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Title: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: soma555 on August 16, 2011, 09:15:14 AM
(http://xboxoz360.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/leaked-vita-games-oxcgn-3.jpg)

On Vista???

I Hope is not Fake

http://oxcgn.com/2011/08/16/possible-list-of-unannounced-ps-vita-games-for-gamescom-leaked/ (http://oxcgn.com/2011/08/16/possible-list-of-unannounced-ps-vita-games-for-gamescom-leaked/)
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: shelverton. on August 16, 2011, 09:21:42 AM
WHAT

EDIT: *dies*
Maybe it's a collection? But what kind of collection? A COMPLETE collection sounds MASSIVE.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Nagumo on August 16, 2011, 09:25:57 AM
I hope it's a collection of Chronicle-styled remakes. That would be pretty ambitious and very fitting for the anniversary.     
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: uzo on August 16, 2011, 09:28:02 AM
Holy shit I hope this is real.

Realistically, I don't think it would be a complete collection, even if called Complete Chronicles. The N64 and PS2 titles I don't think they'd figure it was worth it to make ports, or more likely emulators, for the vita to play these games.

Then again, if they really wanted to put forth an initiative to develop emulators for future project collections and such, it is possible. I just don't see it as very likely.

I'd expect NES, SNES, Rondo, SotN, Chronciles, and maybe DXC in one bundle. It could be as cheap as DXC + Chronicles being the only Chronicles titles.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on August 16, 2011, 09:38:07 AM
Why the fuck is it for Vita!?!?! GRRRRR...
PSmotherfuckin'THREE or ExBaux or WeeaUuu!
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Gecko on August 16, 2011, 09:42:18 AM
(http://xboxoz360.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/leaked-vita-games-oxcgn-3.jpg)

Ah, sweet!

Quote
On Vita???

WAT
Ugh.. *headdesk* :-\
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: shelverton. on August 16, 2011, 09:45:52 AM
Yeah, I wasn't exactly planning on getting a Vita anytime soon. Or ever. But every generation I end up with every damn console and handheld released anyway because all my favourite games are scattered all over the place. I sometimes wish I could be a fanboy. Imagine only having to worry about ONE company, or even one console! But no, I want EVERYTHING. Being a gamer is hard. :(
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: VladCT on August 16, 2011, 09:48:04 AM
It could be as cheap as DXC + Chronicles being the only Chronicles titles.
Possibly that plus a Chronicles remake of CVIII.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on August 16, 2011, 09:59:24 AM
Great, I will have yet another paperweight to go with my PSP.
Ain't it sad?  I have a modded PSP and I STILL can't bring myself to play it.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Kaori on August 16, 2011, 10:04:49 AM
Hopefully this is legit.

But...oh great. Another handheld to add to my handheld collection. I WAS going to get a 3DS this week and trade in my DSi to go towards it...but I might honestly wait now if I'm going to end up buying a Vita.  :rollseyes:

Why Castlevania? Why do you make me do these things?

But in all seriousness, The Complete Chronicles? That sounds amazing (hopefully).  ;D
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: crisis on August 16, 2011, 10:08:51 AM
I wonder how affinity feels bout this lol


You guys were just waiting for an excuse to buy a vita stop frontin'
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Kingshango on August 16, 2011, 10:09:02 AM
Now my reasons for getting a Vita will be justified. :)
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Mr.Bushido on August 16, 2011, 10:31:19 AM
That's too bad, I'm not buying Vita. Fuck.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on August 16, 2011, 10:55:50 AM
When I first saw this I was like "Yea! freaken awesome" but once I saw that it was for the vita my happiness dropped. :(

I hope this is not the anniversary title they are supposed to be making.

The anniversary game defnitely should be on multiple consoles like the PS3 and Xbox360.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: whitedragon_nall on August 16, 2011, 11:08:08 AM
With the insane amount of hand held gaming I do anymore, this is welcome news. I've been planning on getting a Vita at launch anyway.

That Ys Origin listing also has me interested.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: crisis on August 16, 2011, 11:10:33 AM
Why you guys frontin' on the Vita? Sure the price is expensive but maybe they have some phat ideas for it that aren't possible on the 3DS dot dot dot


lol @ thread title too excited for correct spelling
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Profbeanburrito on August 16, 2011, 11:16:20 AM
I really hope this is true but I hope it's not only for the vita. I want to see a console version too. Originally the rumor was a collection on PSP and Wii so if that was true maybe they switched it to vita and maybe the Wii and other consoles
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: crisis on August 16, 2011, 11:26:54 AM
A complete choronicles should include cv1-3, scviv, bloodlines, the classic gameboy titles, all remastered of course. I DO NOT want to see Symphony on there.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Kingshango on August 16, 2011, 11:32:10 AM
A complete choronicles should include cv1-3, scviv, bloodlines, the classic gameboy titles, all remastered of course. I DO NOT want to see Symphony on there.

I agree with you, Symphony is avalible on 4 other systems now and we've have several Metroidvania's, it's time for the classic style to have it's shine.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: uzo on August 16, 2011, 11:36:19 AM
Touching on the buying a Vita subject;

I originally never had an interest in it. I got a 3DS assuming that the next three portable titles would have been on 3DS, along with Megaman Legends 3. So far no 3DS announcement, a possible Vita announcement, and Megaman Legends 3 got cancelled.

I guess I made the wrong call getting a 3DS instead of waiting for Vita.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: DingusBelmondo on August 16, 2011, 11:46:08 AM
btw... all Vita games are downloaded... sucks for collectors.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: whitedragon_nall on August 16, 2011, 11:50:09 AM
Pretty sure Vita game have retail copies. Just that all games may be downloaded, if you prefer.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Nagumo on August 16, 2011, 11:53:55 AM
I could care less if this would be only for Vita. I'll end up getting the system anyway for one reason or another.   
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: cecil-kain on August 16, 2011, 12:03:25 PM
This is some VERY encouraging news, but is anyone else wondering if Konami's planning to ride us cheap?  I'd rather see one Castlevania remade with some serious love instead of a complete collection of lazy ports.  :-/
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Kingshango on August 16, 2011, 12:15:19 PM
It very well may be a bunch of rom dumps unfortunatly but it beats having nothing at all I guess.

Also
I couldn't care less if this would be only for Vita. I'll end up getting the system anyway for one reason or another. 

Fixed :P
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Nagumo on August 16, 2011, 12:17:02 PM
Lol, if it really would just be a port of a bunch of CV games (that most likely were re-released several times already) then that would be another low point in the series' history.

Not to mention it would be total bullshit if they released that for Vita.   
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Abnormal Freak on August 16, 2011, 12:25:38 PM
Knowing Konami, a coupling of the previous two Chronicles titles seems likely.

And uuuugggghhhh, Vita... If it's nothing too exuberant, a 3DS release would be nice, too. But I guess I was probably gonna get a Vita for the Silent Hill game on it...maybe. I'm less excited about the series with Yamaoka being gone. Either way, if the system's anything like the PSP, it'll sit around and collect dust.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on August 16, 2011, 12:25:56 PM
It might not be just for the Vita, actually... but we'll see.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Deko21 on August 16, 2011, 01:01:51 PM
This is actually very good news but why on the Vita? I just hope it doesn't get released when the Vita comes out, cause i don't want to bust alot of money just to play a new castlevania title.

As for the collection within the game, hopefully its not a bunch of ports. I have a hunch that this might be the NES, genesis and rondo (and maybe GB if we're lucky enough). i kinda doubt they'd throw SCV4 in the mix cause that's just another remake of the first game (unless you want them to go with SCV4 being simon's 3rd outing)
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on August 16, 2011, 01:06:19 PM
I'm actually not to much of a handheld fan so this is horrible news for myself.

I just think that games for the consoles are obviously better IMO.

This type of game deserves to be on a console just like DXC deserved to be on a console.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: JR on August 16, 2011, 01:12:05 PM
Works for me. I'd rather have it on a console, but I'll buy a Vita, too. (Honestly, the Vita appeals to me more than the 3DS, although I'll probably end up with both down the road).

Now I just need to see which games are on this thing (and like what was previously said, if they're just quick rom dumps or something better). I really hope they have some extras, included in the game or package...something that would surprise even us long-term fans would be nice, too.


Hey...I just thought of something...what if it's for Vita and PS3, and it allows...TRANSFARRING?!??  :o *gasp*
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: KaZudra on August 16, 2011, 01:20:02 PM
This is actually more disappointing than Just HoD on PS3, since I'm hating the Vita because ITS DOING THE EXACT SAME THING AS THE PSP.
like the PSP, no one is going to but a handheld with a library consists mostly of re-release and Spin-off titles of the Same Priced PS3.

I pray for the PSP hacking team to hurry up on the Vita, because I wont be in a hurry to but one unless Castlevania is THAT impressive (and Bioshock)
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Deko21 on August 16, 2011, 01:25:13 PM
This is actually more disappointing than Just HoD on PS3
Yes, cause harmony of dissonance is a terrible game even if it gets an HD port on the PS3... wait, that's not the game you're talking about? (HD = Harmony of Despair, HoD = Harmony of Dissonance)

Anyways, although it'd be nice if it was on consoles, portable sounds kinda better since you can play it on the go :P. Though that's just me since i've been with portables since the game boy.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: OSM on August 16, 2011, 01:37:30 PM
Oh hell the fuck no.

Not Vita, anything but Vita, but, If it's just a collection I don't give a shit. I wanted a new game.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: KaZudra on August 16, 2011, 01:42:49 PM
Yes, cause harmony of dissonance is a terrible game even if it gets an HD port on the PS3... wait, that's not the game you're talking about? (HD = Harmony of Despair, HoD = Harmony of Dissonance)

Anyways, although it'd be nice if it was on consoles, portable sounds kinda better since you can play it on the go :P. Though that's just me since i've been with portables since the game boy.

lol caught me, just reading it so much kinda makes HD slip to HoD every once in awhile....

Looking at the list again, Its JUST the Vita, MAYBE the Complete Chronicles can make it on multiplatform. (but I doubt it)

I'm Just against Buying a Near PS3 handheld when the only games are Near PS3.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Deko21 on August 16, 2011, 01:48:03 PM
lol caught me, just reading it so much kinda makes HD slip to HoD every once in awhile....

Looking at the list again, Its JUST the Vita, MAYBE the Complete Chronicles can make it on multiplatform. (but I doubt it)

I'm Just against Buying a Near PS3 handheld when the only games are Near PS3.
Its understandable. Especially with that pricetag. though we'll all be getting it in the future anyways (maybe when the price drops)

Though if it is multi-platform, then that'd probably make things easer for me cause then i wouldn't have to buy a new console that costs a little too much for a portable.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Maedhros on August 16, 2011, 01:53:30 PM
FAAAAAAKE, this shit is so fake it's not even funny.

When these lists even had relevancy anyway?
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: JR on August 16, 2011, 01:54:05 PM
Hmm...I'm thinking this Complete Chronicles isn't real. Take a look at Ubisoft's games on the list: Assassin's Creed, Driver: Renegade, Michael Jackson: The Experience, Rayman Origins, and Splinter Cell. But then the Vita games they actually announced were Assassin's Creed, Lumines, Asphalt, Dungeon Hunter Alliance, Rayman Origins, and the Michael Jackson game.

