _ on-screen prompts?

Knowing MS they'll probably create a new type of QTE we haven't seen before.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Neobelmont on May 21, 2012, 05:11:28 PM




(click to show/hide)


This is how it should be
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Post by: knightmere on May 21, 2012, 05:12:42 PM
Hopefully they will move away from QTEs. I like God of War but not with my Castlevania.  Maybe Cox will listen to some of the criticism and make good.
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Post by: Munchy on May 21, 2012, 05:13:19 PM
Knowing MS they'll probably create a new type of QTE we haven't seen before.

Gameplay will be on the bottom screen for maximum QTEage. Trace the enemies to defeat them.

(seriously MS, please no QTEs.)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Foffy on May 21, 2012, 05:14:42 PM
Knowing MS they'll probably create a new type of QTE we haven't seen before.

You quoted me as Foofy?!? ):
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Post by: Ahasverus on May 21, 2012, 05:17:21 PM
So... Hope? Guys?  :)
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Post by: Neobelmont on May 21, 2012, 05:18:08 PM
You quoted me as Foofy?!? ):

Not as bad as being called a hot dog now is it  ;)


http://thedailyeater.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/hoffy-bacon-wrapped-hot-dogs3-382x250.jpg (http://thedailyeater.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/hoffy-bacon-wrapped-hot-dogs3-382x250.jpg)
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Post by: Flame on May 21, 2012, 05:21:23 PM
anything but these
(http://th00.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2012/061/f/6/alucard_castlevania_mmd_needs_rigging_by_25animeguys-d4rhai4.png)

TBH, I didnt have a problem with Alucard's Judgement design. It was original enough but retained enough of Kojima's Alucard to make it looks similar.

I've thought about it for a while now and I believe since  Lords of Shadow's art direction and character and monster designs were clearly inspired by guillermo del toro, I think Alucard will look like Prince Nuada from Hellboy 2.
Prince Nuada - Lord Of The Drums (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFeybAxP3z0#ws)

Not a bad idea, Gabuela himself seems to look like that somewhat in the epilogue, only more... decrepit.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: shelverton. on May 21, 2012, 05:22:36 PM
If this is indeed a sidescroller, Mercury Steam can do whatever they like EXCEPT include that Prince of Persia-style platforming we saw in LoS. I can even accept QTEs, but I don't want to grab ledges and stuff.

Or do I?

Nah. I want to my traditional stair climbing back. That would be awesome! Can't believe I'm this excited over something I do each and every day at work. But I am!
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on May 21, 2012, 05:24:05 PM
I don't mind the framerate, just KEEP IT CONSTANT!  The random throttling bugged me more.

LOL grabbing ledges in 2d.  Like NES Flinstones? :3
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Munchy on May 21, 2012, 05:24:30 PM
So... Hope? Guys?  :)

Provided the other rumors are true I'm pretty hype. If it is really a Dracula's Curse retelling, I hope they don't throw Grant under the bus like a certain unnamed pachinko game.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 21, 2012, 05:25:15 PM
IN another topic, speaking of Music, given that Araujo is an Orchestral Developer I'd love to be in line with something like this:
"Castlevania" by the National Symphony Orchestra at the Filene Center (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR-G5-2Svcg#ws)
That was a suite I've never heard before, and from a musical kind of point, I think it's the BEST
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Kramgnauh on May 21, 2012, 05:27:03 PM
YEEEEEEEESSS!!! :D FINALLY!! Though, I just hope it's 2d sprites not the 3d sprites that is in the PSP of Dracula X. Not a big fan of it...
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 05:27:09 PM
I just want more things to do with the whip. I feel like they only scratched the surface with what they could do with it in LoS. Being able to swing across chasms, repel up walls, and even use it as a support to run across the surface of walls was pretty great and one of the best platforming moments of LoS. They made the whip not only your primary weapon, but also your greatest tool/asset.

Subweapons had much to be desired, I still miss my axes, boomerang crosses, and stopwatches.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on May 21, 2012, 05:28:54 PM
YEEEEEEEESSS!!! :D FINALLY!! Though, I just hope it's 2d sprites not the 3d sprites that is in the PSP of Dracula X. Not a big fan of it...

I believe it will be 3D polygonal from what the rumors say (3d sprites = misnomer, those would jsut be textures... unless you meant like Odin Sphere/Muramasa?  'cuz if it were like that I'd be ALL OVER IT).
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Neobelmont on May 21, 2012, 05:32:57 PM
I just want more things to do with the whip. I feel like they only scratched the surface with what they could do with it in LoS. Being able to swing across chasms, repel up walls, and even use it as a support to run across the surface of walls was pretty great and one of the best platforming moments of LoS. They made the whip not only your primary weapon, but also your greatest tool/asset.

Subweapons had much to be desired, I still miss my axes, boomerang crosses, and stopwatches.

This reminds me of sequelits in a way. Did he not say show little drawing of the stick doing things with just the whip I recall that.

Still I agree with ya OSM more versatility. A spear,axe,or sword can only do so much that is why I believe they should be a sidearm.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Flame on May 21, 2012, 05:37:11 PM
IN another topic, speaking of Music, given that Araujo is an Orchestral Developer I'd love to be in line with something like this:
"Castlevania" by the National Symphony Orchestra at the Filene Center (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR-G5-2Svcg#ws)
That was a suite I've never heard before, and from a musical kind of point, I think it's the BEST
that was a real nice listen to.
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Post by: e105beta on May 21, 2012, 05:38:31 PM



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This is how it should be

Yeah, battle-wise, that's kind of what I was thinking.

Music-wise, however, I'm going to have to disagree. I know it's blasphemy, but I'm kind of done with the remixes of the "classic" songs. While catchy, they were limited by the amount of sound channels the NES possessed, which ultimately resulted in that simple, catchy, ringtone style. This sound just kept getting emulated as time went on.

It also doesn't help that they're not thematic at all. The music doesn't have to be theatrical and grandiose, but IMO, it needs to fit with the darker path the series has forged for itself.

I'd definitely go with something more like this:

IN another topic, speaking of Music, given that Araujo is an Orchestral Developer I'd love to be in line with something like this:
"Castlevania" by the National Symphony Orchestra at the Filene Center (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR-G5-2Svcg#ws)
That was a suite I've never heard before, and from a musical kind of point, I think it's the BEST

Even then, I'd want them to stay out of the "happy" range. It just takes a bit of the "oomph" out of the environments when everything is so upbeat.

As far as this video goes, more 3:30, and less 1:40 and 4:10

I mean, there were a couple of great moments like that in LoS. Like the Carmilla fight:
Castlevania Lords of Shadow Carmilla Boss (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWhWXOlc524#ws)
At 9:50. Nice way to play with the NES Dracula music.
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Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 05:39:23 PM
Damn, that was amazing. The Iron Blue Intention and LoS segments gave me chills. That's the kind of music this new canon needs; melody and beat on a grander and richer scale.
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Post by: Neobelmont on May 21, 2012, 05:41:06 PM
Yeah, battle-wise, that's kind of what I was thinking.

Music-wise, however, I'm going to have to disagree. I know it's blasphemy, but I'm kind of done with the remixes of the "classic" songs. While catchy, they were limited by the amount of sound channels the NES possessed, which ultimately resulted in that simple, catchy, ringtone style. This sound just kept getting emulated as time went on.

It also doesn't help that they're not thematic at all. The music doesn't have to be theatrical and grandiose, but IMO, it needs to fit with the darker path the series has forged for itself.



Wait so something like this e105beta if not then  :'(


Deforestation - Super Castlevania IV 'Forest of Monsters' cover by Thunder Thouin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVoBQn0oYYo#)


Or

Castlevania Lords of Shadow: Gabriel's Theme (FAN-MADE!!!!!) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5OvICyNoRo#)


and this

Castlevania- The Vampire Killer (Inspired by Lords of Shadow) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8WtHXKTYdk#)
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Post by: Kingshango on May 21, 2012, 05:41:29 PM
The leaker is still leaking apparently.

 He says that the press has already had their hands on it but are under NDA till E3. There is a whole castle to explore but the area's are level based like the old games but backtracking and exploration for new powerups is always a avalible.

So the castle is the setting and the map layout is like Order of Ecclesia. I dunno guy's it's starting to sound........good.
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Post by: e105beta on May 21, 2012, 05:45:51 PM
Wait so something like this e105beta if not then  :'(


Deforestation - Super Castlevania IV 'Forest of Monsters' cover by Thunder Thouin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVoBQn0oYYo#)


Or

Castlevania Lords of Shadow: Gabriel's Theme (FAN-MADE!!!!!) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5OvICyNoRo#)


and this

Castlevania- The Vampire Killer (Inspired by Lords of Shadow) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8WtHXKTYdk#)

I liked the last two. Not so much the first one until 2:40
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Post by: Neobelmont on May 21, 2012, 05:47:04 PM
The leaker is still leaking apparently.

 He says that the press has already had their hands on it but are under NDA till E3. There is a whole castle to explore but the area's are level based like the old games but backtracking and exploration for new powerups is always a avalible.

So the castle is the setting and the map layout is like Order of Ecclesia. I dunno guy's it's starting to sound........good.


Can I say my body is ready yet?
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Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 05:49:10 PM

Can I say my body is ready yet?

eh, you know I must admit I disliked order the most out of the IGA games. Mainly because the environments were even more repetitive within each level. Sometimes just being a straight line till the end....

I also don't know how i feel about it if it's very basic ...I kinda love the metroidvania style and I'd miss it if it's gone for good....
Still excited to see a 2.5d from mercurysteam...
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Post by: Flame on May 21, 2012, 05:49:43 PM
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Even then, I'd want them to stay out of the "happy" range. It just takes a bit of the "oomph" out of the environments when everything is so upbeat.

As far as this video goes, more 3:30, and less 1:40 and 4:10

LoS' best tracks are Waterfalls of Agharta, Theme of Belmont, and the main LoS theme which was pretty epic. we need more like that. Less the battle themes which I WILL admit, sounded a bit too fantasy movie. Needs less tuba, more strings, possibly more piano or organ. organ might stretch it a bit with them, honestly, but just lessen the tuba, as I notice those seem to be the tracks that get the most "LotR" response from people.

also, IMO, Iron Blue Intention is a pretty serious theme. It sounds heroic, but still dark and serious.

You cant tell me

this
Castlevania Bloodlines Music - Iron blue intention (Stage 4) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nH9X1iRAjC0#)

sounds "happy"


Also yeah, Carmilla's boss theme was a real fun nod to the Dracula boss theme.


well, in general, the sequel needs more tracks PERIOD- as that was one fault I felt with the game from the start. I wasnt a fan of how it used it's music as atmospheric pieces and therefore reused most tracks multiple times.
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Post by: e105beta on May 21, 2012, 05:49:47 PM
eh, you know I must admit I disliked order the most out of the IGA games. Mainly because the environments were even more repetitive within each level. Sometimes just being a straight line till the end....

I also don't know how i feel about it if it's very basic ...I kinda love the metroidvania style and I'd miss it if it's gone for good....
Still excited to see a 2.5d from mercurysteam...

Portrait

of

Ruin
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Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 05:50:27 PM
The leaker is still leaking apparently.

 He says that the press has already had their hands on it but are under NDA till E3. There is a whole castle to explore but the area's are level based like the old games but backtracking and exploration for new powerups is always a avalible.

So the castle is the setting and the map layout is like Order of Ecclesia. I dunno guy's it's starting to sound........good.
That wasn't the same guy (it didn't sound like him), but damn that sounds wonderful.
You cant tell me

this
Castlevania Bloodlines Music - Iron blue intention (Stage 4) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nH9X1iRAjC0#)

sounds "happy"

God, Bloodlines OST is absolutely sublime. Utter perfection, this makes me miss Yamane a lot.
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Post by: shelverton. on May 21, 2012, 05:51:00 PM
The leaker is still leaking apparently.

 He says that the press has already had their hands on it but are under NDA till E3. There is a whole castle to explore but the area's are level based like the old games but backtracking and exploration for new powerups is always a avalible.

So the castle is the setting and the map layout is like Order of Ecclesia. I dunno guy's it's starting to sound........good.

I wouldn't mind a map similar to - wait for it - Super Mario World, where you can find different exits in the levels to unlock more routes. That would be pretty neat!
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Post by: Neobelmont on May 21, 2012, 05:51:33 PM
I liked the last two. Not so much the first one until 2:40


The first one sounds like it could be the trailer music material for the new game.

As for the other two ahh hell I just like them all

Three new replies dang it

dang let me post  >:(
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Post by: e105beta on May 21, 2012, 05:53:10 PM
LoS' best tracks are Waterfalls of Agharta, Theme of Belmont, and the main LoS theme which was pretty epic. we need more like that. Less the battle themes which I WILL admit, sounded a bit too fantasy movie. Needs less tuba, more strings, possibly more piano or organ. organ might stretch it a bit with them, honestly, but just lessen the tuba, as I notice those seem to be the tracks that get the most "LotR" response from people.

also, IMO, Iron Blue Intention is a pretty serious theme. It sounds heroic, but still dark and serious.

You cant tell me

this
Castlevania Bloodlines Music - Iron blue intention (Stage 4) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nH9X1iRAjC0#)

sounds "happy"


Also yeah, Carmilla's boss theme was a real fun nod to the Dracula boss theme.


well, in general, the sequel needs more tracks PERIOD- as that was one fault I felt with the game from the start. I wasnt a fan of how it used it's music as atmospheric pieces and therefore reused most tracks multiple times.

It's happy in the sense that there's nothing about the song that seems threatening in any way. It's not a heroic turnaround or anything, it's just "Doin' the strut and killin' shizz Genesis style".
It's too melodic. I don't want the music to fade too much into the background, but I don't want it to blow-out the mood.
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Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 05:55:48 PM
it's just "Doin' the strut and killin' shizz Genesis style".
But isn't that the best kind of music for Castlevania?
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Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 05:58:34 PM
Portrait

of

Ruin
Portrait of Ruin was better than Order to me....

This is how i rate IGA'S handheld games.....
The last three are always changing....

Symphony of the night> Aria of Sorrow> Harmony of dissonance> Dawn of Sorrow> Portrait of Ruin> Order.....
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Post by: e105beta on May 21, 2012, 05:59:04 PM
But isn't that the best kind of music for Castlevania?

It was then, but I don't necessarily believe it still is.

Games are presented differently nowadays. As opposed to the music being a catchy background beat that's fun to listen to while going through a series of game-like events, the music should assist in setting the scene, mood, and tone in addition to being catchy if the franchise so desires.

Portrait of Ruin was better than Order to me....

This is how i rate IGA'S handheld games.....
The last three are always changing....

Symphony of the night> Aria of Sorrow> Harmony of dissonance> Dawn of Sorrow> Portrait of Ruin> Order.....

I was just referencing your message of repetitive level design. Portrait takes that in spades.
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Post by: crisis on May 21, 2012, 06:02:54 PM
I wonder who the artist/character designer is going to be??




**crosses fingers for Masaki to return**
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Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 06:03:27 PM
Yeah portrait does have repetitive design but then again it didn't have stages that were literally...

Start-------------------------------->END

as much as Order did...and that turned me off big time. It doesn't matter though because I disliked both games immensely.
Aria of sorrow is soooo much better than those games, it's a shame it didn't get made on the DS, could use a bit better graphics.
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Post by: Ahasverus on May 21, 2012, 06:03:56 PM
Damn, that was amazing. The Iron Blue Intention and LoS segments gave me chills. That's the kind of music this new canon needs; melody and beat on a grander and richer scale.
I don't agre with people saying that LoS music was not "Catchy" nor Recognizable, I didn't Expect that LoS bit and I was utterly transported to that game when I heard that tiny bit. It has its charm.

And I agree with everything you said. Mr Araujo, I know it's too late because you already recorded the soundtrack for the 2nd game, but just  a heads up for the 3rd one, you an make a grandiose symphony with the old style too. And it's great.

Related to the Leaker info: Are we talking about the 3DS game? not a word about the Console version? :(
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Post by: Neobelmont on May 21, 2012, 06:04:23 PM
eh, you know I must admit I disliked order the most out of the IGA games. Mainly because the environments were even more repetitive within each level. Sometimes just being a straight line till the end....

I also don't know how i feel about it if it's very basic ...I kinda love the metroidvania style and I'd miss it if it's gone for good....
Still excited to see a 2.5d from mercurysteam...

The reason why I like this is because OOE map system is very straight to the point. And with it being more classic like I am not sure if my body is ready to withstand this mighty blow. Can I say that in order to pass on one part we would need to I do not know fight super axe armors with yellow medusa heads that can petrify you to get the next area or something. The only thing I disliked about OOE is that Shanoa did not use a whip my god for her to whip and whip it good.
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Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 06:08:32 PM
Related to the Leaker info: Are we talking about the 3DS game? not a word about the Console version? :(
Kingshango posted some rumors regarding the console sequel a few pages back.
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Post by: shelverton. on May 21, 2012, 06:09:38 PM
The only thing I disliked about OOE is that Shanoa did not use a whip my god for her to whip and whip it good.

Yeah, I always found it strange that Shanoa didn't get a whip glyph.

Cause she didn't, did she? In that case I completely missed it.
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Post by: Neobelmont on May 21, 2012, 06:11:16 PM
Yeah, I always found it strange that Shanoa didn't get a whip glyph.

Cause she didn't, did she? In that case I completely missed it.

From my memory she never got one because if she did that is all what I would of use in that game.
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Post by: e105beta on May 21, 2012, 06:14:33 PM
Yeah, I always found it strange that Shanoa didn't get a whip glyph.

Cause she didn't, did she? In that case I completely missed it.

Nope. Just swords and giant LAZUR BEEMS
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Post by: Kingshango on May 21, 2012, 06:17:31 PM
Nope. Just swords and giant LAZUR BEEMS

And hulk arms made of stone.
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Post by: Neobelmont on May 21, 2012, 06:18:25 PM
All of that crazy stuff but no whip wow   :rollseyes:
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Post by: e105beta on May 21, 2012, 06:18:55 PM
And hulk arms made of stone.

Hey, those were cool.
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Post by: shelverton. on May 21, 2012, 06:19:09 PM
It's funny when you think about it.
They created a Castlevania character that could basically use any weapon ever made with the help of glyphs. And then they completely forgot about the most iconic weapon in the Castlevania franchise. Makes me LUL a little. :D

But LASUR BEAMS are great too.
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Post by: crisis on May 21, 2012, 06:19:54 PM
What bugged me about OoE is not that there was no whip, but there was no Morris character.
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Post by: e105beta on May 21, 2012, 06:20:39 PM
It's funny when you think about it.
They created a Castlevania character that could basically use any weapon ever made with the help of glyphs. And then they completely forgot about the most iconic weapon in the Castlevania franchise. Makes me LUL a little. :D

But LASUR BEAMS are great too.

It was one of the reasons I originally came to dislike the course IGA ended up taking with the series. It was like he forgot all about the series's roots.

What bugged me about OoE is not that there was no whip, but there was no Morris character.

They didn't even need a Morris, really. They just needed some Belmont branch family running around with the VK
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Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 06:21:24 PM
It's funny when you think about it.
They created a Castlevania character that could basically use any weapon ever made with the help of glyphs. And then they completely forgot about the most iconic weapon in the Castlevania franchise. Makes me LUL a little. :D
Had to be intentional.
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Post by: Neobelmont on May 21, 2012, 06:22:04 PM
It was one of the reasons I originally came to dislike the course IGA ended up taking with the series. It was like he forgot all about the series's roots.

Something in my mind just jumped something dumb like a cox iga thing but nah it was way to stupid to type down. No reason to in fact why I am typing this down? Gah!!!!  >:(





What bugged me about OoE is not that there was no whip, but there was no Morris character.

Seems about the time one would show up right? But a no go also OOE was in the late or early 1800's?
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Post by: Ahasverus on May 21, 2012, 06:22:58 PM
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What bugged me about OoE is not that there was no whip, but there was no Morris character.
But technically there were 13 Belmonts (One of the,m the very daughter of Richter) so I think all is forgiven :P
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Post by: Maedhros on May 21, 2012, 06:25:07 PM
It was one of the reasons I originally came to dislike the course IGA ended up taking with the series. It was like he forgot all about the series's roots.

LOL, you're kidding right?
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Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 06:25:15 PM
But technically there were 13 Belmonts (One of the,m the very daughter of Richter) so I think all is forgiven :P
Whoa what? Who was the daughter of Richter? I didn't catch that.
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Post by: Neobelmont on May 21, 2012, 06:27:00 PM
But technically there were 13 Belmonts (One of the,m the very daughter of Richter) so I think all is forgiven :P

It had to be the Laura the(busty) jeweler ;)
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Post by: Ahasverus on May 21, 2012, 06:27:50 PM
Whoa what? Who was the daughter of Richter? I didn't catch that.
The Old Lady (Can't remember her name) Said at her last dialogue line that she was the daughter of a Legendary vampire hunter (and assuming Ecclesia takes palce in early 1800's it must be Richter)

Hinting perhaps at how the Belmont surname was lost to the Morris clan?
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Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 06:30:11 PM
Found her.

http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/Daniela (http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/Daniela)

That's pretty crazy, I love the lore in the old canon.
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Post by: Flame on May 21, 2012, 06:30:43 PM
Funny, when I think about it, Aria was the ONLY non Belmont metroidvania that game the character a whip weapon they could use.

Symphony didnt, Dawn didnt, and OoE didnt.

I dont know if CoD did, did it?

on a related note, there is an item in the underground caves in Symphony, around the boat/ferryman section, that gives you a shit ton of gold. lik3, 1000 or something. I could never entirely make out what it was though, but It vaguely looked like the vampire killer whip icon, the ones you get in other games to power up the whip.

was it?
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Post by: Sindra on May 21, 2012, 06:31:09 PM
Daniella? It's implied her grandfather was one of the main Belmont heroes. Possibly Richter, though that would put Ecclesia in the mid-late 1800's.
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Post by: shelverton. on May 21, 2012, 06:31:49 PM
People are gonna hate us all for filling this thread with Order of Ecclesia talk. But one more thing:

The village needed "Silence of Daylight" music. Such a wasted opportunity!
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Post by: e105beta on May 21, 2012, 06:31:55 PM
LOL, you're kidding right?

Not one bit. I know it might be baffling to some, but IGA's last few games are nothing like the Castlevanias I played when I was a kid, save for some recycled sprites and name dropping.
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Post by: Maedhros on May 21, 2012, 06:32:46 PM
Not one bit. I know it might be baffling to some, but IGA's last few games are nothing like the Castlevanias I played when I was a kid, save for some recycled sprites and name dropping.
That's funny: it sounds exactly like LoS.
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Post by: e105beta on May 21, 2012, 06:33:17 PM
That's funny: it sounds exactly like LoS.

I didn't know LoS had any recycled sprites in it.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Flame on May 21, 2012, 06:33:36 PM
People are gonna hate us all for filling this thread with Order of Ecclesia talk.


theres nothing more to talk about in regards to Mirror, till we get some info. :P
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Post by: Flame on May 21, 2012, 06:34:26 PM
I didn't know LoS had any recycled sprites in it.
well actually, if you put in the konami code, you get a little CV2 Simon Belmont sprite above your light magic bar, which mimics your actions. :D It's kinda cute.
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Post by: Ahasverus on May 21, 2012, 06:34:40 PM
That's funny: it sounds exactly like LoS.
Ehm nope? LoS is a translation of the Old Basic formula IMO
well actually, if you put in the konami code, you get a little CV2 Simon Belmont sprite above your light magic bar, which mimics your actions. :D It's kinda cute.
It bums me how almost no one tlaks about this.
I cried tears of tenderness when I saw it =3
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Post by: crisis on May 21, 2012, 06:35:05 PM
The Belmont surname couldn't have been lost, or else where would Julius come from

besides, it was Eric that said the Belmonts had to give it to the Morris' (still related) because they couldn't touch it until 1999, when Dracula would be at his strongest ever. So there should've been a Morris relative (presumably Quincy's father) making an appearance in OoE. But perhaps they were still training behind the scenes or whatever.

Albus Morris would've been a good fit.
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Post by: e105beta on May 21, 2012, 06:35:23 PM
well actually, if you put in the konami code, you get a little CV2 Simon Belmont sprite above your light magic bar, which mimics your actions. :D It's kinda cute.

I'm going to need to try that, lol
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Post by: Maedhros on May 21, 2012, 06:38:14 PM
I didn't know LoS had any recycled sprites in it.
I was talking about the name dropping, the gameplay is everything, but Castlevania. The sceneries were a lot good, though.
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Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 06:39:13 PM
well actually, if you put in the konami code, you get a little CV2 Simon Belmont sprite above your light magic bar, which mimics your actions. :D It's kinda cute.
I found that out right before I sold my copy. Isn't it actually Simon's sprite from the original Vampire Killer?
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Post by: crisis on May 21, 2012, 06:39:41 PM
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Not one bit. I know it might be baffling to some, but IGA's last few games are nothing like the Castlevanias I played when I was a kid, save for some recycled sprites and name dropping.

You mean you didn't recognize the candles dropping hearts/items everywhere? The wall meat? The medusa heads & mermen? All the references Harmony of Dissonance had to past games (there are literally dozens)? The maoi heads, "Julius Mode," etc.

And hey, the classic games recycled sprites, too.
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Post by: Neobelmont on May 21, 2012, 06:40:19 PM
That's funny: it sounds exactly like LoS.

Really? 

well actually, if you put in the konami code, you get a little CV2 Simon Belmont sprite above your light magic bar, which mimics your actions. :D It's kinda cute.

Flame do you know how to do this on the 360 or anyone I did the K-code at one point but it seems that it did not work. I do want simon on the screen.  :'(
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Post by: e105beta on May 21, 2012, 06:41:34 PM
I was talking about the name dropping, the gameplay is everything, but Castlevania. The sceneries were a lot good, though.

I'm going to politely disagree, and leave it at that.

I'd like to point out, I wasn't trying to turn this into an IGA/Cox war. I loved IGA's earlier games, up until about AoS, and I have plenty of things I would like to see improved about LoS. Both IGA and Enrique have shown they have positives and negatives, and I'm not sure why any discussion of either of them always trends towards hailing one while lambasting the other.
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Post by: Ahasverus on May 21, 2012, 06:42:49 PM
Flame do you know how to do this on the 360 or anyone I did the K-code at one point but it seems that it did not work. I do want simon on the screen.  :'(
I know how! just put it after the "Press start" prompt appears in a pre-stage loading screen :)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Neobelmont on May 21, 2012, 06:44:05 PM
I know how! just put it after the "Press start" prompt appears in a pre-stage loading screen :)

No way it cannot be that easy right? I will try it one day ty.

I'm going to politely disagree, and leave it at that.

I'd like to point out, I wasn't trying to turn this into an IGA/Cox war. I loved IGA's earlier games, up until about AoS, and I have plenty of things I would like to see improved about LoS. Both IGA and Enrique have shown they have positives and negatives, and I'm not sure why any discussion of either of them always trends towards hailing one while lambasting the other.

No peace it seems.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: e105beta on May 21, 2012, 06:45:58 PM
You mean you didn't recognize the candles dropping hearts/items everywhere? The wall meat? The medusa heads & mermen? All the references Harmony of Dissonance had to past games (there are literally dozens)? The maoi heads, "Julius Mode," etc.

And hey, the classic games recycled sprites, too.

Note my last post.

Also, I like Harmony
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: crisis on May 21, 2012, 06:48:18 PM
Those are just some classic CV elements that you might have overlooked. no argument bro  ;)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Pemburu Vampir on May 21, 2012, 06:51:21 PM
Wow, this thread goes to 28 pages in one night! And there's no real info about this game except that it's gonna be made for the 3DS with "Mirror of Faith" as the title.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 21, 2012, 06:53:55 PM
Wow, this thread goes to 28 pages in one night! And there's no real info about this game except that it's gonna be made for the 3DS with "Mirror of Faith" as the title.
*Fate  :P
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: crisis on May 21, 2012, 06:54:29 PM
well, that's what happens when Konami ignored the 25th Anniversary of our beloved series


all is NOT forgiven. not yet.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: VladCT on May 21, 2012, 06:54:39 PM
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Wow, this thread goes to 28 pages in one night! And there's no real info about this game except that it's gonna be made for the 3DS with "Mirror of Faith" as the title.
Tell me about it... Dafuq am I supposed to keep up with you guys? :-/
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Pemburu Vampir on May 21, 2012, 07:03:30 PM
*Fate  :P

Oh, right. It was "Mirror of Faith" last night... And now it is "Mirror of Fate"!
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 21, 2012, 07:03:46 PM
Tell me about it... Dafuq am I supposed to keep up with you guys? :-/
Ok, an insider leaked the information that 2 new Castlevanias are being in development. One of them, a console sequel running in a new better engine with open world elements and better perfomance, and a 3DS game called Mirror of Fate, starring Alucard and/or Trevor Belmont serving as the sequel to the original Lords and a prequel to the main console sequel, set some hundred of years after Gabriel's transformation (With him being the main guy). It's supposed to be a 2D/2.5D/3D (don't have idea) game confirmed to be produced by Dave Cox and written/directed by Enric Alvarez. We don't know if Mercury is developing it though.

And.. that's it ! A Domain registration let the cat out of the bag recently too so it's anything but confirmed.

Oh, right. It was "Mirror of Faith" last night... And now it is "Mirror of Fate"!
Domain registration
http://whois.domaintools.com/castlevania-mirroroffate.com (http://whois.domaintools.com/castlevania-mirroroffate.com)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 07:06:27 PM
I forget who said this but Rayman Origins doesn't look bad on the 3ds...In fact all the graphical effects and such seem to be in place... ( just downloaded the demo)...

I think the thing you think looks bad is the screen resolution, unfortunately the screen doesn't have that great of a resolution so it looks quite blurry, and the sound effects I admit are atrocious....As far as the graphical powers though it looks fine to me.

I can only imagine what the castlevania is gonna look like on this, wowzers...
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Maedhros on May 21, 2012, 07:13:44 PM
Someone needs to update the OP with the infos/rumors they release, to be easier to find the info, guys.

I forget who said this but Rayman Origins doesn't look bad on the 3ds...In fact all the graphical effects and such seem to be in place... ( just downloaded the demo)...

I think the thing you think looks bad is the screen resolution, unfortunately the screen doesn't have that great of a resolution so it looks quite blurry, and the sound effects I admit are atrocious....As far as the graphical powers though it looks fine to me.

I can only imagine what the castlevania is gonna look like on this, wowzers...
Yup, it's a blurry mess, the graphics were simplified. The sound is attrocious, the game runs at 30FPS, the gameplay is worse than the consoles/PC/vita version. It's completely shit. I'm not the only one with this oppinion, go look on Neogaf the reception.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 21, 2012, 07:21:44 PM
Neogaf is not quite the forum of God once you're in. They are.. too whiny. IDK.

Man this wait is going to KILL US, the good part is that Konami will make a Pre-E3 conference so we won't have to wait 'til June (And wow, finally a GOOD decision by Konami's part, no one will pay attention to their games once the first frame of GTAV is being shown at Los Angeles)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ring_of_Varda on May 21, 2012, 07:22:12 PM
-whew...took me a while to catch up-

i gotta say when the dust settles and if this is an actual title i may wind up picking up a 3ds for it. I am unsure if it is just general starvation in the CV department but color me excited none the less! What is it like 2 weeks til E3?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 07:23:14 PM
The graphics aren't really that simplified they look the same to me. The framerate/blurry/sound are legit complaints. That's stuff we just have to live with with such a low resolution screen and a handheld system.

It is a bit concerning for sure, but Rayman was made for those big HD consoles, this castlevania game is being specifically made for 3DS so it will prolly run better.

seriously though what is up with the sound on this thing?....Revelations had poor sound quality too....Does the 3ds have a bad sound specs?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Foffy on May 21, 2012, 07:26:16 PM
There's another new report surfacing about. Take this with a questionable whip, though.

As some of you may have seen Castlevania: Mirrors of Faith(3DS) got leaked earlier today, this news coincides with it. Castlevania: Mirrors of Faith will be shown with a Castlevania Lords of Shadows Sequel which is hinted for a PS3, Xbox 360, Vita, and Wii-U release. The Wii-U and 3DS Castlevania Titles are said to be Cross Compatible according to our source, which makes us ponder about the Cross Compatibly for Vita and PS3.The 3DS Version of Castlevania: Mirrors of Faith, will also feature Co-op play and will be a 2-D sidescrolling game.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Kingshango on May 21, 2012, 07:27:06 PM
Dang it Foffy beat me to it, I was just gonna post that.  >:(
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 21, 2012, 07:27:55 PM
There's another new report surfacing about. Take this with a questionable whip, though.

As some of you may have seen Castlevania: Mirrors of Faith(3DS) got leaked earlier today, this news coincides with it. Castlevania: Mirrors of Faith will be shown with a Castlevania Lords of Shadows Sequel which is hinted for a PS3, Xbox 360, Vita, and Wii-U release. The Wii-U and 3DS Castlevania Titles are said to be Cross Compatible according to our source, which makes us ponder about the Cross Compatibly for Vita and PS3.The 3DS Version of Castlevania: Mirrors of Faith, will also feature Co-op play and will be a 2-D sidescrolling game.
So Mirror of Fate is the name of Both games. Good!

Co-op has me intrigued.
The Lords sequel in ALL platfforms will be DA BOMB for Konami if they can pull it off (As a WiiU launch title it could gain MILLIONS of fans)

God, these are crazy times
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Foffy on May 21, 2012, 07:28:46 PM
At least you got my name right. We can share it.

And Ahasverus, it's not implying they're the same name. It's implying they're both going to be revealed at once, the way Castlevania games tend to usually be revealed.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 07:29:09 PM
VITA!?!??!
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 21, 2012, 07:29:34 PM
At least you got my name right. We can share it.

And Ahasverus, it's not implying they're the same name. It's implying they're both going to be revealed at once, the way Castlevania games tend to usually be revealed.
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The 3DS Version of Castlevania: Mirrors of Faith, will also feature Co-op play
What is the other version? O.o
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Vrakanox on May 21, 2012, 07:30:00 PM
OMG Finally. Please don't fuck up Alucard Mercury Steam!
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Foffy on May 21, 2012, 07:32:13 PM
What is the other version? O.o

You said Mirror of Fate is the name of both games. All of the reports keep calling the other game a Lords of Shadow sequel, so perhaps that name hasn't been revealed yet.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 07:33:10 PM
I mean I think we can all admit this castlevania will be more to our liking as it will actually have a dracula this time and it's cool that we actually know who dracula is because of the first game......

Anyways, where's the source for this.... ?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 21, 2012, 07:36:06 PM
You said Mirror of Fate is the name of both games. All of the reports keep calling the other game a Lords of Shadow sequel, so perhaps that name hasn't been revealed yet.
Ok I get it  :)

Yeah source please! (not that it matters, I'm batshit excited right now, reminds me of the Ecclesia leaks time  ;D )
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: e105beta on May 21, 2012, 07:37:28 PM
You said Mirror of Fate is the name of both games. All of the reports keep calling the other game a Lords of Shadow sequel, so perhaps that name hasn't been revealed yet.

So its:

Wii U: Mirror of Fate
3DS: Mirror of Fate
PS3: LoS2
360: LoS2

And the two Mirror of Fates are joined in some way while the others are ports of the LoS sequel?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Foffy on May 21, 2012, 07:37:57 PM
Ok I get it  :)

Yeah source please! (not that it matters, I'm batshit excited right now, reminds me of the Ecclesia leaks time  ;D )

It's from the NeoGAF thread.

http://www.dualpixels.com/profiles/blogs/rumor-more-castlevania-games-getting-revealed-at-e3 (http://www.dualpixels.com/profiles/blogs/rumor-more-castlevania-games-getting-revealed-at-e3)


So its:

Wii U: Mirror of Fate
3DS: Mirror of Fate
PS3: LoS2
360: LoS2

And the two Mirror of Fates are joined in some way while the others are ports of the LoS sequel?

No, if it's true, it looks like this.

3DS: Mirror of Fate
PS3/360: Lords of Shadow 2
Wii U: Lords of Shadow 2 with Mirror of Fate connectivity

Think Order of Ecclesia + Judgment.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 21, 2012, 07:40:18 PM
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMGOMG OMG OMGOMG OMG OMGOMG OMG OMG

The page is DOWN

So.. it's CONFIRMED
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 07:40:28 PM
So its:

Wii U: Mirror of Fate
3DS: Mirror of Fate
PS3: LoS2
360: LoS2

And the two Mirror of Fates are joined in some way while the others are ports of the LoS sequel?

VITA: LoS2
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Foffy on May 21, 2012, 07:41:51 PM
VITA: LoS2

I didn't mention LoS2 in Vita because they too might try some cross-function idea. I think they might try something.

And the page is still up for me.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 07:42:34 PM
It's down for me.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Rodriguezjr on May 21, 2012, 07:43:44 PM
Well, can't really say I'm looking forward to this. Well, let's see how they make Alucard into a Belmont.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: e105beta on May 21, 2012, 07:44:08 PM
It's from the NeoGAF thread.

http://www.dualpixels.com/profiles/blogs/rumor-more-castlevania-games-getting-revealed-at-e3 (http://www.dualpixels.com/profiles/blogs/rumor-more-castlevania-games-getting-revealed-at-e3)


No, if it's true, it looks like this.

3DS: Mirror of Fate
PS3/360: Lords of Shadow 2
Wii U: Lords of Shadow 2 with Mirror of Fate connectivity

Think Order of Ecclesia + Judgment.

Looks like that's one more reason for me to get a Wii U.

Wii, you're going to be a glorified Gamecube in no time.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 07:45:27 PM
why do you peeps keep leaving out the vita version?..

You are freaking me out everytime you do that... It was in the info too!
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Foffy on May 21, 2012, 07:46:19 PM
It's down for me.

Are you trying quoted links on GAF? Those are always abridged with dots in em. The regular post and what I posted have regular links.

If those don't work, I dunno...
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: e105beta on May 21, 2012, 07:46:44 PM
why do you peeps keep leaving out the vita version?..

You are freaking me out everytime you do that... It was in the info too!

I'm guessing it's because the Vita's not exactly a popular system right now.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Kingshango on May 21, 2012, 07:47:04 PM
Well this just got interesting.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 07:48:06 PM
Holy fuck.

That is a HUGE leak.

Mercury Steam and Konami now have A TON to live up to, they may have definitely redeemed themselves for missing the anniversary.

EDIT: WIIU!! YES!! :D
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 07:48:47 PM
Well an across all platforms release scenario would be konami going out with a bang pre-e3. They did announce they will be doing a pre-e3 event.. They even said they had some big announcements. What's bigger than ...hey our next huge castlevania is coming out for everything?...ENJOY YOUR E3!
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: crisis on May 21, 2012, 07:49:25 PM
The 3DS wasn't very popular when it first debuted, either

re: huge price drop
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 07:51:14 PM
I'm guessing it's because the Vita's not exactly a popular system right now.

Well let me fix that

Castlevania Mirror of fate: 3DS
LoS2: PS3/XBOX360/VITA
LOS2 with mirror connectivity: WII U....

fixed
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 07:52:01 PM
That site is still calling the game Mirror of Faith. I trust Mirror of Fate more.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Kingshango on May 21, 2012, 07:52:25 PM
Holy fuck.

That is a HUGE leak.

Mercury Steam and Konami now have A TON to live up to, they may have definitely redeemed themselves for missing the anniversary.

EDIT: WIIU!! YES!! Now I don't have to buy anymore shit for my 360! :D

And to think Cox tried his best to keep this a secret, im actually surprised this wasn't leaked sooner. But the Wii U thing is brand new to me, I might have to get that version along with the 3DS game.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Foffy on May 21, 2012, 07:53:12 PM
That site is still calling the game Mirror of Faith. I trust Mirror of Fate more.