I know that the leaked list is just games in development and not necessarily announced at Gamescom, but I digress. And with Konami not announcing this game with the rest of their lineup, it seems doubtful to me. Besides, wasn't there some kind of fake leak for E3 this year that hinted at a new Castlevania game, too? (I could be remembering this incorrectly, too though)
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: OSM on August 16, 2011, 02:32:48 PM
Besides, wasn't there some kind of fake leak for E3 this year that hinted at a new Castlevania game, too? (I could be remembering this incorrectly, too though)
You are correct.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: shelverton. on August 16, 2011, 02:43:35 PM

This could very well be fake, but c'mon people! Is it really THAT surprising that a new Castlevania game might come to the Vita? You're acting like you didn't even see it coming. Castlevania has a habit of coming to every console ever. If this game is fake then something else could easily be announced someday anyway. Heck, even the legendary 1999 game could end up being a Vita exclusive for all I know. You need to be prepared for such things.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Sumac on August 16, 2011, 02:57:50 PM
If it's real I think people shouldn't worry prematurely about this game being only on Vita.
Did you see MGS Collection and Rising there? This games are also scheduled to be released on the PS3 as far as I know. And seems Vita will receive a port. So what if this CVCC will be released on the PS3 and Vita will receive it as a port?

About the content of this? Who knows. Obviously it will not be collection of all 26+ games in the series. I think maybe it will cover only all 2D main releases. So in a way it will be like CV soundtrack collection. But with games instead of music.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Neobelmont on August 16, 2011, 03:03:16 PM
 
This could very well be fake, but c'mon people! Is it really THAT surprising that a new Castlevania game might come to the Vita? You're acting like you didn't even see it coming. Castlevania has a habit of coming to every console ever. If this game is fake then something else could easily be announced someday anyway. Heck, even the legendary 1999 game could end up being a Vita exclusive for all I know. You need to be prepared for such things.

Sure but why a compilation of past games that most probably have it just seems like an easy way out like mario all stars for the wii. If it is an all new game great but if this does turn out true than darn.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: shelverton. on August 16, 2011, 03:11:38 PM

Hmmm.. I may be a minority here but I think a compilation of past games is a great idea for the 25th Anniversary. I'm surprised people are so against it? Yes, we've all played the games to death, but I love collections, and Castlevania is well over due. It will come in a box. A BOX! With artwork on it. And it will probably have a booklet. And you can put it on your shelf and look at it. Stuff like that.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Dark Nemesis on August 16, 2011, 03:17:07 PM
True or not, i dislike it that it's going to be for vita.....i'd rather see it on a Blu-ray Disc for the ps3.....like shelverton said, every time they are making a Castlevania game for a game machine, we are forced to buy it just for the Castlevania game..........right now, i am not  into spending money for games or console games...... :(
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Foffy on August 16, 2011, 03:46:59 PM
Man..this list seems spookingly accurate, if only for the fact Falcom said they would have an RPG that wasn't on portables at launch for Vita.

Ys Origin was a PC game.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Munchy on August 16, 2011, 03:48:16 PM
So all the other HD collections are getting Vita ports too?

GODDAMMIT I WANT THIS ON A CONSOLE
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: knightmere on August 16, 2011, 03:48:56 PM
Fuck the vita, I want Castlevania 3DS dammit!
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Foffy on August 16, 2011, 03:55:13 PM
Fuck the vita, I want Castlevania 3DS dammit!

How would you feel knowing that there may be a Zone of the Enders for 3DS instead? :3c
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Neobelmont on August 16, 2011, 04:01:49 PM
Hmmm.. I may be a minority here but I think a compilation of past games is a great idea for the 25th Anniversary. I'm surprised people are so against it? Yes, we've all played the games to death, but I love collections, and Castlevania is well over due. It will come in a box. A BOX! With artwork on it. And it will probably have a booklet. And you can put it on your shelf and look at it. Stuff like that.

To me at least is that I feel that a compilation is a cheap easy way out not bad per say but come on we are worth so much more than that. Just take a look at the Y's games for PSP more specifically Y's Seven premium edition package. It not only came with a book, disk, and a freaking cloth map but it came with a new game heck even the tales of series for their fifteenth anniversary from what I understand are not only doing bugget games for the PSP and PS3 but they also made tales of radiant mythology three and tales of xillia limited edition just look at it http://www.siliconera.com/2011/06/25/see-the-two-figures-from-lalabits-tales-of-xillia-limited-edition/ (http://www.siliconera.com/2011/06/25/see-the-two-figures-from-lalabits-tales-of-xillia-limited-edition/). It just feels wrong for people who have these already and while it may be the just the beginning of what is to come this first piece of information just feels cheap.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Inccubus on August 16, 2011, 04:59:24 PM
Great, I will have yet another paperweight to go with my PSP.
Ain't it sad?  I have a modded PSP and I STILL can't bring myself to play it.

If you ever get tired of it let me know and maybe we can make a deal. ^___^


On Topic: If it's for Vita, then it's probably DXC + CVC, nothing more. No reason to think Konami suddenly stopped being as lazy as they have been.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: knightmere on August 16, 2011, 05:20:55 PM
If Konami REALLY loved us they would make Castlevania 3 into a 3D classic...
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Inccubus on August 16, 2011, 05:34:11 PM
Corporations don't love anything other than money. The individuals that make the games might love us, the fans, but the company couldn't give a rat's ass about anything but our pockets not having holes in them.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Maedhros on August 16, 2011, 06:04:36 PM
Fuck the vita, I want Castlevania 3DS dammit!
Fuck the 3DS, I want Castlevania Vita dammit!
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on August 16, 2011, 06:29:58 PM
Fuck the 3DS, I want Castlevania Vita dammit!

Fuck both handhelds.

I want a console Castlevania game lol. ;D
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: cecil-kain on August 16, 2011, 06:35:47 PM
Fuck both handhelds.

I want a console Castlevania game lol. ;D

THIS

and 2D...
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: KaZudra on August 16, 2011, 06:39:37 PM
Fuck both handhelds.

I want a console Castlevania game lol. ;D

Fuck Consoles.

I want a PC Castlevania.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Renonsgoods on August 16, 2011, 06:49:25 PM
I give it about 5 more years before Konami stops making console games altogether.  An awesome CV anthology release.......on a handheld?  GA-DAM-MIT.  It irks me to no end having to yank out the charger for my DS to play the latest 2DVanias as it is.  I'm not about to shell out another 2-300 bucks for an overpriced Gameboy just to play more Vania.  Feck that.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Odile Kuronuma on August 16, 2011, 07:24:08 PM
Fuck Consoles.

I want a PC Castlevania.
lol I was thinking the same thing. I really don't want to get a new console. I don't play games that much so I don't see the point of getting a new console just to play a couple of games. And I'm a little disappointed by this news(if it's true ). I was expecting a new game. Konami took the easy route again.
I hope this will come on the PS3 because I fucking hate handhelds. I always get neck pains while playing on my DS.Not to mention the graphics are crappy...
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: A-Yty on August 16, 2011, 07:33:11 PM
Fuck Consoles.

I want a PC Castlevania.

Screw you guys. I want my brain wired into the Castlevania Simulation.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: KaZudra on August 16, 2011, 07:34:28 PM
Screw you guys. I want my brain wired into the Castlevania Simulation.

Castlevania the Theme Park.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: crisis on August 16, 2011, 07:40:53 PM
waaahhh i dont wanna buy a new handheld/console waaahhh


There's still no confirmation that this is a real document, is there?
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Flame on August 16, 2011, 07:47:54 PM
Castlevania the Theme Park.
Thread over.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: C Belmont on August 16, 2011, 07:52:15 PM
Dammit! I wanna see castlevania on a Console again in glorious 2D/2.5D not on some tiny little hand held screen
and there is absolutely no way that I am buying a new handheld just to play one castlevania game, I've been there and done that already.
If this is konami's idea of a Anniversary celebration it's starting to suck already.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Harrycombs on August 16, 2011, 07:53:46 PM


I guess I made the wrong call getting a 3DS instead of waiting for Vita.

Man, I feel the same way. I was also looking forward to MGS3 on the 3DS, but now that Konami is making the MGS HD collection... God damn it Konami.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: A-Yty on August 16, 2011, 08:04:55 PM
Castlevania the Theme Park.

Robocop - I'd Buy That For a Dollar (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85cL1HisrNc#)
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Maedhros on August 16, 2011, 08:07:33 PM
To the hell with you guys, I don't even want the game anymore.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: uzo on August 16, 2011, 09:07:01 PM
I don't really understand the opposition to a massive collection game.

It is really fitting for the 25th Anniversary. Commemorating all (or most) of the games of the 25 years of the series history. Especially since I don't believe we've ever really had a 'collection' release other than DXC and maybe a PC Double-Pack release or two.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: KaZudra on August 16, 2011, 09:10:55 PM
I don't really understand the opposition to a massive collection game.

It is really fitting for the 25th Anniversary. Commemorating all (or most) of the games of the 25 years of the series history. Especially since I don't believe we've ever really had a 'collection' release other than DXC and maybe a PC Double-Pack release or two.

I hope this collection won't be a Slap in the face like Mario Fans got, a Snes game on Disk and without the courtesy of having super Mario world
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: uzo on August 16, 2011, 09:12:15 PM
Considering we've never had an actual collection release, by default they can't just re-release something on a disk from the old era.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Kaori on August 16, 2011, 09:13:59 PM
I hope this collection won't be a Slap in the face like Mario Fans got, a Snes game on Disk and without the courtesy of having super Mario world

Just no. If this Complete Chronicles is something like that... :-X

I'm just hoping it's a collection of the classicvanias. I hope it just won't be DXC and Chronicles in one pack. Talk about worse 25th anniversary ever, if this is the 25th anniversary thing.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: KaZudra on August 16, 2011, 09:20:31 PM
Since they had quite a bit of time to put into this project, If its real that is, I've taken into consideration that the 99% of the Vita Library is already on the PS3.
This'll probably be a multiplatform release of a Small Collection of Games (probably 1-3 + more) mostly redone (probably just 1-3).

but if its Just a DXC + CC, that is both lazy, and a waste since a PSP has that already Covered.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Renonsgoods on August 16, 2011, 09:21:48 PM
I don't really understand the opposition to a massive collection game.

It is really fitting for the 25th Anniversary. Commemorating all (or most) of the games of the 25 years of the series history. Especially since I don't believe we've ever really had a 'collection' release other than DXC and maybe a PC Double-Pack release or two.
No ones opposed to the idea of such a collection.  What many of us are opposed to is the release of such a collection for only a freaking portable game system. 
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on August 16, 2011, 09:51:52 PM
No ones opposed to the idea of such a collection.  What many of us are opposed to is the release of such a collection for only a freaking portable game system.

I agree.

I think it would be a great idea.