Remember the original reveal called it Faith. It took a followup report to mention Konami's nudge at getting the title name wrong.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: e105beta on May 21, 2012, 07:53:36 PM
The 3DS wasn't very popular when it first debuted, either

re: huge price drop

And?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 07:54:53 PM
Sony handhelds have never sold well. Castlevania at the very least stands a chance of sales on Nintendo platforms. The sequel to LoS is coming to Vita, anyway.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: crisis on May 21, 2012, 07:55:40 PM
You said the Vita isn't a popular system, neither is the 3DS according to Nintendo
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: e105beta on May 21, 2012, 07:57:13 PM
You said the Vita isn't a popular system, neither is the 3DS according to Nintendo

The 3DS outsold any other Nintendo handheld in its first year.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 07:57:46 PM
Sony handhelds have never sold well. Castlevania at the very least stands a chance of sales on Nintendo platforms. The sequel to LoS is coming to Vita, anyway.
Which is great. I don't have a vita but my brother does and the system is so beautiful, that screen deserves a castlevania on it.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 07:57:54 PM
You said the Vita isn't a popular system, neither is the 3DS according to Nintendo
That's not true at all.

Vita hasn't even hit it's 2 million sales mark yet, the 3DS is quickly approaching about 20 mil. now. Maybe more.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 07:58:31 PM
The 3DS outsold any other Nintendo handheld in its first year.

The point is when it started off it had horrible sales, it took a big price cut and mario to finally come out for it to start succeeding.

Vita is waiting for good system seller games and it's price drop to start picking up steam.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 07:59:58 PM
The point is when it started off it had horrible sales, it took a big price cut and mario to finally come out for it to start succeeding.
A lot of games were canned too because of the 3DS's rough start. I don't regret my purchase anymore though.

This is starting to turn into console wars.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: crisis on May 21, 2012, 08:00:05 PM
Quote from: e105beta
The 3DS outsold any other Nintendo handheld in its first year.

And?

Quote from: OSM
Vita hasn't even hit it's 2 million sales mark yet, the 3DS is quickly approaching about 20 mil. now. Maybe more.

well the Vita was released not too long ago, so give it time to catch up

edit: i'm just saying that 3DS had a rough start, too. they're both incredible pieces of technology
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: e105beta on May 21, 2012, 08:00:38 PM
The point is when it started off it had horrible sales, it took a big price cut and mario to finally come out for it to start succeeding.

Alright, I understand this.

I'm not quite sure what in means in reference to my original statement that the Vita isn't a popular system right now, and thus why people keep forgetting about it.

If you want to expand on that, the other reason the 3DS is probably getting mentioned more than the Vita is that this is a Castlevania forum and save for Dracula X Chronicles, Castlevania has been living on the DS.

And?

It means that statement was false?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: e105beta on May 21, 2012, 08:01:23 PM
Double post
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 08:02:31 PM
No sense in arguing about consoles, if this rumor is true we ALL get new castlevania games.

it's a joyous time for all........Rumors of alucard and trevor belmont are icing on the damn cake....
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: crisis on May 21, 2012, 08:03:44 PM
Quote from: e105beta
It means that statement was false?

Quote
i'm just saying that 3DS had a rough start, too. they're both incredible pieces of technology
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: e105beta on May 21, 2012, 08:07:40 PM
Again, I never said it didn't.

Don't really understand why this conversation went in this direction.

EDIT: Looks like I've ruffled some feathers. My respect has dropped like 5 points since entering this thread.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 08:10:01 PM
If Castlevania is really coming to WiiU, wow. Man, I wonder what new approach they'll take with it. They have to be doing something with that screen in the middle of the controller.

Man it's actually been YEARS since a proper Castlevania game came out on a major Nintendo platform.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: whitedragon_nall on May 21, 2012, 08:10:46 PM
This thread is all over the place. Iga vs. Cox, MoF speculation, Ecclesia discussion, and now console wars. I wonder what's next.

On topic. I hope there's a chance that somebody who worked on previous Castlevania games, other than Cox, will have some involvement in this.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: e105beta on May 21, 2012, 08:11:30 PM
If Castlevania is really coming to WiiU, wow. Man, I wonder what new approach they'll take with it. They have to be doing something with that screen in the middle of the controller.

If it's a port of LoS2, I imagine it'll be an alternate way to display content that's in the PS3/360 versions.

Maybe it'll be used for the 3DS connectivity stuff.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: crisis on May 21, 2012, 08:11:58 PM
just like how we were talking about OoE's story, we're just passing time till the rumors come true, no harm in that.

the 3DS may have outsold previous Nintendo handhelds it's first year, but apparently they still think it underperformed or else they wouldn't have dropped the price so drastically & so fast. perhaps Sony should consider a similar tactic with the Vita, I dunno
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: beingthehero on May 21, 2012, 08:12:07 PM
I wonder if Shanoa will make a cameo in some form or another.

We can dream.  :P

Or Devil Forgemaster Issac. D:
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 08:13:42 PM
I wonder if Shanoa will make a cameo in some form or another.

We can dream.  :P
Shanoa would be awesome.

What has me more excited is that the sequel supposedly stars Simon friggin' Belmont!
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: beingthehero on May 21, 2012, 08:16:39 PM
Simon, in his full CV1 regalia, hammering the crap out of ET SUNT DRACUL could possibly be too glorious to contain on a PS3/360 disk.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: e105beta on May 21, 2012, 08:17:41 PM
just like how we were talking about OoE's story, we're just passing time till the rumors come true, no harm in that.

the 3DS may have outsold previous Nintendo handhelds it's first year, but apparently they still think it underperformed or else they wouldn't have dropped the price so drastically & so fast. perhaps Sony should consider a similar tactic with the Vita, I dunno

I'd wager it was a misunderstanding of the mobile market. Until now, they've been able to sell all of their consoles at a profit, which proved to be extremely profitable with the Wii. However, now that smartphones have such a large portion of the mobile gaming market, handhelds have to distance themselves by being higher performance (read: more expensive).

So with arguably cheaper technology available in order to get one's mobile gaming jollies off, handhelds have joined home consoles in the "lose money on hardware, earn it back on software" strategy.

Thus, with the Vita, which is already losing plenty of money with each system, a pricecut can be extremely risky, as opposed to the 3DS which was getting cut from already being profitable.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 08:18:09 PM
Simon, in his full CV1 regalia, hammering the crap out of ET SUNT DRACUL could possibly be too glorious to contain on a PS3/360 disk.
It would be awesome if they go for a look close to his CV1 design instead of the LoS prototype.

I'm starting to get in over my head now with excitement, damn.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: e105beta on May 21, 2012, 08:21:21 PM
It would be awesome if they go for a look close to his CV1 design instead of the LoS prototype.

I'm starting to get in over my head now with excitement, damn.

Agreed, seeing as his LoS prototype was used for Gabriel
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: crisis on May 21, 2012, 08:22:26 PM
there's still nothing to get too excited over Oswald

no screenshots no logo just WORDS

and a wolf
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 08:23:48 PM
there's still nothing to get too excited over Oswald
Why do you keep calling me that.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 21, 2012, 08:24:07 PM
Shanoa would be awesome.

What has me more excited is that the sequel supposedly stars Simon friggin' Belmont!
Isn't it Trevor?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 08:26:07 PM
Isn't it Trevor?
Trevor is supposedly in Mirror of Fate.

I wonder if they'll make a special edition model of the 3DS for Castlevania.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 21, 2012, 08:29:29 PM
Trevor is supposedly in Mirror of Fate.
OH NOES

I want Trevor in HD damnit!  :'(

Simon still rocks though

In other topics: Do you think Mercury could get more experimental with storytelling? I hope they abandon their Level/Cutscene/level/cutscene style and make it more dynamic a la Arkham games or The Witcher (Multiple playable characters from different perspectives could be neat )
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Flame on May 21, 2012, 08:32:20 PM
Wait, so is Ps3/360 still getting anything here? I dont wanna have to buy new consoles for this... :C

Is it going to be ps3/360 AND WiiU for the same game, ports? or different games..? what?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: crisis on May 21, 2012, 08:33:32 PM
I hope we see more original Belmonts native to this timeline too rather than mirror versions
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 08:34:19 PM
Wait, so is Ps3/360 still getting anything here? I dont wanna have to buy new consoles for this... :C
Lords 2 is coming to all the major consoles, WiiU included.
I hope we see more original Belmonts native to this timeline too rather than mirror versions
Likewise, but Simon sounds too amazing to pass up.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Kingshango on May 21, 2012, 08:35:27 PM
Wait, so is Ps3/360 still getting anything here? I dont wanna have to buy new consoles for this... :C

PS3, 360 and presumably the Wii U will get the console sequel.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: crisis on May 21, 2012, 08:37:00 PM
Wii U was already a definate purchase for me, since, y'know, Smash Bros.. Metroid DreadZelda..
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Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 08:38:00 PM
Wait a second.

The rumors say Co-Op is involved. Didn't David post a picture of two actors in LED lights doing pushups?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Foffy on May 21, 2012, 08:39:09 PM
Wait a second.

The rumors say Co-Op is involved. Didn't David post a screenshot of two guys in LED lights doing pushups?

They could be exercising onset, gearing up for fancy acrobatic moves. But yeah, with the rumors of characters and this report, it seems like it will indeed have multiple characters.
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Post by: Kingshango on May 21, 2012, 08:44:31 PM
So going off of what we know, who do you think will be the two protagonist for the 3DS game?

Trevor and Alucard?

Or Trevor and Simon?
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Post by: Ahasverus on May 21, 2012, 08:46:44 PM
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Trevor and Alucard?
This. And a cameo of Sypha and Grant.

IDK, but these times spark a certain flame inside of me. Man, I missed this.
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Post by: Foffy on May 21, 2012, 08:47:06 PM
I would hope Alucard and Trevor. I hope if Simon is in the game, he's a child or something. It is uncanny to wrap my head on the reboot with Trevor and Simon being so close together.
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Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 08:47:20 PM
So going off of what we know, who do you think will be the two protagonist for the 3DS game?
Trevor and Alucard.

I'm only assuming Simon will be the protag in the console game, unless it takes place in modern times there's no way Simon will be there since he's supposedly Trevor's son.

I wonder if Sypha will show up, can't make a baby with one person.
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Post by: whitedragon_nall on May 21, 2012, 08:47:36 PM
So going off of what we know, who do you think will be the two protagonist for the 3DS game?

Trevor and Alucard?

Or Trevor and Simon?

Personally, I'd like Trevor and Alucard. Even better if they throw Sypha and Grant in there too.
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Post by: crisis on May 21, 2012, 08:52:01 PM
Why are they(we?) skipping Christopher & going straight to Simon? Am I the only one realizing this?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 08:52:48 PM
Why are they(we?) skipping Christopher & going straight to Simon? Am I the only one realizing this?
Christopher isn't that well known.

I'm wondering who the Belmont will be when they eventually hit 1999 in the timeline, or whenever the prologue took place.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Foffy on May 21, 2012, 08:53:34 PM
Why are they(we?) skipping Christopher & going straight to Simon? Am I the only one realizing this?

Because the portable games exist in a double non-canon universe now, silly goose.
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Post by: flyingchai on May 21, 2012, 08:55:20 PM
First off, thanks OSM for the PM, I appreciate you taking the time.  ;)

Second, if all this business about Trevor & Alucard being in Mirror of Fate and then Simon being in the console sequel, this may be the most epic time for the whole franchise; fiinally, a completely fresh re-imagining of the series starting from the beginning of Dracula.

And since it could very well be going back to the roots of the series that we all love so much, maybe it'll finally get the incessant post LoS whiners & haters to shut the fuck up and quit bitching at each other achieve SOME harmony to offset our current dissonance.
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Post by: C Belmont on May 21, 2012, 08:56:04 PM
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it's a joyous time for all
not everyone is ready to celebrate just yet

Cox and Enric can throw around names like Trevor and Simon all they want but neither characters were ever vampires or half vampires so I'll be waiting to see exactly what plans they have for the Belmont family before I start getting excited over a new Castlevania game created by them.

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Post by: crisis on May 21, 2012, 08:58:01 PM
b-but Christopher has just had his own game just a couple years ago

and then there's The Adventure being released for the e-shop lol
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Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 08:59:06 PM
Cox and Enric can throw around names like Trevor and Simon all they want but neither characters were ever vampires or half vampires
Jeez, I really hope this isn't the direction they take for the Belmont clan. Being half vampires just sounds so dumb, why have a bunch of half vampires when you already possibly have Alucard. The idea was silly in Legends, and it's still silly now.
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Post by: Ahasverus on May 21, 2012, 09:00:01 PM
b-but Christopher has just had his own game just a couple years ago

and then there's The Adventure being released for the e-shop lol
Yeah I'm kinda bummed about Christopher too, but trimming fat and all that...

My ideal Cv timeline would be

Beginning
Cv III
Cv 1 and 2 in the same game
Rondo
Symphony
the sequel about the dissapearence of the Belmonts
The Bram Stoker's Dracula game
Bloodlines
An indermediate game
The 1999/final battle game
The end.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: flyingchai on May 21, 2012, 09:04:54 PM
As far as Belmonts go, Trevor, Simon, & Richter are probably the three that would come to mind when anyone mention's the name "Belmont." Given that Mercury Steam will probably not make as many entries in the new timeline, throwing "Belmont's Revenge" probabl wasn't viable enough.

Who knows though, maybe a couple years down the line after these games are done if all goes well, we'll get our Symphony of the Night reboot and finally get to a modern one that'll tackle the epilogue.
These next 2 sound like Dracula's Curse & Castlevania 1 remixed...

Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: crisis on May 21, 2012, 09:05:32 PM
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Cox and Enric can throw around names like Trevor and Simon all they want but neither characters were ever vampires or half vampires so I'll be waiting to see exactly what plans they have for the Belmont family before I start getting excited over a new Castlevania game created by them.

Agreed, for all we know the story could be entirely different & Alucard could end up looking like Olrox (remember how vampires in this timeline look before becoming "full-fledged vampires")


a lot of people are going to be saying "WTF!" when they see this/these game(s), just as many will be saying "WOW!"

A storm's coming...
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Post by: uzo on May 21, 2012, 09:06:11 PM
Remember when you used to see lots of tv commercials for all sorts of different games, back in the day? What happened to those days? All I see now are ads for World of Warcraft and Modern Warfare.

A bygone era. We just need to keep them alive in our hearts.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Kingshango on May 21, 2012, 09:10:33 PM
Agreed, for all we know the story could be entirely different & Alucard could end up looking like Olrox (remember how vampires in this timeline look before becoming "full-fledged vampires")


a lot of people are going to be saying "WTF!" when they see this/these game(s), just as many will be saying "WOW!"

A storm's coming...

Cox know cotdamn well how popular Alucard is to Castlevania fans and it would take seriously gigantic balls for Mercurysteam to fuck him up design wise.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 09:10:56 PM
a lot of people are going to be saying "WTF!" when they see this/these game(s), just as many will be saying "WOW!"

A storm's coming...
I'm trying pretty hard to keep my expectations in check, but it's not working. All of these leaks are not helping at all.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: DragonSlayr81 on May 21, 2012, 09:14:49 PM
The leaker is still leaking apparently.

 He says that the press has already had their hands on it but are under NDA till E3. There is a whole castle to explore but the area's are level based like the old games but backtracking and exploration for new powerups is always a avalible.

So the castle is the setting and the map layout is like Order of Ecclesia. I dunno guy's it's starting to sound........good.
LOL, stage-based areas, but freedom of backtracking. Isn't that like my proposed idea for a classicvania/castletroid hybrid I pitched a bit ago? Great minds think alike! ;)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 09:17:02 PM
Cox know cotdamn well how popular Alucard is to Castlevania fans and it would take seriously gigantic balls for Mercurysteam to fuck him up design wise.
if that wolf in the poster is indeed Alucard, I have high hopes for him in the new canon already. The wolf is a big throw back to SotN. Heck, Laura had Alucard's mist form in the DLC.
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Post by: e105beta on May 21, 2012, 09:27:50 PM
if that wolf in the poster is indeed Alucard, I have high hopes for him in the new canon already. The wolf is a big throw back to SotN. Heck, Laura had Alucard's mist form in the DLC.

I could see some REALLY cool co-op opportunities with Trevor and Alucard.

REALLY cool.
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Post by: Neobelmont on May 21, 2012, 09:33:16 PM
I wonder if Shanoa will make a cameo in some form or another.

We can dream.  :P

Or Devil Forgemaster Issac. D:

A strange thought just occurred to me. Fanfiction in an alternate universe time.

Simon is the main protagonist for a future Los cv game and Shanoa is his patner/lover that at the end  fight dracula and have belmont babies and stuff. And the game will have on/off line co-op and and Whew...I am done anything can happen right?
 ;) I do not know SimonxShanoa Or SS sounds good for me in a new time line. Something hella new I hope.
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Post by: DragonSlayr81 on May 21, 2012, 10:04:02 PM
Damn, all this news/rumors got me giddy. If it's all true(Simon, Trevor, Alucard, two CV games, WiiU=3DS connectivity), it would DEFINITELY make up for the sucky ass anniversary. And the thoughts of a console CV on an Nintendo system.... that always gets me giddy. I know imagine if one of the characters from the LoS sequel appears in Smash Bros(new Simon would be cool), seeing him fighting Mario, Pit, Samus... DAMN, that's heyday NES wars, baby! Just need Capcom to toss in Megaman for good measure(and you'd be the Captain N squad, minus Captain N)! It's just kinda a good feeling of nostagial and anticipation. I'd get the same feeling if Square announced they were going to release a traditional FF game for WiiU. It would be like homecoming. Sentimental stuff. ;D
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Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on May 21, 2012, 10:08:26 PM
Tuba?  Sure you don't mean those heroic French Horns and brasses?  Though I suppose bombastic brasses do include a tuba in there...
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Post by: Ahasverus on May 21, 2012, 10:10:03 PM
Tuba?  Sure you don't mean those heroic French Horns and brasses?  Though I suppose bombastic brasses do include a tuba in there...
There is a prominent tuba in final confrontation (and it's awesome!... though I'm biased, I'm tubist  ;D )
And just sayin' jorge but.. you are like 20 pages late? Hahahaha What a mega thread
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Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 10:15:43 PM
Quite a crazy day, I can't believe all of the stuff we've learned today.

These next two weeks are going to be very long.
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Post by: CastleDan on May 21, 2012, 10:19:29 PM
I hope the Vita rumor is true....that's all i gotta say...
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Post by: Kingshango on May 21, 2012, 10:22:10 PM
Quite a crazy day, I can't believe all of the stuff we've learned today.

These next two weeks are going to be very long.

Shit the way things are going we might get a screenshot this week, if not next week.
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Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 10:30:46 PM
Shit the way things are going we might get a screenshot this week, if not next week.
I hope so.
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Post by: Ahasverus on May 21, 2012, 10:34:19 PM
Shit the way things are going we might get a screenshot this week, if not next week.
Why not TODAY?

(I'm freaked)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Gecko on May 21, 2012, 10:40:29 PM
Woah. That was a lot of drama and speculation.  :o
I wanted to catch up on the news before going to bed and stayed up an extra 45 minutes skimming through.

I'm really hoping some of these rumors are true. Sounds like a kickass Castlevania to me. We'll just have to wait until the official word is out though to learn what was real and what wasn't. These pre-announcement times have always been my favorites on these boards.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Kingshango on May 21, 2012, 10:45:42 PM
I just realised something, how big is Mercurysteam currently? I can't believe they could be big enough of a team to not only make two Castlevania's, but on various systems, including a unreleased console and two portables.

Last I remembered they were a team of 48 people working on Lords of Shadow.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 21, 2012, 10:48:50 PM
I just realised something, how big is Mercurysteam currently? I can't believe they could be big enough of a team to not only make two Castlevania's, but on various systems, including a unreleased console and two portables.

Last I remembered they were a team of 48 people working on Lords of Shadow.
Alvarez recently said they were around 105
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Post by: Pemburu Vampir on May 21, 2012, 10:50:01 PM
Could someone put up the link to the source of all this?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 21, 2012, 10:50:58 PM
Could someone put up the link to the source of all this?
There's no source :P
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Post by: Kingshango on May 21, 2012, 10:55:21 PM
Alvarez recently said they were around 105

Ahh I see.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Pemburu Vampir on May 21, 2012, 10:57:12 PM
There's no source :P

What? I heard about someone leaking all of this news or rumors.
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Post by: Neobelmont on May 21, 2012, 10:57:41 PM
I just realised something, how big is Mercurysteam currently? I can't believe they could be big enough of a team to not only make two Castlevania's, but on various systems, including a unreleased console and two portables.

Last I remembered they were a team of 48 people working on Lords of Shadow.

This is the picture of MS in the past when working on LoS the whole team

http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/images/9/2009/06/mercury.jpg (http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/images/9/2009/06/mercury.jpg)

So it is very possible that the team grew.

Edit kind of hard to put this when 5 new messages are put on the board.

Meanwhile I cannot hold it in any more

My Body is Ready (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa-pU_VoeFg#)
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Post by: Munchy on May 21, 2012, 10:59:23 PM
Yeah, battle-wise, that's kind of what I was thinking.

Music-wise, however, I'm going to have to disagree. I know it's blasphemy, but I'm kind of done with the remixes of the "classic" songs. While catchy, they were limited by the amount of sound channels the NES possessed, which ultimately resulted in that simple, catchy, ringtone style. This sound just kept getting emulated as time went on.

It also doesn't help that they're not thematic at all. The music doesn't have to be theatrical and grandiose, but IMO, it needs to fit with the darker path the series has forged for itself.

I'd definitely go with something more like this:

Even then, I'd want them to stay out of the "happy" range. It just takes a bit of the "oomph" out of the environments when everything is so upbeat.

As far as this video goes, more 3:30, and less 1:40 and 4:10

I mean, there were a couple of great moments like that in LoS. Like the Carmilla fight:
Castlevania Lords of Shadow Carmilla Boss (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWhWXOlc524#ws)
At 9:50. Nice way to play with the NES Dracula music.

Totally agree, especially with the bolded. I'm not terribly anxious to hear, say, Bloody Tears orchestrated; it'd be about fifteen seconds of pretty good stuff, and then there'd need to be at least two or so minutes of non-Bloody Tears material to avoid having the same fifteen seconds looped over and over. Classicvania music is great, but not all of it would mesh well with an orchestra.

In my perfect world, Igor Stravinsky is brought back from the dead to compose for the series. If the next game's soundtrack could capture even a fraction of the menace and mystery present in The Rite of Spring, I'd be a happy, happy fan. Ecstatic, even.

Stravinsky: Glorification of the Chosen one (Yuri Simonov) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE_WGOm6I2s#ws)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: X on May 21, 2012, 11:46:54 PM
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Quite a crazy day, I can't believe all of the stuff we've learned today.

These next two weeks are going to be very long.

Not nearly as long as this thread will be if it keeps going the way it has been. It'll be like the LoS thread... I wonder if this thread will break the record for being the longest..?
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Post by: OSM on May 21, 2012, 11:49:22 PM
Not nearly as long as this thread will be if it keeps going the way it has been. It'll be like the LoS thread... I wonder if this thread will break the record for being the longest..?
I wonder if my respect gauge will surpass Jorge's before then. Jesus it went up like 30 points today.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Dengo vlad tepes on May 21, 2012, 11:54:47 PM
CASTLEVANIAS o_o I SEE THEM COMING..
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Maedhros on May 22, 2012, 12:03:54 AM
Sorry to bring this back again, but I was playing Diablo 3 and the topic moves too fast!
The graphics aren't really that simplified they look the same to me. The framerate/blurry/sound are legit complaints. That's stuff we just have to live with with such a low resolution screen and a handheld system.

It is a bit concerning for sure, but Rayman was made for those big HD consoles, this castlevania game is being specifically made for 3DS so it will prolly run better.

seriously though what is up with the sound on this thing?....Revelations had poor sound quality too....Does the 3ds have a bad sound specs?
The graphics ARE simplified. I don't really see how can you NOT see this. You must be blind. Here:
(http://www.abload.de/img/raymanoriginspeu0l.jpg)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Green Stranger on May 22, 2012, 12:28:14 AM
There are some good times ahead no doubt. Even the nay sayers are gonna enjoy these additions to the series. Hell I might just celebrate early. Gonna buy some Tecates and Whataburger for a pregame celebration. How are you guys gonna celebrate?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Maedhros on May 22, 2012, 12:29:19 AM
I'll wait for concrete information before I celebrate.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Chernabogue on May 22, 2012, 12:48:17 AM
16 more pages during my sleep? Hopefully, I didn't sleep as long as Alucard did.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Nagumo on May 22, 2012, 12:58:29 AM
Is it realistic that a Castlevania game would be developed for four different systems? Not sure about the Vita but I don't think (although being able to handle a lot apperently) it could run a game of PS3/Xbox360 proportions.   
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Munchy on May 22, 2012, 01:03:03 AM
Is it realistic that a Castlevania game would be developed for four different systems? Not sure about the Vita but I don't think (although being able to handle a lot apperently) it could run a game of PS3/Xbox360 proportions.

It's okay. The Kojima seal of approval will likely return, effectively lowering the floodgates for Konami dollars to overflow. (Not that I'm complaining; Castlevania could be Mega Man, for example.)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Flame on May 22, 2012, 01:04:51 AM
It's okay. The Kojima seal of approval will likely return, effectively lowering the floodgates for Konami dollars to overflow. (Not that I'm complaining; Castlevania could be Mega Man, for example.)

;_;
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Munchy on May 22, 2012, 01:11:28 AM
;_;
I know that feel bro.

Back on topic, I'm very interested to see what the ratio of Classicvania to Metroidvania the game will turn out to be. Hopefully it veers towards the former.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: e105beta on May 22, 2012, 01:46:59 AM
I know that feel bro.

Back on topic, I'm very interested to see what the ratio of Classicvania to Metroidvania the game will turn out to be. Hopefully it veers towards the former.

Agreed. I think a good mix would be keeping the room and enemy layout Classicvania, while adding a giant explorable castle/castle grounds a la Metroidvania. Like Trine with a castle.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Chernabogue on May 22, 2012, 02:07:07 AM
MoF could be the CV surprise (almost) everyone is looking for.
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Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 22, 2012, 04:07:30 AM
To many pages to read, i don't know what to say, i'll just have to wait and see what this game is all about, before i make any comment.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: shelverton. on May 22, 2012, 04:39:34 AM
I love how passionate everyone is again! Some of the recent threads made me question if there was any love left for Castlevania, but now it feels like we're fans again, hoping for awesome things for the next games, regardless of what our opinions on LoS were. :D. I can't wait for some screenshots. If E3 has trailers for BOTH these games, I'm probably gonna pee myself. But in a good way.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: The Silverlord on May 22, 2012, 05:05:01 AM
If E3 has trailers for BOTH these games, I'm probably gonna pee myself. But in a good way.

Paul Gale says, "do expect to see these games playable at E3 2012", so I don't know what you're going to do!  Haha!

http://paulgalenetwork.com/home/2012/05/21/its-time-to-share-the-wii-u3ds-game-that-paul-gale-network-hinted-at-2011s-final-hour-castlevania-mirror-of-fate/ (http://paulgalenetwork.com/home/2012/05/21/its-time-to-share-the-wii-u3ds-game-that-paul-gale-network-hinted-at-2011s-final-hour-castlevania-mirror-of-fate/)

edit: Paul, on who's involved, "Mmm, the people that are involved and the graphical presentation [cel-shaded?] will have to wait until E3."

This is not completely ruling out IGA (or Kojima).  Hopefully he's not rolled out on-stage for a bit-part role (he does deserve more than that for all he's done over the years), but who knows??

Further edit: looking at all the bollocks/furore over the IGA vs. Cox/Mercurysteam in much of this and the NeoGAF thread, it wouldn't suprise me if there was more effort made to include IGA in some of this.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on May 22, 2012, 05:12:46 AM
By the way, those who don't want to sift through the pages can just visit the main site. I added a blurb on the What's New page about these allbut-confirmed rumors.-
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: shelverton. on May 22, 2012, 05:37:34 AM
If both Cox and IGA takes the stage at E3 and presents Mirror of Fate I'll LOL. It would instantly end the whole Cox vs. Iga debate. A part of me hopes that they're making the game together, just for the lulz.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: whitedragon_nall on May 22, 2012, 05:40:39 AM
Playable?! So we might get more than just trailers now! That's good news. It'd be great to see the game mesh all the great things from the 2 different timelines and appeal to the fans of both sides. That's what I'm really hoping for.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Nagumo on May 22, 2012, 05:43:21 AM
Interesting, so it's still unknown who is developing the game? I still think that comment from Cox on the rumor has some relevance. 
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: shelverton. on May 22, 2012, 05:45:23 AM
How about a Castlevania game in which the storyline establishes BOTH timelines? Something about an event that rips time in two. Or maybe something along the lines of Gwyneth Paltrow in "Sliding Doors"?

(Can't believe I just wrote that. I need to lay down.)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Chernabogue on May 22, 2012, 05:48:08 AM
1,5 year of development? They did not wait long after the release of LoS before starting it!

2 playable characters? Trevor/Simon and Alucard?

Also, Iga+Cox would be awesome.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Foffy on May 22, 2012, 06:05:06 AM
Wait, this was the same game Paul Gale was teasing back in 2010? This creates an interesting situation: he said back in 2010 that IGA was working on this very game..

http://paulgalenetwork.com/home/2010/12/21/koji-igarashi-working-on-new-castlevania-for-3ds/ (http://paulgalenetwork.com/home/2010/12/21/koji-igarashi-working-on-new-castlevania-for-3ds/)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Kingshango on May 22, 2012, 06:08:56 AM
Wait, this was the same game Paul Gale was teasing back in 2010? This creates an interesting situation: he said back in 2010 that IGA was working on this very game..

http://paulgalenetwork.com/home/2010/12/21/koji-igarashi-working-on-new-castlevania-for-3ds/ (http://paulgalenetwork.com/home/2010/12/21/koji-igarashi-working-on-new-castlevania-for-3ds/)

Maybe IGA was an adviser on the 3DS project, much like Kojima was with Lords.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: VladCT on May 22, 2012, 06:14:02 AM
If both Cox and IGA takes the stage at E3 and presents Mirror of Fate I'll LOL. It would instantly end the whole Cox vs. Iga debate.
That, or both camps could scream heresy and swear themselves off CV forever. LOL
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: shelverton. on May 22, 2012, 06:15:30 AM
Mirror of Fate sounds more lika an IGA game to me. As does the "camera" gimmick. It would also explain why Cox wrote "wrong end of the stick" on twitter when asked about this game...

What do you think?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Kingshango on May 22, 2012, 06:19:10 AM
Mirror of Fate sounds more lika an IGA game to me. As does the "camera" gimmick. It would also explain why Cox wrote "wrong end of the stick" on twitter when asked about this game...

What do you think?

Maybe IGA is the head of the 3DS game that Mercurysteam's portable team is making while Cox and the other half is making the console game.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Foffy on May 22, 2012, 06:19:34 AM
I myself would not mind a Mercury Steam/IGA team collaboration project, myself. Maybe Cox and the guys at Mercury Steam believe IGA's team to deliver on the portable front, so there's no need to replace them like there was for consoles.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ring_of_Varda on May 22, 2012, 06:28:37 AM
im sure all of us remember iga talking about how the tech in the 3ds is quite intriguing and how he would love to use it from the 2010 article.

the other reveal from the PGN is pretty interesting. but im not quite sure how i feel about the sound of the camera mechanics. If they truly are in playable stages in development E3 Cannot come fast enough!

"Castlevania: Mirror of Fate

- Nearly a 1.5 year development cycle.
- Stars two different playable characters.
- Features co-operative play with the prospect of 3DS and Wii U being able to interact with each other.
- The game is indeed a 2D Castlevania experience.
- Like mentioned in the rumor PGN received back in 2010, the goal was to find creative ways to utilize the 3DS’ cameras and this has been achieved in part due to the very name of the game, “Mirror of Fate”.
- The forward facing camera will act as a mirror and the outward facing cameras will come into play for a new puzzle solving mechanic.
- A Wii U version of the same game was in contention when I reported the “shocker” announcement in 2011, but has since become Konami’s decision to give the system one Castlevania: Lords of Shadows 2 (not exclusively, however, as other platforms will too see a release, including Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, and PS Vita).
- More interestingly perhaps, was the idea that Mirror of Fate on Wii U would be the same game as its 3DS brother, treat the U-Control as the 3DS’ bottom screen and your TV as the 3DS’ top screen, be able to play the game across both platforms, use the Wii U’s forward facing camera as a mirror to “capture your reflection and reveal your fate”, and so on.
- Instead, Castlevania: Lords of Shadows 2 on Wii U will be a different game which was safer for Konami, since it could 1) be an upgraded port of the Xbox 360/PS3 build and 2) still be able to retain some of its originally intended plans when it was Mirror of Fate, including some 3DS connectivity.
- The development of Wii U’s own ground-up Castlevania sku could still happen, I’m being told."
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: CastleDan on May 22, 2012, 06:43:51 AM
Super happy that this coming out for all the systems.
( by this I mean castlevania in general)...

More companies should do this, big brand names that have been on numerous consoles should be on every system!
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: CastleDan on May 22, 2012, 06:45:34 AM
Sorry to bring this back again, but I was playing Diablo 3 and the topic moves too fast!The graphics ARE simplified. I don't really see how can you NOT see this. You must be blind. Here:
(http://www.abload.de/img/raymanoriginspeu0l.jpg)

1) You don't have to be rude.

2) It's not that big of a difference, it's not as vibrant and it's blurry. It's not a huge difference where i'd be like...the artwork doesn't look as good!1111 It's still a pretty game on the 3DS, that was my point.

The sound however is soooooo horrible.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Foffy on May 22, 2012, 06:46:50 AM
1) You don't have to be rude.

2) It's not that big of a difference, it's not as vibrant and it's blurry. It's not a huge difference where i'd be like...the artwork doesn't look as good!1111 It's still a pretty game on the 3DS, that was my point.

The sound however is soooooo horrible.

The framerate is rather weak, too. Everything seems like it's missing frames because it moves so slowly.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: CastleDan on May 22, 2012, 06:53:48 AM
The framerate is rather weak, too. Everything seems like it's missing frames because it moves so slowly.

That's valid, but I mentioned framerate being worse originally too. I'm saying the actual graphics look fine, it isn't a 360/ps3 that's rendering this. This was made with those systems in mind....

My main point was the castlevania game for 3ds was BUILT from the ground up for the 3DS, that's the main difference.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: beingthehero on May 22, 2012, 07:03:34 AM
If both Cox and IGA takes the stage at E3 and presents Mirror of Fate I'll LOL. It would instantly end the whole Cox vs. Iga debate. A part of me hopes that they're making the game together, just for the lulz.

But then there would be arguments over who is making it more, and how all the bad things are due to one of them alone, and then people would be going through giving everybody a -1 and it would be ughghghghghg
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: CastleDan on May 22, 2012, 07:10:00 AM
People already give -1's way to easily.

I mean my last post was just me saying that i think the graphics look fine for the most part, nothing rude, nothing crazy...and someone -1's me......Lol
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Dominus Agony on May 22, 2012, 07:17:10 AM
I hope the overall quality isn't lost due to them spreading it over several platforms.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: CastleDan on May 22, 2012, 07:21:52 AM
I hope the overall quality isn't lost due to them spreading it over several platforms.

I'm hoping the new engine supports better performance because in the rumors it says it does..Maybe that will help
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 22, 2012, 07:51:41 AM
Paul Gale is a good source so I'm kinda taking it all as settled.
There are bright times  ;D
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: e105beta on May 22, 2012, 08:04:00 AM
Mirror of Fate sounds more lika an IGA game to me. As does the "camera" gimmick. It would also explain why Cox wrote "wrong end of the stick" on twitter when asked about this game...

What do you think?

Ugh, please don't say things like that. I would love to have IGA back for a tag team, but not if he's going to pull another "gimmicks before gameplay, gimmicks before story" move
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Nagumo on May 22, 2012, 08:05:05 AM
Mirror of Fate sounds more lika an IGA game to me. As does the "camera" gimmick. It would also explain why Cox wrote "wrong end of the stick" on twitter when asked about this game...

What do you think?

Good thinking, sir. I think so too. Also, note that the article has a picture of IGA...   
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: whitedragon_nall on May 22, 2012, 08:09:56 AM
A good collaboration might just be what the fans and the series needs.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: The Silverlord on May 22, 2012, 08:10:56 AM
Good thinking, sir. I think so too. Also, note that the article has a picture of IGA...

It sounds very feasible.  Oho-oh!
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Thomas Belmont on May 22, 2012, 08:12:51 AM
If both Cox and IGA takes the stage at E3 and presents Mirror of Fate I'll LOL. It would instantly end the whole Cox vs. Iga debate. A part of me hopes that they're making the game together, just for the lulz.


That would be like getting the Gate Keeper and Key Master together.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 22, 2012, 08:15:36 AM
A good collaboration might just be what the fans and the series needs.
It will end all the internal wars really. A complete Utopia. Gaming gods, let it happen!
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Chernabogue on May 22, 2012, 08:21:29 AM
If Cox and MS bring what did the success of LoS (quality of the game) and if IGA and his team bring more traditional CV elements, be sure it could be the new best game of the series.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Dengo vlad tepes on May 22, 2012, 08:37:57 AM
If Cox and MS bring what did the success of LoS (quality of the game) and if IGA and his team bring more traditional CV elements, be sure it could be the new best game of the series.

this is what they need to make the perfect castlevania !

i think IGA is behind this too idk why but i can feel his hat coming


btw Michiru yamani is not in charge of castlevania music so idk how does the music of this game will feel or maybe they will bring us Takeshi Kuramochi the composer of pachislot series and arcade ... can't wait for more news


IGA & COX !! can't wait to see their hands shaking scene at E3 !!!
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: beingthehero on May 22, 2012, 08:40:20 AM
There's also Masahiko Kimura, co-composer of DoS, plus that guy who composed for some of DXC and OoE. Both of them were good.

And there's always hope that Yuzo Koshiro will come back.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Dengo vlad tepes on May 22, 2012, 08:42:24 AM
There's also Masahiko Kimura, co-composer of DoS, plus that guy who composed for some of DXC and OoE. Both of them were good.

And there's always hope that Yuzo Koshiro will come back.

but hey michiru composed skullgirls music which means that she's still working in konami so maybe she will make her comeback in this



out of the subject , for the one who dislike every post i post here i can see your shadow !

and your posts are waay much more than mine so if i was as empty headed as you i could dislike your posts over than 500 times so read the subject and be silent
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 22, 2012, 08:43:56 AM
I'm betting Araujo is NOT making the OST for Mirror of Fate. He's an Orchestra man not chiptune. So, time to put your hopes up Araujo-naysayers?  :P
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: VladCT on May 22, 2012, 08:45:43 AM
...plus that guy who composed for some of DXC and OoE.
You mean Yasuhiro Ichihashi.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: whitedragon_nall on May 22, 2012, 08:47:58 AM
They could always just use Araujo again. His music in LoS was a bit different than what were used to, but it wasn't bad music. If Cox and Iga are allegedly working together, maybe we'll have multiple composers as well. 