But not as a exclusive game to only a handheld system.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: X on August 17, 2011, 12:09:49 AM
Definitely need to have this collection on a console as most of the CV games were console oriented to begin with. That and they could fit 'em all easily on one DVD or Blu ray disc with lots of extra features such as history, character profiles, etc.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Nagumo on August 17, 2011, 12:15:06 AM
I think I rather want The Complete Chronicles to be some kind off database (just like with Metal Gear) rather then a boring collection. 
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: KaZudra on August 17, 2011, 12:18:11 AM
Sonic Mega Collection Plus a la Castlevania Chronicles
Get a Console Port to DXC, adding Cronicles 1, with a New Remaster of Castlevania 3 or 4, Packed in with the rest of the non PS2 games, add dev interview vids, artwork, timeline, and dev notes on the canceled games and such, just like sonic (may not be remastered, but Sonic 1+2 were updated fixing many glitches)

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I think I rather want The Complete Chronicles to be some kind off database (just like with Metal Gear) rather then a boring collection.
I think that'll send the fans in uproar to have an anniversary project turned into a boring app that you visit like once
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: JR on August 17, 2011, 03:22:03 AM
I'd like to have both. I've always thought a database would be cool, especially if it gets updated with each new release (the Metal Gear Database didn't do this after Peace Walker came out). It would be a nice little bonus to an anniversary package.

If this collection thing really does happen to be true, I honestly wonder if it ties in with the Vita through this transfarring crap. Konami will probably push this technology quite a bit (for maybe a year or two at least), so maybe a collection could be made with the PS3 in mind, but also can be played interchangeably with the Vita, and was thus included on the list? This could explain why MGS Rising is on there, too. I don't know, a longshot probably. But to me, it seems silly for Konami to release a compilation of old games that probably won't utilize the technology the Vita has. The thought of this being a Vita-only title seems almost absurd.

Although only a pipe dream, I'd love to see a beta Bloodlines and Resurrection make it into the collection. It would make my black, fanboy heart just melt. (Look at me, I'm getting hyped about a collection that probably doesn't exist.  :-\ )
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: shelverton. on August 17, 2011, 03:29:51 AM
Why do people think this could be DXC + CV Chronicles in a bundle? I have never heard anything more random. I mean, the playstation game Castlevania Chronicles from 2001? RLY? Why would Konami pick that game together with DXC? Because it was called Chronicles? Also, what about these games says "complete" to you? There's no logic here whatsoever. Or maybe I'm stupid. Well well, whaevah..
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: JR on August 17, 2011, 03:35:15 AM
I think it's only that everyone is being cynical due to Konami's laziness as of late. I think combining the two Chronicles sounds preposterous, too, but I'm not sure how surprised I'd be to see something so baffling or lazy actually happen.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Nagumo on August 17, 2011, 04:21:58 AM
I think that'll send the fans in uproar to have an anniversary project turned into a boring app that you visit like once

I'm not saying they should do that for the anniversary, just that I would take that any day over a collection.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Ruffy005 on August 17, 2011, 04:54:55 AM
I sure hope this is not a Vita release only....seriously as much as i am a Castlevania fan through and through, i do not want to purchase another of sony's portable consoles.......

I hope it is a digital or compilation disc, that will be released on both ps3 and xbox360, with a ton of 25th anniversary goodies.

Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Munchy on August 17, 2011, 05:01:14 AM
This really better be multiplatform. I'm not buying a Vita just for one game.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Inccubus on August 17, 2011, 05:14:50 AM
I think it's only that everyone is being cynical due to Konami's laziness as of late. I think combining the two Chronicles sounds preposterous, too, but I'm not sure how surprised I'd be to see something so baffling or lazy actually happen.

Damn straight, I'm being cynical. Konami's not gonna just abruptly change their ways outta the blue. Tell me about a collection in conjunction with a new CEO and then I'll be willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Colin B. on August 17, 2011, 06:52:02 AM
Konami packaging the two chronicles games makes a tone of sense. Anyone else noticed how they are packaging a bunch of older games and slapping "HD" in there?

Part of me hopes it's just the two Chronicles games so I don't have to buy a Vita...
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Nagumo on August 17, 2011, 06:59:13 AM
I can't believe some people want this title to be something boring just so they don't have to spend money on a Vita.  :-X   
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: crisis on August 17, 2011, 07:16:35 AM
Us fans don't know what we want nagumo

Some people just want a new game beamed directly into their brain it seems, but with a disc
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: narkolepsi on August 17, 2011, 09:30:35 AM
so I peek my head in during vacation and see this :) I had a feeling I would be missing something big.

Yeah, if this is only for Vita I'll flip. I'd at least like to see a non-Sony console/handheld release because I have a 360, a 3DS, and no PS3. I was planning on getting a Vita eventually though, so I guess it'll all work out.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: JR on August 17, 2011, 10:26:03 AM
Damn straight, I'm being cynical.

As are others right now. Never said anything was wrong with it.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Maedhros on August 17, 2011, 12:32:19 PM
I can't believe some people want this title to be something boring just so they don't have to spend money on a Vita.  :-X

People are crazyhypocrite like that.

EDIT: Wow, hypocrital... is that even a word?
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Inccubus on August 17, 2011, 01:25:22 PM
As are others right now. Never said anything was wrong with it.

Yeah, there's a lot of tension in the industry lately. What with these 3rd party companies acting all ape-shit crazy, and the big-ass earthquake last year didn't help anyone.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: crisis on August 17, 2011, 02:08:35 PM
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Wow, hypocrital... is that even a word?

Hypocritical, yes  ;)
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on August 17, 2011, 02:13:21 PM
Someone on Facebook told me that that list may not be just "Vita" but rather just a "Sony" list altogether, so it could be for any of Sony's systems.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: KaZudra on August 17, 2011, 02:21:13 PM
Someone on Facebook told me that that list may not be just "Vita" but rather just a "Sony" list altogether, so it could be for any of Sony's systems.

this could be fact since we've heard 0% of a MGS collection on Vita, and there is ALOT of MGS Talk as of late.

EDIT: Silent Hill collection was confirmed for Xbox360 and PS3
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Dark Nemesis on August 17, 2011, 03:53:39 PM
Someone on Facebook told me that that list may not be just "Vita" but rather just a "Sony" list altogether, so it could be for any of Sony's systems.

Make it be for the ps3.....please!!!! :rollseyes:
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on August 17, 2011, 04:04:34 PM
PS3 would be pretty damn awesome.  ;)
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: shelverton. on August 17, 2011, 04:09:43 PM
Yeah, ps3 all the way! And Xbox360 too just for lulz. After that they can put it on Vita if they want to, nobody would mind. Not that I even know exactly what this game is. Maybe it's not even a game. Maybe it doesn't even exist!  :o

But just put it on ps3 anyway.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Kale on August 17, 2011, 05:42:26 PM
screw em both, wheres my pc release!?
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Profbeanburrito on August 17, 2011, 05:58:05 PM
screw em both, wheres my pc release!?

I wouldn't hold my breath. Aside from CV1 I don't recall ever seeing a pc Castlevania.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: X on August 17, 2011, 06:04:20 PM
Castlevania for the X68000 is a PC game. Surely you've heard of it.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Kale on August 17, 2011, 06:04:26 PM
Yea... I know. But I would love if they made an awesome PC CV.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Profbeanburrito on August 17, 2011, 06:09:07 PM
Castlevania for the X68000 is a PC game. Surely you've heard of it.

ok 2, but I highly doubt we'll see another.  And sure, it's a PC game, but for an obscure pc only released in japan.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: KaZudra on August 17, 2011, 06:33:09 PM
Since people had a Frame rate Issue with LoS, LOS and HD FOR PC! it can't be more perfect!
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Ahasverus on August 17, 2011, 09:19:05 PM
When is Sony's conference?
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Maedhros on August 17, 2011, 09:48:04 PM
When? It was yesterday.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Sindra on August 17, 2011, 10:09:08 PM
Big goddamn surprise Sony tried to FORCE people from specific franchises to buy their crappy handhelds because the games are exclusive. They did it with Dracula X Chronicles, God of War: Chains of Olympus, and MGS: Peacewalker.


Joke's on them. I haven't bought a 3DS for Resident Evil Mercenaries 3D for Revelations, so Sony can suck on it too.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Pemburu Vampir on August 18, 2011, 12:31:53 AM
screw em both, wheres my pc release!?

I second this.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: X on August 18, 2011, 12:59:48 AM
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MGS: Peacemaker.

lol! That's Peacewalker actually. And it's coming out on the MGS collection for the PS3 so it won't be just on the PSP anymore.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: JR on August 18, 2011, 02:02:22 AM
I mentioned the possibility a few pages ago. Jeez, you guys!  :'(

Seriously though, it would be nice if we'd get some kind of info from Konami already. Like some kind of vague hint of things to come on their Facebook page, or something (although looking back, their "in a perfect world" post might have been worth more than most people thought). I hope they can reveal something at TGS, but boy am I not getting my hopes up.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Deko21 on August 18, 2011, 02:13:40 AM
Weither or not if its for the Vita or consoles, only in time will we see if this is fake or not.

Though i hope its not for the Vita. Then again i really don't mind but still.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Munchy on August 18, 2011, 05:23:50 AM
I second this.

As long as it's physical media, hell yes.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: DoctaMario on August 18, 2011, 07:10:09 AM
Big goddamn surprise Sony tried to FORCE people from specific franchises to buy their crappy handhelds because the games are exclusive. They did it with Dracula X Chronicles, God of War: Chains of Olympus, and MGS: Peacemaker.


Joke's on them. I haven't bought a 3DS for Resident Evil Mercenaries 3D for Revelations, so Sony can suck on it too.

The PSP was a great system. Just because you didn't like it and would rather be cooped up in your house in front of a tv doesn't mean everyone feels that way. I travel quite a bit, so a console isn't really much of an option for me.

Some of you guys need to get over yourselves. Either buy a Vita or don't, but don't bitch about them releasing games just because you don't own the system. Jesus, this community is filled to the brim with whiners. Doesn't matter what they do, it's never good enough. It'd serve this community right if Konami just threw up their hands and said, "Fuck it, we're not gonna bother releasing any more Castlevania games."

With all that said, I really hope this is a redone collection of the earlier games a'la DXC. We could use updates to some of those games playable on a more current system and the Vita/3DS would be the perfect platform for that as I don't know how much love a console release would get.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Maedhros on August 18, 2011, 07:25:46 AM
The PSP was a great system. Just because you didn't like it and would rather be cooped up in your house in front of a tv doesn't mean everyone feels that way. I travel quite a bit, so a console isn't really much of an option for me.

Some of you guys need to get over yourselves. Either buy a Vita or don't, but don't bitch about them releasing games just because you don't own the system. Jesus, this community is filled to the brim with whiners. Doesn't matter what they do, it's never good enough. It'd serve this community right if Konami just threw up their hands and said, "Fuck it, we're not gonna bother releasing any more Castlevania games."

With all that said, I really hope this is a redone collection of the earlier games a'la DXC. We could use updates to some of those games playable on a more current system and the Vita/3DS would be the perfect platform for that as I don't know how much love a console release would get.

Like I said, people are crazy like that. I have a PSP and like you, I think it's a great platform, with lots of great games. In RPG camp, I find it even better than the DS.

The only problems were the lack of third partie support in the west, the strategy of putting "console" type games without proper controls. These problems will be corrected with Vita.

Sony henchmen aren't going to enter your house and force you to buy shit, you buy if you think it's good and that's it. Videogames aren't a necessity, they're a fucking luxury, just remember that and you'll be fine.

Same can be said about Nintendo: They aren't forcing nobody to buy shit. And the games being released for it are mainly ports of console games, people (read: fanboys) just conveniently forget about it.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: PFG9000 on August 18, 2011, 07:56:03 AM
Some of you guys need to get over yourselves. Either buy a Vita or don't, but don't bitch about them releasing games just because you don't own the system. Jesus, this community is filled to the brim with whiners. Doesn't matter what they do, it's never good enough. It'd serve this community right if Konami just threw up their hands and said, "Fuck it, we're not gonna bother releasing any more Castlevania games."

Sony henchmen aren't going to enter your house and force you to buy shit, you buy if you think it's good and that's it. Videogames aren't a necessity, they're a fucking luxury, just remember that and you'll be fine.

Well said, both.  How stupid is it to whine about Konami not putting out an anniversary game, and then whining when you don't like what they finally choose to put out?  Konami doesn't owe you anything.  Yes, you've bought their games.  You bought them because you wanted something fun to play, not because you felt like supporting some foreign company out of the goodness of your heart.  You can stop buying their products anytime you wish.  And they can stop making games anytime they wish.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: A-Yty on August 18, 2011, 08:12:25 AM
lol! That's Peacewalker actually. And it's coming out on the MGS collection for the PS3 so it won't be just on the PSP anymore.

MGS 5: Pacemaker

You play as Solid Snake in his final, final mission. Use the tap function to move Snake's wheelchair around and avoid shitting your pants by moving the analog sticks. Mini-games include using Snake's iPad to play the previous games, putting your fake teeth on and trying not to let Alzheimer's make Snake forget his mission. Co-op included: play as Big Boss who has been resurrected by the Patriots as a spider robot.

Also, as per Hideo Kojima's ingenious idea introduced in the past, the game becomes unusable when you die or complete the game. Initial response has been positive; most Japanese gaming magazines have given the game 9/10.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on August 18, 2011, 09:29:45 AM
@Doctamario
@Maedhros (less so)
@PFG (to a and even less degree)

You guys are not at all helping the situation by bitching about the people who bitch.  It's a cacophony of heavy insulting opinions.  That's even worse of a form than bitching about Konami (who don't at all care that said community is bitching since they won't read any of this anyway).  Let them vent.
Unfortunately, your bitching about the community can be stopped by you not posting said bitchy remarks, just like it can be stopped by them not buying the games.  It's funny how logic works, sometimes.

It is a luxury to buy games and game systems... and with the way the economy is, it makes no sense to have to purchase an expensive new gadget to play a collection of old games.  As such, it does not seem smart for Konami to force people to do that... at least to me.  Maybe the portability is somewhat of a factor, but then why not do it right now, with the PSP?  Why wait?  Seems like Sony may be having somekind of back-stage deal or something.

The people who are bitching aren't anti-fanboys; they're people who don't want to spend money in order to... spend more money.  You're spending to buy a Vita in order to... spend to get a game collection.  Not everyone is made of money, so a lot of us (myself included) would have preferred a collection on an existing console, preferrably one that can deliver high-resolution graphics... and oodles of space... you know, for extra content, etc.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Maedhros on August 18, 2011, 09:54:20 AM
@Doctamario
@Maedhros (less so)
@PFG (to a and even less degree)

You guys are not at all helping the situation by bitching about the people who bitch.  It's a cacophony of heavy insulting opinions.  That's even worse of a form than bitching about Konami (who don't at all care that said community is bitching since they won't read any of this anyway).  Let them vent.
Unfortunately, your bitching about the community can be stopped by you not posting said bitchy remarks, just like it can be stopped by them not buying the games.  It's funny how logic works, sometimes.

It is a luxury to buy games and game systems... and with the way the economy is, it makes no sense to have to purchase an expensive new gadget to play a collection of old games.  As such, it does not seem smart for Konami to force people to do that... at least to me.  Maybe the portability is somewhat of a factor, but then why not do it right now, with the PSP?  Why wait?  Seems like Sony may be having somekind of back-stage deal or something.

The people who are bitching aren't anti-fanboys; they're people who don't want to spend money in order to... spend more money.  You're spending to buy a Vita in order to... spend to get a game collection.  Not everyone is made of money, so a lot of us (myself included) would have preferred a collection on an existing console, preferrably one that can deliver high-resolution graphics... and oodles of space... you know, for extra content, etc.

The argument is still ridiculous, because it can be used by everyone.
For example, I don't have a PS3, neither a XBOX360. I don't want Konami to release it for them, because I don't want to buy it just for it. Why can't they release the game on a platform I own, like the DS?

See? It's ridiculous. If they think releasing the game(which I remind you, is probably fake) on Vita will make them more money, then so be it.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Kale on August 18, 2011, 10:05:47 AM
Actually, it's really rational. It might not happen because of money, but it's a rational thought to want it on what you can play on.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: A-Yty on August 18, 2011, 10:23:08 AM
What Jorge said.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on August 18, 2011, 10:52:54 AM
If they think releasing the game(which I remind you, is probably fake) on Vita will make them more money, then so be it.

That's the thing; many seem to feel (and I agree with them) that it's not smart and  it will not make them more money.

This was proven with "The DraculaX Chronicles".  Had they released that game for, say, PS2.  Or you know what?  You could've maybe done PS2/Wii or PS3/X360, it would have probably generated more sales and exposed the franchise further than PSP.

The PSP is just not that popular in the USA (I think I can say that with some degree of certainty), and some people feel that having the Vita, a brand newcomer system, with its own new pricetag and cloud of 'possible' games, as Konami's choice for a game system for their Chronicles... would probably suffer a similar fate for the title like the DXC title was (in comparison to putting it out on PS3/X360/Wii or something).

I don't think it's that irrational... though I do agree that there's probably some anti-fanboyism playing a part in this.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Maedhros on August 18, 2011, 11:36:56 AM
When Castlevania DXC was released, PSP was pretty popular here. Of course, if you compare it to the DS, then nobody is popular at all.

I don't think it would change anything if they released it for another platform.

Vita is developing to be a great platformer for gamers in general, it's not unreasonable for them to launch the game on it.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: X on August 18, 2011, 11:48:15 AM
Maybe Konami should just release the game on all consoles and handhelds like Atari did with Ghostbusters: The Video Game.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: DoctaMario on August 18, 2011, 06:56:03 PM
@Doctamario
@Maedhros (less so)
@PFG (to a and even less degree)

You guys are not at all helping the situation by bitching about the people who bitch.  It's a cacophony of heavy insulting opinions.  That's even worse of a form than bitching about Konami (who don't at all care that said community is bitching since they won't read any of this anyway).  Let them vent.
Unfortunately, your bitching about the community can be stopped by you not posting said bitchy remarks, just like it can be stopped by them not buying the games.  It's funny how logic works, sometimes.

It is a luxury to buy games and game systems... and with the way the economy is, it makes no sense to have to purchase an expensive new gadget to play a collection of old games.  As such, it does not seem smart for Konami to force people to do that... at least to me.  Maybe the portability is somewhat of a factor, but then why not do it right now, with the PSP?  Why wait?  Seems like Sony may be having somekind of back-stage deal or something.

The people who are bitching aren't anti-fanboys; they're people who don't want to spend money in order to... spend more money.  You're spending to buy a Vita in order to... spend to get a game collection.  Not everyone is made of money, so a lot of us (myself included) would have preferred a collection on an existing console, preferrably one that can deliver high-resolution graphics... and oodles of space... you know, for extra content, etc.

My whole thing is, I'm tired of hearing it. I don't own a PS3 or 360 but I didn't complain when LoS was announced, and guess what, I just didn't get to enjoy the game. I'd love to be able to play LoS or Blaz Blue on my PS2 because I don't really feel like ponying up the $$$ for a PS3, but they don't make those games for that system, so i don't get to play them until I either get a PS3 or borrow one. But to post a bunch of "WAAAAAAAAHHHHHH y u don't mak gamez for system I ownz???" is stupid. It happened when DXC was announced and I remember having to weed through a bunch of stupid posts basically saying what some people are saying here just to get any information on it.

If you know anything about Castlevania, you know they they'll make at least one game for pretty much every system in existence. Sony or Konami isn't forcing anyone to do ANYTHING. If you've got the dough and want to play the game, you spend it. It's not like there aren't versions of potentially EVERY game in this collection that aren't available FOR FREE online. If you REALLY want to play the games and don't want to spend the money, there ARE ways around that. Otherwise, get a job and stop complaining. Viva La Vita!
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on August 18, 2011, 07:04:17 PM
You're welcome to ignore the people who post this, though.
You have this awesome thing called "Free Will".  If you don't like a post, ignore it.  Or walk away.

MY point is, complaining about the people who are complaining, or mocking them or insulting them doesn't help anyone, doesn't help the situation, and makes you potentially seem like more of a whiner (or an ass).
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Renonsgoods on August 18, 2011, 07:07:22 PM
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My whole thing is, I'm tired of hearing it. I don't own a PS3 or 360 but I didn't complain when LoS was announced, and guess what, I just didn't get to enjoy the game. I'd love to be able to play LoS or Blaz Blue on my PS2 because I don't really feel like ponying up the $$$ for a PS3, but they don't make those games for that system, so i don't get to play them until I either get a PS3 or borrow one. But to post a bunch of "WAAAAAAAAHHHHHH y u don't mak gamez for system I ownz???" is stupid. It happened when DXC was announced and I remember having to weed through a bunch of stupid posts basically saying what some people are saying here just to get any information on it.

I don't think that's it at all.  There's just some of us that don't consider portable units to be real gaming systems, and thus should not be the exclusive destination of highly sought-after titles.  Myself, I still have the attitude towards handhelds that they are meant to be a mobile extension of the games we enjoy on our home consoles.  It's great for when you are traveling or away from home, but when you ARE at home, you want to be able to experience these games in their full glory on your big screen and surround sound...with a proper controller in hand. 

Also, for someone that's so sick and tired of the bitching on this board...you sure are doing quite a bit of it now yourself. ;)
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Sindra on August 18, 2011, 07:15:43 PM
My whole thing is, I'm tired of hearing it. I don't own a PS3 or 360 but I didn't complain when LoS was announced, and guess what, I just didn't get to enjoy the game. I'd love to be able to play LoS or Blaz Blue on my PS2 because I don't really feel like ponying up the $$$ for a PS3, but they don't make those games for that system, so i don't get to play them until I either get a PS3 or borrow one. But to post a bunch of "WAAAAAAAAHHHHHH y u don't mak gamez for system I ownz???" is stupid. It happened when DXC was announced and I remember having to weed through a bunch of stupid posts basically saying what some people are saying here just to get any information on it.

If you know anything about Castlevania, you know they they'll make at least one game for pretty much every system in existence. Sony or Konami isn't forcing anyone to do ANYTHING. If you've got the dough and want to play the game, you spend it. It's not like there aren't versions of potentially EVERY game in this collection that aren't available FOR FREE online. If you REALLY want to play the games and don't want to spend the money, there ARE ways around that. Otherwise, get a job and stop complaining. Viva La Vita!