Edit: Ahasverus does have a point about Araujo being an orchestra man, though.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ring_of_Varda on May 22, 2012, 08:49:14 AM
i think we all need to hope and pray for such an unholy union to come to fruition. I guess i have never heard of paul gale but that doesnt say much, my lust for gaming has been on the decline for a number of years. I really only have the opportunity to steadily enjoy handheld gaming.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 22, 2012, 08:50:21 AM
They could always just use Araujo again. His music in LoS was a bit different than what were used to, but it wasn't bad music. If Cox and Iga are allegedly working together, maybe we'll have multiple composers as well.
Araujo is already confirmed to be the composer for the console sequel, but we don't know if he's making the MoF OST.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Nagumo on May 22, 2012, 08:50:55 AM
MoF 

In my language this word is slang for Nazi.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: crisis on May 22, 2012, 08:51:36 AM
Man, the Japanese have such awesome names...
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Chernabogue on May 22, 2012, 08:54:14 AM
Mirror of Fate is kinda meh compared to other subtitles CV games have, but this mirror could be the center of the plot. Let's wait and see.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: e105beta on May 22, 2012, 08:56:04 AM
I'm betting Araujo is NOT making the OST for Mirror of Fate. He's an Orchestra man not chiptune. So, time to put your hopes up Araujo-naysayers?  :P

Is sound quality really even an issue anymore?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 22, 2012, 08:58:01 AM
But listening to this, perhaps Araujo could make a simpler soundtrack, like he did in Scrapland
timecode music scrapland ost (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEr-sKf2YqE#)
Scrapland - Ending (HD) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8oQXQRUdqg#)
VGM Hall Of Fame: Scrapland - Welcome (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0URHKRSMVCs#)
I've been watching some videos of this game, and man these guys are great at graphics, I mean, it's a 2004 game. I'd be glad if the 3DS game loked like this.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: whitedragon_nall on May 22, 2012, 08:59:59 AM
Is sound quality really even an issue anymore?

If I remember correctly, the Kid Icarus: Uprising music was orchestrated. Perhaps we'll see the same with MoF.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: TheouAegis on May 22, 2012, 09:01:16 AM
How the hell is this already over 30 pages long in two-day's time?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Chernabogue on May 22, 2012, 09:05:11 AM
I don't care if music is chiptune, orchestrated or Norvegian black metal, but I really want it to be more melodic.

Most of LoS' score is orchestrated ambient music, but pieces like "The Final Battle" or the Main Theme of LoS (that have more melodies) are really cool.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: e105beta on May 22, 2012, 09:08:17 AM
But listening to this, perhaps Araujo could make a simpler soundtrack, like he did in Scrapland
timecode music scrapland ost (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEr-sKf2YqE#)
Scrapland - Ending (HD) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8oQXQRUdqg#)
VGM Hall Of Fame: Scrapland - Welcome (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0URHKRSMVCs#)
I've been watching some videos of this game, and man these guys are great at graphics, I mean, it's a 2004 game. I'd be glad if the 3DS game loked like this.

This is why I have no issue with Araujo. He's a talented composer with the ability to compose multiple kinds of music, and on top of that, we know Cox and MercurySteam are aware of the fans and what they are saying. With that combination, I think we could get a really bang up Castlevania soundtrack out of Araujo.

If I remember correctly, the Kid Icarus: Uprising music was orchestrated. Perhaps we'll see the same with MoF.

Seeing how it no longer takes an orchestra to get orchestrated music, I wouldn't be surprised if we do.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Foffy on May 22, 2012, 09:25:21 AM
There's also Masahiko Kimura, co-composer of DoS, plus that guy who composed for some of DXC and OoE. Both of them were good.

And there's always hope that Yuzo Koshiro will come back.

Koshiro has quite possibly the smallest catalog of any other Castlevania composer when it came to making music for the games. I think about 5 tracks, all from Portrait of Ruin no less, are all he's ever done. Of all of the composers, he seems the least likely to be brought in. Yamane, Ichihashi, and Kuramochi seem like more likely candidates if Araujo is not doing the music.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Chernabogue on May 22, 2012, 09:31:36 AM
Certainely Ichihashi or Kuramochi. They did the most recent ones (HD, etc.) and Yamane left Konami after OoE.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 22, 2012, 10:01:53 AM
It would be absolutely nuts if Mercury Steam and IGA were working on MoF together. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if it was happening. 2D Castlevania is IGA's forte after all.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: knightmere on May 22, 2012, 10:21:49 AM
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It would be absolutely nuts if Mercury Steam and IGA were working on MoF together. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if it was happening. 2D Castlevania is IGA's forte after all.

That would certainly be interesting, the end result could be quite good.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Maedhros on May 22, 2012, 10:29:01 AM
That's valid, but I mentioned framerate being worse originally too. I'm saying the actual graphics look fine, it isn't a 360/ps3 that's rendering this. This was made with those systems in mind....

My main point was the castlevania game for 3ds was BUILT from the ground up for the 3DS, that's the main difference.
That's the problem. The game was delayed, A LOT, and they promised the same game on all platforms. Guess what? The 3DS version sucks (BTW, the problem with the image are the simplified backgrounds and enviroment, the vines are almost just a line; muddy and blurry colors and low, very low resolution). The Vita and Wii versions are identical to the PC/PS360 versions, INCLUDING the 60FPS. If they couldn't do that on the 3DS, I prefer them not releasing there at all.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: DragonSlayr81 on May 22, 2012, 10:31:47 AM
The whole IGA+Cox thing is  actually what I've been WANTING since a WHILE now. The presentation of LoS was top notch. A collab between IGA, Cox and MS would be godly.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: cecil-kain on May 22, 2012, 10:49:42 AM
Igarashi + Cox?  Hmmm....

Honestly I think producers tend to take too much credit for their teams' work, but that's the way of the world I suppose...

If I understand the rumors correctly, Mercury Steam is in charge of developing these games.  So even if Igarashi is somehow involved, it seems his Akumajo Dracula team is not.  Perhaps Igarashi would be a figurehead much like Hideo Kojima was for Lords of Shadow --it would be a smart PR move to placate disgruntled fans.  One thing is for certain --we need to get some hard news.  I get the feeling half of what we're reading here is speculation...
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Flame on May 22, 2012, 10:52:54 AM
Who the hell was going through the last 2 pages -1 ing everyone?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Neobelmont on May 22, 2012, 10:53:53 AM
I just want this to hit a home run konami. I means is it odd that I want these games to sell well over a million copies, get a front cover on magazines like gameinformer, and have long ass commercials and stuff.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: CastleDan on May 22, 2012, 10:58:10 AM
Who the hell was going through the last 2 pages -1 ing everyone?

Idk but they sure as hell like doing it to me everytime I post....

waits for it
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 22, 2012, 10:58:42 AM
I just want this to hit a home run konami. I means is it odd that I want these games to sell well over a million copies, get a front cover on magazines like gameinformer, and have long ass commercials and stuff.
Yep, it's now or never. Konami, this is your chance to make Castlevania sit atop with the most important franchises.
A WiiU launch title will give them an advantage, and God knows that if this "CV in ALL platforms" is real, this will be the most important release in franchise's history.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Neobelmont on May 22, 2012, 10:59:48 AM
Who the hell was going through the last 2 pages -1 ing everyone?

Idk but they sure as hell like doing it to me everytime I post....

waits for it

If someone can do that then I will plus everyone for the next two pages.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: cecil-kain on May 22, 2012, 11:04:31 AM
I've been away for awhile...  What are these respect points and how do they work?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 22, 2012, 11:04:32 AM
Idk but they sure as hell like doing it to me everytime I post....

waits for it
Hahah man seems that they love you now  :D

"You've been given a chance. Take it well."
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 22, 2012, 11:08:40 AM
Ditto, this is a huge moment for the franchise. I see now why Konami has been so secretive about it.

First E3 in ages where Castlevania takes the spotlight, amazing.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: crisis on May 22, 2012, 11:09:56 AM
everyone's losing their minds it seems.. and there's still no hardcore proof of anything


I would like Kotobukiya or Play Arts KAI to make some Castlevania figures/statues
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Maedhros on May 22, 2012, 11:12:23 AM
IGA + Cox...

I don't know how I would feel... my body wouldn't be ready, you know...

Let's see if they'll make these games more like Castlevania now, removing the shitty parts from it and adding what fans were asking.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: cecil-kain on May 22, 2012, 11:14:10 AM
everyone's losing their minds it seems.. and there's still no hardcore proof of anything

Given what few facts we have, I think there's something to this.  Unlike that Complete Chronicles rumor last fall--we can see the smoke this time...
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Neobelmont on May 22, 2012, 11:16:04 AM
Idk but they sure as hell like doing it to me everytime I post....

waits for it

You have +3 now  ;)

Yet on the other hand if all of this is true I want it to be like how resident evil is doing it,but only twenty times better, meaning g no crappy game period this has to be perfect in every aspect, japan america,europe. IGA,Kojima,Cox,Alvarez, and most of all the pr and stuff need to absolutely bring their a game and make it known why cv is above all the other action games like devil may cry and god of war hell in fact make some of the people who made those games support cv in some way. Cv has in some way always given stuff away I think it's time that cv get the recognition it deserves.


IGA + Cox...

I don't know how I would feel... my body wouldn't be ready, you know...

Let's see if they'll make these games more like Castlevania now, removing the shitty parts from it and adding what fans were asking.

Hell yes your body will be ready  >:(
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 22, 2012, 11:16:12 AM
Let's see if they'll make these games more like Castlevania now, removing the shitty parts from it and adding what fans were asking.
I'm not expecting everything to be 100% the way it used to be, but I'm hoping our criticism helped them achieve a balance most fans will enjoy more.

As long as the games are fun to play over and over again, I will keep supporting the brand.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Chernabogue on May 22, 2012, 11:18:26 AM
I truly hope Konami won't spoil the whole thing by coming at E3 with "zOMG MGS Revengeance Raiden lolol $$$ Hideo Kojima" and make Castlevania its biggest spot.

This series is LEGENDARY, it deserves that!
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: DragonSlayr81 on May 22, 2012, 11:21:51 AM
I would like Kotobukiya or Play Arts KAI to make some Castlevania figures/statues
I kinda wonder WHY they actually didn't make a line of LoS action figures. I mean, it did well, didn't it? Square Enix released Play Arts figures of Bayonetta characters.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 22, 2012, 11:22:02 AM
Gentlemen. The times has come.
Time to spam Konami Europe twitter mail and of course Cox twitter. Castlevania needs to be under the spotlight, not an afterthought after MGR. This is the chance of the series lifetime.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Neobelmont on May 22, 2012, 11:22:23 AM
I truly hope Konami won't spoil the whole thing by coming at E3 with "zOMG MGS Revengeance Raiden lolol $$$ Hideo Kojima" and make Castlevania its biggest spot.

This series is LEGENDARY, it deserves that!

Yet it never get's it,but if kojima was on board with like when Los was announced then something good might come about, remember he wants to help the new cv come into this world or something like that.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: beingthehero on May 22, 2012, 11:25:39 AM
I kinda wonder WHY they actually didn't make a line of LoS action figures. I mean, it did well, didn't it? Square Enix released Play Arts figures of Bayonetta characters.

I bet it would have to do with the poor reception of the NECA figures. Besides Simon (and maybe Alucard), the rest weren't all that great. Wall-eyed Succubus was the worst.

Simon was still good, though!

Also, I thought Koshiro's 5 PoR tracks were really good, especially the background themes. So while his contributions were minor, I would really like to hear him do a full Castlevania soundtrack. At the very least, I'd imagine it would sound like Actraiser, and that would be perfectly excellent for a CV soundtrack.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Neobelmont on May 22, 2012, 11:29:02 AM


Also, I thought Koshiro's 5 PoR tracks were really good, especially the background themes. So while his contributions were minor, I would really like to hear him do a full Castlevania soundtrack. At the very least, I'd imagine it would sound like Actraiser, and that would be perfectly excellent for a CV soundtrack.

What cv needs is some motoi sakuraba in the mix oh hell yes.

Gentlemen. The times has come.
Time to spam Konami Europe twitter mail and of course Cox twitter. Castlevania needs to be under the spotlight, not an afterthought after MGR. This is the chance of the series lifetime.

Agree with this over 100% i might make a twitter. This needs to crush all the others or at least stand side by side with the.... No I like the crushing idea way better.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: crisis on May 22, 2012, 11:30:08 AM
well i do have my own Gabriel Belmont figure >.<

and am currently brainstorming ideas on who should be realized in figure form next, but perhaps i've said too much
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: CastleDan on May 22, 2012, 11:46:25 AM
Is anyone else super stoked that we might be playing as Alucard again??
That just excites me, playing as a vampire is such a cool feeling for whatever reason. Transformations need to be back! ...It'd be nice if  his scenario has items to collect but I won't hold my breath.....

Can't wait regardless! Two different castlevania games with ( probably great production value since Kojima is involved nowadays)....

excited!
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Post by: Chernabogue on May 22, 2012, 11:47:38 AM
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Gentlemen. The times has come.
Time to spam Konami Europe twitter mail and of course Cox twitter. Castlevania needs to be under the spotlight, not an afterthought after MGR. This is the chance of the series lifetime.
I want to make a video for that. I really want.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Vrakanox on May 22, 2012, 11:48:50 AM
Is anyone else super stoked that we might be playing as Alucard again??
That just excites me, playing as a vampire is such a cool feeling for whatever reason. Transformations need to be back! ...It'd be nice if  his scenario has items to collect but I won't hold my breath.....

Can't wait regardless! Two different castlevania games with ( probably great production value since Kojima is involved nowadays)....

excited!

Need you even ask ;)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 22, 2012, 11:49:47 AM
We have another rumor, but I don't think it's from the leak guy. I'm just gonna post it for the sake of having no real concrete news yet.

All of the initial rumors of cross platforms/vita is BS, but Nintendo Power subscribers will be getting a limited edition cover of Simon.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Neobelmont on May 22, 2012, 11:50:02 AM
We have another rumor, but I don't think it's from the leak guy. I'm just gonna post it for the sake of having no real concrete news yet.

All of the initial rumors of cross platforms/vita is BS, but Nintendo Power subscribers will be getting a limited edition cover of Simon.
No f@#$%^&* way  :o is it too late for us/me to sub to them? Please awnser.


Is anyone else super stoked that we might be playing as Alucard again??
That just excites me, playing as a vampire is such a cool feeling for whatever reason. Transformations need to be back! ...It'd be nice if  his scenario has items to collect but I won't hold my breath.....

Can't wait regardless! Two different castlevania games with ( probably great production value since Kojima is involved nowadays)....

excited!

You know I am a belmont guy has and will always be till the day I die, but if Any cv character is done right especially in a 3-d enviroment then hell even I have to take a look and say wow.
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Post by: Maedhros on May 22, 2012, 11:50:54 AM
I'm not expecting everything to be 100% the way it used to be, but I'm hoping our criticism helped them achieve a balance most fans will enjoy more.

As long as the games are fun to play over and over again, I will keep supporting the brand.
That's exactly why I'm cautiously optmistic. They have TWO chances to do right now... what are the chances of them fucking my hype now, like they did with LoS (I was STOCKED by the trailers and before they shown the gameplay)?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: CastleDan on May 22, 2012, 11:52:44 AM
We have another rumor, but I don't think it's from the leak guy. I'm just gonna post it for the sake of having no real concrete news yet.

All of the initial rumors of cross platforms/vita is BS, but Nintendo Power subscribers will be getting a limited edition cover of Simon.
..wait...wait...

A vita version of the game is BS...or just the cross platforming aspect............
O_O
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 22, 2012, 11:53:03 AM
We have another rumor, but I don't think it's from the leak guy. I'm just gonna post it for the sake of having no real concrete news yet.

All of the initial rumors of cross platforms/vita is BS, but Nintendo Power subscribers will be getting a limited edition cover of Simon.
Now that's a bummer. However with Paul Gale's story comes a better ressurement of earlier stories.

Still, how's that about a limited edition cover of Simon? A limited edition magazine cover or game cover? Hahahah.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 22, 2012, 11:54:17 AM
Now that's a bummer. However with Paul Gale's story comes a better ressurement of earlier stories.

Still, how's that about a limited edition cover of Simon? A limited edition magazine cover or game cover? Hahahah.
Game magazine, it's for Nintendo Power.

Remember the Simon's Quest cover for NP back in the day? Sounds like a big throwback to it.
..wait...wait...

A vita version of the game is BS...or just the cross platforming aspect............
O_O
No WiiU or Vita versions. No "crazy shit" that has everyone hyped up for it in the first place.
No f@#$%^&* way  :o is it too late for us/me to sub to them? Please awnser.
No clue.

Again, I just posted it because we have nothing else to talk about. Just treat it with a lot of condiments of the salty variety for now.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Neobelmont on May 22, 2012, 11:57:13 AM
Game magazine, it's for Nintendo Power.

Remember the Simon's Quest cover for NP back in the day? Sounds like a big throwback to it.No WiiU or Vita versions. No "crazy shit" that has everyone hyped up for it in the first place.No clue.

I hope it get's announced so I can subscribe to it.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: CastleDan on May 22, 2012, 11:58:15 AM
Game magazine, it's for Nintendo Power.

Remember the Simon's Quest cover for NP back in the day? Sounds like a big throwback to it.No WiiU or Vita versions. No "crazy shit" that has everyone hyped up for it in the first place.No clue.

Where did you get that information?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 22, 2012, 11:58:49 AM
I hate your new rumors, OSM  :P
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 22, 2012, 11:58:58 AM
I hope it get's announced so I can subscribe to it.
It's probably bullshit.

Man I love and hate pre-E3 rumors soooo much.
Where did you get that information?
Same place where I met the leak guy, that super shitty anonymous image board.
I hate your new rumors, OSM  :P
I don't like this new one as much either.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: CastleDan on May 22, 2012, 12:00:59 PM
but isn't it safer to trust the sites reporting this information because....well.....
they do have sources....and those sources....have played the game...and it's coming from actual press?

:(
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 22, 2012, 12:05:43 PM
but isn't it safer to trust the sites reporting this information because....well.....
they do have sources....and those sources....have played the game...and it's coming from actual press?

:(
Yes. Probably.

I'm done posting anymore rumors, I just want E3 to hurry up. I don't believe this new one at all.

If you do want to believe him, he said the actual magazine is out in two days for subscribers.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 22, 2012, 12:06:04 PM
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that super shitty anonymous image board.
Oh.. that place :shrugs:
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I'm done posting anymore rumors, I just want E3 to hurry up. I don't believe this new one at all.
Nooo!! If you know something from the leaker, please tell us
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ring_of_Varda on May 22, 2012, 12:06:19 PM
so wait... the leaks are coming from 4chan?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: CastleDan on May 22, 2012, 12:07:39 PM
so wait... the leaks are coming from 4chan?

Not the ones from the press...at least I don't think so..
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 22, 2012, 12:07:49 PM
so wait... the leaks are coming from 4chan?
Not all of them
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 22, 2012, 12:09:30 PM
so wait... the leaks are coming from 4chan?
The cross platform shit is from the press.

The Trevor/Alucard, Metroidvania shenanigans is from 4chan and from the original leaker.

This new rumor about Simon on the cover is fresh and hot, and from someone else.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: CastleDan on May 22, 2012, 12:11:55 PM
The cross platform shit is from the press.

The Trevor/Alucard, Metroidvania shenanigans is from 4chan and from the original leaker.

This new rumor about Simon on the cover is fresh and hot, and from someone else.

I'm willing to believe the press because the title seems legit and David wouldn't outright deny 'rumors'....
If they are getting the title from the same location the LOS2 all systems release info is coming from, i think it's safe to say that stuff si is true...Unless there's a mean human out there laughing right now.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 22, 2012, 12:12:59 PM
Ok, these are the facts:

Mirror of Fate exists.

That's all.

 :)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 22, 2012, 12:14:59 PM
Ok, these are the facts:

Mirror of Fate exists.

That's all.

 :)
I believe the original rumors/Paul Gate/press rumors more. There's a ton of stuff backing it all up.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: GuyStarwind on May 22, 2012, 12:16:50 PM
Alright rather than read all 43 pages of stuff, can someone just tell me the important stuff?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 22, 2012, 12:18:01 PM
Isn't it funny that Castlevania stills goes by the "X of X" Subtitle after all these years? Hahah.
I wouldn't like to be responsible for changing that either.

Alright rather than read all 43 pages of stuff, can someone just tell me the important stuff?
http://paulgalenetwork.com/home/2012/05/21/its-time-to-share-the-wii-u3ds-game-that-paul-gale-network-hinted-at-2011s-final-hour-castlevania-mirror-of-fate/ (http://paulgalenetwork.com/home/2012/05/21/its-time-to-share-the-wii-u3ds-game-that-paul-gale-network-hinted-at-2011s-final-hour-castlevania-mirror-of-fate/)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 22, 2012, 12:18:25 PM
Alright rather than read all 43 pages of stuff, can someone just tell me the important stuff?
3DSVania exists.

That's about it.

EDIT: And LoS 2.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ring_of_Varda on May 22, 2012, 12:19:56 PM
why would the dutch source and paul gale network be parroting things from 4chan?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: CastleDan on May 22, 2012, 12:21:27 PM
3DSVania exists.

That's about it.
Didn't u just say you believe the press?...lol
If you did you would mention LOS2 and all the systems it's for! :P
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Nagumo on May 22, 2012, 12:21:58 PM
Facts:

- Mirror of Fate exists
- Made for 3DS
- Game is compatible with LoS2
- Not sure who is developing yet. The original leak says Mercury Steam but this may be false when taking into account Cox's comment on the rumor. The Paul Gale article also didn't want to reveal who is making it, suggesting it might be a suprise. Plus it contains a picture of IGA which might be a hint.       

- LoS 2 exists
- developed for PS3, Xbox360, Vita, WiiU 
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 22, 2012, 12:22:06 PM
why would the dutch source and paul gale network be parroting things from 4chan?
Paul didn't. He supposedly knew about this since december 2011
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 22, 2012, 12:22:17 PM
Didn't u just say you believe the press?...lol
If you did you would mention LOS2 and all the systems it's for! :P
I'm just focusing on 3DSVania right now. I didn't even think of Lords 2. :P
- Not sure who is developing yet. The original leak says Mercury Steam but this may be false when taking into account Cox's comment on the rumor. The Paul Gale article also didn't want to reveal who is making it, suggesting it might be a suprise.       
I can't wait to see this place explode when IGA steps onto the stage.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: GuyStarwind on May 22, 2012, 12:26:27 PM
Alrighty thanks for the info. :)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: CastleDan on May 22, 2012, 12:27:09 PM
I'm just focusing on 3DSVania right now. I didn't even think of Lords 2. :PI can't wait to see this place explode when IGA steps onto the stage.

Am I the only one who would prefer MercurySteam working on a sidescroller than IGA?...
IGA's castlevanias have been getting less and less creative as far as level design.... I used to think they were bad at 3d level design only but then the 2d ones got worse.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 22, 2012, 12:27:53 PM
Am I the only one who would prefer MercurySteam working on a sidescroller than IGA?...
IGA's castlevanias have been getting less and less creative as far as level design.... I used to think they were bad at 3d level design only but then the 2d ones got worse.
IDk, Mercury under IGA's baton would be a dream come true.
The WHOLE japanase team is not so hot though. but a few consultants would rock.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: CastleDan on May 22, 2012, 12:35:13 PM
IDk, Mercury under IGA's baton would be a dream come true.
The WHOLE japanase team is not so hot though. but a few consultants would rock.

Workin' together, sure i'd be fine with that. They really need the people who actually made symphony of the night. I don't know how anyone thinks any of the other metroidvania's are better. Symphony of the night had the best lookin'/designed castle. I think it had the best music...the best animation....etc..etc

I mean to each their own it certainly has flaws in the balance area but it's such a wonderful experience, you really feel like you are in the 1700's..
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Foffy on May 22, 2012, 12:42:57 PM
Paul didn't. He supposedly knew about this since december 2011

December 2010, actually.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Super Waffle on May 22, 2012, 12:46:55 PM
This is almost as amazing as that Charlotte thread.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: CastleDan on May 22, 2012, 12:48:03 PM
This is almost as amazing as that Charlotte thread.

coughs you are welcome >_> :P
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: knightmere on May 22, 2012, 12:51:09 PM
IGA is far from perfect but his influence could certainly help this title if he is involved.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Kamirine on May 22, 2012, 12:52:53 PM
FINALLY was able to read all 44 pages of this! XD

With all the leaks/rumors, I've got to admit, I'm hyped as **** for Mirrors of Fate. I've really been jonsing for a handheld CV for a while now (I've been playing through all my older games and have finally made it to the DS titles...) and it's nice to know that I have one to look forward to on my 3DS.

As much as I'm not a fan of LoS, I have to admit, I'm still stoked even if Cox/Mercury Steam are making the game. Though I will admit, I am a big fan of this IGA/Cox collaboration myself, more so if this does end up being a reimagining of sorts for CV3. (It as IGA's favorite game, I think it's a little fitting that he gets to help with it...) I'm REALLY hoping the rumor about it being on Wii U and the Vita are true.

EDIT: NVM about the teaser for last month. It doesn't sound CVish after so this rumor may in fact be false, along with the information about the games not coming for the WiiU/Vita, etc. But as said, if Castlevania is on the cover, I'll scan and post it when my issue comes in.

Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Maedhros on May 22, 2012, 12:55:28 PM
Alright rather than read all 43 pages of stuff, can someone just tell me the important stuff?
That exactly why I said to post everything released on the OP.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: CastleDan on May 22, 2012, 12:56:33 PM
Oh sorry I can do that...anyone have a neat collection of the info so i can just copy and paste it?...

Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Kingshango on May 22, 2012, 12:57:41 PM
So I just got back and Im reading there is no Wii U version? Is the 2 player co op for the 3DS rumor false too?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Nagumo on May 22, 2012, 01:00:37 PM
The deal was that Mirror of Fate was also going to be released on WiiU. This idea was scrapped in favor of porting LoS 2 over to the system instead.   
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: CastleDan on May 22, 2012, 01:01:54 PM
So I just got back and Im reading there is no Wii U version? Is the 2 player co op for the 3DS rumor false too?

That's just a rumor, and that rumor doesn't seem as reliable.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: whitedragon_nall on May 22, 2012, 01:03:02 PM
I may have to subscribe to Nintendo Power now. Oh well, not the end of the world.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 22, 2012, 01:03:20 PM
As for the Nintendo Power rumor, I have to admit, it would certainly make the teaser at the end of last month's issue make sense. If it does end up being Castlevania, you better believe I'll scan that sucker and post it up.
What teaser?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Sumac on May 22, 2012, 01:05:40 PM
So much new information...and it's all could be false.
Oh, well. I'll wait for screenshots or some definite confirmation before stating any opinion about this projects(s). However, if all this stuff that we've heard before is at least partially true, then this could become a glorious time to be a Castlevania fan.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Kamirine on May 22, 2012, 01:13:04 PM
What teaser?

Bah, nevermind. I went and took another look at it but forgot it said 'comrade' at the end and the mysterious image is in red. Makes it sound like whatever game may have something to do with Russia.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Munchy on May 22, 2012, 01:13:36 PM
More than anything I'm excited for Co-op. And making absolutely ridiculous faces for puzzles.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Kamirine on May 22, 2012, 01:19:11 PM
More than anything I'm excited for Co-op. And making absolutely ridiculous faces for puzzles.

So am I! After Portrait of Ruin, I was wondering if they were ever going to get around to making an traditional Castlevania game with a Co-Op feature possibly throughout the entire quest. Then after Harmony of Despair, I was just waiting on it. Now to hear that this game may actually have it makes me giddy.

When is Konami's Pre-E3 announcement/presentation?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 22, 2012, 01:59:42 PM
I just found these, i don't know if they are true or not, but here you are:

RUMOR: Castlevania: Mirror of Fate/Lords of Shadow II - more details, Mirror of Fate's Wii U connection
May 22, 2012 by RawmeatCowboy
Castlevania: Mirror of Fate

- Nearly a 1.5 year development cycle.
- Stars two different playable characters.
- Features co-operative play with the prospect of 3DS and Wii U being able to interact with each other.
- 2D Castlevania experience.
- the goal was to find creative ways to utilize the 3DS’ cameras and this has been achieved due to the very name of the game, “Mirror of Fate”.
- The forward facing camera will act as a mirror and the outward facing cameras will come into play for a new puzzle solving mechanic.

Castlevania: Lords of Shadow II

- originally a Wii U version of Mirror of Fate was in the works
- the idea was that Mirror of Fate on Wii U would be the same game as its 3DS outing, with the Wii U controller serving as the 3DS' bottom screen and your TV as the top
- you would be able to play the game across both platforms
- this idea was put aside to instead bring an enhanced version of Lords of Shadow II over to Wii U
- development of Wii U’s own ground-up Castlevania sku could still happen

Site link:http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=177680 (http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=177680)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: e105beta on May 22, 2012, 02:01:40 PM
Castlevania: Mirror of Fate

- Stars two different playable characters.


Cox Belmont and IGAcard.

Calling it now.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Maedhros on May 22, 2012, 02:02:32 PM
Coveniently, they don't list the other platforms rumored. Seriously, that's shitty journalism, being biased because of the name of the site.

Castledan, you can update the OP with that information + the platforms rumored for LOS2, and add the source as Paul Gale.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 22, 2012, 02:08:19 PM
Coveniently, they don't list the other platforms rumored. Seriously, that's shitty journalism, being biased because of the name of the site.
It's called GoNINTENDO for a reason. :P

The site only reports news that's related to Nintendo.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: beingthehero on May 22, 2012, 02:09:28 PM
If it's being developed by IGA, I wonder if the plot will attempt to bridge the Lords universe into the main canon. Stranger things have happened with the plots.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: e105beta on May 22, 2012, 02:10:52 PM
If it's being developed by IGA, I wonder if the plot will attempt to bridge the Lords universe into the main canon. Stranger things have happened with the plots.

I think he's learned his lesson. He even said as much.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Maedhros on May 22, 2012, 02:24:07 PM
It's called GoNINTENDO for a reason. :P

The site only reports news that's related to Nintendo.
Like I've said, the name of the site don't impede them to post the complete news, UNLESS they're being paid by Nintendo.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 22, 2012, 02:25:23 PM
If it's being developed by IGA, I wonder if the plot will attempt to bridge the Lords universe into the main canon. Stranger things have happened with the plots.
I hope not.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Neobelmont on May 22, 2012, 02:30:32 PM
If it's being developed by IGA, I wonder if the plot will attempt to bridge the Lords universe into the main canon. Stranger things have happened with the plots.
Hmm... interesting,but if it does not work then all hell will break loose
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Chernabogue on May 22, 2012, 02:36:01 PM
The old timeline and the new timeline must stay separated.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: ChibiMaddiChan on May 22, 2012, 02:36:14 PM
Nice to finally get a Castlevania game for the 3DS, I've been waiting since the thing got released.

Hey, that person that used to go to those conferences, do they still come to the dungeon? And if so, are you going this year?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: kingu on May 22, 2012, 02:36:35 PM
Cox Belmont and IGAcard.

Calling it now.
i'd pay extra to play as cox, the ultimate warrior, wielding the wwe championship.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Sindra on May 22, 2012, 02:40:12 PM
If it's being developed by IGA, I wonder if the plot will attempt to bridge the Lords universe into the main canon. Stranger things have happened with the plots.

The Coxvania games are to the other Castlevania games, as Ultimate Marvel is to the regular 616 universe. You keep them separate for a good reason - they're meant to be two different things for people to have two different flavors.

(oh yeah, and don't forget darker and edgier)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Foffy on May 22, 2012, 02:43:22 PM
i'd pay extra to play as cox, the ultimate warrior, wielding the wwe championship.

The WWE Championship or the Cena belt everyone uses now? :3c
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: kingu on May 22, 2012, 02:54:00 PM
The WWE Championship or the Cena belt everyone uses now? :3c
the spinner belt because he had it in the hip hop gamer interview. it can be used as a compass.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: e105beta on May 22, 2012, 03:03:32 PM
i'd pay extra to play as cox, the ultimate warrior, wielding the wwe championship.

Suplexing fleamen doesn't sound bad to me
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Kingshango on May 22, 2012, 03:06:17 PM
This Friday is gonna be awesome.  :)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Foffy on May 22, 2012, 03:08:01 PM
the spinner belt because he had it in the hip hop gamer interview. it can be used as a compass.

If only it could be used to find the older belts. Even the older tag and womens belts...):

Bah, nevermind. I went and took another look at it but forgot it said 'comrade' at the end and the mysterious image is in red. Makes it sound like whatever game may have something to do with Russia.

Comrade could be a cute play on the co-op. Remember that. :P
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: crisis on May 22, 2012, 03:08:39 PM
devil may cry HD collection is out
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 22, 2012, 03:10:46 PM
This Friday is gonna be awesome.  :)
What's happening Friday?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Foffy on May 22, 2012, 03:11:46 PM
What's happening Friday?

One rumor claims images are dropping this Friday.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Kamirine on May 22, 2012, 03:11:46 PM
Hey, that person that used to go to those conferences, do they still come to the dungeon? And if so, are you going this year?

Nope, I won't be going this year, sorry. And I think Friday is the day of the Pre-E3 Conference for Konami. (Correct me if I'm wrong...)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 22, 2012, 03:14:07 PM
One rumor claims images are dropping this Friday.
(http://i.imgur.com/9Xte3.gif)
Source please.
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Post by: Foffy on May 22, 2012, 03:16:13 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/9Xte3.gif)
Source please.

Heard it off of /vg/, but there's lots of spreading from many places that the game will be in Nintendo Power, and that RMC of GoNintendo has known about this game for a while because of it.

The 'one for the generations' makes a lot of sense if everything we heard of the game so far is true. Old characters in a new continuity, old Castlevania staff with new Castlevania staff working on a new project...
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Post by: OSM on May 22, 2012, 03:16:57 PM
Heard it off of /vg/, but there's lots of spreading from many places that the game will be in Nintendo Power, and that RMC of GoNintendo has known about this game for a while because of it.
That lends a little credibility to the rumor of Simon appearing on the cover.
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Post by: crisis on May 22, 2012, 03:20:53 PM
so can we expect to see a trilogy of games for the 3DS now? i wonder.....
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Post by: OSM on May 22, 2012, 03:22:47 PM
The 'one for the generations' makes a lot of sense if everything we heard of the game so far is true. Old characters in a new continuity, old Castlevania staff with new Castlevania staff working on a new project...
I thought that was a hint for Metro: Last Light.
so can we expect to see a trilogy of games for the 3DS now? i wonder.....
It's been a golden rule/tradition that there must be three Castlevania games on each Nintendo handheld. I fully expect and hope it.
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Post by: Foffy on May 22, 2012, 03:24:02 PM
I thought that was a hint for Metro: Last Light.

It's something, but the explosion of stuff about this game makes it hard to figure it out with fair context. Seriously, who would have thought 48 hours ago we'd have a German site spill the beans on a Castlevania game for the 3DS?
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Post by: Chernabogue on May 22, 2012, 03:26:31 PM
I'm going to sleep. I'm sure that when I'll wake up, this thread will be at least 60-page long.  ;D
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Post by: Kamirine on May 22, 2012, 03:27:34 PM
(http://www.gonintendo.com/content/uploads/images/2012_4/faco.jpg)

That's the preview/teaser for the next Nintendo Power.
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Post by: Maedhros on May 22, 2012, 03:28:54 PM
I can't see nothing that resembles Castlevania there...
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Post by: crisis on May 22, 2012, 03:29:35 PM
that looks like a partial batwing on the top right. man this is gonna be a good summer. Castlevania videos will be shown for both this & LoS-2, Bane is gonna break Batman's back/spirit, Spidey, my birthday, etc.

am still waiting for a proper title for LoS2 though. come on you leakers, what say you?
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Post by: OSM on May 22, 2012, 03:30:30 PM
That's the preview/teaser for the next Nintendo Power.
Yea, I don't think this has anything to do with Castlevania.

I was gonna say "maybe it's Romania?" but a quick google search immediately debunked that.

EDIT: Nah, I'm not posting anymore rumors.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: crisis on May 22, 2012, 03:32:25 PM
i dont believe any story detail rumors, anyone can say anything at this point
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Post by: Foffy on May 22, 2012, 03:33:57 PM
I can't see nothing that resembles Castlevania there...

It's not so much the picture, but based on what we know of the game so far. Again, I've already mentioned the potential play on the word 'generations' and 'comrade' could imply the co-op we know of, but there's also the word 'fate' used, quite clearly.

Again, I have never once claimed it is for Mirror of Fate, but it's quite interesting that there's some connection, even if it's a loose one that is too much analysis to the vocabulary Nintendo Power used in order to be cryptic. It's quite clear I know as much about this as most of you guys, which is to say not much.
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Post by: Kingshango on May 22, 2012, 03:34:26 PM
No way @ those recent rumors being true. Im a optimist but that just not right.


But then again, REBOOT!
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Post by: Kamirine on May 22, 2012, 03:36:14 PM
Yea, I don't think this has anything to do with Castlevania.

I was gonna say "maybe it's Romania?" but a quick google search immediately debunked that.

I'm not sure what the image could be (seriously...) though now that I think of it, the 'comrade' bit could be because it's suppose to be co-op/has two heroes in this title. So that could explain that away instead of it being about Russia due to the word 'comrade' being used and the image being red. (Red is a color associated with Castlevania too...)

EDIT: AKA what Foffy said...

IDK.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 22, 2012, 03:37:04 PM
No way @ those recent rumors being true. Im a optimist but that just not right.


But then again, REBOOT!
I deleted it, I don't believe it but I'm hearing some things on 4chan backing it up. It sounds very plausible.
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Post by: CastleDan on May 22, 2012, 03:39:45 PM
Yea, I don't think this has anything to do with Castlevania.

I was gonna say "maybe it's Romania?" but a quick google search immediately debunked that.

EDIT: Nah, I'm not posting anymore rumors.

Idea...link us to the forum/thread where this rumor stuff is...so we can choose to see it or not.
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Post by: Munchy on May 22, 2012, 03:41:19 PM
Two other thoughts about this situation:

1. Handheld and Console games to reveal at once? Hm... I'm getting a sense of deja vu from the IGA days.
2. This being the case, MS must have a shit-ton of work cut out for them, or maybe have two different teams, one for each game?
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Post by: Kingshango on May 22, 2012, 03:43:53 PM
Two other thoughts about this situation:

1. Handheld and Console games to reveal at once? Hm... I'm getting a sense of deja vu from the IGA days.
2. This being the case, MS must have a shit-ton of work cut out for them, or maybe have two different teams, one for each game?

According to Enric Alverez, they recently expanded their studio, during development of Lords of Shadow it was a team of 40, now it's 105.
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Post by: Foffy on May 22, 2012, 03:44:18 PM
Two other thoughts about this situation:

1. Handheld and Console games to reveal at once? Hm... I'm getting a sense of deja vu from the IGA days.
2. This being the case, MS must have a shit-ton of work cut out for them, or maybe have two different teams, one for each game?

None of these recent reports have even said it's being made by MS, other than Enric Alvarez being involved. And I believe Paul Gate himself said it's a surprise, and he was the first source about Castlevania 3DS.
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Post by: crisis on May 22, 2012, 03:45:57 PM
lords 2 won't be released till November 2013

heard it here first!
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Post by: CastleDan on May 22, 2012, 03:47:43 PM
Someone link me to the site where all the rumors keep adding up please...
(site/thread....w/ez)

thankz
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Post by: OSM on May 22, 2012, 03:49:01 PM
None of these recent reports have even said it's being made by MS, other than Enric Alvarez being involved. And I believe Paul Gate himself said it's a surprise, and he was the first source about Castlevania 3DS.
If it's a surprise, it HAS to be IGA with a few other Konami veterans.
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Post by: Kingshango on May 22, 2012, 03:49:12 PM
lords 2 won't be released till November 2013

heard it here first!

Of course it wont, Konami would be braindead to put out Lords of Shadow 2 up against games such as

Assasinse Creed 3
Boarderlands 2
Resident Evil 6
Call of Duty: BLOPS2
Halo 4
Whatever first party that comes out for the Wii U

and many others. However I do see Mirror of Fate coming out this year.
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Post by: Munchy on May 22, 2012, 03:51:08 PM
None of these recent reports have even said it's being made by MS, other than Enric Alvarez being involved. And I believe Paul Gate himself said it's a surprise, and he was the first source about Castlevania 3DS.