So I'm upset that a Anniversary game I've been waiting for very well might only be released on a new system I very well can't justify getting for just one game. I think that's pretty rational since, like Jorge said, the current economy isn't allowing for a lot of luxuries for anyone these days, and getting a brand new handheld is out of the question for some. Why is it so irrational of me to want something like this to be, I dunno, cross-platform? Not only does it raise the blanket of sales for Konami, but also the chances that I'll (and tons of other people) will be able to play it on at least one handheld or console. I understand they want to push games for the Vita to bank on it's own sales, but it's just not a good idea right now over here.

And DoctaMario? Some of us can't get goddamn jobs no matter how hard we try and haven't been able to for a while due to the job market sucking ass, so you can kindly shove your insensitive comment about getting a job and sucking it up because some of us need to conserve our money rather than blow it like you can on a brand new Sony handheld.

Sorry. Needed to get that out of my system.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Deko21 on August 18, 2011, 07:18:00 PM
This thread really isn't going anywhere if you guys just keep shooting arrows at each other with each post you post.
Really, just stop the whole thing and quit adding gasoline to the fire.

I obviously really don't care what system its made for cause i'll eventually buy it. though i believe i already said that, so no point of whining. Plus eventually the Vita will start growing some fruits people will enjoy and will have them buy a Vita (by fruits i mean games).

I've been a portable gamer since the game boy and i've been a console gamer since the NES. So i can't really take any sides since i'm pretty well rounded. So how bout we just drop all this senseless whining and talk about what matters most, the subject?
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Sonic_Reaper on August 18, 2011, 07:32:23 PM
You guys are arguing about semantics. 

Person A:  I am complaining because a.  it isn't the Castlevania I want and b.  it's on a console I am not interested in for whatever reason.

Person B:  I am complaining about your complaining.

Person C:  I am complaining about you complaining about their complaints.

And wow I agree with Sindra.  I just graduated from a University and am having a ridiculous time finding a job because everyone hiring now all of a sudden sees a higher education as a liability to their bottom line.  What is I can't even indeed.

I don't have a solution to any of these problems.  You know I used to post a lot, but have for better part of the last decade lurked, and it's always the same shit time and again.  I think everyone just needs to stop bitching.  If you don't like the game, fine, whatever.  If you don't like the complaints, just ignore them.  And it seems a little condescending to remind people that they shouldn't complain about others' complaints, as if they are children.

To be honest I think we are all so severely starved for Castlevania that we've run out of things to do/talk about.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: DoctaMario on August 18, 2011, 08:34:20 PM
You're welcome to ignore the people who post this, though.
You have this awesome thing called "Free Will".  If you don't like a post, ignore it.  Or walk away.

MY point is, complaining about the people who are complaining, or mocking them or insulting them doesn't help anyone, doesn't help the situation, and makes you potentially seem like more of a whiner (or an ass).

Your sarcasm is not appreciated. I'm not trying to insult anyone, but it seems like this community whines no matter what Konami does and I'd bet that's part of the reason Konami doesn't bother listening to us.

I don't think that's it at all.  There's just some of us that don't consider portable units to be real gaming systems, and thus should not be the exclusive destination of highly sought-after titles.  Myself, I still have the attitude towards handhelds that they are meant to be a mobile extension of the games we enjoy on our home consoles.  It's great for when you are traveling or away from home, but when you ARE at home, you want to be able to experience these games in their full glory on your big screen and surround sound...with a proper controller in hand. 

Also, for someone that's so sick and tired of the bitching on this board...you sure are doing quite a bit of it now yourself. ;)

Portable gaming is fine and it's attitudes like yours that keep it from being more than it is. Besides, who's to say that this game would be "highly sought after" by anyone but Castlevania fanatics? And how many people do you think really have home gaming rigs with big screen tvs and surround sound?

And I rarely come over here much these days because it seemed like every thread ended up in complaints.

So I'm upset that a Anniversary game I've been waiting for very well might only be released on a new system I very well can't justify getting for just one game. I think that's pretty rational since, like Jorge said, the current economy isn't allowing for a lot of luxuries for anyone these days, and getting a brand new handheld is out of the question for some. Why is it so irrational of me to want something like this to be, I dunno, cross-platform? Not only does it raise the blanket of sales for Konami, but also the chances that I'll (and tons of other people) will be able to play it on at least one handheld or console. I understand they want to push games for the Vita to bank on it's own sales, but it's just not a good idea right now over here.

And DoctaMario? Some of us can't get goddamn jobs no matter how hard we try and haven't been able to for a while due to the job market sucking ass, so you can kindly shove your insensitive comment about getting a job and sucking it up because some of us need to conserve our money rather than blow it like you can on a brand new Sony handheld.

Sorry. Needed to get that out of my system.

But why should Konami spend more of ITS money in a tough economy just because YOU don't want to spend more of YOURS? All this despite the fact that they never promised any kind of "anniversary" title at all. If you want to play the game, you'll have to pay the cost of entry.

I have a shitty job myself, so I won't be buying a Vita, at least not at launch. Video games are one of the things I rarely if ever spend money on these days partially because of this. If you're struggling to get by, then why are you spending money on ANY games?

You know I used to post a lot, but have for better part of the last decade lurked, and it's always the same shit time and again.  I think everyone just needs to stop bitching.  If you don't like the game, fine, whatever.  If you don't like the complaints, just ignore them.  And it seems a little condescending to remind people that they shouldn't complain about others' complaints, as if they are children.

Pretty much this. I don't even come here all that often, but I saw that printout on another site and immediately raced over to create a thread and was happy to find someone that someone already had. But I open it and what is it? More complaining with bits of meaningful discussion.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Tanatra on August 18, 2011, 08:42:34 PM
but it seems like this community whines no matter what

And I rarely come over here much these days because it seemed like every thread ended up in complaints.

But I open it and what is it? More complaining with bits of meaningful discussion.

Uh, welcome to the internet? You just described every online forum in existence, dude.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on August 18, 2011, 08:43:08 PM
Then why do you come here DoctaMario?

If you dislike all the whining an bitching then why do you feel the need to post and add to the whining an bitching?

Why not just IGNORE it and move on?

After all you did say you do not even come here that much anymore so why do you feel the need to come here and throw out insults towards the forum and its members?

Do you just want to be a jerk to everyone here?

Do you just feel the need to cause problems and a potential flame war?

This is just my opinion, but you do not seem any better then the other "bitchers and whiners" you seem to be against on this board.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: DoctaMario on August 18, 2011, 08:44:36 PM
Uh, welcome to the internet? You just described every online forum in existence, dude.

Nah, it's not like this everywhere. I frequent several other forums where this isn't the case. Not to say it's exclusive to the Castlevania community, cuz I know it's not, but it seems to get outta control on all the CV sites I have been a member of.

Then why do you come here DoctaMario?

If you dislike all the whining an bitching then why do you feel the need to post and add to the whining an bitching?

Why not just IGNORE it and move on?

After all you did say you do not even come here that much anymore so why do you feel the need to come here and throw out insults towards the forum and its members?

Do you just want to be a jerk to everyone here?

Do you just feel the need to cause problems and a potential flame war?

This is just my opinion, but you do not seem any better then the other "bitchers and whiners" you seem to be against on this board.

I came here to join a discussion about a potentially big title in a series that really needs a truly great one these days. I made one post about it and then everyone else blew up. Why couldn't YOU have ignored MY post? If everyone is entitled to post their opinions, why am I not afforded that luxury too? Why am I the one who gets told to just "ignore it?"

This thread is already way off topic, and I'm not gonna post any more about this. Let's take it to PMs if you want to continue to berate me.

OT: I do really hope that this title comes to pass because much like Square re-releasing endless Final Fantasy games, it could potentially raise Castlevania's profile and hopefully mean bigger budgets and more time for the folks working on the more current iterations of the game.

Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Renonsgoods on August 18, 2011, 08:54:23 PM


Portable gaming is fine and it's attitudes like yours that keep it from being more than it is. Besides, who's to say that this game would be "highly sought after" by anyone but Castlevania fanatics? And how many people do you think really have home gaming rigs with big screen tvs and surround sound?


I'm quite happy to keep portable gaming down as long as I possibly can. 8)  Sorry, but when we come to the day when all the most desirable games being made are only playable on a 4 to 5 inch LED screen...then that's the day I stop being a contemporary gamer.  Our lives are too transient enough as it is these days without every form of electronic entertainment imaginable becoming a "single serving" affair.

And while not everyone has big screen tvs and sound systems (I wasn't trying to imply that everyone does), a 19 inch tube television and a full fledged controller still beats out a tiny cramped screen, knobby analog sticks, and leprechaun friendly buttons any day of the week.  Sorry, but I can only be arsed to yank out my DS when I'm on the go...when I'm at home I can't stand having to yank out that little contraption just so I can play the latest Castlevania game.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Renonsgoods on August 18, 2011, 08:56:51 PM
but it seems to get outta control on all the CV sites I have been a member of.
Then why are you so shocked and upset about it happening here?  If anything, this is the kind of thing your experience should have taught you to expect by now.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: DoctaMario on August 18, 2011, 09:01:33 PM
I'm quite happy to keep portable gaming down as long as I possibly can. 8)  Sorry, but when we come to the day when all the most desirable games being made are only playable on a 4 to 5 inch LED screen...then that's the day I stop being a contemporary gamer.  Our lives are too transient enough as it is these days without every form of electronic entertainment imaginable becoming a "single serving" affair.

And while not everyone has big screen tvs and sound systems (I wasn't trying to imply that everyone does), a 19 inch tube television and a full fledged controller still beats out a tiny cramped screen, knobby analog sticks, and leprechaun friendly buttons any day of the week.  Sorry, but I can only be arsed to yank out my DS when I'm on the go...when I'm at home I can't stand having to yank out that little contraption just so I can play the latest Castlevania game.

So I take it you didn't like Dracula X Chronicles?

I'm not saying everyone has to LOVE portables, but I don't understand why they get the hate they do, especially when some of the games on them rival their console counterparts. If anything, I wish devs would give MORE exclusives to the portable systems to legitimize them more.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: crisis on August 18, 2011, 09:05:03 PM
all this hubub about a game that MIGHT NOT EVEN BE REAL


but if it is, I wonder if Ayami Kojima will do all new artwork for it


and portable gaming is essential to the industry, blame Nintendo for creating the GameBoy 20 years ago
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: DoctaMario on August 18, 2011, 09:09:44 PM
all this hubub about a game that MIGHT NOT EVEN BE REAL


but if it is, I wonder if Ayami Kojima will do all new artwork for it


and portable gaming is essential to the industry, blame Nintendo for creating the GameBoy 20 years ago

Possibly the most sensible thing said in this entire thread.

And I agree. The game companies that have made inroads to the iPhone/iPod/iPad market and are doing well will have those profits to be able to work on their next console based blockbuster.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Renonsgoods on August 18, 2011, 09:11:57 PM
So I take it you didn't like Dracula X Chronicles?

No, I did enjoy it...on my friend's PSP.  I just wasn't about to buy a new handheld just to play it (point of the argument at hand).  Like I said, I don't mind handhelds when I'm away from home, but when I AM at home...I vastly prefer a real gaming console and television.  And truthfully, that's the only source of my gripe on this discussion.  If this were being released on a home console I don't currently own, then I'd be less inclined to complain.  At some point or another I always end up owning all current gen consoles anyways. 
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: DoctaMario on August 18, 2011, 09:16:31 PM
No, I did enjoy it...on my friend's PSP.  I just wasn't about to buy a new handheld just to play it (point of the argument at hand).  Like I said, I don't mind handhelds when I'm away from home, but when I AM at home...I vastly prefer a real gaming console and television.  And truthfully, that's the only source of my gripe on this discussion.  If this were being released on a home console I don't currently own, then I'd be less inclined to complain.  At some point or another I always end up owning all current gen consoles anyways.