Alvarez being involved was what made me assume it's MS again. But I guess we'll see what's up soon enough.

Also had a thought... It'd be hilarious and amazing if you had the option to use the camera to put a texture of your face on the rumored Belmont/Alucard characters.

Or a Mii. AND YOU... HITLER BELMONDO
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Post by: DragonSlayr81 on May 22, 2012, 03:57:25 PM
If it's a surprise, it HAS to be IGA with a few other Konami veterans.
If THAT turns out to be true, hell yeah, it's totally forgiven that we got a shitty 25th anniversary. Seeing Cox, IGA, with other veterans on board a CV project.... awesomeness! It would be Dream Team Castlevania(kinda like what happened with Chrono Trigger).
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Post by: VladCT on May 22, 2012, 04:01:50 PM
Also had a thought... It'd be hilarious and amazing if you had the option to use the camera to put a texture of your face on the rumored Belmont/Alucard characters.

Or a Mii. AND YOU... HITLER BELMONDO
LOL, kinda makes me want a Stalincard. XD
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Thomas Belmont on May 22, 2012, 04:18:17 PM
Iga and Cox. The two guys who fucked up the Castlevania story line. And you people are excited about them working together?
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Post by: Foffy on May 22, 2012, 04:20:24 PM
Iga and Cox. The two guys who fucked up the Castlevania story line. And you people are excited about them working together?

How can you fuck up what was nonsensical standalone games in the first place? Previous to them they were just games with no connections.
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Post by: shelverton. on May 22, 2012, 04:22:01 PM
Iga and Cox. The two guys who fucked up the Castlevania story line. And you people are excited about them working together?

Are you ever happy about anything? I'm looking forward to the day I see you write something positive :D I mean, you still hang around these forums, so it can't be all that bad?
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Post by: Profbeanburrito on May 22, 2012, 04:24:52 PM
I'm guessing that Cox and Alvarez are heading the project but having a different team on Mirror of Fate while the LoS team are working on the LoS sequel
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: shelverton. on May 22, 2012, 04:27:23 PM
I'm guessing that Cox and Alvarez are heading the project but having a different team on Mirror of Fate while the LoS team are working on the LoS sequel

Still, the comment on Cox twitter read "Wrong end of the stick" when asked about Mirror of Fate. One could argue that the "stick" is the Castlevania franchise as a whole, with Cox at one end and IGA on the other. But that's just my interpretation and I'm notorious for being wrong  ;)
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Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on May 22, 2012, 04:28:31 PM
Iga and Cox. The two guys who fucked up the Castlevania story line. And you people are excited about them working together?

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-shT-_n5j0uI/T3Ys7bPZNqI/AAAAAAAAK3c/wgW-1h6MWXQ/s1600/what%2Bto%2Byou%2Bmean%2Byou%2Bpeople.jpg)
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Post by: Kamirine on May 22, 2012, 04:33:36 PM
Still, the comment on Cox twitter read "Wrong end of the stick" when asked about Mirror of Fate. One could argue that the "stick" is the Castlevania franchise as a whole, with Cox at one end and IGA on the other. But that's just my interpretation and I'm notorious for being wrong  ;)

No, I'm right there with you. It would actually make a lot of sense given what he said.
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Post by: Kaori on May 22, 2012, 04:37:00 PM
I'm gone for a day and this explodes into 48 pages?  :o

Well, nice to at least see this is real. Like I said, I won't be making any judgements until after I see more. However...what is this about LoS2 being for PS3, Xbox360, Vita, and WiiU? Well, time for me to read through some of these posts.  :P
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Post by: Aridale on May 22, 2012, 04:46:08 PM
no way in hell Im readin all these posts! a new cv? its legit? *goes off to google*
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Post by: Thomas Belmont on May 22, 2012, 04:48:22 PM
How can you fuck up what was nonsensical standalone games in the first place? Previous to them they were just games with no connections.

What are you talking about? Iga got rid of the Belmonts, with NO explanation, made it possible for anybody, with any type of weapon, to defeat Dracula, "Japanised" the series, turned Dracula into a Japanese teenager, made pointless and lackluster sequels, reused sprites way too often, created Judgement, etc, etc.

And then you have Cox, who I can't really get too angry at, yet, since he only released one game in the series. However, almost everybody here whines and complains about how they  feel that he didn't make a proper Castlevania, yet they are now totally excited that he is returning ....and maybe even now working with Iga.
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Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on May 22, 2012, 04:50:10 PM
I think your 'almost everybody here' is vastly miscalculated.
Just because some people post more about something doesn't mean the entire forum populace feels as they do.
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Post by: Thomas Belmont on May 22, 2012, 04:50:33 PM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-shT-_n5j0uI/T3Ys7bPZNqI/AAAAAAAAK3c/wgW-1h6MWXQ/s1600/what%2Bto%2Byou%2Bmean%2Byou%2Bpeople.jpg)


That made me laugh. Thanks.
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Post by: beingthehero on May 22, 2012, 04:53:05 PM
What are you talking about? Iga got rid of the Belmonts, with NO explanation, made it possible for anybody, with any type of weapon, to defeat Dracula, "Japanised" the series, turned Dracula into a Japanese teenager, made pointless and lackluster sequels, reused sprites way too often, created Judgement, etc, etc.

"Random nobodies" means Hector and Shanoa- one guy whom Death states is imbued with the power of Dracula and fights a possessed man, and a woman who uses Dracula's own power to destroy him. Not exactly what I'd call nobodies.

Then there is PoR where you play as Jonathan, who is part Belmont. Not exactly without precedent, given Bloodlines. Gasp, you can even beat Dracula in that game as Eric LeCarde. That means fuckin' Tomikatsu Kirita not only shoehorned not-real Belmonts into the game, he even made it so that Eric could kill Dracula. I knew that Tomikatsu was the Castlevania producer who had it out for the Belmonts!

Then there are the Sorrow games, where you...play as Dracula and fight cultists.

So that leaves Leon Belmont and Juste Belmont.

Basically, the whole 'IGA hates Belmonts/whips/MEEEEEEEE' is unfiltered dumb filtered through a ton of dumb.
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Post by: Thomas Belmont on May 22, 2012, 05:05:18 PM
@beingthehero:

It's ridiculous that Hector, Shanoa, and Soma even exist. Why the hell would Dracula and Death need "Devil Forgemasters?" And why do they not need the Vampire Killer to kill Dracula? And what is the point of Shanoa, in a game filled with Belmonts? And if the Belmonts can't use the Vampire Killer, which is never even given a reason, then why wasn't the playable character a Morris? And don't even get me started on Soma.....a Japanese kid, who just so happens to be the reincarnated Dracula.
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Post by: beingthehero on May 22, 2012, 05:10:57 PM
Also Castlevania has (http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/13100000/Richter-in-Rondo-of-blood-richter-belmont-13184454-369-378.jpg) never been (http://www.castlevaniadungeon.net/characters/bartley.gif) "Japanised (http://attackedbygorillas.com/files/image/axel/cvl-sonia.gif) prior to IGA? Really? Pray tell, what series have you been playing?

Also Devil Forgemasters created monsters for Dracula. Dracula only possessed Isaac, in which Dracula even conveniently states "THE TRANSFORMATION....WAS IT NOT COMPLETE?!" If you recall, Hector told Julia he felt it was suicide to go into Dracula's Castle without the VK, but succeeded anyways because it wasn't really Dracula.

Also OoE occurred prior to Bloodlines, when the Morrises had the whip instead of the Belmonts. The whole 'Morrises have taken over for the Belmonts' was established in 1994. Fuckin' Time-Travel IGA, am I right?

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Post by: Ring_of_Varda on May 22, 2012, 05:27:13 PM
is /vg/ the source that is saying potential screens friday? i think im about to start drooling with all of this new info.
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Post by: CastleDan on May 22, 2012, 05:33:43 PM
It would be so funny and sad if the graphics ended up looking so awful and we were like.......

Son of a bbiiiiiiiiiiiiiyatchhh
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Post by: beingthehero on May 22, 2012, 05:34:24 PM
is /vg/ the source that is saying potential screens friday? i think im about to start drooling with all of this new info.

I think so. I'm honestly psyched, whether it's 2D or 3D. I'd like to see it produced by IGA, directed by Alvarez, and using much darker enemy designs, and featuring Simon or Trevor.
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Post by: cecil-kain on May 22, 2012, 05:35:09 PM
Thomas,

The Belmonts' absence started with Bloodlines prior to IGA's involvement.  I agree the series got somewhat muddied with too many non-Belmont side-stories, but working within Castlevania's limited timeline was a legitimate challenge --that's why a reboot was simply inevitable.  At least half of the criticism toward IGA is just as easily directed at Konami itself --things like recycled code and graphic content has a great deal to do with limited budgets and resources...

As for Cox, I think his only real problem is pompous PR tact.  IGA was much more down to Earth and humble about his work and toward his audience.
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Post by: Thomas Belmont on May 22, 2012, 05:40:23 PM
Also Castlevania has (http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/13100000/Richter-in-Rondo-of-blood-richter-belmont-13184454-369-378.jpg) never been (http://www.castlevaniadungeon.net/characters/bartley.gif) "Japanised (http://attackedbygorillas.com/files/image/axel/cvl-sonia.gif) prior to IGA? Really? Pray tell, what series have you been playing?

Also Devil Forgemasters created monsters for Dracula. Dracula only possessed Isaac, in which Dracula even conveniently states "THE TRANSFORMATION....WAS IT NOT COMPLETE?!" If you recall, Hector told Julia he felt it was suicide to go into Dracula's Castle without the VK, but succeeded anyways because it wasn't really Dracula.

Also OoE occurred prior to Bloodlines, when the Morrises had the whip instead of the Belmonts. The whole 'Morrises have taken over for the Belmonts' was established in 1994. Fuckin' Time-Travel IGA, am I right?

Why would Dracula, the "Dark Lord," and/or Death need anybody to create monsters for them in the first place? And if he wasn't really Dracula then who was he? He sure seemed like Dracula to me. He even transformed in to his "human" and monster forms. He returned by possessing Isaac.

What does Bloodlines releasing in 1994 have to do with anything? I asked why a Morris wasn't around for OoE. If OoE takes place before Bloodlines then why wasn't a Belmont a playable character? If they can't use the Vampire Killer then why was there never a reason given? Or better yet, why even make a game in that time period? Why make a game after the Belmonts but before the Morris'? It's not like this game progressed the story line at all. It just added more redundant characters.

And no, Iga is not a time traveler......he just introduced them to the series. :rollseyes:
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Post by: e105beta on May 22, 2012, 05:40:32 PM
@beingthehero:

It's ridiculous that Hector, Shanoa, and Soma even exist. Why the hell would Dracula and Death need "Devil Forgemasters?" And why do they not need the Vampire Killer to kill Dracula? And what is the point of Shanoa, in a game filled with Belmonts? And if the Belmonts can't use the Vampire Killer, which is never even given a reason, then why wasn't the playable character a Morris? And don't even get me started on Soma.....a Japanese kid, who just so happens to be the reincarnated Dracula.

Why would Dracula, the "Dark Lord," and/or Death need anybody to create monsters for them in the first place? And if he wasn't really Dracula then who was he? He sure seemed like Dracula to me. He even transformed in to his "human" and monster forms. He returned by possessing Isaac.

What does Bloodlines releasing in 1994 have to do with anything? I asked why a Morris wasn't around for OoE. If OoE takes place before Bloodlines then why wasn't a Belmont a playable character? If they can't use the Vampire Killer then why was there never a reason given? Or better yet, why even make a game in that time period? Why make a game after the Belmonts but before the Morris'? It's not like this game progressed the story line at all. It just added more redundant characters.

And no, Iga is not a time traveler......he just introduced them to the series. :rollseyes:

Take a chill pill.

For good or ill, the characters are all explained in universe, so the question of "why?" becomes completely moot.

Signs point to a Belmont filled future on the Castlevania horizon, so instead of moaning about what has been, look forward to what is to come.
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Post by: Thomas Belmont on May 22, 2012, 05:50:54 PM
Take a chill pill.

For good or ill, the characters are all explained in universe, so the question of "why?" becomes completely moot.

Signs point to a Belmont filled future on the Castlevania horizon, so instead of moaning about what has been, look forward to what is to come.

You know what it is? I grew up with the series since the original on the NES and seeing it take so many bad turns, mostly because of Iga, really aggravates me. This series has had so much wasted potential since the beginning.

I actually enjoy Iga's games. It's his story telling that I despise. I feel story lines are very important.
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Post by: Maedhros on May 22, 2012, 05:55:28 PM
Castlevania never had an history in the first place. Unless you count the manuals and the titles screens as "history". Then Sonic has a big history too.

Franchises like Castlevania, Megaman, Sonic, Mario... they were NEVER meant to be played because of their stories. They were kept simple for a reason.
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Post by: e105beta on May 22, 2012, 06:02:23 PM
You know what it is? I grew up with the series since the original on the NES and seeing it take so many bad turns, mostly because of Iga, really aggravates me. This series has had so much wasted potential since the beginning.

I actually enjoy Iga's games. It's his story telling that I despise. I feel story lines are very important.

Storylines ARE important, and going forward I would love to see some great story telling from the series. But in series that has never HAD good storytelling, it's not exactly a fair accusation.

Not to say that I LIKE IGA's storytelling, and I'm assuming we probably agree on things like anime art direction, Soma being an arguably unsatisfying finish to the Dracula timeline, and too many side stories, but like I said, what's done is done. Our time would probably be a lot better spent with hope for the future rather than rants about the past.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Thomas Belmont on May 22, 2012, 06:05:57 PM
Castlevania never had an history in the first place. Unless you count the manuals and the titles screens as "history". Them Sonic has a big history too.

Franchises like Castlevania, Megaman, Sonic, Mario... they were NEVER meant to be played because of their stories. They were kept simple for a reason.


Sure, Castlevania had a history. A family of vampire hunters, using a whip, go on a journey to defeat Dracula every hundred years. Maybe in the beginning these games weren't meant to be played for their stories but games, like everything else, evolve. What's wrong with wanting a good story in a form of entertainment?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Kaori on May 22, 2012, 06:07:28 PM
Alright, now that I went through all the posts...which I may have missed something because I started skimming through some of the pages. So let me see if I understood all this cause this was a lot of information to take in:

Rumors:
Possibly Alucard and/or Trevor in the game?
Sidescrolling
Non-linear
2D game?
Some wolf poster (which is part of a bigger poster) possibly being related to this game (possibly being Alucard?)

Comfirmed:
Official title - Mirror of Fate (was Faith the last time I was on here)
3DS game
Developer unknown

To be honest, it doesn't sound that bad so far. However, this really isn't enough information to say much yet, of course. However..I'm actually excited now instead of hesitant about this game. I may not have liked LoS, but I'm pretty excited of MoF as of right now.

Especially if all of this is true, then I'm kind of excited:
http://paulgalenetwork.com/home/2012/05/21/its-time-to-share-the-wii-u3ds-game-that-paul-gale-network-hinted-at-2011s-final-hour-castlevania-mirror-of-fate/ (http://paulgalenetwork.com/home/2012/05/21/its-time-to-share-the-wii-u3ds-game-that-paul-gale-network-hinted-at-2011s-final-hour-castlevania-mirror-of-fate/)
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Post by: shelverton. on May 22, 2012, 06:15:24 PM
I sometimes wish that Castlevania would've kept things really simple, story-wise, like in the old days. There's a fantastic atmosphere in games like Super Castlevania 4 because the game is so mysterious and "low-key" (dunno if that's the word I'm looking for here).

There are modern games like Demon's/Dark Souls that handle storytelling in a very satisfying way (IMO) because they're so damn mysterious. Castlevania could've stayed like that - silent, eerie and mysterious - but it kind of went in the opposite direction instead. But I don't really mind it. I play 100% for the gameplay, and the story is always at least passable. I think IGA had great intentions with his storytelling, trying to make Castlevania more than what it once was. I don't blame him even though I sometimes wish he'd done things differently.
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Post by: CastleDan on May 22, 2012, 06:18:36 PM
You know our rumor source website called 4chan.....has an error message when I try to go to it now...WHAT'S THE DEAL?!
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Post by: Maedhros on May 22, 2012, 06:21:09 PM
I sometimes wish that Castlevania would've kept things really simple, story-wise, like in the old days. There's a fantastic atmosphere in games like Super Castlevania 4 because the game is so mysterious and "low-key" (dunno if that's the word I'm looking for here).

There are modern games like Demon's/Dark Souls that handle storytelling in a very satisfying way (IMO) because they're so damn mysterious. Castlevania could've stayed like that - silent, eerie and mysterious - but it kind of went in the opposite direction instead. But I don't really mind it. I play 100% for the gameplay, and the story is always at least passable. I think IGA had great intentions with his storytelling, trying to make Castlevania more than what it once was. I don't blame him even though I sometimes wish he'd done things differently.
I love Demons/Dark Souls. It reminds me of CV a lot more than LoS actually, specially the monsters and how the story is very simple. The difficult is fair too, just like the first Castlevania.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Keldor on May 22, 2012, 06:27:43 PM
Finally something to look forward too in the world of vania. I feel like I've been lost in a desert and dying of thirst, I just found an almost empty canteen and got a few drops of refreshing water out of it........too much?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Sumac on May 22, 2012, 06:30:33 PM
Thomas Belmont, I totally agree with your points and I stated them here many times before. But, as time has proved, people who approach so "beloved" IGAvanias with legal criticism will not find an understanding here. We will be trolled and insolently insulted as if we dared to commit an atrocious sin of pointing an obvious flaws that people tend ignore because of their commitment to those games. Such is the way of the "fans".
Don't mind them. Let them exist in their reality where flaws doesn't matter. It doesn't change the fact that those flaws do exist. Some people accept them, some do not.

Anyway, on topic, I believe that we will see some screenshots and "in detail" reports of the games before E3. There is too much information going around, signifying that game(s) are already have been seen and usually it is a sure sigh that at some point someone will break the silence and gives us more details. Well, at least I think how this situation will develop. Besides, there is rumored Nintendo Power issue, so even if "inside sources" will not leak more details, maybe NP will provide more information.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: shelverton. on May 22, 2012, 06:31:52 PM
I love Demons/Dark Souls. It reminds me of CV a lot more than LoS actually, specially the monsters and how the story is very simple. The difficult is fair too, just like the first Castlevania.

I actually screamed "THIS IS NOT FAIR!!" when I was killed for the 1000th time in Blight Town, Dark Souls, lol! But I agree, these games are difficult mostly because the player is not skilled enough yet, much like the original Castlevania.
Another thing I loved about both games were the level design. Some of the environments feels like "real" places, to the point where I forgot I was even playing a game. I was THERE.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Thomas Belmont on May 22, 2012, 06:37:46 PM
Thomas Belmont, I totally agree with your points and I stated them here many times before. But, as time has proved, people who approach so "beloved" IGAvanias with legal criticism will not find an understanding here. We will be trolled and insolently insulted as if we dared to commit an atrocious sin of pointing an obvious flaws that people tend ignore because of their commitment to those games. Such is the way of the "fans".
Don't mind them. Let them exist in their reality where flaws doesn't matter. It doesn't change the fact that those flaws do exist. Some people accept them, some do not.

Hey, at least we have each other! 8)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on May 22, 2012, 06:37:46 PM
Thomas Belmont, I totally agree with your points and I stated them here many times before. But, as time has proved, people who approach so "beloved" IGAvanias with legal criticism will not find an understanding here. We will be trolled and insolently insulted as if we dared to commit an atrocious sin of pointing an obvious flaws that people tend ignore because of their commitment to those games. Such is the way of the "fans".
Don't mind them. Let them exist in their reality where flaws doesn't matter. It doesn't change the fact that those flaws do exist. Some people accept them, some do not.

I am disturbed about the way you talk about the forum populace, and I don't think that what you're saying helps the situation at all.
It's like "Don't mind these people, they are morons.  But we tolerate them because we're higher beings.  **adjusts monocle**".

Then again, perhaps I'm misconstruing your tone, but considering you're the one with the "Watched" status, maybe I'm on to something.

I will advise everyone who employs these tactics to curb that behavior.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: e105beta on May 22, 2012, 06:44:19 PM
I am disturbed about the way you talk about the forum populace, and I don't think that what you're saying helps the situation at all.
It's like "Don't mind these people, they are morons.  But we tolerate them because we're higher beings.  **adjusts monocle**".

Then again, perhaps I'm misconstruing your tone, but considering you're the one with the "Watched" status, maybe I'm on to something.

I will advise everyone who employs these tactics to curb that behavior.

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Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: shelverton. on May 22, 2012, 06:51:14 PM
Thomas Belmont, I totally agree with your points and I stated them here many times before. But, as time has proved, people who approach so "beloved" IGAvanias with legal criticism will not find an understanding here. We will be trolled and insolently insulted as if we dared to commit an atrocious sin of pointing an obvious flaws that people tend ignore because of their commitment to those games. Such is the way of the "fans".
Don't mind them. Let them exist in their reality where flaws doesn't matter. It doesn't change the fact that those flaws do exist. Some people accept them, some do not.

Or maybe it works both ways? I've been trolled for liking IGA games in the past, much like you've been trolled for disliking them. What's the difference? Example; I love Dawn of Sorrow. Many people have been telling me that the game is seriously flawed. What am I supposed to do with that information? I mean, I still love it. People can accuse me of having bad taste in video games, I don't mind that, but certainly not that I am wrong for liking it, which has been the case a few times.

Well well. Enough of this.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: knightmere on May 22, 2012, 06:57:02 PM
I love Demons/Dark Souls. It reminds me of CV a lot more than LoS actually, specially the monsters and how the story is very simple. The difficult is fair too, just like the first Castlevania.

Yeah but the Demon/Dark Souls games have like no music whatsover so that won't do for CV.  Castlevania games need to have an awesome soundtrack. I can agree that the gameplay is much closer to CV than LoS is.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: shelverton. on May 22, 2012, 07:02:55 PM
Yeah but the Demon/Dark Souls games have like no music whatsover so that won't do for CV.  Castlevania games need to have an awesome soundtrack. I can agree that the gameplay is much closer to CV than LoS is.

This song, however, is AWESOME. There's something almost Castlevaniaish beginning at 0:53. Or maybe not. But still:

Dark Souls OST - Taurus Demon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzWFWCH_lTE#ws)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Maedhros on May 22, 2012, 07:19:24 PM
Yeah but the Demon/Dark Souls games have like no music whatsover so that won't do for CV.  Castlevania games need to have an awesome soundtrack. I can agree that the gameplay is much closer to CV than LoS is.
The OST isn't like Castlevania, but it's good for the game, like LoS. I don't like to listen the music outside the game though... just like LoS.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: e105beta on May 22, 2012, 07:38:50 PM
This song, however, is AWESOME. There's something almost Castlevaniaish beginning at 0:53. Or maybe not. But still:

Dark Souls OST - Taurus Demon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzWFWCH_lTE#ws)

I wouldn't mind the next Castlevania OST being like that. Nice balance of melody and orchestral mood.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Thomas Belmont on May 22, 2012, 07:40:23 PM

That made me laugh. Thanks.


Really? I got -2 for saying that the pic Jorge posted made me laugh? No, the "Respect" point system isn't broken at all.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on May 22, 2012, 07:52:29 PM
You just got +2 for complaining about it.
There's balance in nature.

Seriously guys, Youtube has the same system.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Thomas Belmont on May 22, 2012, 08:08:00 PM
Seriously guys, Youtube has the same system.


Doesn't make it right. Besides, liking videos on Youtube serves a purpose.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 22, 2012, 08:45:56 PM

Really? I got -2 for saying that the pic Jorge posted made me laugh? No, the "Respect" point system isn't broken at all.
And now you are loved too!

Why does no one love me :'(
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on May 22, 2012, 08:46:31 PM
Oh well, it's not going away.
For every one guy who hates it, there are nine who like it.
It was suggested by enough people.

We're veering off topic.  Let's get back to talking about the games, please.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: e105beta on May 22, 2012, 08:48:00 PM
And now you are loved too!

Why does no one love me :'(

I love you
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: CastleDan on May 22, 2012, 08:48:27 PM
Oh well, it's not going away.
For every one guy who hates it, there are nine who like it.
It was suggested by enough people.

We're veering off topic.  Let's get back to talking about the games, please.
I just wish we had ACTUAL confirmations.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Thomas Belmont on May 22, 2012, 08:53:09 PM
I just wish we had ACTUAL confirmations.

I can't wait either. I kind of wish this info wasn't leaked though. Imagine how awesome of a surprise it would have been at E3.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: cecil-kain on May 22, 2012, 08:54:14 PM
Is anyone else concerned about the camera/mirror thing being just another tacky gimmick?  I still loathe DoS's Magic Seals...
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Thomas Belmont on May 22, 2012, 08:55:55 PM
Is anyone else concerned about the camera/mirror thing being just another tacky gimmick?  I still loath DoS's Magic Seals...

I thought the same thing when I first read about that.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: e105beta on May 22, 2012, 08:59:38 PM
Is anyone else concerned about the camera/mirror thing being just another tacky gimmick?  I still loathe DoS's Magic Seals...

Definitely.

For one, if IGA's really involved, I don't really want him pulling his "Ohoho, the game has a mirror gimmick, so the new main character is going to be Mirror Belmont who fights with his mirror image, Mirrorcard" I mean really, adapt the gimmick to fit the world, not the other way around.

For two, I don't see how camera's and Castlevania go together at all.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Maedhros on May 22, 2012, 09:01:47 PM
Definitely.

For one, if IGA's really involved, I don't really want him pulling his "Ohoho, the game has a mirror gimmick, so the new main character is going to be Mirror Belmont who fights with his mirror image, Mirrorcard" I mean really, adapt the gimmick to fit the world, not the other way around.

For two, I don't see how camera's and Castlevania go together at all.
Let's see if it's Cox who did the gimmick and the comments about it then.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: e105beta on May 22, 2012, 09:04:43 PM
Let's see if it's Cox who did the gimmick and the comments about it then.

You just won't let up will you?

If Cox makes a shitty camera gimmick, I'll give him crap about it too. But so far he has not, so all I get to talk about when I bitch about gimmicks is IGA.

EDIT: Just realized how dumb that statement was.

CORRECTION: If Enrique makes a shitty camera gimmick, I'll give him crap about it too. But so far he has not, so all I get to talk about when I bitch about gimmicks is IGA.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Dengo vlad tepes on May 22, 2012, 09:05:53 PM
castle mirrors ! don't trust mirrors ! do love mirrors ! say i'm beautiful in front of mirrors !

i'm so excited to see mirrors ! , i feel like a good new idea is coming through these mirrors !
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 22, 2012, 09:07:02 PM
There's a fine line between intrusive gimmick and innovative feature.
I hope this time it stays on the right side.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Munchy on May 22, 2012, 09:21:02 PM
The camera usage does definitely sound like an IGA thing. But for me the excitement is, "2D game! With co-op! Kinda like the old games! Oh, and there's some camera thingy too but 2D!!!"

Of course, there's still the possibility that this is simply all the elaborate work of a top secret troll network and Konami actually has nothing for E3 besides Revengeance. Which would be incredibly tragic.

Not to mention, if this does turn out to be IGA's game, I'm not exactly hopeful that Konami's going to give him a lot of budget to work with. Because, well, they're Konami.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Dengo vlad tepes on May 22, 2012, 09:23:12 PM
I want castlevania anyway ...
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 22, 2012, 09:24:17 PM
Of course, there's still the possibility that this is simply all the elaborate work of a top secret troll network and Konami actually has nothing for E3 besides Revengeance. Which would be incredibly tragic.
That would be
(http://i.minus.com/i9ltxQygP1zHE.gif)

Not to mention, if this does turn out to be IGA's game, I'm not exactly hopeful that Konami's going to give him a lot of budget to work with. Because, well, they're Konami.
Is it too much wishful thinking if we hope that being under Kojima Productions seal it gets a little, just a little more money enough to make it good? I hope so!



P.S: I love you guys

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 :D
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: e105beta on May 22, 2012, 09:24:55 PM
The camera usage does definitely sound like an IGA thing. But for me the excitement is, "2D game! With co-op! Kinda like the old games! Oh, and there's some camera thingy too but 2D!!!"

Of course, there's still the possibility that this is simply all the elaborate work of a top secret troll network and Konami actually has nothing for E3 besides Revengeance. Which would be incredibly tragic.

Not to mention, if this does turn out to be IGA's game, I'm not exactly hopeful that Konami's going to give him a lot of budget to work with. Because, well, they're Konami.

If Cox and Enrique are related to it at all, I'd wager Konami will give the project the funds it needs, seeing as there's nothing coming out of Konami right now besides Revengence.

And Revengence looks terrible.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Neobelmont on May 22, 2012, 09:25:28 PM
With all this mirror stuff I just want to say this

Cough ahem!!!

Mirror mirror on the wall who is bitching and moaning out of them all?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 22, 2012, 09:28:33 PM
Quote
And Revengence looks terrible.
Terrible Metal Gear Solid, yep. Terrible Platinum Games action game? Such a thing doesn't even exist   8)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Munchy on May 22, 2012, 09:29:55 PM
Mirror mirror on the wall who is bitching and moaning out of them all?

Dracula. I'm sure he's not at all happy about waking up to yet another face-whipping.

Goddammit Konami, do another live conference!
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: e105beta on May 22, 2012, 09:31:03 PM
Terrible Metal Gear Solid, yep. Terrible Platinum Games action game? Such a thing doesn't even exist   8)

So far.

What I wanted was an innovative Metal Gear Solid game with a new unique combat system.

What I'm getting is Raiden May Cry
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Munchy on May 22, 2012, 09:37:02 PM
So far.

What I wanted was an innovative Metal Gear Solid game with a new unique combat system.

What I'm getting is Raiden May Cry

While I'm highly anticipating Revengeance, I totally sympathize with your complaint of "Why is my favorite game series suddenly changing audience/genre?" It's stupid and companies need to learn to make new IPs.

I kind of wish Revengeance were a Nanobreaker reboot actually.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 22, 2012, 09:37:44 PM
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I kind of wish Revengeance were a Nanobreaker reboot actually.
I second this.
What I'm getting is Raiden May Cry
Raidenetta! (Dance number confirmed?)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Maedhros on May 22, 2012, 09:39:38 PM
While I'm highly anticipating Revengeance, I totally sympathize with your complaint of "Why is my favorite game series suddenly changing audience/genre?" It's stupid and companies need to learn to make new IPs.

I kind of wish Revengeance were a Nanobreaker reboot actually.
That's why the game is a spin-off. I consider only the numbered titles/remakes the ones canonical do the series.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: beingthehero on May 22, 2012, 09:41:10 PM
I liked the game better when it was a watermelon-cutting simulator.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: e105beta on May 22, 2012, 09:43:18 PM
While I'm highly anticipating Revengeance, I totally sympathize with your complaint of "Why is my favorite game series suddenly changing audience/genre?" It's stupid and companies need to learn to make new IPs.

I kind of wish Revengeance were a Nanobreaker reboot actually.

I would probably be just as hyped for Revengence if you replaced every robot ninja with a half-demon and every grunt with a demon.

It's basically going to be the same game gameplay-wise, so I don't see why they did it like this
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Neobelmont on May 22, 2012, 09:44:21 PM


I kind of wish Revengeance were a Nanobreaker reboot actually.

I said this way back, but I would also want a reboot of getsu fuma he deserves one and the time is ripe for a samurai/ninja theme game with ninja gaiden 3 failing from what I hear and no onimusha for lords knows how long. A fuma remake  would be incredible.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 22, 2012, 09:52:10 PM
What do you think about reviving getsu-Fuma as a prominent character in the Castlevania series and then giving him his spin-off?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Munchy on May 22, 2012, 09:58:28 PM
What do you think about reviving getsu-Fuma as a prominent character in the Castlevania series and then giving him his spin-off?

I've wondered about this. I imagine it'd be done like Snatcher's relationship to the Metal Gear series, or Commando/Mercs to Bionic Commando; they're in the same continuity but separated by some unknown time gap. (In Getsu Fuuma's case, I think it takes place some time ridiculously far in the future.)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 22, 2012, 09:59:17 PM
Guys... Kojima is tweeting about a "Friday event"

Could the rumor about new info on friday be TRUE?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Neobelmont on May 22, 2012, 10:01:22 PM
What do you think about reviving getsu-Fuma as a prominent character in the Castlevania series and then giving him his spin-off?

Anything, but I cannot see It would be at a very certain place in time seeing that in the early 1600's japan went under sakoku maybe if a belmont either one ended up in japan like the one guy in shogun by james clavell (really need to read that book again) by accident, or if there was a storm brewing and belmont needed to be there and stuff or the other way around, or belmont was with the Portuguese to give muskets away. I see it as somewhat hard to do. But either way it needs to happen.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Dengo vlad tepes on May 22, 2012, 10:08:00 PM
Guys... Kojima is tweeting about a "Friday event"

Could the rumor about new info on friday be TRUE?

i hope its not a friday-breakfast lol thats what he's tweeting lately his food ...

btw it could be true cuz yesterday he tweeted that he will show us MGR before e3 and maybe he will show us something else about castlevania if he's still working with MS
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: JR on May 22, 2012, 10:55:51 PM
I said this way back, but I would also want a reboot of getsu fuma he deserves one and the time is ripe for a samurai/ninja theme game with ninja gaiden 3 failing from what I hear and no onimusha for lords knows how long. A fuma remake  would be incredible.

I would love to see it...I would love to play the original, actually (I may actually wait to buy an AV Famicom and play this then, since I also plan on getting Akumajo Densetsu somewhere down the road).



Regarding the rumors, I'm loving what I'm hearing, but the more and more that comes in, the more it sounds way too good to be true. I just hope this isn't the Complete Chronicles fiasco all over again. It's still hard for me to believe that Konami would go from not even a whisper one year, to rolling out the red carpet the very next. But hell, I can't even begin to understand what they're doing these days, so whatever.

DAMMITITSONLYBEENADAYANDIMSICKOFWAITING ARRRGGHH!!!  :-X
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Koutei on May 22, 2012, 11:19:00 PM
Guys... Kojima is tweeting about a "Friday event"

Could the rumor about new info on friday be TRUE?
Yes, Kojima production performs an event on Friday.

ZONE OF THE ENDERS HD (HAIDARA) NIGHT: Quickest in the Space -ReBOOT Preview- (http://www.konami.jp/kojima_pro/hd/zoe/index.html).

This is ZOE event. I don't think that Castlevania information disclosure occurs here.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: e105beta on May 22, 2012, 11:30:08 PM
Yes, Kojima production performs an event on Friday.

ZONE OF THE ENDERS HD (HAIDARA) NIGHT: Quickest in the Space -ReBOOT Preview- (http://www.konami.jp/kojima_pro/hd/zoe/index.html).

This is ZOE event. I don't think that Castlevania information disclosure occurs here.

Please tell me I'm not the only person getting sick of HD remakes.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Chernabogue on May 22, 2012, 11:41:16 PM
Less than 10 new pages in one night?

We're lacking rumors, press, 4chan, Paul Gale, and stuff, we're lacking rumors!! ^^

Anyway, this teaser from this Nintendo magazine could be what we're looking for.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: djrunza on May 23, 2012, 12:18:08 AM
AWESOOOOOOMMME~!!! This party is getting crazy! I am seriously super excited right now. JYEAH! \:D/
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: JR on May 23, 2012, 12:42:57 AM
Please tell me I'm not the only person getting sick of HD remakes.

Yeah, me too. Especially incomplete ones.

I guess they could be good for someone who's never played the games, but...
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ratty on May 23, 2012, 12:47:59 AM
Anything, but I cannot see It would be at a very certain place in time seeing that in the early 1600's japan went under sakoku maybe if a belmont either one ended up in japan like the one guy in shogun by james clavell (really need to read that book again) by accident, or if there was a storm brewing and belmont needed to be there and stuff or the other way around, or belmont was with the Portuguese to give muskets away. I see it as somewhat hard to do. But either way it needs to happen.

I think a Belmont sneaking in with missionaries would be the most likely scenario there. A monster hunter among monks lol.

As for Mirror of Fate I'll just wait until the end of the console's lifecycle (as I almost always do) to pick up the 3DS if I get it. By then MoF and, if it's successful, a few sequels should be out.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Neobelmont on May 23, 2012, 01:42:30 AM
I think a Belmont sneaking in with missionaries would be the most likely scenario there. A monster hunter among monks lol.



Very true, how could I forget about the missionaries. Makes more sense than giving muskets to nobunaga ,but the ending could be very bloody with the persecutions of the japanese Christians and such would the fuma be an adversary or ally? Would there be bad blood between the Belmont clan and Fuma clan?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirishitan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirishitan)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Dengo vlad tepes on May 23, 2012, 01:46:21 AM
too bad i asked michiru yamani and she said to me she doesn't know anything about CV:HOF


http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/ab290/DENGO-ZERO/dammit.png (http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/ab290/DENGO-ZERO/dammit.png)

Now i'm so sure that we wont see her on castlevania never ... just dammit
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Neobelmont on May 23, 2012, 01:54:19 AM
too bad i asked michiru yamani and she said to me she doesn't know anything about CV:HOF


Now i'm so sure that we wont see her on castlevania never ... just dammit

If anything don't you think she needs a break from cv let her do something else that is how I see it.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Dengo vlad tepes on May 23, 2012, 01:57:31 AM
If anything don't you think she needs a break from cv let her do something else that is how I see it.

but i hope that break wont affect on her touches cuz skullgirls was her latest job and i bought the game just to listen to her songs but i got surprised the soundtracks wasn't that good .. it was just normal
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Neobelmont on May 23, 2012, 02:01:07 AM
but i hope that break wont affect on her touches cuz skullgirls was her latest job and i bought the game just to listen to her songs but i got surprised the soundtracks wasn't that good .. it was just normal

Really I have not heard her skullgirls soundtracts yet.In fact I am surprised she did the music for it or maybe I just forgot about it.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Dengo vlad tepes on May 23, 2012, 02:16:58 AM
Really I have not heard her skullgirls soundtracts yet.In fact I am surprised she did the music for it or maybe I just forgot about it.

Yep also she's the main composer to it and the soundtracks are nothing to Castlevania music
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: The Silverlord on May 23, 2012, 02:17:44 AM
The only thing at this stage worrying me with Mirror of Fate are these (very loose) rumours that it'll be cel-shaded (or amount to a cel-shaded intro).

I don’t know where I’m going with this, I could be worrying over nothing at all (and a false rumour).  What does anyone else thing of this, or care to speculate on which art style would be preferred for the game?

Castlevania games have had by nature bright, black-outlined and/or very cartoony or anime-like inspired sprites and backgrounds before, so what’s the problem?  I cannot shake my inner feeling that Castlevania should really try a less ‘perfected’ hand in the art stakes.  There’s too much work in some of the backgrounds of Ecclesia and Portrait, they appear too meticulous if you like, refined, polished, colourful.  Of course, it’s the nostalgia in me that secretly yearns something of a return to that palette of SCV4 or what even Belmont’s Revenge did from a creative point of view, really drab and at-times rough textures, rugged, crumbling terrains.

I’ve played the likes of Outland below, and the graphics feel fresh, modern and fantastic, but I cannot shake the feeling that it all becomes a bit bland and same-ish after a while.  Hard to put the finger on why exactly.  I'm just hard to please!

Order of Ecclesia
(http://www.horror-video-games.com/modules/WS_Comics/images/games_pic/order_of_ecclesia_xb8o.jpg)

Outland
(http://cdn0.spong.com/screen-shot/o/u/outland346080l/_-Outland-Xbox-360-_.jpg)

Super Meat Boy
(http://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb/GamesRadar/us/Games/S/Super%20Meat%20Boy/Bulk%20Viewers/PC%20Wii/2009-11-20/PCG208.pre_meat.pcsmb2--article_image.jpg)

Viewtiful Joe
(http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/article/567/567623/viewtiful-joe-2-20041119110027499.jpg)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: The Silverlord on May 23, 2012, 02:24:04 AM
too bad i asked michiru yamani and she said to me she doesn't know anything about CV:HOF

Now i'm so sure that we wont see her on castlevania never ... just dammit

Never say never.  And a possible Mirror of Fate: Dream Team Castlevania could still feature the likes of "Souji" Taro (SCIV) or Kinuyo Yamashita (I/III)!
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ratty on May 23, 2012, 03:53:18 AM
I can't see cel-shading as an automatic negative Silverlord. Some of my very favorite games use it. Mainly the original Sly Cooper trilogy which I love to pieces, they were able to create a wonderful unashamedly cartoony neo-art deco world with that. Complete with deliciously moody, deep-blue and black night levels at times.
So I think if the devs do go with Cel-shading for a Castlevania as long as the rest of the art direction works with it it shouldn't be a problem.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: jestercolony on May 23, 2012, 04:09:22 AM
Wow... Just wow? So, I haven't been around much and put myself in lurker status just to casually browse around and see whats new every once in awhile and I for one am honestly excited that two titles will be release of the franchise. Only one issue, why so much bitching over a Japanese man with a long shaggy beard who needs to wash his hair every once in awhile and a bald headed, beer drinking, tea sipping con-artist? Look - the point of a producer is to SELL the game, even if small little "Lies" are placed in to it. It's apart of the business, I assume some of you work or have worked in retail stales and marketing.

Secondly, why so much hatred for the game types? Screw you guys I'll stick to my good ol' NES classicvanias which more than stomp in the new age cycles of todays age :P (Jk!) Seriously, from what I've read - I look forward to seeing what Konami has plans to do with the series. Stop complaining about the "Hollywood" music score, I prefer to call it "New-age" classical. Stop screaming about the constant "Anime plot" and 'Cartoon' drawings, it was stated since day #1 of the art change from DoS's release is that IGA wanted to attract these two audience types -

A. Children/Teens
B.  Women

What is majority of the money making done via towards the entertainment industry?  What was stated above. Who cares if the plot was dumb downed and simplified - with a cheesy plot. Who cares if Zobek's narration for Gabriel's "Pain" is more based towards the original journal concept of Bram Stoker's Dracula. Wow, you guys scream too much, its worse than Final Fantasy 7 fanbois/girls....

It honestly embarrassed me to see this, for being a fan of the series since the 80s. Grow up and learn to see a series mature and take a new toll, its like people screaming about how metallica sold out after they simply cut their hair. -.-;

Either way, still love you dungeoneers <3
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: VladCT on May 23, 2012, 04:23:10 AM
Hey, bitching is guaranteed to happen in any given fandom. :P
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Nagumo on May 23, 2012, 04:54:02 AM
If both IGA and Cox are going to present this game I hope they are going to do a comedic duo act complete with eye poking and throwing pies.

The running gag would be that they both think of themselves as the producer of the Castlevania series while accusing the other of being a fraud.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Dengo vlad tepes on May 23, 2012, 04:58:35 AM
If both IGA and Cox are going to present this game I hope they are going to do a comedic duo act complete with eye poking and throwing pies.

The running gag would be that they both think of themselves as the producer of the Castlevania series while accusing the other of being a fraud.

It will be like ooh i see two castlevanias at one game , some levels will feel like los in 2D and some levels will feel like Igavanias so it will win both los fans and cv

guys who would agree to see CV:los presented in 2d ?

Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: whitedragon_nall on May 23, 2012, 05:44:10 AM
guys who would agree to see CV:los presented in 2d ?

I've always felt that LoI and CoD would've been MUCH better games if they were 2D. LoS is fine as a 3D game, but I could see it working as a 2D game as well.

Also, I don't know why, but I'm feeling REALLY optimistic about these rumors. They might not even be true. Maybe I'm just starving for some fun, 2D Castlevania. Either way, I'm just glad we *apparently* have something to look forward to.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Nagumo on May 23, 2012, 05:46:09 AM
Random comment from Paul Gale:

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More Castlevania is always a good thing in my book and with Mirror of Fate and Lords of Shadows 2 being spread out over 3DS, Wii U, and other platforms (for the latter of the two), it looks as though Konami is set out to please all of its different fans.

Or I'm just looking too much into this.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Kingshango on May 23, 2012, 06:00:07 AM
Random comment from Paul Gale:

Or I'm just looking too much into this.

Could it be possible that Konami and Mercurysteam took the criticism about Lords of shadow into account? And that the Facebook survey several months ago was not just a random survey but a way to get proper fan feedback on how to make future Castlevania games better?

Must. Not. Get. Giddy.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: uzo on May 23, 2012, 06:24:10 AM
Of course it wont, Konami would be braindead to put out Lords of Shadow 2 up against games such as

Assasinse Creed 3
Boarderlands 2
Resident Evil 6
Call of Duty: BLOPS2
Halo 4
Whatever first party that comes out for the Wii U

and many others. However I do see Mirror of Fate coming out this year.

Are you sure? Have you seen Konami's absolutely insane marketing and release practices lately? See also Blades of Time and releasing 3 full priced Silent Hill games in a month's time. giving no press to just about anything anymore that isn't MGS, and not even properly stocking stores with their own damn games on release.

I can't shake the feeling that somehow Konami doesn't want money anymore. They want an utterly failed business instead. At the rate they're going, I wouldn't be surprised to see them release it the same day as Halo 4.

That example aside, I don't realistically expect to see MoF out this year at all.



Also to correct some confusion I saw back many pages;

Yamane Michiru does NOT work 'for' Konami anymore. She is currently free lance, and takes any job she sees fit (typically includes any job you can get). In fact, Michiru working on Skull Girls has NOTHING to do with Konami being the publisher (important note; not the developer) for Skull Girls. Revenge Labs had approached her on their own asking if she'd be interested.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: beingthehero on May 23, 2012, 06:26:22 AM
To be honest, having MercurySteam do the 3D titles like IGA handles the 2D ones would be the best course. It pleases everyone.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 23, 2012, 06:32:13 AM
To be honest, having MercurySteam do the 3D titles like IGA handles the 2D ones would be the best course. It pleases everyone.

 I agree with that. IGA can't make a good 3D Castlevania game, but he has experience with 2D graphics, unlike Cox who he is more than good with 3D graphics, so i think that would be the best solution for all the fans of the serries.

  That way, we can have both 2D titles, for the old canon along with 3D titles for the new canon.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: CastleDan on May 23, 2012, 06:39:54 AM
I agree with that. IGA can't make a good 3D Castlevania game, but he has experience with 2D graphics, unlike Cox who he is more than good with 3D graphics, so i think that would be the best solution for all the fans of the serries.

  That way, we can have both 2D titles, for the old canon along with 3D titles for the new canon.

At the same time the sidescrolling moments in Los were breathtaking and had nice platforming so I wouldn't put it past that team to do something incredible with it. If they can do great 3d design I'm sure they could come up with 2d.

(http://oi42.tinypic.com/fmqpw1.jpg)

(http://brutalgamer.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/LOSplat.jpg)

Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 23, 2012, 06:53:01 AM
At the same time the sidescrolling moments in Los were breathtaking and had nice platforming so I wouldn't put it past that team to do something incredible with it. If they can do great 3d design I'm sure they could come up with 2d.

(http://oi42.tinypic.com/fmqpw1.jpg)

(http://brutalgamer.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/LOSplat.jpg)

Perhaps, but since they are working mainly with 3D, it would be a waste of time to put them into making a 2D game, when you already have someone with the knowledge, but that's my opinion.

 Anyway, while DoS was mediocre game, at least for me, still i love the 3D graphics for the final castle area, the pinnacle. I would love to see a new 2D Castlevania game, using that style for the enviroments/backgrounds graphics.

(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/P5iPHgqiivg/0.jpg)
I couldn't find a better quality image.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: CastleDan on May 23, 2012, 06:55:40 AM
Perhaps, but since they are working mainly with 3D, it would be a waste of time to put them into making a 2D game, when you already have someone with the knowledge, but that's my opinion.

 Anyway, while DoS was mediocre game, at least for me, still i love the 3D graphics for the final castle area, the pinnacle. I would love to see a new 2D Castlevania game, using that style for the enviroments/backgrounds graphics.

(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/P5iPHgqiivg/0.jpg)
I couldn't find a better quality image.

I really wish they would just remake Aria of Sorrow for 3ds. It had such a good castle, a pretty decent story, and so many memorable moments that i think a fresh coat of paint would make it just as important as symphony of the night. ( yes i know some people prefer Aria but Symphony just seems more memorable to me)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Inccubus on May 23, 2012, 07:47:20 AM
I can't see cel-shading as an automatic negative Silverlord. Some of my very favorite games use it. Mainly the original Sly Cooper trilogy which I love to pieces, they were able to create a wonderful unashamedly cartoony neo-art deco world with that. Complete with deliciously moody, deep-blue and black night levels at times.
So I think if the devs do go with Cel-shading for a Castlevania as long as the rest of the art direction works with it it shouldn't be a problem.

At least then it would more or less match the all-too-obviously flash based cutscene art. -_-
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Maedhros on May 23, 2012, 07:51:38 AM
To be honest, having MercurySteam do the 3D titles like IGA handles the 2D ones would be the best course. It pleases everyone.
I agree, since I don't really care if it's IGA or not doing a Castlevania, I just care if the gameplay will be good enough and the "Castlevania feel" will be there.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: shelverton. on May 23, 2012, 08:24:10 AM
Then again, Cox is a big fan of the old sidescrolling Castlevanias of the 80's and 90's. I am a little curious what he would come up with, given the chance to make a 2D game. At the same time he seems more interested in "OMG CUTTING EDGE TECHNOLOGY" than IGA, so I'm not sure if he would even be willing to work with 2D graphics?

But stranger things have happened. I mean, look at WayForward and where they were before Contra 4. Who would've guessed that they had excellence in them? The were experienced with 2D but many (not all) their previous efforts were rather terrible. Though maybe that's what happens to small game studios in the beginning, struggling to make a living. They're stuck with all these awkward kiddy licenses until someone gives them a chance.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on May 23, 2012, 08:32:17 AM
Whatcha talkin' about, Shantae was awesome.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: uzo on May 23, 2012, 08:50:29 AM
I mean, look at WayForward and where they were before Contra 4. Who would've guessed that they had excellence in them? The were experienced with 2D but many (not all) their previous efforts were rather terrible. Though maybe that's what happens to small game studios in the beginning, struggling to make a living. They're stuck with all these awkward kiddy licenses until someone gives them a chance.

SHANTAE WOULD LIKE A WORD WITH YOU
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ratty on May 23, 2012, 08:52:46 AM
If IGA was handed sidescrolling handheld Castlevania reigns again I would hope they'd leave more breathing room in his schedule. A lot of complaints and perceived "lazyness" against his team about a generic feel or re-use of sprites in the later IGAvanias can be put down to the insane schedule Konami had him churning them out there for a while.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Thomas Belmont on May 23, 2012, 08:54:19 AM
To be honest, having MercurySteam do the 3D titles like IGA handles the 2D ones would be the best course. It pleases everyone.

Hey, you never know. Maybe MS will make a great 2D game. We'll just have to wait and see.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 23, 2012, 09:06:08 AM
Darn, was hoping for some new leaks after I woke up.

The wait continues.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Profbeanburrito on May 23, 2012, 09:34:45 AM
I know Cox is a big fan of SCV 4, so I just hope there's going to be lots of whip swinging
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Sindra on May 23, 2012, 09:50:41 AM
I know Cox is a big fan of SCV 4, so I just hope there's going to be lots of whip swinging

Yeeeeah, I wouldn't put a lot of stock in that, given how he claimed to be such a big fan of SCV4 and that Lords was going to be so much like it, then it ended up more-or-less flopping in that department. (having dark and moody areas, does not a Super Castlevania 4 tribute make)

Cox says he's a big fan, but any one of us could say that about ourselves. Lords of Shadow didn't really come off like it was a labor of love for Cox and a tribute to his fondness of the game, at least to me. Symphony of the Night did, and it was because there were plenty of both throwbacks that honored the past games, whilst also having a bunch of new and original stuff to set itself apart. (Not praising IGA himself on this one, just the fact that SotN meshed well and you KNEW it was a Castlevania game) That's the issues several of us have - Lords just didn't feel Castlevania to us.

Maybe he'll get it right with Mirror and LoS2. I don't know. He hasn't instilled a lot of faith in me in terms of what he's doing for the franchise, but I'll give him another shot if it looks like he's learned and listened to fans to even just a small degree.

And if the MUSIC has changed gears to be more what we all expect a Castlevania soundtrack should sound like.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 23, 2012, 10:02:14 AM
And if the MUSIC has changed gears to be more what we all expect a Castlevania soundtrack should sound like.
I'm expecting more of the same.

I'm trying to keep my expectations in check right now and expect nothing more than Lords of Shadow in 2D.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: flyingchai on May 23, 2012, 10:12:33 AM
The "dark fairytale" feel of LoS made sense since it was a whole game devoted to recounting the tale of how the legendary antagonist became what he is.
Now that Dracula's been established in the new universe and the castle is now his, I'd bet the next games will actually feel more like other Castlevanias.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: TreasuryRoom1984 on May 23, 2012, 10:34:49 AM
Yeeeeah, I wouldn't put a lot of stock in that, given how he claimed to be such a big fan of SCV4 and that Lords was going to be so much like it, then it ended up more-or-less flopping in that department. (having dark and moody areas, does not a Super Castlevania 4 tribute make)

Cox says he's a big fan, but any one of us could say that about ourselves. Lords of Shadow didn't really come off like it was a labor of love for Cox and a tribute to his fondness of the game, at least to me. Symphony of the Night did, and it was because there were plenty of both throwbacks that honored the past games, whilst also having a bunch of new and original stuff to set itself apart. (Not praising IGA himself on this one, just the fact that SotN meshed well and you KNEW it was a Castlevania game) That's the issues several of us have - Lords just didn't feel Castlevania to us.

Maybe he'll get it right with Mirror and LoS2. I don't know. He hasn't instilled a lot of faith in me in terms of what he's doing for the franchise, but I'll give him another shot if it looks like he's learned and listened to fans to even just a small degree.

And if the MUSIC has changed gears to be more what we all expect a Castlevania soundtrack should sound like.

Maybe to you and a handfull of other people but to me it felt more "Castlevania" then any of the 2000's games.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Nagumo on May 23, 2012, 10:44:11 AM
The developers themselves disagree with you.
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Post by: uzo on May 23, 2012, 10:47:04 AM
Yeeeeah, I wouldn't put a lot of stock in that, given how he claimed to be such a big fan of SCV4 and that Lords was going to be so much like it, then it ended up more-or-less flopping in that department. (having dark and moody areas, does not a Super Castlevania 4 tribute make)

Oh no it was totally SCVIV, right?! Remember that trailer where they like got that SCVIV music, and they didn't bother to even arrange it, just kinda copy pasting the original SNES rendition to some footage. You know cause it doesn't matter for anything than generating interest based on a lie. Why bother arranging it? It's never going to really be in the game. It just looks good to customers of the old franchise. While we're at it, lets infer that you fight Dracula, showing footage of Dracula while saying Gabriel will fight a certain dark lord. We can also show footage of a nice castle too, with very series centric design, and play voice clips during this to allude to these being Dracula's lines and that you will fight Dracula in a castle. This of course never happens in the game, that castle doesn't even actually appear in the game. Not to mention those aren't Dracula's lines at all, and you never do get to fight Dracula. We don't really need to keep these promises you see, because Castlevania is dead now, and no one cares if we trick fans of a dead series into buying our new game. If it works we get the big bucks and more Konami projects, yay us!

"FORGET EVERYTHING YOU KNOW ABOUT CASTLEVANIA"

:(

Just try and deny it. I dare anyone.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: TreasuryRoom1984 on May 23, 2012, 11:02:12 AM
Because there was levels set in the day time, who gives a rat's ass. The whole Agharta thing i never got either, i mean it's not far off when you think that in bloodlines you fight in nazi munitions factory. Glad it finally moved to something different gameplay wise, i love 2D but there's more than enough of those vania's for a lifetime.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 23, 2012, 11:33:45 AM
I know I said no more rumors, but this one lends more credibility to the Nintendo Power rumors. From 4chan:

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I guess I'm gonna clarify some shit, Damage control starting:
it's on the 3Ds because it's the portable with the most fanbase AND every other CV game was on the DS lately.
2d gameplay and neither the camera nor the 3D are used at all gameplay-wise.
Is it metroid or classic-vania? really a bit of a misture, The castle and its surrounded are very delimited areas, but a lot of them have maze-like layout (others will be mostly going forward jumping and facing enemies that you can't just avoid)
And yes, Nintendo power subscribers will receive an special Simon Belmont (LoS version) cover while the average joe will be able to buy a Trevor one.

And no WiiU LoS2 (don't know anything about the Vita rumours)

Simon is barbarian in appearance with a beard, Trevor has a coat over his armor that looks similar to Gabriel's.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: djrunza on May 23, 2012, 11:36:57 AM
I wonder who will be the protagonist and the antagonist of this game and when does it takes place though. Really can't wait for them to show up this Castlevania: Mirror Of Fate trailer off. Most importantly, I really wish that Lord Dracula would be able to make his appearance in this upcoming game as well! I don't know why, but I could feel that this game is going to be one of the most greatest Castlevania games ever! :D
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Nagumo on May 23, 2012, 11:38:37 AM
Could you give a link, OSM?
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Post by: Kingshango on May 23, 2012, 11:39:09 AM
I know I said no more rumors, but this one lends more credibility to the Nintendo Power rumors. From 4chan:

Castle is the center point?
Order of Ecclesia like map layout?
Trevor has a badass longcoat?
Simon Belmont with a manly beard!?

Shit I need to go to the doctor, my hope wont stay down.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 23, 2012, 11:41:04 AM
Could you give a link, OSM?
http://boards.4chan.org/v/res/140441335#p140450501 (http://boards.4chan.org/v/res/140441335#p140450501)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Nagumo on May 23, 2012, 11:41:36 AM
We know that the part of the camera not being used is false.
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Post by: GuyStarwind on May 23, 2012, 11:54:13 AM
Yeah I think a manly beard is a nice touch.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 23, 2012, 12:07:16 PM
We know that the part of the camera not being used is false.
I think so too. Only thing I'm potentially bummed about is no LoS2 on WiiU if it is true.

The guy is talking about gameplay specifics now, having a grab dedicated button sounds very similar to LoS.
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Post by: CastleDan on May 23, 2012, 12:07:52 PM
I really dislike the fact that we don't know what rumors are real. Saw is that Paul guy reporting fake info?...because I really want a vita castlevania and i'll be pretty mad if that all turns out to be fake.
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Post by: Chernabogue on May 23, 2012, 12:09:06 PM
Those new rumors about the MoF/3DS game are awesome! Trevor AND Simon? Yes please!
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Post by: Maedhros on May 23, 2012, 12:10:59 PM
I would prefer Alucard over one of the two... actually... isn't Simon and Trevor related? Are they really alive at same time?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: knightmere on May 23, 2012, 12:11:34 PM
I really dislike the fact that we don't know what rumors are real. Saw is that Paul guy reporting fake info?...because I really want a vita castlevania and i'll be pretty mad if that all turns out to be fake.

Thats why they are called "RUMORS". 
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 23, 2012, 12:12:14 PM
I would prefer Alucard over one of the two... actually... isn't Simon and Trevor related? Are they really alive at same time?
They're supposed to be father and son.

I still believe Alucard is in the game, David Cox's twitter pic is a clear indication.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: CastleDan on May 23, 2012, 12:12:53 PM
Thats why they are called "RUMORS".
Except the paul site this weren't really rumors and it's reliable, plus he was the one that originally broke the news on the playstation fighters game..
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: knightmere on May 23, 2012, 12:13:07 PM
I would prefer Alucard over one of the two... actually... isn't Simon and Trevor related? Are they really alive at same time?

Originally Trevor was Simon's forefather, rumor is that in MOF Trevor will be Simon's father.
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Post by: knightmere on May 23, 2012, 12:13:58 PM
Except the paul site this weren't really rumors and it's reliable, plus he was the one that originally broke the news on the playstation fighters game..

Until something is stated officially, technically its all rumors and speculation...
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Post by: Mikepjr on May 23, 2012, 12:21:12 PM
I am really not sure how i am feeling about this... i just got lords of shadow for my PS3... and i'm not real happy with it... it's as if they threw everything Castlevania related out the window just about..... and why the hell is the devil the last boss?! O.o
The music feels wrong to... and where are the candles you gain things from?!
Granted i like the main character, at least he's a belmont... but.. then he BECOMES dracula?! *face palms*

So yeah... i mean.. i want to be excited.... i'm just not... but i would love to be wrong, i would love to be blown away even!
I hope i am wrong, and i look forward to being blown away.

I think the music is what felt off the most to me... it just.. reeks of western development... all the japanese charm is gone... i feel like... you have to have a LITTLE of that japanese charm.. otherwise it feels nothing like a CV game.. and Lords of shadow.. so far... feels like a game that could have had any other title, and it would make more sense.... to me anyhow....

Sooooo you can see why i am worried about these games... and why i am hoping for the best...
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Post by: knightmere on May 23, 2012, 12:26:09 PM
I am really not sure how i am feeling about this... i just got lords of shadow for my PS3... and i'm not real happy with it... it's as if they threw everything Castlevania related out the window just about..... and why the hell is the devil the last boss?! O.o
The music feels wrong to... and where are the candles you gain things from?!
Granted i like the main character, at least he's a belmont... but.. then he BECOMES dracula?! *face palms*

So yeah... i mean.. i want to be excited.... i'm just not... but i would love to be wrong, i would love to be blown away even!
I hope i am wrong, and i look forward to being blown away.

I think the music is what felt off the most to me... it just.. reeks of western development... all the japanese charm is gone... i feel like... you have to have a LITTLE of that japanese charm.. otherwise it feels nothing like a CV game.. and Lords of shadow.. so far... feels like a game that could have had any other title, and it would make more sense.... to me anyhow....

Sooooo you can see why i am worried about these games... and why i am hoping for the best...

Cautiously Optimistic
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Post by: Maedhros on May 23, 2012, 12:29:05 PM
I am really not sure how i am feeling about this... i just got lords of shadow for my PS3... and i'm not real happy with it... it's as if they threw everything Castlevania related out the window just about..... and why the hell is the devil the last boss?! O.o
The music feels wrong to... and where are the candles you gain things from?!
Granted i like the main character, at least he's a belmont... but.. then he BECOMES dracula?! *face palms*

So yeah... i mean.. i want to be excited.... i'm just not... but i would love to be wrong, i would love to be blown away even!
I hope i am wrong, and i look forward to being blown away.

I think the music is what felt off the most to me... it just.. reeks of western development... all the japanese charm is gone... i feel like... you have to have a LITTLE of that japanese charm.. otherwise it feels nothing like a CV game.. and Lords of shadow.. so far... feels like a game that could have had any other title, and it would make more sense.... to me anyhow....

Sooooo you can see why i am worried about these games... and why i am hoping for the best...
There are some candles in the castle that drop sub-weapons... not that it matters, it's just another little nod, but not fully integrated into the game.
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Post by: e105beta on May 23, 2012, 12:31:20 PM
I am really not sure how i am feeling about this... i just got lords of shadow for my PS3... and i'm not real happy with it... it's as if they threw everything Castlevania related out the window just about..... and why the hell is the devil the last boss?! O.o
The music feels wrong to... and where are the candles you gain things from?!
Granted i like the main character, at least he's a belmont... but.. then he BECOMES dracula?! *face palms*

So yeah... i mean.. i want to be excited.... i'm just not... but i would love to be wrong, i would love to be blown away even!
I hope i am wrong, and i look forward to being blown away.

I think the music is what felt off the most to me... it just.. reeks of western development... all the japanese charm is gone... i feel like... you have to have a LITTLE of that japanese charm.. otherwise it feels nothing like a CV game.. and Lords of shadow.. so far... feels like a game that could have had any other title, and it would make more sense.... to me anyhow....

Sooooo you can see why i am worried about these games... and why i am hoping for the best...

I don't think I'm ever going to understand why the darn candles are so important to people, but by now I'm done trying.

To me, they're such a minor gameplay element that do little more than add a bit of activity to long hallways, and yet it feels like they're the lifeblood of the series to everyone else.
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Post by: knightmere on May 23, 2012, 12:35:29 PM
I don't think I'm ever going to understand why the darn candles are so important to people, but by now I'm done trying.

To me, they're such a minor gameplay element that do little more than add a bit of activity to long hallways, and yet it feels like they're the lifeblood of the series to everyone else.

If you take the question mark boxes out of Mario games would that hurt their appeal to the fanbase?
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Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 23, 2012, 12:36:00 PM
I don't think I'm ever going to understand why the darn candles are so important to people, but by now I'm done trying.

To me, they're such a minor gameplay element that do little more than add a bit of activity to long hallways, and yet it feels like they're the lifeblood of the series to everyone else.

Candles for Castlevania, are what coins are for super mario and what the rings are for sonic. Can you imagine a main mario game, without coins or a sonic game without the rings? :rollseyes:
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Post by: e105beta on May 23, 2012, 12:37:41 PM
If you take the question mark boxes out of Mario games would that hurt their appeal to the fanbase?

Well judging by the Castlevania fanbase, I'd imagine so.

Personally, I wouldn't care less, but then again, I'm the guy who wanted "Legend of Zelda: Valley of the Flood" to be real.

Candles for Castlevania, are what coins are for super mario and what the rings are for sonic. Can you imagine a main mario game, without coins or a sonic game without the rings? :rollseyes:

Technically coins are to Mario as hearts and cashbags are to Castlevania, but I see your point.

And yes I could.
IMO, all a Mario game needs is Mario to be considered a Mario game.
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Post by: OSM on May 23, 2012, 12:38:41 PM
I don't think I'm ever going to understand why the darn candles are so important to people, but by now I'm done trying.
It helps keep the pace of the original games alive. They're as iconic as the blocks in Mario games.
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Post by: Munchy on May 23, 2012, 12:40:01 PM
If both IGA and Cox are going to present this game I hope they are going to do a comedic duo act complete with eye poking and throwing pies.

The running gag would be that they both think of themselves as the producer of the Castlevania series while accusing the other of being a fraud.

See, this would be brilliant at Konami's next live E3 conference.
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Post by: Mikepjr on May 23, 2012, 12:40:33 PM
Candles for Castlevania, are what coins are for super mario and what the rings are for sonic. Can you imagine a main mario game, without coins or a sonic game without the rings? :rollseyes:

Thankyouuuuu
That's what i am saying...
It's just.. very synonymous with the series.
Nintendo STILL uses these things.. why? Cause of how synonymous they are with the series... they were taken out of Super Mario Sunshine... and later placed back in the galaxy games... and even in the NEW super mario games...
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Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 23, 2012, 12:42:13 PM
If you take the question mark boxes out of Mario games would that hurt their appeal to the fanbase?


For me, it wouldn't, since by erasing the question mark, the box will remain box, it want disappear. Candles have varied designs, so it doesn't matter what shape they are going to have, as long as they are there.
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Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 23, 2012, 12:46:47 PM
Technically coins are to Mario as hearts and cashbags are to Castlevania, but I see your point.

And yes I could.
IMO, all a Mario game needs is Mario to be considered a Mario game.

I don't say the oposite, all mario games are mario games, since mario is the hero, but they are different genre. I was only referring to the platform mario games.
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Post by: e105beta on May 23, 2012, 12:56:02 PM
It helps keep the pace of the original games alive. They're as iconic as the blocks in Mario games.

See, I'd disagree.

The question mark block has, much like the Mario series, not changed since its inception.

Castlevania candles, on the other hand, come in a variety of shapes and sizes, and, starting with Symphony of the Night, have been replaced in certain instances by non-candle objects, i.e. vases, pots, food, etc. Since Castlevania started becoming all about atmosphere, IGA's team would replaced candles with whatever enhanced the atmosphere, especially if candles didn't exactly make sense with the setup.

Hell, Simon's Quest even removed candles from huge parts of the game

Ultimately, my point is that seeing how Lords of Shadow used candles to enhance the parts of the game where they were appropriate, I don't see how shoehorning floating candles into nonsensical areas like the Classicvanias would be better.
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Post by: OSM on May 23, 2012, 01:00:45 PM
Castlevania candles, on the other hand, come in a variety of shapes and sizes, and, starting with Symphony of the Night, have been replaced in certain instances by non-candle objects, i.e. vases, pots, food, etc. Since Castlevania started becoming all about atmosphere, IGA's team would replaced candles with whatever enhanced the atmosphere, especially if candles didn't exactly make sense with the setup.

Hell, Simon's Quest even removed candles from huge parts of the game

Ultimately, my point is that seeing how Lords of Shadow used candles to enhance the parts of the game where they were appropriate, I don't see how shoehorning floating candles into nonsensical areas like the Classicvanias would be better.
You know, I never thought of it like that. You prove some very good points.
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Post by: Dengo vlad tepes on May 23, 2012, 01:06:15 PM
guys CV:HOF is a CO-OP game confirmed by eurogamer ... i gave up 2d castlevanias , los for the life ...
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Post by: Maedhros on May 23, 2012, 01:07:35 PM
See, I'd disagree.

The question mark block has, much like the Mario series, not changed since its inception.

Castlevania candles, on the other hand, come in a variety of shapes and sizes, and, starting with Symphony of the Night, have been replaced in certain instances by non-candle objects, i.e. vases, pots, food, etc. Since Castlevania started becoming all about atmosphere, IGA's team would replaced candles with whatever enhanced the atmosphere, especially if candles didn't exactly make sense with the setup.

Hell, Simon's Quest even removed candles from huge parts of the game

Ultimately, my point is that seeing how Lords of Shadow used candles to enhance the parts of the game where they were appropriate, I don't see how shoehorning floating candles into nonsensical areas like the Classicvanias would be better.
They could use other objects with the same purpose. Candles don't need to be candles, other objects would do (but in the castle, candles are essential IMO).

But it's not something we'll see with the western development taking control of Castlevania and trying to transform it into an EPIC...
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Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 23, 2012, 01:07:56 PM
Castlevania candles, on the other hand, come in a variety of shapes and sizes, and, starting with Symphony of the Night, have been replaced in certain instances by non-candle objects, i.e. vases, pots, food, etc. Since Castlevania started becoming all about atmosphere, IGA's team would replaced candles with whatever enhanced the atmosphere, especially if candles didn't exactly make sense with the setup.

I believe that that formula can work for the best, since that way you don't erase candles from the game and at the same time you can have nice aesthetic areas/enviroments.
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Post by: e105beta on May 23, 2012, 01:09:11 PM
They could use other objects with the same purpose. Candles don't need to be candles, other objects would do (but in the castle, candles are essential IMO).

But it's not something we'll see with the western development taking control of Castlevania and trying to transform it into an EPIC...

They do. Have you actually played LoS?
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Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 23, 2012, 01:10:58 PM
guys CV:HOF is a CO-OP game confirmed by eurogamer ... i gave up 2d castlevanias , los for the life ...

When that happened? Link?
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Post by: Foffy on May 23, 2012, 01:15:48 PM
guys CV:HOF is a CO-OP game confirmed by eurogamer ... i gave up 2d castlevanias , los for the life ...

Castlevania: Heart of Fire? :3c
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Post by: Ring_of_Varda on May 23, 2012, 01:19:16 PM
apparently our favorite imageboard is claiming that some of the art for the game was posted on eurogamer and then taken down.

such things as trevor has a "shoulder pad with a carved angry lion".
"Armor that had a weird pattern all over it, sort of like Gabriel's, and he had a long cloak over him like in his original design from Dracula's Curse. He looked pretty mature, maybe in his late 40's."


hopefully someone actually saved a copy of the artwork so that could be passed around. since finding out that a fair amount of the leaks are coming from a less than reputable source, its all being taken with a grain of salt for me til E3.
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Post by: RichterB on May 23, 2012, 01:20:08 PM
Updates: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=castlevania&source=newssearch&cd=1&ved=0CC0QqQIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmultiplayerblog.mtv.com%2F2012%2F05%2F23%2Fcastlevania-lords-of-shadow-2-mirror-of-fate-details%2F&ei=xkW9T6CfLOb3sQKdy60c&usg=AFQjCNE0BzuzcadNxE_gYRaQCCzyPoNRVg&cad=rja (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=castlevania&source=newssearch&cd=1&ved=0CC0QqQIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmultiplayerblog.mtv.com%2F2012%2F05%2F23%2Fcastlevania-lords-of-shadow-2-mirror-of-fate-details%2F&ei=xkW9T6CfLOb3sQKdy60c&usg=AFQjCNE0BzuzcadNxE_gYRaQCCzyPoNRVg&cad=rja)

Originally, Mirror of Fate was for Wii U! See above link.

Anyway, I'm intrigued. Not confident, but intrigued. I think Mirror of Fate tickles my curiosity more than LoS 2 right now (though, that's mostly because of how LoS 1 turned out). More generally speaking to what was posted on this site's front page, I think the rumored graphical camera style, more Kirby 64 and Klonoa than Dracula X Chronicles is a very good idea that I have been interested to see in a Castlevania game.

The same questions remain as always, though: the quality of the game structure and the art direction.
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Post by: Maedhros on May 23, 2012, 01:21:36 PM
They do. Have you actually played LoS?
Yes?
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Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 23, 2012, 01:25:06 PM
All i se is this:Mirror of Fate is confirmed as a 2D Castlevania adventure starring two different characters ala Portrait of Ruin, with options for co-op play.

This doesn't mean that the game is a CO-OP. Let's just all stay calm and cool, till an official statement comes out.
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Post by: crisis on May 23, 2012, 01:27:46 PM
hey guys remember this

(http://nerdmentality.com/games/DSN/DSN_castlevania_portrait_of_ruin/np204_castlevpor_cover.jpg)
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Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 23, 2012, 01:30:26 PM
hey guys remember this

(http://nerdmentality.com/games/DSN/DSN_castlevania_portrait_of_ruin/np204_castlevpor_cover.jpg)

Are you referring to Jonathan design on the magazine cover?
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Post by: e105beta on May 23, 2012, 01:32:19 PM
Yes?

Castlevania: Lords of Shadow Walkthrough - Part 28-1 Castle Hall (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMzSJ0rdSfI#ws)

7:23
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Post by: OSM on May 23, 2012, 01:32:47 PM
What the heck is up with Johnathan's hair on that cover?
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Post by: crisis on May 23, 2012, 01:35:28 PM
"a Nintendo DS masterpiece in the making!"

Back then everyone, like now, was super-duper excited for it to come out with all the rumors & leaks.


deja-vu perhaps?
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Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 23, 2012, 01:35:39 PM
What the heck is up with Johnathan's hair on that cover?

His haircuter was busy!!! ;D
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Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 23, 2012, 01:36:32 PM
"a Nintendo DS masterpiece in the making!"

Back then everyone, like now, was super-duper excited for it to come out with all the rumors & leaks.


deja-vu perhaps?

The same goes for OoE.
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Post by: Maedhros on May 23, 2012, 01:39:06 PM
Castlevania: Lords of Shadow Walkthrough - Part 28-1 Castle Hall (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMzSJ0rdSfI#ws)

7:23
Did you noticed I never said the castle was the problem? Also, destrutible objects are really different from the what candles did in CV. ALL of them needed to drop something (hearts or not), that way they would be part of the design. Outside the castle, they could use rock piles, impaled bodies or even rustic candles hanging in trees (of course, if the game had darker places outside the castle, like more darker forests).
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Post by: OSM on May 23, 2012, 01:39:16 PM
Back then everyone, like now, was super-duper excited for it to come out with all the rumors & leaks.

deja-vu perhaps?
"Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it."

That would be quite awful. Right now MoF sounds 100x more interesting than all of the DS Castlevanias combined.
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Post by: CastleDan on May 23, 2012, 01:41:30 PM
The difference being is now they probably have a decent budget and a competent/hardworking team leading this project.
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Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 23, 2012, 01:42:05 PM
"Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it."

That would be quite awful. Right now MoF sounds 100x more interesting than all of the DS Castlevanias combined.

Well said my friend. For now, we only have rumors. Let's hope that this friday we might be lucky and learn something official.
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Post by: RichterB on May 23, 2012, 01:43:52 PM
"a Nintendo DS masterpiece in the making!"

Back then everyone, like now, was super-duper excited for it to come out with all the rumors & leaks.


deja-vu perhaps?

Portrait of Ruin was maybe the worst let-down of the DS era. I thought IGA was seriously making a globe-trotting follow-up to Bloodlines in a style close to Bloodlines via the portraits. Instead, it was mini-castleroids inside a larger castleroid shell. There was no Bloodlines classicvania with death pits, etc to be found.  :'(

I posted the MTV article earlier. Wasn't that confirmed info?
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Post by: CastleDan on May 23, 2012, 01:44:25 PM
Having a sidescroller with an actual combat system might lead to more interesting gameplay...so there's that.
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Post by: RichterB on May 23, 2012, 01:46:16 PM
Having a sidescroller with an actual combat system might lead to more interesting gameplay...so there's that.

Doesn't a combat system slowly translate into a fighter/brawler? I mean, not having a combat system never hurt the freewheeling action and challenge of earlier 2D Castlevania games. Hopefully this title will be inspired by Castlevania IV. By the way, from the MTV article, it sounds like the 3DS cameras will be used in "puzzles." Makes me wonder about the game's "flow."
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Post by: CastleDan on May 23, 2012, 01:47:52 PM
Doesn't a combat system slowly translate into a fighter/brawler? I mean, not having a combat system never hurt the freewheeling action and challenge of earlier 2D Castlevania games.

From what we know it's retaining the basic castlevania formula but with an added combat system. Sounds win win to me. You have more moves for some fun gameplay while keeping all the traditional ideas too. I don't see a flaw in that concept, at least on paper.
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Post by: cecil-kain on May 23, 2012, 01:49:01 PM
"Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it."

That would be quite awful. Right now MoF sounds 100x more interesting than all of the DS Castlevanias combined.

Quite true.

Trevor, Simon, and Alucard make for some serious bait...
But Cox's involvement makes me a little nervous about where this is going...
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Post by: CastleDan on May 23, 2012, 01:49:53 PM
Quite true.

Trevor, Simon, and Alucard make for some serious bait...
But Cox's involvement makes me a little nervous about where this is going...

If Trevor and Simon are the main characters of the 3ds game then we better get to play as alucard in Los2....
it would be such a tease to just flaunt alucard and not let us play as him in either game!
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Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 23, 2012, 01:50:13 PM
I believe that you can have death pits, even in metroidvanias. Instead of instan kill, the player could received a huge amount of damage, so if you don't want to see a game over, then you should learn not to fall inside the death pits. That way, casual gamers want turn away, because they want have to start all over, every time they get fall into a death pit, exept if they keep falling.........
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Post by: RichterB on May 23, 2012, 01:51:12 PM
From what we know it's retaining the basic castlevania formula but with an added combat system. Sounds win win to me. You have more moves for some fun gameplay while keeping all the traditional ideas too. I don't see a flaw in that concept, at least on paper.