But do you think that a collection like this would even be considered for console release, assuming it is what we think it is? I'm not sure what they have in mind, but I doubt a handful of 2.5D remakes of games from the 80's/90's would fly on the PS3. Portables seem like a more natural fit for something like that.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Renonsgoods on August 19, 2011, 12:30:34 AM
But do you think that a collection like this would even be considered for console release, assuming it is what we think it is? I'm not sure what they have in mind, but I doubt a handful of 2.5D remakes of games from the 80's/90's would fly on the PS3. Portables seem like a more natural fit for something like that.
Well obviously that's what the marketing guys at Konami have been thinking for some time now, hence the reason all new 2D CV's have been exclusive to the handheld systems for the last 10 years or so (Rebirth and Harmony of Despair notwithstanding).  Though personally, I'd rather see a brand new next gen 2D game on the consoles rather than a rehash collection.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Nagumo on August 19, 2011, 01:41:18 AM
We don't even know what the game is going to be like (if it's even real), and people are already complaining about porting it to another system. Apperently because people think it's for the anniversary, it should be ported to PS3, Xbox, 3DS, PSP, Mobile, toaster, and refridgiator. If the game was released for only one of these systems there still would be complaints.

You people should have this discussion until after we know what the game is.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Profbeanburrito on August 19, 2011, 06:20:04 AM
Anyone know where this list of konami gamescom games came from? Is it actually a reliable source or are we all getting excited over nothing?
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Successor The Cruel on August 19, 2011, 07:38:41 AM
Hopefully this is a remake of some game(s) and not just a straight collection of old games. That would be boring as hell, and something I wouldn't be bothered to care about. In this day and age when most CV games are easily emulated, who needs that? Other than that, I can't think of anything else to say about this... which, for some reason, I find oddly disappointing.

Congratulations to you guys for carrying on a 10 page thread based on what little is available.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Koutei on August 19, 2011, 07:54:19 AM
Anyone know where this list of konami gamescom games came from? Is it actually a reliable source or are we all getting excited over nothing?
Konami's Gamescom 2011 all title list (Japanese)
http://www.konami-digital-entertainment.co.jp/ja/news/release/2011/0818/ (http://www.konami-digital-entertainment.co.jp/ja/news/release/2011/0818/)

Google Translate (http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=ja&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.konami-digital-entertainment.co.jp%2Fja%2Fnews%2Frelease%2F2011%2F0818%2F)
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Nagumo on August 19, 2011, 07:57:55 AM
I think he meant the list that had "Complete Chronicles" on it. 
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Maedhros on August 19, 2011, 11:20:09 AM
It comes from someone ass. No, seriously. He just invented the list and put some games in it, some of them already confirmed, some rumored. Every fucking E3 has a list like this, and every E3 they're prooved to be fake, why it wouldn't be the case now?
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Kale on August 19, 2011, 11:29:54 AM
Yea, this does happen alot. But...... who cares? I mean we talk about this every other week, anyway!  :D
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: SenileSnake on August 19, 2011, 02:48:19 PM
successor you can't hide from us forever

yeah i don't get all the talk, either. neither is this confirmed nor has it been hinted at in any way. i don't even get how you got the idea that this was vita only since this allegedly legit list doesn't list platforms. it would be cool, though, but i don't expect anything given konami's laziness and disinterest in the series displayed these past few months / years.

also given that konami won't even bother to do more than upscaling for its moneycow series mgs, there's not much hope they'd just give cv a spa treatment. this might be an instance of "people will buy anything as long as it has BIG BOSS" in it. it sucks because i totally would.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: shelverton. on August 20, 2011, 04:01:15 PM
but i don't expect anything given konami's laziness and disinterest in the series displayed these past few months / years.


Except Lords of Shadow was a pretty big deal. The budget may not have been MGS sized, but Konami is definitely investing in Castlevania right now. Even if they're doing it wrong. They wanna turn Castlevania into God of War, which means Konami REALLY wants Castlevania to be huge. Which it will obviously never be. But "disinterest"? Nah.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: narkolepsi on August 20, 2011, 05:15:08 PM
They wanna turn Castlevania into God of War, which means Konami REALLY wants Castlevania to be huge. Which it will obviously never be. But "disinterest"? Nah.

The truth. The pretty damn sad truth, at that.

A lot of this thread was
Congratulations to you guys for carrying on a 10 page thread based on what little is available.

Much of it is bickering, though. Or is that the gamescom thread? I don't know. There's such extreme anger in the fanbase right now. I'm scared and excited for the anniversary to see what we will or won't get and if it will or won't do it justice.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: neobuldogg on August 21, 2011, 02:55:15 AM
Why the fuck is it for Vita!?!?! GRRRRR...
PSmotherfuckin'THREE or ExBaux or WeeaUuu!

i understand your anger, i wish castlevania would come back to the home consoles. on the other hand imagine the 2-d hires goodness vita could do for castlevania, something along the lines of Dragons Crown!
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: neobuldogg on August 21, 2011, 03:31:45 AM
btw... all Vita games are downloaded... sucks for collectors.

all vita games are NOT download only. there is a card slot for vita games, similar to 3ds. theres even room on the game cartridge set aside for dlc and saves. please dont spread misinformation.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Pemburu Vampir on August 21, 2011, 03:34:30 AM
Why the fuck is it for Vita!?!?! GRRRRR...
PSmotherfuckin'THREE or ExBaux or WeeaUuu!

ExBaux was already dead, sir.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Successor The Cruel on August 21, 2011, 05:20:15 AM
successor you can't hide from us forever

SNAKE! My brother! It's been so long... Memories of when we challenged the world and won are flashing before my eyes. We were an incredibly team.

A lot of this thread was
Much of it is bickering, though. Or is that the gamescom thread? I don't know. There's such extreme anger in the fanbase right now. I'm scared and excited for the anniversary to see what we will or won't get and if it will or won't do it justice.

Ahh, okay. I didn't read most of it, to be honest : p
I guess anger is better than apathy. I don't mean to be a debbie downer, but I can't care enough to be angry at this point. Wake me up when Konami stops being misguided with the Castlevania series. -____-
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Sumac on August 21, 2011, 07:50:42 AM
Quote
They wanna turn Castlevania into God of War, which means Konami REALLY wants Castlevania to be huge. Which it will obviously never be. But "disinterest"? Nah.
CastleVania was once huge, so it's strange to hear that it will never return to the main spot. Obviously it could be done.
And I believe LOS is the right way to do so, if they will add more elemnts from past games.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: shelverton. on August 21, 2011, 09:23:21 AM
CastleVania was once huge, so it's strange to hear that it will never return to the main spot. Obviously it could be done.
And I believe LOS is the right way to do so, if they will add more elemnts from past games.

If I'm not mistaken, only one or possibly two games ever sold more than 1 million copies, but I may be mistaken here. Anyway, even the original NES Castlevania failed to crack the top 50 of most sold NES games ever. Stuff like Adventure Island and Ghosts'n Goblins sold more. So, Castlevania is a classic in ever possible way, but it was never really huge. It's borderline obscure and was always more or less like that.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: A-Yty on August 21, 2011, 10:06:44 AM
Commercially, I don't think CV has ever been big. And I don't mind that at all. I'd like CV to do well in sales, but I kind of also like it being out of the spotlight (not that enjoy having crap like Harmony of Despair). Big sales usually means serving the needs of the casual gamer which is probably why LoS has button-smashing and wall-climbing instead of jumping to avoid medusa heads and finding pot roasts inside walls.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Kingshango on August 21, 2011, 12:41:47 PM
IIRC, Circle of the Moon is currently the highest selling Castlevania game in the series followed by Symphony of the Night and (according to Konami) Lords of Shadow.

Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Nagumo on August 21, 2011, 01:11:31 PM
Funny how Castlevania didn't sell as much as those games back when the series was still "big".     
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: A-Yty on August 21, 2011, 01:39:09 PM
IIRC, Circle of the Moon is currently the highest selling Castlevania game in the series followed by Symphony of the Night and (according to Konami) Lords of Shadow.

That's surprising.

Funny how Castlevania didn't sell as much as those games back when the series was still "big".     

I don't know..maybe one should take into consideration how any video game sold in those days. I could be wrong, but people borrowed them a lot more and bought them a lot less. I remember SNES games being around 400 marks (using the latest exchange rate before it was discontinued, it would be around 67.28 €, which would be about 97 $). When you adjust that to inflation and remember that most people had only one system at a time and due to there being a lot less alternatives, people didn't race through the games in a matter of hours (or even days) and get a new one as soon as the old one was passed. At least I didn't.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Colin B. on August 21, 2011, 07:51:10 PM
IIRC, Circle of the Moon is currently the highest selling Castlevania game in the series followed by Symphony of the Night and (according to Konami) Lords of Shadow.

I want to see your source here.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Oralox on August 21, 2011, 08:14:12 PM
So does Castlevania : The Complete Chronicles exist or no?
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Alukard on August 21, 2011, 08:15:50 PM
Yeah that top selling list seems highly debatable.

On the other note-
I would expect something like this to be on the Vita. Well, actually, I was sure they would have their next title for the 3DS... But anyway! It makes sense because if this is truly a remake or port of some of the classic titles they would put it on the least graphically capable system as it would likely be heavily sprite-based. Some hardcores tend to get POed when they see sprites on a next-gen console. Save the completely new and dedicated intensive graphics titles for 3rd-Attempt Playstation and Full-Rotation Xbox.

And personally-
Solely judging by the title of this new one, I'm not expecting too much. I hope I get proved wrong.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: JR on August 21, 2011, 08:27:58 PM
I want to see your source here.

I think Gametrailers mentioned it in their Castlevania Retrospective, but I've never heard any sales figures otherwise. I'd like to know if Konami themselves have ever released that data in a more official capacity.

That was the same source that said Ghosts n' Goblins for the NES outsold Castlevania for the NES, which is crazy, yet fairly believable.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Nagumo on August 22, 2011, 12:26:00 AM
The source about CotM's sales is from IGN.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Chernabogue on August 22, 2011, 01:39:18 AM
I've been on vacation for 2 weeks and nothing at Gamescon? Shame...
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: narkolepsi on August 22, 2011, 06:47:37 AM
I've been on vacation for 2 weeks and nothing at Gamescon? Shame...

I thought I was missing something when I was on vacation for 5 days, but alas, no. Unless this announcement counts. Pity.