OK. Just so long as it's balanced within the context of the levels. Combat systems sometimes mean flatter "hallway-style" levels, with an emphasis on beating things up versus traversing structural obstructions. What do you make of the puzzle system, though. Did you read my edit: By the way, from the MTV article, it sounds like the 3DS cameras will be used in "puzzles." Makes me wonder about the game's "flow." (PS: interesting that it was supposedly originally for Wii U; that dev time is what we have to thank for LoS Wii U, I'd imagine).
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Post by: Maedhros on May 23, 2012, 01:52:58 PM
The MTV is just reporting what we already knew... it isn't confirmation by any means.
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Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 23, 2012, 01:54:40 PM
OK. Just so long as it's balanced within the context of the levels. Combat systems sometimes mean flatter "hallway-style" levels, with an emphasis on beating things up versus traversing structural obstructions. What do you make of the puzzle system, though. Did you read my edit: By the way, from the MTV article, it sounds like the 3DS cameras will be used in "puzzles." Makes me wonder about the game's "flow."

This one reminds me the touch screen function from DoS and i can tell you that i hated, so if the new puzzle system disturbs the flow of the game, then i will be very disappointed......
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Post by: cecil-kain on May 23, 2012, 02:00:38 PM
This one reminds me the touch screen function from DoS and i can tell you that i hated, so if the new puzzle system disturbs the flow of the game, then i will be very disappointed......

Although I thoroughly despised the Magic Seals, LoS takes the Golden Trophy for "puzzles that disturbed the flow of the game."  Another cause for concern...
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Post by: OSM on May 23, 2012, 02:05:03 PM
Although I thoroughly despised the Magic Seals, LoS takes the Golden Trophy for "puzzles that disturbed the flow of the game."  Another cause for concern...
I loved the puzzles in LoS, to be perfectly honest. Vampire Chess was a really fun mini game.
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Post by: crisis on May 23, 2012, 02:05:23 PM
Yeah I wasn't too fond of LoS' puzzles either. Way too many. At least they gave us the option to skip them altogether.
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Post by: e105beta on May 23, 2012, 02:13:18 PM
Did you noticed I never said the castle was the problem? Also, destrutible objects are really different from the what candles did in CV. ALL of them needed to drop something (hearts or not), that way they would be part of the design. Outside the castle, they could use rock piles, impaled bodies or even rustic candles hanging in trees (of course, if the game had darker places outside the castle, like more darker forests).

The ammo system changed, so no, not everything needed to drop something, and just because every item doesn't drop something, doesn't mean it's not part of the design.

And they did have destructible outside the castle. The cave, the forest ruins, the monestary, etc.
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Post by: Ahasverus on May 23, 2012, 02:32:23 PM
Wait, I'm just catching up.
So MoF stars Simon AND Trevor Belmont as father/son duo. Where's Alucard? is he evil? (I bet he is, at least in MoF)

And the most importatn question: So who is the progtagonist of the console sequel? if Only Simon, then Trevor dies at the end of MoF?

P.S: Did someone -1'd 77 of my posts since this morning? Hahahahah
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Post by: beingthehero on May 23, 2012, 02:39:27 PM
The info seems to be everywhere at the moment. I thought Alucard would be the star of LoS2? Or is it Simon and Trevor together in the handheld? Ughghghg.

I also remember when the first screens of OoE was leaked, I was among many people who thought they were faked. :X
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Post by: Ascension on May 23, 2012, 02:55:43 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing a father and son tag team with Trevor and Simon involved.  I hope they look and are tough SOB's.
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Post by: Sindra on May 23, 2012, 02:56:07 PM
Yep also she's the main composer to it and the soundtracks are nothing to Castlevania music

I disagree wholeheartedly. There were plenty of tracks she did that had a lot of Castlevania feel to them. She just counterbalanced them with some other stuff that was jazzy and upbeat. And, she only did a majority of the work on the soundtrack. Vincent Diamante did parts too, and his were jazz-based as well.

I did a review of the soundtrack, actually. Check it out (http://www.originalsoundversion.com/candy-for-the-skull-skullgirls-ost-review/) and see what I mean. Yamane has a distinct style of music that you can still hear even in non-Castlevania games.

Honestly, Cox and Arajou need to look at what Yamane did with Lament of Innocence and Curse of Darkness, to get a good feel of how moody, ambient Castlevania music can be used effectively to be both background noise AND memorable at the same time, and how to apply that to their games for the future. (including LoS2 and Mirror)
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Post by: OSM on May 23, 2012, 03:04:47 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing a father and son tag team with Trevor and Simon involved.  I hope they look and are tough SOB's.
Simon sounds like he's a hot headed barbarian with a manly beard, and Trevor is a warrior donning the Order's armor with a crazy looking shoulder piece and ragged cloak over him. They sound pretty manly and very much like the original Belmonts to me.
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Post by: Dengo vlad tepes on May 23, 2012, 03:05:43 PM
I disagree wholeheartedly. There were plenty of tracks she did that had a lot of Castlevania feel to them. She just counterbalanced them with some other stuff that was jazzy and upbeat. And, she only did a majority of the work on the soundtrack. Vincent Diamante did parts too, and his were jazz-based as well.

I did a review of the soundtrack, actually. Check it out (http://www.originalsoundversion.com/candy-for-the-skull-skullgirls-ost-review/) and see what I mean. Yamane has a distinct style of music that you can still hear even in non-Castlevania games.

Honestly, Cox and Arajou need to look at what Yamane did with Lament of Innocence and Curse of Darkness, to get a good feel of how moody, ambient Castlevania music can be used effectively to be both background noise AND memorable at the same time, and how to apply that to their games for the future. (including LoS2 and Mirror)

but sis , when i said "its nothing" i meant its nothing good compared to her job in CV she just could do better
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Post by: Neobelmont on May 23, 2012, 03:12:52 PM
I want to punch Alucard in the face if he is a villain/antihero, hell I just want to punch him regardless.  :P
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Post by: Dengo vlad tepes on May 23, 2012, 03:16:25 PM
I want to punch Alucard in the face if he is a villain/antihero, hell I just want to punch him regardless.  :P

let him awake from his loong slumber so we can aaalll punch him together
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Post by: OSM on May 23, 2012, 03:16:39 PM
I think Alucard will serve more as a mentor/supporting character if he's not playable.

What I want to know is how Alucard is even in this timeline, Alucard is the literal son of Dracula in lore. Did Gabula get with someone else? I can see Trevor being born prior to LoS, though. That would also make the Belmonts bastard children of the Cronqvists.
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Post by: Maedhros on May 23, 2012, 03:18:07 PM
I think Alucard will serve more as a mentor/supporting character if he's not playable.

What I want to know is how Alucard is even in this timeline, Alucard is the literal son of Dracula in lore. Did Gabula get with someone else? I can see Trevor being born prior to LoS, though. That would also make the Belmonts bastard children of the Cronqvists.
In the original Timeline, Dracula was already a vampire when he had Alucard, right?
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Post by: Ascension on May 23, 2012, 03:20:40 PM
Simon sounds like he's a hot headed barbarian with a manly beard, and Trevor is a warrior donning the Order's armor with a crazy looking shoulder piece and ragged cloak over him. They sound pretty manly and very much like the original Belmonts to me.

That's what I want to see in this new one (hopefully).  That would imprint a great castlevania feel into the game. (For me atleast)
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Post by: Neobelmont on May 23, 2012, 03:21:55 PM
let him awake from his loong slumber so we can aaalll punch him together

Hell ya!!! But in a more serious sense I would like to fight him in a new cv game even if it was just a training exercise.

Also I think a nice easter egg would be that the songs that will be in the game can be coverted into a 8-bit or 16-bit music mode. Come on who does not want to hear a 8-bit Belmont's theme? I know I do   :)
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Post by: Foffy on May 23, 2012, 03:26:31 PM
In the original Timeline, Dracula was already a vampire when he had Alucard, right?

I believe so. Lisa was human, and Dracula was a vampire.
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Post by: Dengo vlad tepes on May 23, 2012, 03:34:20 PM
Hell ya!!! But in a more serious sense I would like to fight him in a new cv game even if it was just a training exercise.

Also I think a nice easter egg would be that the songs that will be in the game can be coverted into a 8-bit or 16-bit music mode. Come on who does not want to hear a 8-bit Belmont's theme? I know I do   :)

lets wait an see =D
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Post by: Thomas Belmont on May 23, 2012, 03:41:02 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing a father and son tag team with Trevor and Simon involved.  I hope they look and are tough SOB's.

I love Simon and Trevor but both of them in one game seems redundant.
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Post by: OSM on May 23, 2012, 03:44:32 PM
I love Simon and Trevor but both of them in one game seems redundant.
I didn't expect two Belmonts in one game, I figured Simon would be in the console sequel. I'm wondering what gameplay differences they'll both have.
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Post by: Thomas Belmont on May 23, 2012, 03:51:42 PM
I didn't expect two Belmonts in one game, I figured Simon would be in the console sequel. I'm wondering what gameplay differences they'll both have.

Yeah. I'd prefer Trevor in the first game and Simon in the second. And I can't say that I'm happy about the rumor of them being father and son. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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Post by: Profbeanburrito on May 23, 2012, 03:52:13 PM
Since there are way too many pages here to read through, where did his info of Simon and Trevor and what they look like come from? Also are there any leaked pictures yet?
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Post by: crisis on May 23, 2012, 03:56:11 PM
i heard Trevor is gonna have a doppleganger
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Post by: Thomas Belmont on May 23, 2012, 03:57:39 PM
I want to punch Alucard in the face if he is a villain/antihero, hell I just want to punch him regardless.  :P


Oh, yeah! I love Alucard but I want to see him get his ass handed to him by Trevor, or any Belmont for that matter.
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Post by: Kingshango on May 23, 2012, 04:02:36 PM
Since there are way too many pages here to read through, where did his info of Simon and Trevor and what they look like come from? Also are there any leaked pictures yet?

Eurogamer posted artwork of Trevor Belmont but quickly took it down, the ones who were lucky enough to catch it(and didn't screencap it for some reason) described him wearing a longcoat like he one he wore in Dracula's Curse and under it was armor similar to Gabriel's armor with a lion face sculpted on his shoulder pad.
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Post by: Foffy on May 23, 2012, 04:04:59 PM
Yeah. I'd prefer Trevor in the first game and Simon in the second. And I can't say that I'm happy about the rumor of them being father and son. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Remember, this is a reboot. Think of them as new Belmonts with names from characters we knew of in past games. Besides, didn't some parody games by Konami run with the idea that there were three Simon Belmonts, using it as a name passed down from the family? I do recall maybe in the Wai Wai World games that it had Simon Belmont III/the Third as the Belmont of the game.
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Post by: Neobelmont on May 23, 2012, 04:08:33 PM

Oh, yeah! I love Alucard but I want to see him get his ass handed to him by Trevor, or any Belmont for that matter.

Yeah if it is true then I cannot wait to beat him again as Trevor. or my favorite belmont simon.

But how will these two play differently.
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Post by: Thomas Belmont on May 23, 2012, 04:09:27 PM
Remember, this is a reboot. Think of them as new Belmonts with names from characters we knew of in past games. Besides, didn't some parody games by Konami run with the idea that there were three Simon Belmonts, using it as a name passed down from the family? I do recall maybe in the Wai Wai World games that it had Simon Belmont III/the Third as the Belmont of the game.

I know. But just because it's a reboot doesn't mean they have to change EVERYTHING.
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Post by: crisis on May 23, 2012, 04:11:00 PM
either Trevor is gonna be in his late 40s or 50s for Simon to be grown up "with a beard"
or Trevor will be way younger & Simon will be a teenager

and which 1 will wield the Vampire Killer
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Post by: Foffy on May 23, 2012, 04:12:59 PM
I know. But just because it's a reboot doesn't mean they have to change EVERYTHING.

Forget everything you know about Cast- yeah, you know.

And I do agree with you. If they're going to take major characters from the old games, I would expect the limitations of them from the old canon to be taken into account. Otherwise they should just make new characters. Particularly with the Belmont lineage.
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Post by: Thomas Belmont on May 23, 2012, 04:13:33 PM
either Trevor is gonna be in his late 40s or 50s for Simon to be grown up "with a beard"
or Trevor will be way younger & Simon will be a teenager

and which 1 will wield the Vampire Killer

I hope they don't make Trevor die for Simon to inherit the Vampire Killer. That would suck. And man, I so wish I caught that Trevor pic.
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Post by: GuyStarwind on May 23, 2012, 04:14:56 PM
It may not be the best comparison but Trevor and Simon play differently in Judgment. Trevor does more punching and kicking moves and Simon is more involved with the whip. Just a thought.

Moreover, I'm aware of this being a reboot but isn't Trevor the Grandfather of Simon or something of the sort. Although I don't mind if he's the father as long as he's a Belmont.
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Post by: OSM on May 23, 2012, 04:16:06 PM
and which 1 will wield the Vampire Killer
The "Vampire Killer" doesn't exist anymore. Rinaldo probably made new whips for both of them.
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Post by: crisis on May 23, 2012, 04:17:37 PM
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Moreover, I'm aware of this being a reboot but isn't Trevor the Grandfather of Simon or something of the sort. Although I don't mind if he's the father as long as he's a Belmont.

cox does what he wants, when he wants

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The "Vampire Killer" doesn't exist anymore. Rinaldo probably made them both new whips.

you right you right. so how long it'll be before you sell your copy?  :P
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Post by: Neobelmont on May 23, 2012, 04:18:12 PM
I hope they don't make Trevor die for Simon to inherit the Vampire Killer. That would suck. And man, I so wish I caught that Trevor pic.

Dammit you beat me to it.




Moreover, I'm aware of this being a reboot but isn't Trevor the Grandfather of Simon or something of the sort. Although I don't mind if he's the father as long as he's a Belmont.

Fun thought then Sypha would be Simon mother, hey that could explain why Simon set that ghoul in a green flame in that tech demo gauntlet plus magic power  ;)
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Post by: OSM on May 23, 2012, 04:18:29 PM
you right you right. so how long it'll be before you sell your copy?  :P
I'll play it, beat it, and then sell it if I really don't end up liking it.
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Post by: beingthehero on May 23, 2012, 04:19:47 PM
Since MoF is an interquel, I guess that means that it'll be the spiritual retelling of CV3 with Trevor and Al. So I imagine Sypha and Grant will be there too, which will explain the co-op. And then we'll have Lords 2, which will be Simon hunting down Gabriel. So, we'll have our retelling of CV1/SCIV/Chronicles/Haunted Castle/Captain N.

I wonder if they'll cover any of the games past that. A MercurySteam Juste Belmont would certainly be something.
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Post by: crisis on May 23, 2012, 04:20:39 PM
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I'll play it, beat it, and then sell it if I really don't end up liking it.

(http://www.funny2k.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/T-Shirt/like_a_boss_gtfo_meme_face_shirt.jpg)
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Post by: Super Waffle on May 23, 2012, 04:22:05 PM
Why would you put a game with canon characters in the hands of a guy whose entire thing is my games take place in a completely separate universe?

http://chichichichipndale.deviantart.com/journal/The-forty-eighth-sign-of-the-apocalypse-299938299 (http://chichichichipndale.deviantart.com/journal/The-forty-eighth-sign-of-the-apocalypse-299938299)

This is like that thing they're trying to do with Star Trek.
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Post by: Ridureyu on May 23, 2012, 04:24:22 PM
Yay, new games!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D


Sorry, I'm too busy doing that to really think critically at the moment.
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Post by: GuyStarwind on May 23, 2012, 04:25:08 PM
If they have Grant and Sypha I hope they go for more original designs and not make them turnout like the Judgment ones(mostly Grants, I didn't mind Sypha's).
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Post by: Neobelmont on May 23, 2012, 04:27:39 PM
If they have Grant and Sypha I hope they go for more original designs and not make them turnout like the Judgment ones(mostly Grants, I didn't mind Sypha's).

Castlevania Judgement - They are huge! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SyYIo03X0E#)

Me too Starwind, me too  ;D
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Post by: CastleDan on May 23, 2012, 04:28:18 PM
Eh, I think this game is a spirtual Castlevania 3 but if the rumors are true that both Simon and Trevor are being used wouldn't it make sense that the next game would be alucard staring?

Symphony of the night was one of the biggest entries,there take on it would bring huge hype. Especially since rumors have said the locations in that game are non-linear like arkam city..
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Post by: uzo on May 23, 2012, 04:39:34 PM
I disagree wholeheartedly. There were plenty of tracks she did that had a lot of Castlevania feel to them. She just counterbalanced them with some other stuff that was jazzy and upbeat. And, she only did a majority of the work on the soundtrack. Vincent Diamante did parts too, and his were jazz-based as well.

I did a review of the soundtrack, actually. Check it out (http://www.originalsoundversion.com/candy-for-the-skull-skullgirls-ost-review/) and see what I mean. Yamane has a distinct style of music that you can still hear even in non-Castlevania games.

Honestly, Cox and Arajou need to look at what Yamane did with Lament of Innocence and Curse of Darkness, to get a good feel of how moody, ambient Castlevania music can be used effectively to be both background noise AND memorable at the same time, and how to apply that to their games for the future. (including LoS2 and Mirror)

I agree here. Anti-Skullgirl Lab 8 Stage, Grand Cathedral Stage, Streets of New Meridian Stage, and Class Notes are probably my favorite of the OST. Great stuff, and I love how Yamane tackles the jazz components of the OST. I have a soft spot for Jazz as is.
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Post by: beingthehero on May 23, 2012, 04:42:30 PM
If they have Grant and Sypha I hope they go for more original designs and not make them turnout like the Judgment ones(mostly Grants, I didn't mind Sypha's).

You have to wonder if Obata was doing his damnedest to come up with the worst designs possible. I wonder if that game would have fared better if they used the original designs of each character.

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Post by: Sindra on May 23, 2012, 04:48:51 PM
Can we start having all these rumors and links compiled on the first post, please? I think it'll keep the questions and requests of "Can you post that rumor again?!' or "Links please!!" to a minimum, and prevent the rest of us digging through what has, in a very short time, become a massive thread.

Either CastleDan or a mod could do it.

Thanks.
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Post by: CastleDan on May 23, 2012, 04:52:04 PM
I'd love to do it but even I'm having a hard time compiling all the info because so many things are contradicting other info..etc..etc...

If rumors are correct though friday we will start seeing some screens...so that will help clear things up for sure.
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Post by: Sindra on May 23, 2012, 05:05:43 PM
I missed where it was said there were going to be screenshots. Where'd that info come from?
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Post by: CastleDan on May 23, 2012, 05:09:41 PM
I missed where it was said there were going to be screenshots. Where'd that info come from?

The same place where all this crazy info has been coming from..4chan which is not always a reliable source to begin with.
It's hard to peg what is true and what isn't. I want to believe that Paul network site because they were pretty in-depth and he was right about the Playstation Brawl game. Who knows though...who knows..
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Post by: Foffy on May 23, 2012, 05:19:57 PM
I missed where it was said there were going to be screenshots. Where'd that info come from?

Someone on /v/ or /vg/. Supposedly, Eurogamer is supposed to be the site that has the images for Friday, and that's where the artwork claims came from, too.
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Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on May 23, 2012, 05:53:11 PM
Someone PM me the rumors, and I will append them to the first thread, if the OP cannot or has not.
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Post by: Fofa on May 23, 2012, 06:21:35 PM
I'm waiting for official news until I can get excited for this. Sorry, but if I don't have real, genuine proof, I can't buy it.
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Post by: GuyStarwind on May 23, 2012, 06:34:49 PM
You have to wonder if Obata was doing his damnedest to come up with the worst designs possible. I wonder if that game would have fared better if they used the original designs of each character.
I personally think it would have done better with the original designs.
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Post by: Thomas Belmont on May 23, 2012, 07:08:35 PM
I personally think it would have done better with the original designs.

Definitely agree!
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Post by: VladCT on May 23, 2012, 07:12:33 PM
I think we can all agree that even Kojima's BDSiMon is still better than Obata's Simon BELTmont.
Seriously, I don't think even Nomura's designs have that much belts.
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Post by: Pemburu Vampir on May 23, 2012, 07:32:05 PM
Obata's design on CVJ characters are just shitty.
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Post by: Ahasverus on May 23, 2012, 07:52:15 PM
Obata's design on CVJ characters are just shitty.
Just an universal Truth.

I'm somewhat dubious about the "artwork" leak, if it was real there were screencaps and google cache links, don't you think? (It's 4chan! They need to take pictures to live)
Still, I think it's great that the general public is just excited and anxious to see what's coming. You can feel that in the air.
Even in here, we are a big happy family thanks to this topic :joyfultears:

<------------ P.S: Woooa guys, hang on  :o
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Post by: Sumac on May 23, 2012, 08:02:09 PM
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I am disturbed about the way you talk about the forum populace, and I don't think that what you're saying helps the situation at all.
It's like "Don't mind these people, they are morons.  But we tolerate them because we're higher beings.  **adjusts monocle**".
You've read this in wrong tone.
I didn't mean to call other people morons or imply that I consider all who disagree with them as "higher beings". I am not one of these people and I am all for equality, that is why I state my opinions as is. I meant, that if some people like those games to a point where they prefer not to see problems with them, then left them with that. No need to argue - it is useless.
My post was an attempt of bringing peace and end long wided speeches about how one side is wrong, instead its just brought trolls. Well, not the first time.
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Post by: OSM on May 23, 2012, 08:04:22 PM
I don't believe the artwork leaked, no one is seriously that careless. I call BS on it, but I believe the descriptions about Simon and Trevor. Multiple anons said the same thing about Trevor's appearance, and they confirmed he's the only character playable in the demo.
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Post by: beingthehero on May 23, 2012, 08:24:16 PM
It might be possible that Eurogamer had received a presskit with images from Konami, and accidentally posted them early. But that's just speculation on speculation.
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Post by: Maedhros on May 23, 2012, 09:11:00 PM

<------------ P.S: Woooa guys, hang on  :o
Lol... that's ridiculous...
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Post by: VladCT on May 23, 2012, 09:17:51 PM
Now that you've mentioned it, almost everyone's rep seems to fluctuate here.
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Post by: Ahasverus on May 23, 2012, 09:24:04 PM
Lol... that's ridiculous...
That's why everyone hates me ;)

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Now that you've mentioned it, almost everyone's rep seems to fluctuate here.
Except Crisis, the man surpassed Jorge in popularity in /days/ :o you're on fire man.


But I have to confess, that the system works, it makes you think twice before saying the first flamebait thought that crosses your mind, especially in hot discussions (Hint: It's not very intelligent). It's still kinda broken (by definition) but hey!, The bright side  :P
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Post by: Foffy on May 23, 2012, 09:32:04 PM
Now that you've mentioned it, almost everyone's rep seems to fluctuate here.

It is our creature of chaos.
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Post by: Flame on May 23, 2012, 09:32:58 PM
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it makes you think twice before saying the first flamebait thought that crosses your mind,
or just the first unpopular opinion. That doesnt sound like it works, IMO.

but that said, dayum, dat rep.
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Post by: Ahasverus on May 23, 2012, 09:39:38 PM
or just the first unpopular opinion. That doesnt sound like it works, IMO.
Touché.

I hope that the wise use of the system gets into our collective conscience.

(And guys, I think my rep is way too high, or some user's is way too low, because we have great people here and I feel kinda.. bad :P ... Still love you guys!)

OMG (With my purely absurd self-given powers) I declare this the unofficial topic of CV-brotherhood .
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OnTopic: The 4chan LoS2-MoF thread is dead/deleted. I have problem with standing a long time in that webpage so if anyone could take a watch at it once or twice in search for information it would be very appreciated
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Post by: Maedhros on May 23, 2012, 09:43:09 PM
The rep system is kinda ridiculous actually... not that I care, but I could ask someone to go in all topics giving pluses to get my reputation high as hell. Or make a clone and do the same.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on May 23, 2012, 09:45:00 PM
You know guys, as an Admin, I can see who votes up on who's post.
And I see that someone's taken a liking to Ahasverus, voting up anything he posts, going way back... quite a bit.

Just sayin'.  It's not like I'm blind, here.

EDIT- I have measures to prevent n00b accounts from doing that in place now.

Fun fact, the Stats page of the forum tells you who's voting the most.
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Post by: Ahasverus on May 23, 2012, 09:45:53 PM
You know guys, as an Admin, I can see who votes up on who's post.
And I see that someone's taken a liking to Ahasverus, voting up anything he posts, going way back... quite a bit.

Just sayin'.  It's not like I'm blind, here.
Hahah I think no one is :P

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OnTopic: The 4chan LoS2-MoF thread is dead/deleted. I have problem with standing a long time in that webpage so if anyone could take a watch at it once or twice in search for information it would be very appreciated
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Post by: e105beta on May 23, 2012, 09:54:19 PM
You know guys, as an Admin, I can see who votes up on who's post.
And I see that someone's taken a liking to Ahasverus, voting up anything he posts, going way back... quite a bit.

Just sayin'.  It's not like I'm blind, here.

EDIT- I have measures to prevent n00b accounts from doing that in place now.

Fun fact, the Stats page of the forum tells you who's voting the most.

I'll admit to getting Ahasverus up to 0 rep last time it fluctuated, if just to spite all the "IGA post +1, Cox post -1" but holy crap, his current rep means someone just +1'd 276 posts.
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Post by: GuyStarwind on May 23, 2012, 10:16:44 PM
Yeah holy crap 203 respect is a lot!

Btw how do I get to this stat page?
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Post by: Ahasverus on May 23, 2012, 10:36:49 PM
Yeah holy crap 203 respect is a lot!
And completely unfair. Jorge and I had a little chat and we hope everything is in order now, still, I wanna thank my fan(s) Hahahahah.

Here's hoping I get that +203 in a legitmate way, someday  :)
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Post by: Thomas Belmont on May 23, 2012, 10:38:16 PM
And completely unfair. Jorge and I had a little chat and we hope everything is in order now, still, I wanna thank my fan(s) Hahahahah.

Here's hoping I get that +203 in a legitmate way, someday  :)

Lol. Weren't you at like -90 before the mix up?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 23, 2012, 10:44:19 PM
Lol. Weren't you at like -90 before the mix up?
You'd be surprised by how many shady hands had been involved in my rep, good and bad  :P

People, this rating system could get helpful, or annoying, depending of you (us). Why not choose the pleasant way?  ;)
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Post by: Maedhros on May 23, 2012, 10:51:52 PM
I'll admit to getting Ahasverus up to 0 rep last time it fluctuated, if just to spite all the "IGA post +1, Cox post -1" but holy crap, his current rep means someone just +1'd 276 posts.
He had a negative rep for a reason.
If the system isn't exploited like I've said before, I think it's a good system to measure respect. I'm an admin on another forum, we have a system like that (but we can't remove our votes).
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Thomas Belmont on May 23, 2012, 10:52:34 PM
You'd be surprised by how many shady hands had been involved in my rep, good and bad  :P

People, this rating system could get helpful, or annoying, depending of you (us). Why not choose the pleasant way?  ;)

Ha! It's like you got a second chance in life.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: e105beta on May 23, 2012, 10:54:51 PM
He had a negative rep for a reason.
If the system isn't exploited like I've said before, I think it's a good system to measure respect. I'm an admin on another forum, we have a system like that (but we can't remove our votes).

The problem is they don't measure respect. They measure agreement.

Too many people on the board will -1 just because they don't agree with what someone said.

But back on topic:

Since there are no new rumors at the moment, let's talk about what we would want out of this game.

Personally, I'm hoping for a IGA/MercurySteam collab that features a dual character system in the vein of Castlevania 3, starring a Belmont and Alucard. The game would be a 2.5D sidescroller, and would combine a solid (not necessarily robust) combat system with Classicvania level design and Metroidvania exploration.

IMO, the art should be similar to Lords, and the music should be done by Araujo but with notes out of Yamane's book.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Neobelmont on May 23, 2012, 10:56:33 PM
You'd be surprised by how many shady hands had been involved in my rep, good and bad  :P

People, this rating system could get helpful, or annoying, depending of you (us). Why not choose the pleasant way?  ;)

Whhat is the pleasant way?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 23, 2012, 10:58:39 PM
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Whhat is the pleasant way?
With it not being a pop contest or "I don't like you so -1 for you!" But something like "Hey, this man added positively to de discussion (Even if I don't agree with him) +1 or "Man this is such a annoying trol/offensive post", so -1. That's my idea though.

Personally, I'm hoping for a IGA/MercurySteam collab that features a dual character system in the vein of Castlevania 3, starring a Belmont and Alucard. The game would be a 2.5D sidescroller, and would combine a solid (not necessarily robust) combat system with Classicvania level design and Metroidvania exploration.

IMO, the art should be similar to Lords, and the music should be done by Araujo but with notes out of Yamane's book.
That's my whole wish-list too.

Add stages based on CVIII and we have a deal (Expecially the falling rocks stage, it just can't be missed)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Thomas Belmont on May 23, 2012, 10:59:48 PM
I hope a proper Death is introduced. I didn't like how LoS insinuated that Zobek is his equivalence.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Maedhros on May 23, 2012, 11:01:24 PM
I hope the game is difficult as fuck.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: e105beta on May 23, 2012, 11:02:43 PM
I hope a proper Death is introduced. I didn't like how LoS insinuated that Zobek is his equivalence.

Eh, I kind of like the new route they're taking with Death, but I can definitely see where it would be lacking.

Though I never understood why Death served Dracula. If he's really a primeval spirit, Dracula shouldn't have had any hold over him. Was this explained thoroughly in Lament? I never finished it.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Charlotte-nyo:3 on May 23, 2012, 11:04:17 PM
Yeah, it was covered in Lament, but I doubt that explanation applies to Lords of Shadow's universe.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 23, 2012, 11:04:39 PM
Though I never understood why Death served Dracula. If he's really a primeval spirit, Dracula shouldn't have had any hold over him. Was this explained thoroughly in Lament? I never finished it.
By the magic of an alchemic stone. Isn't it? (Not so fancy, I know)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Thomas Belmont on May 23, 2012, 11:05:57 PM
Eh, I kind of like the new route they're taking with Death, but I can definitely see where it would be lacking.

Though I never understood why Death served Dracula. If he's really a primeval spirit, Dracula shouldn't have had any hold over him. Was this explained thoroughly in Lament? I never finished it.

I agree. I would assume that Death would be Dracula's superior. Didn't Lament mention that he was being controlled by a stone?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: e105beta on May 23, 2012, 11:06:06 PM
By the magic of an alchemic stone. Isn't it? (Not so fancy, I know)

So he's just enslaved?

Makes Zobek sound more powerful, to be honest >.>
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Thomas Belmont on May 23, 2012, 11:07:40 PM
So he's just enslaved?

Makes Zobek sound more powerful, to be honest >.>

Meh...I'd rather Death be the actual Grim Reaper..
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: e105beta on May 23, 2012, 11:09:41 PM
Meh...I'd rather Death be the actual Grim Reaper..

Agreed, though I'm not sure how he'd fit in now that Satan has shown up.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Thomas Belmont on May 23, 2012, 11:10:30 PM
Agreed, though I'm not sure how he'd fit in now that Satan has shown up.

He'd be the soul collector.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: cecil-kain on May 23, 2012, 11:13:29 PM
If Zobek is truly Death's "replacement" in the Lords of Shadow universe, Mr Dracul apparently goes without his primary ally for several hundred years...
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: e105beta on May 23, 2012, 11:14:12 PM
He'd be the soul collector.

So, now that the two are no longer allies, would he be on Satan's side, or Dracula's?

If Zobek is truly Death's "replacement" in the Lords of Shadow universe, Mr Dracul apparently goes without his primary ally for several hundred years...

Not necessarily. Zobek and Dracul could have had a falling out somewhere along the line. After all, Zobek does admit that Dracul was once mighty.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Charlotte-nyo:3 on May 23, 2012, 11:14:35 PM
So he's just enslaved?

Makes Zobek sound more powerful, to be honest >.>

I'm not sure it ever really comes off that way in Lament. It just says he serves whoever has the stone. I could've missed some line of dialogue where it's implied to be more of an enslavement though, since it's been a long time since I've played Lament, but Death doesn't get much face-time in that game so I can't imagine where it'd be. Also, the way he's portrayed and the circumstances actually make him come off looking relatively badass:
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Neobelmont on May 23, 2012, 11:18:35 PM
With it not being a pop contest or "I don't like you so -1 for you!" But something like "Hey, this man added positively to de discussion (Even if I don't agree with him) +1 or "Man this is such a annoying trol/offensive post", so -1. That's my idea though.
That's my whole wish-list too.

Add stages based on CVIII and we have a deal (Expecially the falling rocks stage, it just can't be missed)

Yes basically either if it's good ok, bad nay

Edit random thought I want to see grandma Sonia
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Thomas Belmont on May 23, 2012, 11:25:22 PM
So, now that the two are no longer allies, would he be on Satan's side, or Dracula's?

Maybe Death worked for Satan until Gabriel/Dracula defeated Death in battle. Since he was the first ever to do so he was forced to pledge allegiance to Gabriel/Dracula.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Flame on May 23, 2012, 11:27:51 PM
Yeah they never really explain WHY Death is bound to some magical macguffin like the crimson stone, but most other CV games seem to count Death as Dracula's confidante and friend. His ONLY friend.

If I recall, it's more based around the concept of Japanese death Gods that the idea arose that he isnt the grim reaper, but just "a" Death God. Or just some powerful necromancer much like Zobek.
of course I dont think the games themselves ever really went there.

I actually find it interesting that they can be friends, given how their connection works. Im guessing that simply after so long a time of being together they simply bonded. But now, if someone else theoretically acquired the stone, would that mean Death would betray and abandon Dracula?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Thomas Belmont on May 23, 2012, 11:30:09 PM
Yeah they never really explain WHY Death is bound to some magical macguffin like the crimson stone, but most other CV games seem to count Death as Dracula's confidante and friend. His ONLY friend.

If I recall, it's more based around the concept of Japanese death Gods that the idea arose that he isnt the grim reaper, but just "a" Death God. Or just some powerful necromancer much like Zobek.
of course I dont think the games themselves ever really went there.

I actually find it interesting that they can be friends, given how their connection works. Im guessing that simply after so long a time of being together they simply bonded. But now, if someone else theoretically acquired the stone, would that mean Death would betray and abandon Dracula?

According to games like HoD it seems like Death really cares about Dracula.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Munchy on May 24, 2012, 12:00:00 AM
I hope the game is difficult as fuck.

I'm down for this provided it's more than just enemies hitting way harder. And them taking roughly a billion whip lashes before dying.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: GuyStarwind on May 24, 2012, 12:11:30 AM
Well, in the new game Zobek will walk in and a fireball will hit him in the face and after a bit he'll reveal he's a skeleton. He'll then turn to the camera and wink.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Chernabogue on May 24, 2012, 12:56:51 AM
Zobek asks help to Gabriel in the ending of LoS, but Gabriel asks him where he has been all this time. It certainely means Zobek wasn't an ally of Drac.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: JR on May 24, 2012, 01:05:32 AM
I noticed something weird...when I did a google search for "new castlevania image," (searching results within last 24 hours only) the bottom of the page said:

In response to a complaint we received under the US Digital Millennium Copyright Act, we have removed 1 result(s) from this page. If you wish, you may read the DMCA complaint that caused the removal(s) at ChillingEffects.org.

Not completely sure what this means. Could this possibly lend some weight to the claim that the images really were leaked and Konami had them pulled??

EDIT: Eh, nevermind. Here's what the top several lines say if you click on the complaint notice:

Notice Unavailable
DMCA (Copyright) Complaint to Google

Sent by: Microsoft
To: Google

The cease-and-desist or legal threat you requested is not yet available.

Chilling Effects will post the notice after we process it.


So if it was Microsoft and not Konami that filed the complaint, I guess this is irrelevant.  :-\
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Neobelmont on May 24, 2012, 01:29:42 AM
just for the hell of it I put this down

CastleVania-MirrorOfFate.net

Ehh. all I got was this a 403forbidden

and

Forbidden
You don't have permission to access / on this server.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Apache Server at www.alex-shepherd.com (http://www.alex-shepherd.com) Port 80


worth a try at least right?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Francis on May 24, 2012, 02:49:42 AM
Wow, 67 pages just for a rumor? impressive.I've chose  a good time to return to the dungeon  ;D
Anyway, my hopes are for a game fitted on the old timeline, i don't bother if it's IGA or Cox in charge.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: The Silverlord on May 24, 2012, 03:02:42 AM
They're redirecting anything on the CastleVania-MirrorOfFate.net domain (194.6.194.67) through to alex-shepherd.com (78.46.2.147)

The initial HTTP hit is a 302 (Found) and the alex-shepherd.com reports the 403 Forbidden.

The CastleVania-MirrorOfFate.net domain was registered on 20 Feb 2012, and interestingly it was registered via Konami Europe headquarters in Frankfurt (and good old Christian Pfeffer, who I remembered e-mailed me at the end of the online Gradius V competition) as opposed to being registered by someone in Japan.

Bizarrely, SSL (port 443 as opposed to HTTP 80) https://CastleVania-MirrorOfFate.net (https://CastleVania-MirrorOfFate.net) redirects to one http://www.konami-pes2013.com/ (http://www.konami-pes2013.com/)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Nagumo on May 24, 2012, 03:29:20 AM
Alright, I'm going to try and ask IGA if he is going to E3 this year. If he's not going then it's probably Mercury Steam who is developing this game.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: The Silverlord on May 24, 2012, 04:10:34 AM
Something here . . . Lords of Shadow 2 domain names redirect to the same www.alex-shepherd.com (http://www.alex-shepherd.com).  I think this inextricably ties Lords of Shadow 2 to Mirror of Fate in terms of each games' existence.  castlevania-lordsofshadow2.com was registered on the same day by Christian (20 Feb 2012).  It appears he was given a list of domain names and proceeded to register them all.

A search on Name Droppers (http://www.namedroppers.org (http://www.namedroppers.org)) reveals the following 'CastleVania-' domain names:

castlevania-lordsofshadow.com (REDIRECT to http://www.konami-castlevania.com/ (http://www.konami-castlevania.com/))
castlevania-lordsofshadow.net (REDIRECT to http://www.konami-castlevania.com/ (http://www.konami-castlevania.com/))
konami-castlevania-lordsofshadow.com (403 alex-shepherd)
konami-castlevania-lordsofshadow.net (403 alex-shepherd)
castlevania-lordsofshadow2.com (403 alex-shepherd)
castlevania-lordsofshadow2.net (403 alex-shepherd)
konami-castlevania-lordsofshadow2.com (403 alex-shepherd)
konami-castlevania-lordsofshadow2.net (403 alex-shepherd)
castlevania-mirroroffate.com   (403 alex-shepherd)
castlevania-mirroroffate.net   (403 alex-shepherd)

HTTPS all to the PES2013 site.

Also showing up is:

castlevania-themovie.com [German, registered by one Mischa Waschke, but I don't think she's with or affiliated with KONAMI]
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Charlotte-nyo:3 on May 24, 2012, 05:37:37 AM
According to games like HoD it seems like Death really cares about Dracula.

I am now imagining some picture of Dracula sitting somewhere with Death next to him blushing like an anime school girl.

Well, in the new game Zobek will walk in and a fireball will hit him in the face and after a bit he'll reveal he's a skeleton. He'll then turn to the camera and wink.

How can a skeleton wink?  ;D
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on May 24, 2012, 05:41:02 AM
Yeah they never really explain WHY Death is bound to some magical macguffin like the crimson stone, but most other CV games seem to count Death as Dracula's confidante and friend. His ONLY friend.

If I recall, it's more based around the concept of Japanese death Gods that the idea arose that he isnt the grim reaper, but just "a" Death God. Or just some powerful necromancer much like Zobek.
of course I dont think the games themselves ever really went there.

I actually find it interesting that they can be friends, given how their connection works. Im guessing that simply after so long a time of being together they simply bonded. But now, if someone else theoretically acquired the stone, would that mean Death would betray and abandon Dracula?