I guess anger is better than apathy. I don't mean to be a debbie downer, but I can't care enough to be angry at this point. Wake me up when Konami stops being misguided with the Castlevania series. -____-

Careful, your slumber might just grow to be as long as Alucard's.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Oralox on August 22, 2011, 09:14:37 AM
Can someone answer my previous question please!
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on August 22, 2011, 09:52:44 AM
We will when we know the answer.  Right now it's rumorville.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: affinity on August 22, 2011, 10:57:23 AM
if CC is true, it might refer to Simon Castlevanias (1, 2, 4, and the other ones)
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: shelverton. on August 22, 2011, 12:29:00 PM
Then again, it could refer to absolutely anything. The word "chronicle" is so vague to me, especially in video games. :/

What is a chronicle? A miserable pile of letters thrown together to form a fancy word. But enough talk...
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Nagumo on August 22, 2011, 01:02:40 PM
I'm not confused about the use of "chronicle" in this case. I'd like to know what the heck "complete" refers to.       
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Sumac on August 22, 2011, 01:12:59 PM
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If I'm not mistaken, only one or possibly two games ever sold more than 1 million copies, but I may be mistaken here. Anyway, even the original NES Castlevania failed to crack the top 50 of most sold NES games ever. Stuff like Adventure Island and Ghosts'n Goblins sold more. So, Castlevania is a classic in ever possible way, but it was never really huge. It's borderline obscure and was always more or less like that.
You are mistalken.
At the NES days CastleVania was one of the biggest (and one of the most popular franchises) of Konami. It was right there with Contra and other big names. Simon Belmont is still regarded as the gaming legend and poster boy for Castlevania series, exactly because series was very big back then.
Super Castlevania 4 and Symphony of the Night are still fondly remembered. So saying stuff "like series always was in shadows" is quite wrong where most of the things telling opposite.
Besides if CV was as obscure as you said, could it survive for the 25 years? Just simple logic.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: shelverton. on August 22, 2011, 02:09:24 PM
You are mistalken.
At the NES days CastleVania was one of the biggest (and one of the most popular franchises) of Konami. It was right there with Contra and other big names. Simon Belmont is still regarded as the gaming legend and poster boy for Castlevania series, exactly because series was very big back then.
Super Castlevania 4 and Symphony of the Night are still fondly remembered. So saying stuff "like series always was in shadows" is quite wrong where most of the things telling opposite.
Besides if CV was as obscure as you said, could it survive for the 25 years? Just simple logic.

My point still stands; The games didn't sell millions of copies like other franchises. Circle of the Moon sold a million, yes, but I'm not sure even SotN did? Castlevania didn't crack the top 50 of best selling NES games. Siimon's Quest and Dracula's Curse fared even worse. Super Castlevania IV wasn't a "best-seller" either, despite being a launch title (at least in europe). Castlevania is not Mario. Or Zelda. Or Mega Man. Contra is rather obscure too, to be honest.

Castlevania is one of the most long-running franchises in gaming history, just not as popular as others. It probably does well enough to keep going, and Konami is proud of it, or something.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Mike Belmont on August 22, 2011, 02:32:33 PM
My point still stands; The games didn't sell millions of copies like other franchises. Circle of the Moon sold a million, yes, but I'm not sure even SotN did? Castlevania didn't crack the top 50 of best selling NES games. Siimon's Quest and Dracula's Curse fared even worse. Super Castlevania IV wasn't a "best-seller" either, despite being a launch title (at least in europe). Castlevania is not Mario. Or Zelda. Or Mega Man. Contra is rather obscure too, to be honest.

Castlevania is one of the most long-running franchises in gaming history, just not as popular as others. It probably does well enough to keep going, and Konami is proud of it, or something.

Well, its popular to me, ando to many as million fans (maybe more, maybe less). And speaking of sales, how many buyers of the top selling franchises stay with its games? I have most of the classic Castlevania´s games, and I am proud of it. Also, I prefer it among others like Ghost n Goblins and Zelda or Mario (in classic games). Maybe other dislike this, but that´s the difference among really fans.

And speaking of the possible Chronicles game, I hope they port to another console or handheld (3DS, of course).
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: crisis on August 22, 2011, 02:35:16 PM
One of the reasons Circle of the Moon sold so much was because it was a Game Boy Advance launch title. Were there any other CV games that were launch titles for any platform?
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: shelverton. on August 22, 2011, 03:09:46 PM
Hm, I hardly remember what we're talking about anymore. All I was trying to say is that some people seem to believe that Castlevania was a HUGE deal back in the day, and that they wish it would go back to that again. In reality, it has probably stayed the same throughout all these years, with a few popularity ups and downs here and there. The fact is that Lords of Shadow has already (probably) outsold all the classic Castlevanias from the 80's and 90's. Of course, it has the benefit of being released on two consoles, but still.

I shouldn't have called Castlevania "bordeline obscure", but is was always a lot less popular than some fans would have you believe. It was never up there with the likes of Mario, Zelda, Sonic, Mega Man or Final Fantasy. But feel feel to prove me wrong, I've been wrong many a times before.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: RichterB on August 22, 2011, 03:11:35 PM
Listen up: Why does this list have to be for Vita? Yuji Naka's "Rodea the Sky Soldier" has only been officially announced for Wii and 3DS last I heard (and that was a while ago). "Glory of Heracles" series is co-owned by Nintendo as far as I know. "MGS: Rising" and the "MGS HD Collections" were supposed to be for PS3/XBOX360. Moreover, the "TBA Contra" was said to be a next-gen relaunch for the franchise like Lords of Shadow (which wasn't a portable game). I think this list is very vague and very multi-platform. A Castlevania collection was rumored a year or so ago for Wii and PSP. This is likely some update of that concept. It may have expanded its multi-platform to include Vita, but I don't think it'll exclude the current generation of systems like Wii/PS3/XBOX360. I don't see that as a logical business move if nothing else, and the titles listed say that, as well.

Hm, I hardly remember what we're talking about anymore. All I was trying to say is that some people seem to believe that Castlevania was a HUGE deal back in the day, and that they wish it would go back to that again. In reality, it has probably stayed the same throughout all these years, with a few popularity ups and downs here and there. The fact is that Lords of Shadow has already (probably) outsold all the classic Castlevanias from the 80's and 90's. Of course, it has the benefit of being released on two consoles, but still.

I shouldn't have called Castlevania "bordeline obscure", but is was always a lot less popular than some fans would have you believe. It was never up there with the likes of Mario, Zelda, Sonic, Mega Man or Final Fantasy. But feel feel to prove me wrong, I've been wrong many a times before.

As far as i recall, Castlevania was a big deal up until about #4. Simon Belmont was a main character on Captain N TV show right next to the likes of Mega Man, and the second issue of Nintendo Power (following up a cover of Mario) featured a famous and controversial Castlevania II cover. There was a cultural recognition among gamers of the time about Castlevania. As to "sales"--that's kind of skewed. Think about the market and perception of video games at the time. Video games themselves were just above niche, so if you had recognition in the that era, you were something of a popular hit. Some series you mentioned like Sonic and Final Fantasy bloomed more in popularity after Castlevania's initial surge to my recollection.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Successor The Cruel on August 23, 2011, 08:00:20 AM
Unless anyone has any solid proof of sales (and I doubt they do), then why even try to discuss this? Besides, there are so many factors at work anyway. Yesterday's popular, sales-wise, may not be the same as today's popular. Back then, video games were a past time that primarily children partook in. Children who often didn't have jobs, which means they often didn't have their own money, which is why trading was so common. Nowadays, I don't think the industry is sustained as exclusively by children. People who played video games back then are still playing them, and they're like 35 years-old now. The people who came after them are playing them, too, and that's a heck of a lot of people.

Point-being: More people are playing video games these days, and also more people who have the means to spend more money on them. I don't think you can really compare sales then to sales now without considering several different factors that have changed over the years.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Colin B. on August 23, 2011, 08:10:40 AM
at the end of the conversation, we still have to admit that Castlevania doesn't sell like Mario.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Successor The Cruel on August 23, 2011, 08:38:30 AM
Perhaps the same could be said of all religions.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on August 23, 2011, 09:25:58 AM
at the end of the conversation, we still have to admit that Castlevania doesn't sell like Mario.

There are ALOT of games that do not sell like Mario...
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: shelverton. on August 23, 2011, 11:13:29 AM
No, one shouldn't compare sales of the past with the multi billion dollar industry of today. But when talking about the original Castlevania, I am comparing it to the NES games of the 80's and 90's, and guess what? It. Still. Did. Not. Crack. Top 50. HUGE franchises did.

But enough. None of us have any real proof of anything. I am referring to wikipedia, ign and gametrailers. Maybe they're wrong, dunno.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Successor The Cruel on August 23, 2011, 11:22:46 AM
Maybe you were doing that, but you were also doing this:

The fact is that Lords of Shadow has already (probably) outsold all the classic Castlevanias from the 80's and 90's. Of course, it has the benefit of being released on two consoles, but still.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: RichterB on August 23, 2011, 01:06:24 PM
More important than any of this sales stuff is the topic's focus. I think we can agree, after the points I made earlier, that it's highly unlikely the "leaked" list was Vita-exclusive. That's good news.

(...And my final word was on cultural video game significance, not sales. Up until CV#4, sales or not, CV was near the top of the list, around or just below Mega Man level, AFTER Mario and the Big-N mainline titles. Aside from being featured in Captain N and Nintendo Power, I had young relatives at the time who nicknamed themselves after NES characters of the time including Simon Belmont, Mega Man, Little Nemo, and Bayou Billy. Castlevania was thus a part of the discussion, even if it wasn't Mario or Zelda level).
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: KaZudra on August 23, 2011, 01:21:01 PM
More important than any of this sales stuff is the topic's focus. I think we can agree, after the points I made earlier, that it's highly unlikely the "leaked" list was Vita-exclusive. That's good news.

 I'm damn certain there wasn't a MGS or Silent Hill Collection announced for the Vita, this list is 100% non-vita exclusive.
its probably an overall list.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Nagumo on August 23, 2011, 01:41:26 PM
I guess the only thing left to do now is hype up Tokyo Gameshow and get disappointed again.   

hypehypehype
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: crisis on August 23, 2011, 02:22:16 PM
Are you suggesting I should invest in some lighter fluid?
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Sonic_Reaper on August 23, 2011, 03:25:20 PM
Shall we take this topic into the realm not often ventured? 

Castlevania will never be a  big seller.  It isn't marketable to a wide audience.  The series, overall, is dark and gothic.  If we take a look at what is popular, based on sales, this is never the case.  Mario, for example, is more or less a cartoon.  It will appeal to young and old alike.  It doesn't contain any graphic violence, another point in it's favor.  It is simple, easy to get into, and addictive.  Castlevania doesn't contain any of these elements, save for being addictive.  Konami knows this.  It is in the business to make money.  Games are not classified as "art", so the top selling point and purpose of any game;  is it marketable?  Look at what they tried with Dawn and Portrait.  They kiddied up the artwork, decreased the dark and Gothic tones of the storyline.  This is more or less all they were able to do, so that it could still be called Castlevania.  There isn't any way to remove the violent aspect of the games, it is tied into it's mythos after all.  Mario has created it's own mythos, one that involves magical talking mushrooms, turtles and sentient chain balls.  By this very fact alone, Castlevania will never be popular.  The vampire and monster mythos has also had a large slice of cheese associated with it, but that's just it's nature.  While Mario is bright and cheerful, it isn't necessarily cheese or dramatic, it's very light and sweet.  But that is another point in it's favor.  Whether we like the stories presented in Castlevania games or not, they just ooze cheese from every pore.  Most of the time, it's over the top and especially dramatic.