Castlevania-dirge of inebriation.avi (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYxQAL8P2g4#)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: VladCT on May 24, 2012, 05:43:01 AM
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How can a skeleton wink?  ;D
Maybe he has flaming balls that can shapeshift for expressions in his eye sockets? :-X
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: shelverton. on May 24, 2012, 06:07:37 AM
If Konami already registered something with "lordsofshadow2" in it, does that mean that the game will be called that? I always thought that it would have a unique subtitle. I'm actually a liiiiittle disappointed here. What's next? LoS 3, 4, 5 and 6?

Well well. Time will tell.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Nagumo on May 24, 2012, 06:12:36 AM
I think all of those domains registered there link to this "alex shepherd" if no website has been made yet. Most likely that guy is the owner or something of that domain registering website.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Chernabogue on May 24, 2012, 06:21:53 AM
Alex Shepherd is a character from Silent Hill apparently. (http://silenthill.wikia.com/wiki/Alex_Shepherd)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: shelverton. on May 24, 2012, 06:33:20 AM
Alex Shepherd is a character from Silent Hill apparently. (http://silenthill.wikia.com/wiki/Alex_Shepherd)

SilentVania came to mind. Which is a terrible idea. However, I wouldn't mind Pyramid Head as a secret easter egg boss fight or something. It's a better fit than any other Konami characters I can think of. Except maybe Neclord from Suikoden.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: CastleDan on May 24, 2012, 06:51:37 AM
I have a bad feeling Lords of shadows 2 being on all those systems is a lie.
I want it to be true but....i'm having major doubts.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ring_of_Varda on May 24, 2012, 07:59:15 AM
to be honest after finding out that a majority of the leaks were coming from 4chan i have major reservations about the whole thing. What i really want to know is the source for PGN and the dutch website that broke the news originally. My mind will be put at ease if the rumors are true and we actually get screen shots tmr.

*heres to hoping*
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: cecil-kain on May 24, 2012, 08:06:39 AM
I have a bad feeling Lords of shadows 2 being on all those systems is a lie.
I want it to be true but....i'm having major doubts.

Considering LoS1 was never released for the Wii, I think LoS2 would have a much harder time selling on the Wii-U.  Nintendo doesn't exactly have a great track record when it comes to mature content developed by western game studios --but, who knows...

As for the Vita --well that's even harder to speculate...  Hideo Kojima seemed really excited about transfarring though.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 24, 2012, 08:13:04 AM
Considering LoS1 was never released for the Wii, I think LoS2 would have a much harder time selling on the Wii-U.  Nintendo doesn't exactly have a great track record when it comes to mature content developed by western game studios --but, who knows...
I think it would be benefical to the game if it was released as a WiiU launch title, being it the only action title at launch (If I'm not mistaken, Arkham City and Darksiders come at a later date). Publisher always say that there's a biggest possibility to sell new IP's early in the gen and establish them (See, Assassins Creed) because people, well, have less /choice/.

I only hope it's not released the same day as Arkham City  :P #KonamiLogic
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: CastleDan on May 24, 2012, 08:14:21 AM
Considering LoS1 was never released for the Wii, I think LoS2 would have a much harder time selling on the Wii-U.  Nintendo doesn't exactly have a great track record when it comes to mature content developed by western game studios --but, who knows...

As for the Vita --well that's even harder to speculate...  Hideo Kojima seemed really excited about transfarring though.


That's the one thing that gives me hope. Hideo Kojima is a huge Playstation supporter, and he's obviously big on transfarring so it's certainly a possibility.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: e105beta on May 24, 2012, 08:30:00 AM
Considering LoS1 was never released for the Wii, I think LoS2 would have a much harder time selling on the Wii-U.  Nintendo doesn't exactly have a great track record when it comes to mature content developed by western game studios --but, who knows...

As for the Vita --well that's even harder to speculate...  Hideo Kojima seemed really excited about transfarring though.

No, Nintendo really doesn't, but I get the impression they're trying to change that with the Wii U, what with Darksiders, Arkham Asylum, and Assassin's Creed 3.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 24, 2012, 08:50:38 AM
No, Nintendo really doesn't, but I get the impression they're trying to change that with the Wii U, what with Darksiders, Arkham Asylum, and Assassin's Creed 3.


So....they have started learning their lesson at nintendo?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: CastleDan on May 24, 2012, 08:52:43 AM

So....they have started learning their lesson at nintendo?

If Nintendo learned there lesson they wouldn't have just decided to make a system on par with ps3 and xbox360.

In a year the next systems will be out and once again nintendo will be out of date. I guess WiiU can live off of old ports though during that period of time.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on May 24, 2012, 09:13:46 AM
Nintendo usually does well because by the time the other systems come out, it's got a healthy library and some stuff...
...it's like they don't want to participate in the pissing contest.  Good for them.  Even if it can at times bite 'em in the ass.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Oralox on May 24, 2012, 09:40:51 AM
Not sure if late but The Lords Of Shadow Facebook page updated with a cool new cover and a link to The Dragon Returns

http://www.facebook.com/lordsofshadow (http://www.facebook.com/lordsofshadow)

http://www.thedragonreturns.com/ (http://www.thedragonreturns.com/)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Nagumo on May 24, 2012, 09:43:36 AM
Lol, didn't somebody suggest something with the word Dragon as the title for LoS2?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Kingshango on May 24, 2012, 09:45:42 AM
Lol, didn't somebody suggest something with the word Dragon as the title for LoS2?

*Ahem*  :)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ring_of_Varda on May 24, 2012, 09:45:53 AM
apparently it says CLOS teaser page in the source code but i cant confirm.


-EDIT-

check this out


<meta property="og:title" content="The Dragon Returns" />
   <meta property="og:type" content="website" />
   <meta property="og:url" content="http://www.thedragonreturns.com/" />
   <meta property="og:site_name" content="CLOS Teaser Page" />
   <meta property="fb:admins" content="1210749030" />
   <meta property="fb:app_id" content="292424234184494" />
   <meta property="og:image" content="http://www.thedragonreturns.com/_img/og_logo.jpg"/>
   <meta property="og:description" content="Dare you face the evil darkness? It is written that the creatures behind that door will return very soon to claim the souls of your loved ones, and send you straight to hell! Be aware!"/>
   <meta property="og:locale" content="en_US"/>
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Francis on May 24, 2012, 09:46:09 AM
If Konami already registered something with "lordsofshadow2" in it, does that mean that the game will be called that? I always thought that it would have a unique subtitle. I'm actually a liiiiittle disappointed here. What's next? LoS 3, 4, 5 and 6?

Well well. Time will tell.
No thanks that'll be lame.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 24, 2012, 09:48:53 AM
Shit just got real
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/559484_10151752017840697_220827690696_24089461_1845436072_n.jpg)

http://www.thedragonreturns.com/ (http://www.thedragonreturns.com/)
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8010/7262606088_1cd536fdca_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: e105beta on May 24, 2012, 09:49:08 AM
If Nintendo learned there lesson they wouldn't have just decided to make a system on par with ps3 and xbox360.

In a year the next systems will be out and once again nintendo will be out of date. I guess WiiU can live off of old ports though during that period of time.

To be fair, we've kind of reached the point where performance and graphics technology give a lot less bag for their buck; that is, the cost of increased performance is proportionally increasing and thus less efficient.

Based on the information that has been floating around, the Wii U is supposed to be 25%-50% more powerful than PS3. Given that, and the fact that the PS3 is, according to Sony, supposed to get at least 4 more years out of it, I don't think we're going to be seeing any sort of generational gap like we did with the Wii. If anything, it's putting Nintendo on a completely different release timeline, which, if the new 3rd party relationships do work, could seriously end up hurting future console sales for their competitors.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 24, 2012, 09:50:12 AM
http://www.thedragonreturns.com/ (http://www.thedragonreturns.com/)
It begins.
Shit just got real
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/559484_10151752017840697_220827690696_24089461_1845436072_n.jpg)
I can't tell if there are dragons flying around or that's the new Dracula's castle.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ring_of_Varda on May 24, 2012, 09:51:26 AM
lol since apparently quite a few missed my last post. CHECK THE SOURCE CODE THERE IS SOME COOL STUFF.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Francis on May 24, 2012, 09:51:36 AM
It begins.
Yeah, it start 31/5  i can't wait  ;D
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: crisis on May 24, 2012, 09:51:58 AM
cool
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: e105beta on May 24, 2012, 09:52:57 AM
It begins.

Shit just got real
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/559484_10151752017840697_220827690696_24089461_1845436072_n.jpg)

Oh shit, son
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 24, 2012, 09:53:02 AM
lol since apparently quite a few missed my last post. CHECK THE SOURCE CODE THERE IS SOME COOL STUFF.
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Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ring_of_Varda on May 24, 2012, 09:56:34 AM
apparently that message comes up if you copy a link or something?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 24, 2012, 09:58:51 AM
May 31st is when Konami has their pre-E3 show too.

I think we found our reveal dates for both games guys. :D

7 days!
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Kingshango on May 24, 2012, 10:01:10 AM
Watch it turn out to be game staring Sisqo: The return of the Dragon!.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: crisis on May 24, 2012, 10:03:39 AM
Quote from: Kingshango
Watch it turn out to be game staring Sisqo: The return of the Dragon!.

LOL
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 24, 2012, 10:05:37 AM
I don't see any present day happenings in that artwork either. Maybe MoF is a direct follow up to The Dragon Returns instead of a prequel happening many centuries prior to it.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 24, 2012, 10:07:18 AM
I don't see any present day happenings in that artwork either. Maybe MoF is a direct follow up to The Dragon Returns instead of a prequel happening many centuries prior to it.

The LoS epilogue was just a "safe measure" in case LoS wasn't too succesful I think. If LoS flopped they only had to make the sequel in present times and end the series. It wasn't the case so they are telling the full story now, and i expect each newq game telling a little part of the present day story in the epilogue.
The LoS sequel will not be set at the present, that would be the last game in the new series.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: CastleDan on May 24, 2012, 10:08:09 AM
Is anyone gonna complain now that it's not dark enough?......coughs..

Anyways, does this confirm all the rumors? I hope it's coming out for everything!
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Nagumo on May 24, 2012, 10:10:38 AM
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Oooh, Castlevania: Lords of Shadow 2 I believe. RT @Konami: The Dragon Returns on 5.31.12 http://thedragonreturns.com (http://thedragonreturns.com)

This got retweeted by Cox. I guess that means we're dealing with LoS 2 in case somebody has any doubt.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 24, 2012, 10:11:36 AM
This got retweeted by Cox. I guess that means we're dealing with LoS 2 in case somebody has any doubt.
Should someone make a new thread then?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: jestercolony on May 24, 2012, 10:12:57 AM
>.>

<.<

I just got a nerdon....

/blush
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Kingshango on May 24, 2012, 10:13:59 AM
Something I noticed, there's no snow or ice all over the castle and it looks bigger than before.

Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Foffy on May 24, 2012, 10:15:16 AM
Something I noticed, there's no snow or ice all over the castle and it looks bigger than before.

Gabula probably has his own castle now, not some Berndhart hand-me-down.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: CastleDan on May 24, 2012, 10:15:35 AM
Something I noticed, there's no snow or ice all over the castle and it looks bigger than before.

Maybe rumors about it being non-linear are true.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 24, 2012, 10:16:59 AM
Should someone make a new thread then?
Thread created http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php/topic,4965.0.html (http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php/topic,4965.0.html) :)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Neobelmont on May 24, 2012, 10:21:43 AM
Shit just got real
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/559484_10151752017840697_220827690696_24089461_1845436072_n.jpg)

http://www.thedragonreturns.com/ (http://www.thedragonreturns.com/)
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8010/7262606088_1cd536fdca_b.jpg)

Can I say this is it my body oh god my body. Holy water just hit the fan with this.  ;D
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: crisis on May 24, 2012, 10:23:30 AM
LOL your body?? what's wrong?

yea this is good news but sheesh, calm down everyone
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Foffy on May 24, 2012, 10:24:12 AM
LOL your body?? what's wrong?

yea this is good news but sheesh, calm down everyone

Perhaps he means this..

S2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDq4URXOPlU#)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: jestercolony on May 24, 2012, 10:25:55 AM
...You know I just had a very odd thought... You know this talk about the Belmont thing for LoS? What if it isn't in fact a son, but in reality...Gabriel had a brother. ;p Like, maybe two children of the Cronqvist had been born, two held the same Belmont surname and both had been very unaware of each other's relation O.o
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Foffy on May 24, 2012, 10:26:56 AM
...You know I just had a very odd thought... You know this talk about the Belmont thing for LoS? What if it isn't in fact a son, but in reality...Gabriel had a brother. ;p

Mathias? :3c
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: crisis on May 24, 2012, 10:28:25 AM
or like how Wolverine has a brother called Sabertooth yeah? hmm

I dig what youre saying
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Neobelmont on May 24, 2012, 10:30:28 AM
Perhaps he means this..

S2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDq4URXOPlU#)

M. Bison "Yes Yes!" Widescreen HD reupload (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs#ws)


LOL your body?? what's wrong?

yea this is good news but sheesh, calm down everyone

Never!!! This is not the time to be calm, this is the time to be excited and fangasm everywhere.  ;D
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Maedhros on May 24, 2012, 10:32:33 AM
Is anyone gonna complain now that it's not dark enough?......coughs..

Anyways, does this confirm all the rumors? I hope it's coming out for everything!
Yep, let's judge the entire game based in one artwork.

LoS had the same type of artwork... see how the game has turned...

LoS defense force, always mad as hell. They downvote shit and aren't afraid of anything.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 24, 2012, 10:36:37 AM
Holy crap you guys.

TWO Castlevanias in one E3.

Pinch me.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: e105beta on May 24, 2012, 10:39:38 AM
Holy crap you guys.

TWO Castlevanias in one E3.

Pinch me.

*pinched*
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Foffy on May 24, 2012, 10:43:01 AM
Holy crap you guys.

TWO Castlevanias in one E3.

Pinch me.

Welcome back to 2008! :3
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: crisis on May 24, 2012, 10:44:36 AM
I can't believe no one is excited that they found Bigfoots hair samples ready for DNA test

http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php/topic,4964.0.html (http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php/topic,4964.0.html)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 24, 2012, 10:44:53 AM
Welcome back to 2008! :3
What happened in 2008?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Foffy on May 24, 2012, 10:46:17 AM
What happened in 2008?

We had two Castlevania games at E3. And in 2003.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 24, 2012, 10:47:08 AM
We had two Castlevania games at E3. And in 2003.
This is actually the first E3 where I've paid attention to Castlevania. I didn't get into the series until ReBirth was about to come out.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Foffy on May 24, 2012, 11:21:08 AM
This is actually the first E3 where I've paid attention to Castlevania. I didn't get into the series until ReBirth was about to come out.

Jeez, you're rather new to the big batty franchise. I've had about a 15 year head start compared to you. :P
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: crisis on May 24, 2012, 11:24:09 AM
Oswaldy has a lot of catching up two

I've been playing since the 80's >_>
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: knightmere on May 24, 2012, 11:27:29 AM
My fandom began back in 1990 with Simon's Quest.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 24, 2012, 11:28:21 AM
Funny enough Aria of Sorrow was my first Castlevania game, and I ended up liking the original games more. I figured it would have been the other way around when I first started. :P
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Maedhros on May 24, 2012, 11:30:21 AM
My first Castlevania was Dracula X (SNES).
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 24, 2012, 11:31:37 AM
My first Castlevania was Dracula X (SNES).
I have a big love/hate relationship with that game. Poorly designed, but it's something of a novelty. When given the chance I can't help but still want to play it despite how ridiculously challenging and broken it is.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: cecil-kain on May 24, 2012, 11:32:31 AM
Been playing since NES Castlevania...

But the first Castlevania I ever bought with my own hard-earned cash was Super Castlevania IV...

Then Symphony of the Night showed me there were great pleasures to be enjoyed outside of Club Nintendo...
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Francis on May 24, 2012, 11:45:07 AM
Been playing since NES Castlevania...
Me too... oh i'm so old  :'(
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Neobelmont on May 24, 2012, 11:47:01 AM
My memory is not too good on this, but I do know that Dracula's curse made me into what I am today. A cv fan, but after the chainsaw guy in legacy of darkness I did not get back into the series until Portrait of ruin came out.


 Edit:No cvIII did more than just that it is why I play games in the first place. I guess my memory is more subjective than bad  ;D
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: shelverton. on May 24, 2012, 11:57:10 AM
I've also been playing since the original Castlevania, but to be honest it was Simon's Quest that made me a fan, and Super Castlevania 4 that made me fall completely and utterly in LUV with the series. Then I had a break from video games altogether in the late 90's and missed out on the N64 Castlevanias. I remember registering at these forums (albeit a much older version) in 2002 when Harmony of Dissonance came out. And I was hooked again. That's.... oh my... 10 years ago. I wonder how many hours I've spent at this site...

BTW: Does that make me worthy of the "super old dungeonite" award? Naaah. I guess I'm a "semi-old dungeonite"?

Or just "old".

Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Kamirine on May 24, 2012, 01:05:32 PM
My first game in the series (and first love) is Castlevania 3: Dracula's Curse. I can' t begin to describe the fond memories I have of taking turns and playing it with my brother. Mad Forest is my ringtone, lol.

As for the new info/pictures...hot DAMN, that castle is beautiful, creepy, just...wow. LOS2, you have my attention. Here's hoping for the best, because that is promising...
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: JR on May 24, 2012, 01:12:30 PM
Been playing Castlevania since Pong the first one...always liked the series, but never became a diehard fan until Lament of Innocence, strangely.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Rictrunks on May 24, 2012, 01:46:57 PM
 I have friend with Koji Igarashi (IGA) added on Facebook. I don't know if you can view this page: https://www.facebook.com/koji.igarashi1/posts/420267781341110 (https://www.facebook.com/koji.igarashi1/posts/420267781341110)
But someone has asked IGA if he is going to E3 this year. He responsed just one minute ago and he says he's not attending. The original feed:
question: 今年のE3に出席されるかどうか教えていただけますでしょうか?
answer: 今年のE3に行く予定はありません。
So 3DS Castlevania is from Mercury Steam I believe.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: whitedragon_nall on May 24, 2012, 01:52:34 PM
Oy.  I missed a lot since I last checked The Dungeon. Is it May 31st yet?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: cecil-kain on May 24, 2012, 02:14:01 PM
I have friend with Koji Igarashi (IGA) added on Facebook. I don't know if you can view this page: https://www.facebook.com/koji.igarashi1/posts/420267781341110 (https://www.facebook.com/koji.igarashi1/posts/420267781341110)
But someone has asked IGA if he is going to E3 this year. He responsed just one minute ago and he says he's not attending. The original feed:
question: 今年のE3に出席されるかどうか教えていただけますでしょうか?
answer: 今年のE3に行く予定はありません。
So 3DS Castlevania is from Mercury Steam I believe.

Confirmed...
Koji Igarashi "今年のE3に行く予定はありません。"
Is not scheduled to go to this year's E3. (Translated by Bing)

So, both games are in the Lords of Shadow universe after all?  Which source ever claimed IGA's involvement?  Their word should now be considered suspect...   :-X
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: shelverton. on May 24, 2012, 02:16:31 PM

Maybe someone completely unknown is producing Mirror of Fate? Cause I'm still not 100% convinced that MS is behind this game. But maybe they are. Oooh, I need to know more NOW before my head explodes.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 24, 2012, 02:16:47 PM
Was there ever any doubt both would be in the LoS universe?

Shame about IGA not attending, so then MS is really making both games on their own?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Maedhros on May 24, 2012, 02:20:48 PM
Maybe someone completely unknown is producing Mirror of Fate? Cause I'm still not 100% convinced that MS is behind this game. But maybe they are. Oooh, I need to know more NOW before my head explodes.
Kojima? Well, he has experience with with handheld games, that would surprise me, like Paul said.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: shelverton. on May 24, 2012, 02:24:27 PM
Kojima? Well, he has experience with with handheld games, that would surprise me, like Paul said.

Yeah, not only has he experience with handheld games, but he also has experience with "gimmicks" in handheld games, like Boktai. A camera feature in a Kojima game wouldn't come as a surprise to me. Though I was more thinking about someone completely new, maybe someone who's been working for Konami for a little while, and is now ready to step up and take on the producer role. Maybe we'll see the birth of a new IGA. Though I guess chances are this IS a Mercury Steam game after all. But I wonder if Cox is involved at all?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Neobelmont on May 24, 2012, 02:24:45 PM
Confirmed...
Koji Igarashi "今年のE3に行く予定はありません。"
Is not scheduled to go to this year's E3. (Translated by Bing)

So, both games are in the Lords of Shadow universe after all?  Which source ever claimed IGA's involvement?  Their word should now be considered suspect...   :-X

One can assume that iga is now done with the cv series right?

Maybe someone completely unknown is producing Mirror of Fate? Cause I'm still not 100% convinced that MS is behind this game. But maybe they are. Oooh, I need to know more NOW before my head explodes.

An unknown hmm. Who could it be; who would team up with MS? I rule out kojima productions their too busy with mgr, can it be a japanese team arc systems or vanilla ware; wayfoward; or a whole new team? It has to be an unknown and while it might be crazy what about retro studios working along side nintendo, Mercurysteam,konami,and kojima productions for mirror of fate(unlikely yes,but if this were true wow)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: crisis on May 24, 2012, 03:01:38 PM
Toru Hagihara
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Maedhros on May 24, 2012, 03:23:31 PM
Toru Hagihara
He's not at Konami, is he?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: DragonSlayr81 on May 24, 2012, 03:45:59 PM
I never thought IGA had a big role in MoF, anyway. Even if he is a part of the game, maybe he's something minor, like consultant. If he was, there'd really be no reason for him to attend E3, since his role would be minor.

But, then again, we'll have to see what happens. Right now, MoF seems the more mysterious of the two games. LoS2, we know what to expect(more or less). MoF is still a wild card.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Thomas Belmont on May 24, 2012, 04:02:23 PM
Maybe we'll see the birth of a new IGA.


Nooooooooooooooo!!!! ;)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: shelverton. on May 24, 2012, 04:43:59 PM

Nooooooooooooooo!!!! ;)

Hehe. Don't worry, I didn't mean an actual REBIRTH of him, with the same ideas and the same vision. I meant someone brand new, preferably someone who isn't already middle-aged (no offense to them), but rather a young talented person who shakes things up a bit. Much like IGA did once upon a time (like it or not). Cause there's no guarantee that some old-timer who's been in the industry since the 80's is gonna do better than someone who was born the same year as the original Castlevania saw the light of day.

I bet young, upcoming developers game designers are struggling to get recognition in this industry, at least when it comes to classic franchises, and especially in Japan. Or maybe I'm completely wrong and judgmental. Though I heard about a young woman working for Capcom developing Dragon's Dogma, who was bullied by her older colleagues to the point where she tried to take her own life.  :-\

Not that Dragon's Dogma is a classic franchise. Or even a franchise at all.

But anyway.
I HAVE FAITH IN TEH YOUTH!
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Thomas Belmont on May 24, 2012, 05:05:57 PM
Though I heard about a young woman working for Capcom developing Dragon's Dogma, who was bullied by her older colleagues to the point where she tried to take her own life.  :-\

Are you kidding me!? That's horrible! Where did you hear that? I fucking hate bullies.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: shelverton. on May 24, 2012, 05:35:29 PM
Are you kidding me!? That's horrible! Where did you hear that? I fucking hate bullies.

http://kotaku.com/5911353/japanese-game-developer-apparently-harassed-so-much-she-attempted-suicide (http://kotaku.com/5911353/japanese-game-developer-apparently-harassed-so-much-she-attempted-suicide)

I hate it too. And it's so sad that for some it doesn't even stop when they grow up.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: DragonSlayr81 on May 24, 2012, 05:39:26 PM
http://kotaku.com/5911353/japanese-game-developer-apparently-harassed-so-much-she-attempted-suicide (http://kotaku.com/5911353/japanese-game-developer-apparently-harassed-so-much-she-attempted-suicide)

I hate it too. And it's so sad that for some it doesn't even stop when they grow up.
Of course it doesn't stop. Sadly, every one of my jobs I've every had always had some asswipe that tries to start shit with people. The saying goes, "Old fools were once young fools.". Sometimes people just don't change.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Kamirine on May 24, 2012, 05:53:50 PM
http://kotaku.com/5911353/japanese-game-developer-apparently-harassed-so-much-she-attempted-suicide (http://kotaku.com/5911353/japanese-game-developer-apparently-harassed-so-much-she-attempted-suicide)

I hate it too. And it's so sad that for some it doesn't even stop when they grow up.

That was depressing to read about, poor girl. If what she claims is true, I hope she gets every bit of her settlement.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Neobelmont on May 24, 2012, 06:31:23 PM
http://kotaku.com/5911353/japanese-game-developer-apparently-harassed-so-much-she-attempted-suicide (http://kotaku.com/5911353/japanese-game-developer-apparently-harassed-so-much-she-attempted-suicide)

I hate it too. And it's so sad that for some it doesn't even stop when they grow up.

Read it now it is offical well more capcom is the devil of video games. That not right it's a team effort if anything the people that did that should get fired. And what is it about HR not doing anything what the hell and who says this to someone who was working hard: "Even if the database is a success, you are worthless to the team." WTF really what the hell.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: VladCT on May 24, 2012, 06:43:13 PM
Wow, that was jackassery at its worst. Did the story garner any public reaction from Japan?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Neobelmont on May 24, 2012, 06:47:54 PM
http://kotaku.com/5911353/japanese-game-developer-apparently-harassed-so-much-she-attempted-suicide (http://kotaku.com/5911353/japanese-game-developer-apparently-harassed-so-much-she-attempted-suicide)

I hate it too. And it's so sad that for some it doesn't even stop when they grow up.



hey shelverton I was just watching Alphaomegasin while reading this I sent him a message I wonder if he would do a rant on this seeing as he hates capcom currently.
Title: Re: Castlevania 3DS confirmed- Castlevania: Mirror of Faith(fate?)
Post by: Vampire Killer on May 24, 2012, 07:08:44 PM
I didn't see much of Super Castlevania IV in Lords of Shadow besides the whip swinging and gloomy/dreary environments. He boasted that IV was his bible for LoS's development.

I saw tons of SCvIV in LoS. But perhaps I just have a bigger imagination (that's not meant as an insult)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: cecil-kain on May 24, 2012, 07:22:52 PM
http://kotaku.com/5911353/japanese-game-developer-apparently-harassed-so-much-she-attempted-suicide (http://kotaku.com/5911353/japanese-game-developer-apparently-harassed-so-much-she-attempted-suicide)

I hate it too. And it's so sad that for some it doesn't even stop when they grow up.

I read that story --so sad...  But just a few thoughts to fill in the blanks...

The Japanese job market has been very tight for a very long time --competition is fierce.  If you live in Japan, doing your best work to keep your job is *very* serious business.  When people are a dime a dozen, they become disposable.  Japanese owners, suits, and managers have had the luxury to exploit their employees for maximum productivity and profits for nearly a generation --and that's a tragic thing...  Creating a positive work environment with good pay and benefits is a much higher priority in robust economies, where businessmen are so desperate for help they'd hire deadbeats off the street just to show up and wash a few dishes...

Thank God this woman has a right to sue --hopefully some of her fellow workers will have the courage to support and verify her claims in court.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 24, 2012, 08:50:59 PM
So tomorrow, supposedly screenshots are going to go up for this game. At least that's what rumors have said.

Crossing those fingers.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 24, 2012, 09:13:23 PM
Crossing those fingers.
I think I'll break my fingers doing that.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Omegasigma on May 24, 2012, 10:23:15 PM
Well i never did get to finishing my fan game, as the director, I didnt bother listening to much of the fans, now a days though, the companies wont take the risks they did back in NES time, Sure IGA has done well, my only true gripe with LoS was lack of familiar music, to set the tone, the music box wasnt enough to satisfy me, im curious though to see where they'll take this, and hopefully some nods to the original series but im holding my breath till I see what goes on with these two games, when your at the helm of a major franchise like castlevania, you can either win fans, or break them, so lets hope they get this one right, well the whole battle with lucifer in the first LoS made more sense kinda then just how LoI was but both games have their merits, so im curious if IGA is still doing he games along side MS or has MS taken the reigns, or Kojima for that (tho tbh I hate MGS)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Vampire Killer on May 25, 2012, 12:42:12 AM
If this is all true, and the 3DS Cv is a good game, I'm gonna be forced to get a 3DS :P
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Omegasigma on May 25, 2012, 12:44:04 AM
I know we've all gotten used to IGAvania, I know I have, but Im also looking to see what the new series brings us
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Nagumo on May 25, 2012, 02:05:15 AM
I was the one who asked IGA. I suppose we have to rule out that angle. Unless he is only going to the pre-E3 show to do an announcement? Like shelverton said, I'm still not entirely sure if it's indeed MercurySteam who is developing. I'm hoping for a pleasant suprise.

Does anybody where the pre-E3 show is being held, btw? Also in L.A?
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Post by: Chernabogue on May 25, 2012, 04:21:38 AM
Those artworks are... BADASS. Can't wait!!
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Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 25, 2012, 04:28:43 AM
Those artworks are... BADASS. Can't wait!!


What artworks? Maybe you posted to the wrong thread?
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Post by: Chernabogue on May 25, 2012, 04:42:09 AM

What artworks? Maybe you posted to the wrong thread?
The ones from The Dragon Returns. I'm a bit late.
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Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 25, 2012, 05:31:05 AM
The ones from The Dragon Returns. I'm a bit late.

Then you should post it on it's thread here:http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php/topic,4965.0.html (http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php/topic,4965.0.html)
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Post by: Chernabogue on May 25, 2012, 07:06:09 AM
Then you should post it on it's thread here:http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php/topic,4965.0.html (http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php/topic,4965.0.html)
Only saw it now. SOrry for the inconvenience.

But it means 2 CASTLEVANIA GAMES, SO HELL YEAHZ!!
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Post by: RichterB on May 25, 2012, 11:57:15 AM
My Nintendo Power should be coming in the mail any day now. I wonder if it'll have a story on this game?

Anyway, I'm hoping it doesn't follow IGA's games and tries a new mixture--just so long as said mixture is true to Castlevania.
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Post by: Kamirine on May 25, 2012, 01:02:25 PM
My Nintendo Power should be coming in the mail any day now. I wonder if it'll have a story on this game?

Anyway, I'm hoping it doesn't follow IGA's games and tries a new mixture--just so long as said mixture is true to Castlevania.

I've been waiting on mine as well. I may throw it if I don't see Castlevania on the cover. I know, I know, there's a good chance the rumor was false...but still! XD
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Post by: Kingshango on May 25, 2012, 01:17:53 PM
When does Nintendo Power normally ship out? That teaser was a month ago so it should come like today or tomorrow.
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Post by: OSM on May 25, 2012, 01:42:58 PM
Tomorrow sounds more likely, I haven't heard a peep from anyone who's a NP subscriber yet.
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Post by: CastleDan on May 25, 2012, 02:25:46 PM
Odd this forum was active for a change, now all of a sudden no one is posting. Lol...

chirping...
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Post by: RichterB on May 25, 2012, 05:02:13 PM
Well, the previous issue of Nintendo Power promised "exciting new revelations in the June issue, including a cover story for the generations. Don't miss it or you'll rue your fate, comrade." Included with this was a red splotch that looked like a country outline, maybe Russia (hence the "comrade"?) IDK. It didn't immediately strike me as Castlevania; I thought it might be a new Rush 'n' Attack by Konami maybe (given that there wasn't any CV rumors at the time). Maybe the abstract red splotch is a Castlevania character, though. *shrugs.* On the other hand, the idea of "generations" and "fate" might connect to the 3DS Castlevania rumors. It should come within the next few days. Certainly before June 1st, and likely before May 31st.
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Post by: Kingshango on May 25, 2012, 05:33:03 PM
Well, the previous issue of Nintendo Power promised "exciting new revelations in the June issue, including a cover story for the generations. Don't miss it or you'll rue your fate, comrade." Included with this was a red splotch that looked like a country outline, maybe Russia (hence the "comrade"?) IDK. It didn't immediately strike me as Castlevania; I thought it might be a new Rush 'n' Attack by Konami maybe (given that there wasn't any CV rumors at the time). Maybe the abstract red splotch is a Castlevania character, though. *shrugs.* On the other hand, the idea of "generations" and "fate" might connect to the 3DS Castlevania rumors. It should come within the next few days. Certainly before June 1st, and likely before May 31st.

It would make sense, Metro the last light doesn't strike me as "the cover story for the generations." Now a cover story of Simon and/or Trevor Belmont, on the front cover Nintendo Power? Now that would be something to hype up.
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Post by: Thomas Belmont on May 25, 2012, 06:20:39 PM
Yeah, but it's the "comrade" and the red pic that would indicate that it's something unrelated to Castlevania. I know it's hard not to, but try not to get your hopes up too high.
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Post by: Flame on May 25, 2012, 10:23:22 PM
All they hype has died down due to lack of news and therefore we are all just quietly awaiting something.

I guess you could say this is the crash after the sugar rush.
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Post by: Reinhart77 on May 25, 2012, 10:53:36 PM
um, "yay", new 3DS game.  i do enjoy getting what i hope for. 

i hope they do something good with it.  i'm a little off-put by all the "3 dimensionally placed cardboard cutouts" that i've seen in some games (Super Street Fighter IV, Kid Icarus).  but i'm sure i'd be charmed with it if it was actual Castlevania levels that i got to walk around in.  hope they deliver an experience we haven't had yet.
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Post by: CastleDan on May 25, 2012, 11:32:12 PM
...So...wasn't there supposed to be pictures up friday on a european site?..

Were we tricked by jerks on 4chan?
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Post by: cecil-kain on May 26, 2012, 12:01:51 AM
All they hype has died down due to lack of news and therefore we are all just quietly awaiting something.

I guess you could say this is the crash after the sugar rush.

It's interesting how the smallest taste, gets us all buzzing.  A couple weeks from now we'll be a bunch of slobbering drunks --downright intoxicated-- on all the Castlevania news that comes out of E3.  I hope the hangover is merciful...
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Post by: Kamirine on May 26, 2012, 07:20:28 AM
...So...wasn't there supposed to be pictures up friday on a european site?..

Were we tricked by jerks on 4chan?

We were supposed to get pictures and there was nothing, so yeah. But that's why we were suppose to take everything with a grain o' salt to begin with. Hopefully we'll get something in the next few days, if the Nintendo Power rumor was true.
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Post by: Dengo vlad tepes on May 26, 2012, 12:06:03 PM
5 days left , if there is no news about mof ......


 i will throw my 3ds of the window , true !
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Super Waffle on May 26, 2012, 03:39:00 PM
It's an Order of Ecclesia remake that uses Shanoa's Judgment design.
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Post by: Fofa on May 26, 2012, 03:47:29 PM
It's interesting how the smallest taste, gets us all buzzing.  A couple weeks from now we'll be a bunch of slobbering drunks --downright intoxicated-- on all the Castlevania news that comes out of E3.  I hope the hangover is merciful...

It's the first news for something new in a long while, what else is to be expected?  :)
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Post by: Flame on May 26, 2012, 08:52:22 PM
It's an Order of Ecclesia remake that uses Shanoa's Judgment design.
Shanoa's Judgement design wasn't bad at all.
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Post by: Super Waffle on May 27, 2012, 02:43:06 AM
Shanoa's Judgement design wasn't bad at all.

Yeah, but we're in a minority.

A VERY small minority.
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Post by: shelverton. on May 27, 2012, 09:19:45 AM
I liked Shanoa's hair in her original design. In Judgment she is a nun or something. So the shorter hair probably makes sense. But I think the long hair looked great, at least in her artwork. The sprite in OoE could've been more faithful to the cover artwork though. And I've definitely seen better hair animation than what we ended up with.
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Post by: Gunlord on May 27, 2012, 10:41:47 AM
I like women with long hair, which means I liked Shanoa's ecclesia design more. 8)
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Post by: thernz on May 27, 2012, 11:45:00 AM
That Shanoa sprite was such shit. I don't understand how some of the enemy sprites, like the Lizardmen (CV64 is canon because of their appearance in OoE), were so lovingly crafted, but it looked like there was no priority or quality assurance was done with the character sprites like Shanoa or Albus.

I preferred the OoE look, but I tend to like cleaner designs, and OoE fit that like a glove, while Judgment was basically the antithesis. Shanoa was still one of the better designs in Judgment.
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Post by: Flame on May 27, 2012, 12:08:15 PM
I thought the nun thing was an interesting interpretation.

Wasnt it done like that because they didnt want to do long hair or something?
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Post by: Neobelmont on May 27, 2012, 12:25:27 PM
I like women with long hair, which means I liked Shanoa's ecclesia design more. 8)

 Shanoa not only gives me a back fetish, but also fills out that hot nun fantasy I have  8)
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Post by: thernz on May 27, 2012, 12:32:48 PM
I thought the nun thing was an interesting interpretation.

Wasnt it done like that because they didnt want to do long hair or something?
Probably. They gave Alucard long hair but hid it in his clothing. They didn't even bother trying to animate a cloak in-game either.
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Post by: DragonSlayr81 on May 27, 2012, 12:38:26 PM
Probably. They gave Alucard long hair but hid it in his clothing. They didn't even bother trying to animate a cloak in-game either.
Isn't that the main reason, in a lot of HD games, they've shortened hair considerably in general? Long hair is a bitch to animate, which is sad, because it seems like the more shortened haired characters have become a trend solely based on the fact that nobody wants the task of animating long hair. If characters have long hair(girls, in particular), they always tie it up into ponytails, buns or pig-tails. Pretty sad. I hope, one day, animating hair becomes easier, so character design isn't as limited anymore.
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Post by: Aridale on May 27, 2012, 12:56:18 PM
its not hard now really its just more effort than not doin it at all. Theres PLENTY of hair/cloth simulation that can handle it effectively enough no ones gonna complain. The main issue is havin a physics engine that supports it to have it in real time. However they COULD just use the simulation and record the movement as standard bone based animation for each animation involved. It wont be dynamic in the end result but itll be better than nothin which is what we get 99% of the time
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Post by: thernz on May 27, 2012, 01:11:16 PM
Yeah, but a good example of good cloth animation has already been in Castlevania. Lament of Innocence has a wonderfully animated coattail, that probably didn't use that much physics. Leon on a whole is probably the best animated 3D character in Castlevania in my opinion. There are a lot of subtleties going on with his basic movements, besides the dumb vaulting off of poles.

he's my baby
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Post by: Ring_of_Varda on May 27, 2012, 02:12:40 PM
i take it there has been no new info?  between taking care of my daughter and work i haven't been able to keep up.
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Post by: CastleDan on May 27, 2012, 03:13:53 PM
Yeah, but a good example of good cloth animation has already been in Castlevania. Lament of Innocence has a wonderfully animated coattail, that probably didn't use that much physics. Leon on a whole is probably the best animated 3D character in Castlevania in my opinion. There are a lot of subtleties going on with his basic movements, besides the dumb vaulting off of poles.

he's my baby

I don't talk positively about IGA's 3d castlevania games but I do have a few compliments aimed at Lament of Innocence.

1. The animations were amazing in the game. It goes a long way, good animation gives a game character and castlevania was always big on character.

2. The whip had snap to it. It felt powerful and really felt like a whip. For some reason Curse of Darkness and LOS just didn't capture that same feel. It really felt authentic and unique.


Also, can someone tell me what happened to the animators during curse of darkness? Why did Lament look so good and animate so well yet curse of darkness was so stiff with very weak feeling weapons?...

Something happened to that team as time went on, I swear.
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Post by: thernz on May 27, 2012, 03:17:00 PM
The teams were always being changed. For example, the Harmony of Dissonance team shared very few members with those on Aria's. I'm guessing they lost Lament's animators when Curse's team was assembled.
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Post by: OSM on May 27, 2012, 03:21:48 PM
I don't think there have have been sprites in the series as detailed as Alucard, ever. They really stripped everything down and made it more formulaic in later entries. Alucard's sprites were amazingly fluid, each frame breathed so well, and it showed.

On the subject of Shanoa, it would be cool to see her turn up in this new canon, I really liked her.
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Post by: CastleDan on May 27, 2012, 03:37:57 PM
I don't think there have have been sprites in the series as detailed as Alucard, ever. They really stripped everything down and made it more formulaic in later entries. Alucard's sprites were amazingly fluid, each frame breathed so well, and it showed.

On the subject of Shanoa, it would be cool to see her turn up in this new canon, I really liked her.

OSM, that is exactly why I will never agree with anyone who says any of the other IGA games are better.

Minus the balance issues with difficulty, SOTN was just soooo wonderfully crafted.

I mean stuff like getting hit by a powerful enemy sends you across the screen and Alucard puts his feet up against the wall and flips back to the ground. I mean come on! whoever came up with these animation ideas should be doing more 2d games!

Everything about that game was just amazing, from the shields that  had certain effects ( dark shield with the lightning going on within it)....Shield rod/shield combinations... It blows my mind, Aria of sorrow was great too but it always hit me how less creative and interesting the things you got in the newer games were. How less detailed things were too....

Animation and sprite detail have gone really downhill and I really dislike the new effects in the games. I miss the crazy fire sound effects in sotn.
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Post by: VampirehunterB on May 27, 2012, 04:17:54 PM
yes, SotN:one hit wonder
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Post by: crisis on May 27, 2012, 04:54:55 PM
one word: joseph's cloak
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Post by: CastleDan on May 27, 2012, 05:00:31 PM
one word: joseph's cloak

That just shows you how creative that team was.
Lets include a cloak that can be changed by the player. So cool...

I also loved the boots that actually made Alucard taller.... Gah .....make a game as creative and in-depth as that....please.
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Post by: Flame on May 27, 2012, 06:15:10 PM
Soma's sprites both GBA and DS were pretty well animated IMO. And I would hope so considering his movements are based on Alucard's. His DS sprite in particular is pretty smoothly animated.
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Post by: CastleDan on May 27, 2012, 07:03:33 PM
Soma's sprites both GBA and DS were pretty well animated IMO. And I would hope so considering his movements are based on Alucard's. His DS sprite in particular is pretty smoothly animated.

yeah Soma's sprites were but everyone elses in the DS game were pretty bad generally.
Still not as many little details as alucards sprite.

I'll say this again, Aria of Sorrow was fantastic to me...it's just not on the graphical level of symphony of the night..which is unfortunate.
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Post by: Flame on May 27, 2012, 07:29:39 PM
Yeah. But what can you do. It was still pretty good for a GBA game.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Lords of Shitow on May 27, 2012, 09:57:20 PM
i know i probably shouldnt trust this cause its 4chan, but i was just on there and some guy was saying he went to a before e3 thing where they showed this game off.

what he said:
-main characters are alucard and simon
-alucard IS simon, and you use some mirror shift back and forth between them in the future and past
-game is 2.5d like rond of blood psp remake
-lvls are linear with branch paths and combinations result in different outcomes
-closest game it compares to gameplay wise is rebirth

could obv be BS and probably is but thought i should tell somebody before it 404s. dont know if i trust them with this after LOS and wtf at the simon/alucard part but if its anything like rebirth like they said then thats better. rather 2d and weird than 3d and shit. wish theyd bring back IGA tho
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Post by: Reinhart77 on May 27, 2012, 10:26:31 PM
seems so odd that this guy couldn't just have made it up.  must be true.  and it's got an explanation for what the plot device for the mirror does.  i'm being a little sarcastic, but not completely.

can't say i like Alucard = Simon, but what the hell, why not in this universe?  i'll get used to it.  i have to wonder if Alucard becomes Simon, or if Simon becomes Alucard.  Alucard becomes Simon once he learns how to use a whip?  or vice versa once he becomes a vampire or dhampir?  i'm very pleased to be able to switch between two characters again. 

i'm all for 2.5D on the 3DS.  i think there's a lot more neat things you could do to get 3D effects than if it was sprite based.

i'm liking the comparison to Adventure ReBirth.  if this is a full cartridge game and not a downloadable content, an "enhanced" version of a ReBirth style game is really what i've wanted to see the most.  give us the traditional Belmont gameplay, but also a little something "more", but without watering down the experience too much. 
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Post by: Kingshango on May 27, 2012, 10:36:05 PM
If true then it seems like their pulling the light world/dark world thing they did with Harmony of Dissonance. And bummer that the circle QTE's seem to be back as well as the Uncharted shimmying with the 3D gimmick. (Munchy's not gonna like that.)

On a positive note, I asked him if the sub weapons are back and he said that axe's, knives and cross boomerang appears to make a return the way you expect them to.

Edit: He also went on to say that hearts are not present as well as meat to restore health, the health shrines make a comeback and weapons have their own inventory like they did in LOS.

I shall take these with a grain of salt like all rumors but with the reveal coming very very soon, I wouldn't be surprised if %85 of them were right.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 27, 2012, 11:33:48 PM
-alucard IS simon, and you use some mirror shift back and forth between them in the future and past
The title "Mirror(s?) of Fate" makes so much fucking sense now.
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-closest game it compares to gameplay wise is rebirth
This makes me extremely happy if it's true.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Lords of Shitow on May 27, 2012, 11:42:56 PM
The title "Mirror(s?) of Fate" makes so fucking sense now.

ya i was gonna say. even the naming stuff makes sense now.

gabriel = dracul (dragon)
simon = dracula (son of the dragon)
mirrored, thats "alucard." maybe thats why they went with the simon/alucard/mirror theme for this game.

so maybe in one of those games (MOF or LOS2) he is simon and has to fight dracul the finally faces him has a luke/vader moment and finds out hes his son, lol. and he hates that so he he reverses his name and goes by alucard in protest or something.

Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 27, 2012, 11:51:00 PM
I wonder what gameplay differences "Alucard" will have compared to Simon.

If he drinks blood from enemies like Laura I'll riot. Not really, but it would be a huge downer to see Simon do something like that.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Lords of Shitow on May 27, 2012, 11:54:35 PM
gonna copy/paste the posts from the thread b4 it dies and i go to bed:

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Main character is Alucard but you use the Mirror to alternate between past and present. In the fucked up future you play as Alucard, and in the slightly less fucked up past you play as Simon. There are some obstacles you can't get past in one timeline so you have to go back and forth.

Narrative is that these two are "connected by a thread of fate" or whatever but it's pretty obvious Simon is Alucard. First they show Simon looking into the Mirror with Alucard on the other side of it, but then they flash "Dracula" and then use the same Mirror to show "Alucard" before introducing his character portrait.

Apparently it bridges LOS and the new console game.
...
 More along the lines of the 2.5D Rondo of Blood remake than Symphony of the Night, if you can stomach that. I'm not usually a fan of that art style, but surprisingly it works.
...
Definite Classicvania but with some small LOS-like touches. Not as bad as it sounds, though.
...
It's virtually identical to LOS's art style but has a sort of painterly filter over everything to give it a parchment-y look, if that makes sense? So more cartoony, but definitely not anime.
...
Honestly felt more to me like ReBirth than any other recent Castlevania game.
...
Well, it's kind of non-linear in that there are multiple paths through levels and secrets, which apparently you'll be able to go back and get whenever you want. Taking different combinations of paths through levels apparently results in several different outcomes.
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It looks like LOS on a 2D plane with a weird combination Street Fighter 4-meets-Valkyria Chronicles filter over it, so I think you'll probably be disappointed. Definitely not sprite-based, unfortunately.
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Closest thing to GOW was a QTE on a mini-boss, but only after taking it down in a traditional Castlevania way (whipping the hell out of it and throwing axes).

The other gameplay touch it has similar to LOS is some occasional Uncharted-like climbing on vertical structures, but the 3D effect looks really neat when you climb around a curve on a cliff for example to reveal a new vista. But whenever you get to the top it re-orients itself and goes back to 2D. In the demo they only ever used that to establish new areas and connect levels, and when it happens there's even a map overlay in the style of the early games, showing where you're move on to.
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It wasn't that bad. Only happened once when the boss had low health, and it was the same circle-timing thing from LOS. You ripped off the monster's horns then mask so you could carry on whipping it until it's dead. Felt more like a stage in a Zelda boss fight than GOW.
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Simon and Alucard both use whips, but Simon's is traditional and Alucard's is fiery and shoots fireballs when "charged."
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Yep, all the classics and they behave the exact same way as well.
(in response to question about classic subweapons (axe, knife, cross boomerang, hourglass etc))
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No, unfortunately each sub-weapon has its own inventory and health is only regained at shrines. I miss hearts and those so-called "pork chops."
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Post by: OSM on May 28, 2012, 12:05:57 AM
gonna copy/paste the posts from the thread b4 it dies and i go to bed:
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Simon and Alucard both use whips, but Simon's is traditional and Alucard's is fiery and shoots fireballs when "charged."
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And now it makes sense why he thought it was originally Trevor without any textures on.

These are the most believable rumors yet that tie into everything we've heard so far.
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Post by: Foffy on May 28, 2012, 12:47:37 AM
But Alucard using a whip? Shouldn't that..hurt him?
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Post by: e105beta on May 28, 2012, 12:53:11 AM
I do not like the idea of Alucard using a whip.

Not at all.

And hopefully the wall shimmying will, like he said, be relegated to the occasional area reveal.
I can't imagine too much wall shimmying taking place in a 2D game.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: VladCT on May 28, 2012, 01:04:56 AM
The Simon=Alucard thing is more or less confirmed in this rumor, which sounds no less stupid than Alucard using a whip. I guess we'll just have to wait and see how they execute it if it is indeed true.
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Post by: Neobelmont on May 28, 2012, 01:11:34 AM
ya i was gonna say. even the naming stuff makes sense now.

gabriel = dracul (dragon)
simon = dracula (son of the dragon)
mirrored, thats "alucard." maybe thats why they went with the simon/alucard/mirror theme for this game.

so maybe in one of those games (MOF or LOS2) he is simon and has to fight dracul the finally faces him has a luke/vader moment and finds out hes his son, lol. and he hates that so he he reverses his name and goes by alucard in protest or something.

This is how I kind of feel right now.

The Crying Indian Commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4ozVMxzNAA#)


My least favorite character is my favorite character.
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Post by: GuyStarwind on May 28, 2012, 01:25:24 AM
This is how I kind of feel right now.

The Crying Indian Commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4ozVMxzNAA#)


My least favorite character is my favorite character.

Which one is your favorite and least favorite?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Neobelmont on May 28, 2012, 01:34:21 AM
Which one is your favorite and least favorite?

Simon is my favorite and even if I am playing Sotn Alucard is my least favorite, now excuse me I have to run to a corner and cry now  :'(
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Nagumo on May 28, 2012, 01:54:31 AM
I wish we could see who is who on 4chan. Somebody said the recent rumors are lies but doesn't explain why. Also, the rumor doesn't really say Simon and Alucard are the same character. Would have been funny, though.   
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Neobelmont on May 28, 2012, 01:58:40 AM
I wish we could see who is who on 4chan. Somebody said the recent rumors are lies but doesn't explain why.   

Yeah on a more serious note who really knows what is happening, till then we just have to wait more right?
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Nagumo on May 28, 2012, 02:09:38 AM
This is purely wishful thinking but I would be very glad if this 3DS would be set in the IGA canon after all. Although what we currently know of the rumored plot would seemingly make that impossible, it could still fit.  Perhaps the game takes place in two different time periods: sometime after Simon's Quest and sometime after Symphony of the Night. Not sure how Simon and Alucard would be connencted by fate but it could still work I guess.

It's just nonsense but I would have been interesting.  :-X     
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: DragonSlayr81 on May 28, 2012, 02:16:40 AM
This is purely wishful thinking but I would be very glad if this 3DS would be set in the IGA canon after all. Although what we currently know of the rumored plot would seemingly make that impossible, it could still fit.  Perhaps the game takes place in two different time periods: sometime after Simon's Quest and sometime after Symphony of the Night. Not sure how Simon and Alucard would be connencted by fate but it could still work I guess.

It's just nonsense but I would have been interesting.  :-X     
LOL, hearing the recent rumors, I'd love it to take place in the classic canon, where Simon and Alucard are, and will always be, SEPARATE characters!
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: C Belmont on May 28, 2012, 02:37:15 AM
From an article "Castlevania Lords of Shadow 2: What we want to see" which cox retweeted the link for
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perhaps Mercury Steam could come up with some conceit that allows them two dip in and out of the series' classic identity and its rebooted modern one. The ending mentions the acolytes of Satan preparing for his return so they're bound to get up to some mischief; some reality altering or dimension melding could be just the ticket.
I wonder if there is a reason why he decided to tweet the link for this particular article, I suppose he could just be helping the speculation & rumours to spread.

Also "we'll fight anyone who says SoTN isn't the best of the bunch"
Time to bring out my chain whip I think >:( ;D
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Sumac on May 28, 2012, 04:23:54 AM
So, according to those rumors Simon is Alucard?! Hm...My most favorite character (Simon) is actually becomes my not so favorite character.

Eh. I could stomach that.
Different timeline = different rules. More than that, I am totally OK, with such changes. It shakes things up and makes new timeline exciting and fresh to observe. I would be disappointed, if they approached Alucard the same way he was in Old Canon.

Sadly, some people will cry that "Simon = Alucard - doesn't make sense", however they should remember that it doesn't make sense in the Old Canon, in LOS story it is justified and (if pulled right) could become an interesting twist.
I believe it will test the zealousness and openmindedness of the fanbase even more so, than LOS itself. Given that all those rumors are true.
I am understand that not everybody will like those ideas, and none obligated to like it, really, but I hope people will think before declaring "sacrilige", and other stuff like that, since in reality it is not "sacrilige" against the old story (since nobody touches old story), but a mere interesting (for some) experiment
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Chernabogue on May 28, 2012, 04:31:01 AM
I love this new rumor.

Like Sumac, I like how things are changing.

New/different timeline = new/different rules.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: crisis on May 28, 2012, 05:26:37 AM
This new canon's "rules" is fucking retarded. YEH LETS FUSE COMPLETELY OPPOSITE CHARACTERS TOGETHER FOR NO REAL REASON. Paul W. S. Anderson should be jealous.


Gimme a break, sounds like some 10 year old fanfiction bullshit :rollseyes: Hopefully the gameplay will be good, which what really matters. But lets not forget to add the obligatory QTE to rip the boss' head off.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Sumac on May 28, 2012, 05:38:27 AM
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This new canon's "rules" is fucking retarded. YEH LETS FUSE COMPLETELY OPPOSITE CHARACTERS TOGETHER FOR NO REAL REASON. Paul W. S. Anderson should be jealous. Gimme a break, sounds like some 10 year old fanfiction bullshit
Changes in the new timeline like this shouldn't be justified. New writers do what they want (it is their full right and happily they not obliged to please some fans), and in the end the final result depends purely on the execution of the plot.

If you can't accept such things it more like that you can't make yourself think outside of box. It is understandanble, but there is no need to make statements like that.

Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Foffy on May 28, 2012, 05:44:00 AM
sounds like some 10 year old fanfiction bullshit

Welcome to the plot twists at the end of Lords I. You thought they'd stop? :3c
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: crisis on May 28, 2012, 05:48:46 AM
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If you can't accept such things it more like that you can't make yourself think outside of box. It is understandanble, but there is no need to make statements like that.

^whatever  :rollseyes:


God forgive me for wanting some lingering respect for continuity & certain plot elements. Michael Bay making Ninja Turtles be aliens from another planet? Sure, why not.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on May 28, 2012, 06:48:26 AM
You're overreacting.

At the very worst, it will be some mediocre "What a tweest" thing.  Right now we're all going on absolute hearsay and are already judging and have preconceived notions about the game.
At the very best, it could be awesome.  Why not focus on that possibility, instead of shooting it down right away?  I don't think it's fair.
It's fair to be cautiously optimistic, and it's also fair to be stoked, and it's also fair to be concerned, but shooting the damn thing down as soon as you hear something you might not like is what internet children do.  Haven't we grown up yet?  This happens every time any game comes out.

This is the reason developers don't release any news about products until they're already out: because people cry and bitchrage.  I bet if we had a direct line to the developers people would be lining up demanding their needs to be met and scrapping whatever is they're working on.   We're way too privileged.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on May 28, 2012, 07:13:00 AM
You're overreacting.

At the very worst, it will be some mediocre "What a tweest" thing.  Right now we're all going on absolute hearsay and are already judging and have preconceived notions about the game.
At the very best, it could be awesome.  Why not focus on that possibility, instead of shooting it down right away?  I don't think it's fair.
It's fair to be cautiously optimistic, and it's also fair to be stoked, and it's also fair to be concerned, but shooting the damn thing down as soon as you hear something you might not like is what internet children do.  Haven't we grown up yet?  This happens every time any game comes out.

This is the reason developers don't release any news about products until they're already out: because people cry and bitchrage.  I bet if we had a direct line to the developers people would be lining up demanding their needs to be met and scrapping whatever is they're working on.   We're way too privileged.

The thing is, some ideas are just "bad ideas" period, and this IMO is a bad idea.

Making 2 completely different characters the same just for whole "our universe is different!" type of message is stupid if you ask me.

They did the same thing with making a belmont turn into Dracula and now this?

Do they honestly have to go to such leaps and bounds to completely alienate their new "castlevania universe" from the old one?

I see it as being no different than,

Making Batman Jokers long lost brother
or
Making Superman the Bastard son of Lex Luther

Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Reinhart77 on May 28, 2012, 07:18:34 AM
i wonder if Alucard = Simon is a major plot twist in the game that just got seriously spoiled?  i guess i'll assume that it's just some guy leaping to a conclusion and play the game as if they were two different characters (which will be a little hard now if they both use whips).  Alucard using a whip isn't "that" outrageous to me, but it kind of ruins half the fun of switching between two playable characters if they both use whips.  oh well, at least Alucard's got the fire element going for him.  seems that the whole point of switching between the two is to change the environment, not so much the abilities of the playable character.  hope to see some of his morphs though. 

when Lords of Shadow came out, i tried avoiding all Lords of Shadows discussions before I finished the game to avoid spoilers.  of course, since i still visited general Castlevania sites, i hear some stuff about it.  i heard some people posting about Zobek = Death and Gabriel = Dracula, but dismissed them as some fans wild theories.  which they weren't, sigh...  but at least the game "confirmed" them for me, rather than me already "knowing" it.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Chernabogue on May 28, 2012, 07:36:16 AM
Can't people live with 2 different timelines?

I mean, Alucard, Dracula, Simon, Death, Cornell, Carmilla and other characters are NEW characters in this new timeline, they're not related to the previous timeline's characters. They only share their names and nothing else. People that hate LoS (or its universe) should be happy that they did not make the LoS events canon and set them in a different universe. The old timeline is preserved and I'm really happy it is. And I'm really happy to see what the new writers are going to present to us.

Also, I can't understand the bitching on the game while it has not been announced yet. We only have rumors from (mostly) anonymous people and nothing official. Keep calm a few days and then you'll be able to bitch everything you want.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Maedhros on May 28, 2012, 07:46:19 AM
They are bitching about how retard THE RUMORS sounds. Nothing wrong with that, considering it's a forum.

Personally, I'll wait to see how it'll be. Castlevania to me is more about the gameplay anyway, so even a POS history wouldn't make me put the game down if the gameplay was very good.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: crisis on May 28, 2012, 07:49:06 AM
Why can't they just create new characters instead of bastardizing old ones? It just irks the hell out of me, and I felt like expressing how I feel about it. Which is why I also said the gameplay better be good, since that's the only thing left to feel optimistic about at this point.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Kingshango on May 28, 2012, 07:51:54 AM
Actually, the Simon Belmont= Alucard thing doesn't bother me as much as it should. After what happed in LOS, I've suspended my disbelief and now I feel like anything is possible in this timeline no matter how nonsensical it is.

At this point, I don't care what they do story wise, they can make all the Dhampires Belmonts they want as long as the gameplay is up to the standards of a 2D Castlevania.


Also you got to remember one more thing, these story plotlines are still rumors until proven otherwise. If they are in fact true, then be free to grab your pitchforks torches.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on May 28, 2012, 08:11:39 AM

Also, I can't understand the bitching on the game while it has not been announced yet. We only have rumors from (mostly) anonymous people and nothing official. Keep calm a few days and then you'll be able to bitch everything you want.

Lol, I just love how if you voice your dislike for something than your opinion is belittled to mere "bitching" LOL.

And hey, THIS IS A FORUM dude, which means that these types of discussions happen whether its rumor or confirmed.

And your just as likely to get a negative response, or to use your term "bitching" even from a rumor since its all we have to go on at the moment.

And regarding the whole "this is a new universe" argument that has been used to death already, well I know this is a new universe and all, but like Crisis said, why not make their OWN characters?

Or if they HAVE to use the old characters then the least they could do is not drastically revamp them beyond recognition. I understand they want to distinguish the 2 universe's heroes, but why not do something like give simon a new look,fighting style,or background?

Why do they have to go to such drastic lengths?

Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Sumac on May 28, 2012, 08:17:25 AM
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It's fair to be cautiously optimistic, and it's also fair to be stoked, and it's also fair to be concerned, but shooting the damn thing down as soon as you hear something you might not like is what internet children do.  Haven't we grown up yet?  This happens every time any game comes out.
That is what precisely surprises me about Castlevania fanbase. There are many mature people around here, who should (at least in theory) understand that the world is not rolling around their desires and that sometimes there are possibilities beyond what you usually imagine. But some of them acting...well just as you have described.

When I met CV fanbase for the first time, I have hoped that there will be people who could support different outlooks on the series, without stepping on each toes and making histerics as soon as something goes not as they wanted. That thinking out of the box and postively looking at even the strangest and seemingly impossible possibilities would be encouraged. Now I see that I was mistaking and that the reality is directly opposite of how most of the fandoms (not only CV) operates.

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God forgive me for wanting some lingering respect for continuity & certain plot elements.
Then what is the meaning of the new timeline?
Repeat the same as in old one, just with different characters?
However, looks like CV fanbase will not tolerate this and developers must return most significant Belmonts and Alucard amongst the playable characters, making new timeline bascially remake of the original one. Then significance that is the new timeline will be completely diminished. No thanks.
For the old stories I have old timeline and even there is a bunch of remakes.
For the new timeline I want new stories, with maybe little nods to the old continuity. I appreciate changes.

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Why can't they just create new characters instead of bastardizing old ones?
Because fanboys will cry that this is not Castlevania without Simon Belmont and Alucard.
In all seriousness as long as no-one touches old canon your favorite characters are safe.

This is different universe = different rules, different interpreations and origins. Besides after Simon turning into BDSiMon and Obata!Simon I don't think turning him into...supernatural creature would be a someting special.

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The thing is, some ideas are just "bad ideas" period, and this IMO is a bad idea.
Making 2 completely different characters the same just for whole "our universe is different!" type of message is stupid if you ask me.
There is no bad ideas, but bad execution of said ideas. Mostly.
And, yes, making new universe to stand out on its own by introducing changes is exactly right thing to do.

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Or if they HAVE to use the old characters at least they could do not now drastically revamp them beyond recognition. I understand they want to distinguish the 2 universe's heroes, but why not do something like give simon a new look,fighting style,or background?
We don't even know how they look like (if all rumors are true).
And if you give character new look, origin and fighting style it will be a new character just with the old name, much like many bosses in LOS were. People was pissed of about that as far as I remeber.
However, given fandom disposition it looks like people will be pissed of anyway, no matter what developers did.

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Lol, I just love how if you voice your dislike for something than your opinion is belittled to mere "bitching" LOL. And hey, THIS IS A FORUM dude, which means that these types of discussions happen whether its rumor or confirmed.
Because it is exactly how this complaints often comes of?
OK, I'll write your definition of the forum as "a place where people complain infinitely in annoying manner, sometimes without the reason".
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on May 28, 2012, 08:24:06 AM

Because it is exactly how this complaints often comes of?
OK, I'll write your definition of the forum as "a place where people complain infinitely in annoying manner, sometimes without the reason".

Really did not care to reply to the rest of your post since it would probably go completely over your head, but felt the need to reply to this one.

So anything that is "negative" is automatically "bitching" to you is that right?

Even if someone expresses their dislike in a calm manner it will always come back to "your only bitching" or "you hate change" type of argument that has been beaten to death for far to long.

So would it be right if a called you guys "ass kissers" for constantly supporting everything Cox and his team put out?

Would it be alright for me to belittle your opinion to mere "asskissery" simply because I view it that way?

I'm just trying to get your logic down here.

So if I reversed some of the posts here and instead posted,

"why are so many of you guys kissing ass already? This is only a rumor at the moment, I don't understand why there is so much ass kissing going on for this game when we only have rumors. Chill out and wait a couple of days and than you can kiss all the ass you want.

Would that be appropriate?

I see it as no different than telling people they are "bitching".
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Reinhart77 on May 28, 2012, 08:53:59 AM
can't wait to see the art style of this game.  sounds like it's might take a little getting used to, but after years of good ole sprite recycling, it'll great to see a side scrolling Castlevania game have a new look to it.  things like QTEs and item inventory seem like an annoying assault on traditional CV gameplay, but i can appreciate them as quaint reminders that this is set in the LoS universe.  i wonder what the whipping action will be like.  will it be the standard "toss the whip straight forward", or will it be more like playing LoS except from a side view perspective?

EDIT:  ugh, no, i think i will absolutely hate separate item inventories.  in symphony of the night, i hated Alucard's list of one-use-only items and was very happy to see that in later games the same items consumed hearts or MP.  i guess if the number of sub-weapons is small and the frequency of obtaining them is high, it might be tolerable.  i simply tend to never use rare one-use items, since i never know when the right time to use them is and always feel like i'm wasting them whenever i do use them.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 28, 2012, 09:00:53 AM
So, according to rumors, no Trevor  :'(
Evanescence - My Heart Is Broken (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1QGnq9jUU0#ws)
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: angevil on May 28, 2012, 09:06:00 AM
These rumors are retarded. I cannot stand to watch the bastardization of the Castlevania series. From Lords, Castlevania is no more. A new series was born and it is using the famous and recognized name/franchise in order to get attention. I am sad and feel the sorrow by the recent events.

The new games maybe are ok, I am not here to judge the games themselves, but to say what I think of the abuse of names, story lines and characters. I know what I would do to people who came up with this.......
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Nagumo on May 28, 2012, 09:09:55 AM
So, according to rumors, no Trevor  :'(

It would only have been Trevor in name only so cheer up.  :P   
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ahasverus on May 28, 2012, 09:14:07 AM
It was only going to be Trevor in name only so cheer up.  :P   
I'd take ANYTHING :'( :'(
Hahahah.

The thing is, I already made up my mind in that this new series is far different, Simon+Alucard won't be the last of crazy changes MS will have for sure (Not that I approve it, in fact, I dislike it, still I wouldn't call the work of other people "completely retarded" and a "bastardizaton" of those fine crafted litterary marvels that were the old Castlevania characters). Now I just hope MS pull off the characters and settings in interesting ways.

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I know what I would do to people who came up with this.......
Jesus...
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Nagumo on May 28, 2012, 09:16:00 AM
So that Nintendo Power cover rumor is now debunked? At least the part where it says Trevor is going to be on one.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Kingshango on May 28, 2012, 09:27:18 AM
That Nintendo Power teaser was probably related to Pokemon or something. :P

Why is Thursday so close, yet so far away?
I know what I would do to people who came up with this.......

Dude...
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Ring_of_Varda on May 28, 2012, 09:36:36 AM
personally, and i may be alone in this. but if these rumors pan out i am all for it. the concepts of a 2d game but more styled like lords sounds awesome. sign me up for atleast 2 copies lol.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on May 28, 2012, 09:37:11 AM
The difference between a concern about a game, or one's disagreement of a proposed idea, and bitching/whining, is in the manner of the post being written.
Here's an easy example:


"I am not completely on board with this idea of Simon and Alucard being the same person.  I will have to wait until further developments but as it stands, I am not fond of the idea."
Versus
"Simon and Alucard are the same person?  It's the most laughably stupid idea ever and the franchise is ruined!  RUINED, I SAY!"

The difference is that one of these makes you sounds like a rational human being with genuine concerns and the other makes you sound like an pre-school kid who is pissed that the toy he or she wants doesn't come in his or her favorite color.  One is what I would ideally love the forum populace to behave like, and the other is the kind of forum that it feels like I'm babysitting children (hint: the bitching one is the latter one)

I guess it's all about how you guys write your opinions.  Are you guys competing to see who's posts have more impact or something?  Calm down, speculate and voice your opinions and what you disagree with, but be civil, please.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: DragonSlayr81 on May 28, 2012, 09:41:25 AM
It would be totally hilarious if ALL the rumors about the story was false, and in MoF, we wind up geting a totally NEW character altogether, like "Richard Belmont", and Simon, Trevor and Alucard don't even make appearances.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on May 28, 2012, 09:44:14 AM
The difference between a concern about a game, or one's disagreement of a proposed idea, and bitching/whining, is in the manner of the post being written.
Here's an easy example:


"I am not completely on board with this idea of Simon and Alucard being the same person.  I will have to wait until further developments but as it stands, I am not fond of the idea."
Versus
"Simon and Alucard are the same person?  It's the most laughably stupid idea ever and the franchise is ruined!  RUINED, I SAY!"



So out of curiosity, how would you label my post


"The thing is, some ideas are just "bad ideas" period, and this IMO is a bad idea.

Making 2 completely different characters the same just for whole "our universe is different!" type of message is stupid if you ask me.

They did the same thing with making a belmont turn into Dracula and now this?

Do they honestly have to go to such leaps and bounds to completely alienate their new "castlevania universe" from the old one?

I see it as being no different than,

Making Batman Jokers long lost brother
or
Making Superman the Bastard son of Lex Luther
"

Would it be labeled as "bitching and moaning" or me simply voicing my dislike for what was revealed in a civil manner?

I'm just trying to get his concept down since it seems like SOME (not all) people seems to think that anything that is negative towards Cox or his team's effort is mere "bitching" or you simply "hate change".
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Chernabogue on May 28, 2012, 09:51:00 AM
It would be totally hilarious if ALL the rumors about the story was false, and in MoF, we wind up geting a totally NEW character altogether, like "Richard Belmont", and Simon, Trevor and Alucard don't even make appearances.
That'd be hilarious!  ;D
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: angevil on May 28, 2012, 10:06:41 AM
Dude...

Don`t worry..it wouldn`t hurt them. Because those people do not have a soul!
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: DragonSlayr81 on May 28, 2012, 10:33:23 AM
So out of curiosity, how would you label my post


"The thing is, some ideas are just "bad ideas" period, and this IMO is a bad idea.

Making 2 completely different characters the same just for whole "our universe is different!" type of message is stupid if you ask me.

They did the same thing with making a belmont turn into Dracula and now this?

Do they honestly have to go to such leaps and bounds to completely alienate their new "castlevania universe" from the old one?

I see it as being no different than,

Making Batman Jokers long lost brother
or
Making Superman the Bastard son of Lex Luther
"

Would it be labeled as "bitching and moaning" or me simply voicing my dislike for what was revealed in a civil manner?

I'm just trying to get his concept down since it seems like SOME (not all) people seems to think that anything that is negative towards Cox or his team's effort is mere "bitching" or you simply "hate change".
Wouldn't it be the same for both sides? Both sides bitch and moan about things and each other. You could either be civil or resort to outbursts. IMO, it's the same from both sides:

Civil anti-Simon=Alucard
"I just don't care for this particular idea. It sounds uninspired."

Outburst anti-Simon=Alucard
"This fuckin SUCKS ASS! What a stupid ass idea. Who ever thought up such an idea should be SHOT!!"

Civil pro-Cox retort to above statement
"I respect your opinion, and you're entitled to it, but let's agree to disagree! I, personally, think it's an interesting idea!!"

Outburst pro-Cox retort to above statement
"You are just living in the past, afraid of change and lack the ability to think outside the box!"

LOL! ;D
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Sumac on May 28, 2012, 10:45:17 AM
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Really did not care to reply to the rest of your post since it would probably go completely over your head, but felt the need to reply to this one.
Then why bother? It's not like I am in desperate need ni your personal opinion on the matter, since I am pretty well aware what it is and how you will express it.

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So anything that is "negative" is automatically "bitching" to you is that right?
No.
Only something that sounds like "WAAAA...IT'S A BAD IDEA LIKE FROM CHILDREN FANFICTION, IT SHOULDN'T EXIST AND i AM GONNA STRANGLE ONES WHO CREATED IT" and all of this about RUMORS that wasn't even confirmed and even, if they are true we don't know a bit about how those ideas were executed.

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Would it be alright for me to belittle your opinion to mere "asskissery" simply because I view it that way?
View my opinion as you wish.
However, if you have read my posts before this topic, you know for a fact that I always upholded that particular opinion, so your view is rather unjustified and comes of as counter reaction of a person, who was rightfully blamed in what I have described. 

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These rumors are retarded. I cannot stand to watch the bastardization of the Castlevania series. From Lords, Castlevania is no more
Yeah, yeah, whatever...
As, if teenagers who destory Dracula in cartoonish adventure and japanese Dracula-would-be-reincarnation weren't bastardization of the original idea enough. And happily it is not you who decide when Castlevania ends.

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I know what I would do to people who came up with this.......
So you are readily admit yourself as one of those idiots, like the ones who send death threats to developers over fictional characters? This is sad, if fanbase have that kind of fans.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: Sindra on May 28, 2012, 10:46:28 AM
I'd take ANYTHING :'( :'(
Hahahah.

NO, BAD Ahasverus...BAD! You have STANDARDS, goddammit! Don't take just anything. That's how we got Judgment. Create standards! Especially for Trevor!

Don't make me break out the damn newspaper. I will slap you on the nose 'til you learn.
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: shelverton. on May 28, 2012, 11:01:09 AM
Lighten up guys, it's just a video game.  ;)

If the rumors are true, I hope this game is at least 5 times as long as ReBirth (which someone is already comparing this game to.). I want more alternate paths than Dracula's Curse and Rondo of Blood combined. In fact, I still want this game to be designed a bit like SUPER MARIO WORLD! Hidden exits and secrets pathways that lead you to completely different parts of the castle, preferably on an overworld map. How about that?

Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: OSM on May 28, 2012, 11:08:33 AM
I think the idea of Simon and Alucard being the same character is...sort of neat. It can go either way for me, we won't know until Thursday though. If the game truly is like ReBirth, I hope there are a lot of levels and abundant platforming full of secrets and alternating paths.

I'm still going to miss pork chops in the walls. :(
Title: Re: Castlevania Mirror of Fate ( 3DS per request )
Post by: DragonSlayr81 on May 28, 2012, 11:12:31 AM
Lighten up guys, it's just a video game.  ;)

If the rumors are true, I hope this game is at least 5 times as long as ReBirth (which someone is already comparing this game to.). I want more alternate paths than Dracula's Curse and Rondo of Blood combined. In fact, I still want this game to be designed a bit like SUPER MARIO WORLD! Hidden exits and secrets pathways that lead you to completely different parts of the castle, preferably on an overworld map. How about that?
From the first rumors, it kinda sounded like my proposed idea for a classic/castletroid fusion I listed some time ago. The idea to focus on stage progression, but give the freedom to backtrack and find alternate paths. If it DOES turn out that way, I'll where my smile for a week!! ;)
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Post by: shelverton. on May 28, 2012, 11:15:32 AM

I'm still going to miss pork chops in the walls. :(

It would be fun and easter eggish if you at some point could find a pork chop in a wall, but your character says something like: "Who put that here? There's no way in hell I'm gonna eat that".
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Post by: angevil on May 28, 2012, 11:16:49 AM
So you are readily admit yourself as one of those idiots, like the ones who send death threats to developers over fictional characters? This is sad, if fanbase have that kind of fans.

Death threats? oh, wow..it seems you have some very bad thoughts in your mind and only assume the worst. I am not violent.
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Post by: OSM on May 28, 2012, 11:21:02 AM
It would be fun and easter eggish if you at some point could find a pork chop in a wall, but your character says something like: "Who put that here? There's no way in hell I'm gonna eat that".
Or if they teased it at the end of the reveal trailer.

Silly thing to think about, but I wonder if Simon will still have the walk.
The Belmont Walk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mif5ya4JUy0#)
It can't be like a Classicvania without the walk.
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Post by: Flame on May 28, 2012, 11:24:51 AM
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Making Superman the Bastard son of Lex Luther
Ever read Superman Red Son?
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Post by: crisis on May 28, 2012, 11:32:10 AM
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I think the idea of Simon and Alucard being the same character is...sort of neat.

why

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It can't be like a Classicvania without the walk.

forget everything you knew about classicvania *trollface*
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Post by: GuyStarwind on May 28, 2012, 11:40:06 AM
If they are the same person maybe it will be explained why. Like what if they start out as two different people and some random spell comes and makes them fuse or something? Finally at the end they break the spell and become two people again.
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Post by: e105beta on May 28, 2012, 11:40:09 AM
I think the idea of Simon and Alucard being the same character is...sort of neat. It can go either way for me, we won't know until Thursday though. If the game truly is like ReBirth, I hope there are a lot of levels and abundant platforming full of secrets and alternating paths.

I'm still going to miss pork chops in the walls. :(

I think it's kind of cool as well, but what I don't like is how these rumors are debunking each other.

MoF: You're going to play as Simon and Alucard, both with whips.

LoS2: Simon is Alucard.

So which one is true!?!?
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Post by: OSM on May 28, 2012, 11:42:54 AM
So which one is true!?!?
I'm keeping everything under my hat for now, but I'm not regarding any of them as the truth. These recent rumors just fit in nicely with the first ones I posted on here from the original leaker.

Only 3 days left gentlemen.
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Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on May 28, 2012, 11:50:58 AM

No.
Only something that sounds like "WAAAA...IT'S A BAD IDEA LIKE FROM CHILDREN FANFICTION, IT SHOULDN'T EXIST AND i AM GONNA STRANGLE ONES WHO CREATED IT" and all of this about RUMORS that wasn't even confirmed and even, if they are true we don't know a bit about how those ideas were executed.


Funny thing is, I have seen you act like a jerk towards someone simply because they voice their dislike for Cox and his games.

It did not matter if they said it in a civil manner or in the manner which you described, it just seems that any opinion that is negative towards cox you deem "bitchy" and feel the need to challenge.

Hell, I'm a fan of IGA and I have seen PLENTY of IGA bashing around here (most of which are from you) and yet I don't belittle your opinion or try to challenge it at every turn.

Infact, the only time we ever get into these kinds of discussions is because you come at me.

Like I said, I could go around calling the people who praise Cox and LOS mere "ass kissers" for their constant suck up, but I realize that its their OPINION and me being a jerk to them is not going to change that.

It would seem that not everyone shares that same restraint... :rollseyes:
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Post by: DragonSlayr81 on May 28, 2012, 12:05:40 PM
If they are the same person maybe it will be explained why. Like what if they start out as two different people and some random spell comes and makes them fuse or something? Finally at the end they break the spell and become two people again.
Like in Dragon Ball Z? :) Simon Belmont and Alucard merge to become... SIMUCARD! ;D
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Post by: crisis on May 28, 2012, 12:09:01 PM
Taht's brilliant!! +1 for you DwagonSlayr
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Post by: GuyStarwind on May 28, 2012, 12:21:38 PM
Like in Dragon Ball Z? :) Simon Belmont and Alucard merge to become... SIMUCARD! ;D
Genius. And the voice actors could talk at the same time too.
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Post by: JR on May 28, 2012, 12:43:09 PM