It is a difficult series to market.  Konami changed gears again with LoS.  They attempted to tie into what is popular in the western gaming front.  Unfortunately, they're just creating further confusion among the gaming audience.  Casual onlookers who were hooked with the DS installments, are not interested in a new series facelift, especially one that has become even more gothic, dramatic and darker still.  Fans who have stuck with the series between it's constant shifts and turns, are puzzled as well.  Castlevania doesn't necessarily have an identity.  It's alright to borrow from mythos, but what Castlevania has been known for, from it's roots, weren't particular strong traits to begin with.  Let's take a look, and break it down to it's simplest form.

Side scrolling action.
Cheese-tastic gothic storyline and setting, borrowing from European vampire mythos.

There's not really much to go on.  Side-scrollers are no longer popular.  Even Megaman won't pull in the numbers it used to.  It was a creation based on the limitations of the hardware, and while the GBA and DS titles maintained this tradition, it was far removed from the level based static gameplay of the originals.  As for the background mythos, it has become overused, watered down and mainstreamed to the point where people no longer take it seriously or care (ie:  Twilight, ugh).  Castlevania is no longer tied to any particular history or evolution.  It is thus, no longer marketable.  Hate to make it sound so depressing, but thus is the nature of the videogame industry, and it will become even more so as time goes on and profits become ever more important.

In an ideal world, where videogames are indeed art, an expression of an individual, an idea brought to life, Castlevania could be re-examined and brought back to life.  If I were a director, I would take it way back to it's roots.  For Konami, it's a series that doesn't seem worth the hassle.  It doesn't bring in lots of cash and isn't particularly marketable.  They are continuing to spin it in different ways, ones with the least risk, and I think HoD  is a good example of that.  Keep the development costs way down, and still sell it to the DS crowd, since it's essentially the same game, using the same assets.

My two cents.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: X on August 23, 2011, 06:08:46 PM
Your two cents go a long way my friend. It's really sad when you think about it  :'(
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: KaZudra on August 23, 2011, 08:48:24 PM
hmmm, sadly your two cents DON'T go far.

Have you seen the sales on New super Mario Bros.? platformers are long from dead.

Castlevania was a Megaton Giant back in the day, declaring it was never a big seller is a HUGE understatement.

The big reason Castlevania isn't selling too well is because each newer game isn't distinctively different from the other, while the 2d ones are more or less a copy of SoTn, the 3d ones tend to copy DMC or dynasty warriors.

Most of the sales also deals with Hype and advertisement.

Oh yeah, I distinctively remember HD being the top seller on XBLA for two weeks.

for the record, a new Megaman game would probably print money at this point.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Sonic_Reaper on August 24, 2011, 12:46:07 AM
hmmm, sadly your two cents DON'T go far.

Have you seen the sales on New super Mario Bros.? platformers are long from dead.

Castlevania was a Megaton Giant back in the day, declaring it was never a big seller is a HUGE understatement.

The big reason Castlevania isn't selling too well is because each newer game isn't distinctively different from the other, while the 2d ones are more or less a copy of SoTn, the 3d ones tend to copy DMC or dynasty warriors.

Most of the sales also deals with Hype and advertisement.

Oh yeah, I distinctively remember HD being the top seller on XBLA for two weeks.

for the record, a new Megaman game would probably print money at this point.

A.  Mario is a platformer yes, but ... did you ignore everything else I said?  It's Mario.  Plus, Mario has already evolved in every direction possible.  This is feasible because he's essentially a cartoonish blank slate.  Extremely marketable, open and accepted by everyone, boy, girl, young and old.  This is not the case with Castlevania.

B.  Back in the day.  Operative word here.  It's no longer a big seller due to what I already previously discussed (not keen on repeating myself), plus, thank you for adding to the list.  Yes, it's become stale as well, and Konami tried to market it in different ways (more kid friendly, anime-ish, plus more serious western style God of War).  And guess what, it didn't sell all that amazingly on both counts.  It sold back in the day because exceptions were lower, fewer options available on the market, it was a novelty at the time.  The novelty has run very, very dry, and the vampire/monster mythos has been done to death and back.  People are tried of it.  Mario can continue to evolve because essentially the Mario universe is not tied down by ANY concepts.

C.  I agree with the hype and advertisement.  But then Konami run into the problem of how to market the series.  Go back to the anime roots?  Keep it serious?  As has been seen even on these boards, LoS divided the fan base greatly, as did the previous DS installments.  Sure, they may have garnered a more casual/alternate audience, but their sales just weren't that impressive.

D.  As far as I know, the HoD numbers weren't all that impressive.  Plus, it was a budget title.

E.  Capcom recently cancelled Megaman Legends 3.  If the series really were to print money, I don't see why they would've done such a thing.

F.  Another of Konami's long struggling series, Suikoden, has apparently been recently axed, with the development team being disbanded.  Another series that struggled to find it's voice, and was simply too expensive to develop for the meager returns garnered.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Kale on August 24, 2011, 01:11:38 AM
E.  Capcom recently cancelled Megaman Legends 3.  If the series really were to print money, I don't see why they would've done such a thing.

F.  Another of Konami's long struggling series, Suikoden, has apparently been recently axed, with the development team being disbanded.  Another series that struggled to find it's voice, and was simply too expensive to develop for the meager returns garnered.

For both, they put in minimum effort and expect great returns, but since that didn't happen, they axed them. Neither of them had a great sucess before, but because they didn't want to try to make it better, despite a good popularity, they just thought, screw it.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: KaZudra on August 24, 2011, 01:23:39 AM
all are justified but E:
E.  Capcom recently cancelled Megaman Legends 3.  If the series really were to print money, I don't see why they would've done such a thing.

Crapcom wants to cash in on minimalist Games, They Promised to Judge the Development of MMl3 based on the Prototype version's sales.
Guess what, Inafune leaves and capcom gets anal, they close the devroom and despite how active the fans were, they point their fingers as us, the fucking fans.
and to make matters worst, THEY DIDN'T EVEN RELEASE THE PROTOTYPE!

Capcom just cares for the money and the retarded ass people who pay for their no effort shit.

MvC3 was a $60 Beta, you now have to cash in $40 for features and Balances that should have been free updates, and a mandatory Character pack which mostly consists of Shitty Characters.

Dead Rising 2 had a $5 Demo "Arcade title"

SSFIV was a $15 Update

Dead Rising 2 off the record is just DR2 with a Different Character, $40

Devil May Cry reboots with a Half Angel Dante, who is full of generic rage, nuff said.

All DLC means to capcom is Disk Locked Content, that'll be $15 to unlock something you've already bought on disk.

There are NO planned Megeman Releases for the Next 5 years, and a few months ago announced a new Megaman explosion.

As you see from many examples, Capcom Does not Care for any of their fans, nor respect their costumers.

They knew a New Megaman would Require effort, and they just want to scam you, so it was canceled.

so, my friend, E is invalidated, but the rest I can agree on or agree to disagree.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Sonic_Reaper on August 24, 2011, 02:08:56 AM
all are justified but E:
Crapcom wants to cash in on minimalist Games, They Promised to Judge the Development of MMl3 based on the Prototype version's sales.
Guess what, Inafune leaves and capcom gets anal, they close the devroom and despite how active the fans were, they point their fingers as us, the fucking fans.
and to make matters worst, THEY DIDN'T EVEN RELEASE THE PROTOTYPE!

Capcom just cares for the money and the retarded ass people who pay for their no effort shit.

MvC3 was a $60 Beta, you now have to cash in $40 for features and Balances that should have been free updates, and a mandatory Character pack which mostly consists of Shitty Characters.

Dead Rising 2 had a $5 Demo "Arcade title"

SSFIV was a $15 Update

Dead Rising 2 off the record is just DR2 with a Different Character, $40

Devil May Cry reboots with a Half Angel Dante, who is full of generic rage, nuff said.

All DLC means to capcom is Disk Locked Content, that'll be $15 to unlock something you've already bought on disk.

There are NO planned Megeman Releases for the Next 5 years, and a few months ago announced a new Megaman explosion.

As you see from many examples, Capcom Does not Care for any of their fans, nor respect their costumers.

They knew a New Megaman would Require effort, and they just want to scam you, so it was canceled.

so, my friend, E is invalidated, but the rest I can agree on or agree to disagree.

Boohoo.  Capcom doesn't owe anyone anything.  As I stated before, videogames are business.  Regardless of how anyone feels, company's are not going to put in rediculous effort on a product that returns mediocre sales.  It just doesn't make any business sense.  Yes, there was interest in Legends 3, but it was from a small dedicated crowd.  In the gaming world, even sales in the 100-200k range are considered WEAK.  Legends, as a series, never sold large amounts to begin with.  The DS Castlevania games are in the same range, midle 400-500k range.  It's considered a profit, but not by a huge margin.  Unfortunately, that's what game companies want, a large margin.  We're talking high 800-900k range.  Take this into consideration, even with well over 2 million sales, FFXIII wasn't considered a success.  The first Xenosaga, by Namco, made it to Greatest Hits, that's at least 400k, and the series was never resolved, regardless!

Describing Capcom, the same can apply to HoD.  But it's a catch 22.  We don't support the laziness, we don't see anymore Castlevania.  If we do, we see more Castlevania, but simply more lazy rehashes.  Again, these game companies don't owe us anything.  But that has more to do with the industry needing an attitude change than anything.  But again, business is business.  These companies are in it to make money, not to please a (to their standards) small hardcore crowd.

I don't see how that invalidates my points.  If anything, it merely cements it.  If even the most marketable series that have been around since the 80's are no longer doing well, or a company has to scrape by with minimal effort to churn a profit, well, that just means something's gotta give in the gaming industry, and isn't necessarily the fault of a company.  Game company's do not have consciousness, they merely function on a profit basis.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: KaZudra on August 24, 2011, 03:49:03 AM
Boohoo.  Capcom doesn't owe anyone anything.  As I stated before, videogames are business.  Regardless of how anyone feels, company's are not going to put in rediculous effort on a product that returns mediocre sales.  It just doesn't make any business sense.  Yes, there was interest in Legends 3, but it was from a small dedicated crowd.  In the gaming world, even sales in the 100-200k range are considered WEAK.  Legends, as a series, never sold large amounts to begin with.  The DS Castlevania games are in the same range, midle 400-500k range.  It's considered a profit, but not by a huge margin.  Unfortunately, that's what game companies want, a large margin.  We're talking high 800-900k range.  Take this into consideration, even with well over 2 million sales, FFXIII wasn't considered a success.  The first Xenosaga, by Namco, made it to Greatest Hits, that's at least 400k, and the series was never resolved, regardless!

Describing Capcom, the same can apply to HoD.  But it's a catch 22.  We don't support the laziness, we don't see anymore Castlevania.  If we do, we see more Castlevania, but simply more lazy rehashes.  Again, these game companies don't owe us anything.  But that has more to do with the industry needing an attitude change than anything.  But again, business is business.  These companies are in it to make money, not to please a (to their standards) small hardcore crowd.

I don't see how that invalidates my points.  If anything, it merely cements it.  If even the most marketable series that have been around since the 80's are no longer doing well, or a company has to scrape by with minimal effort to churn a profit, well, that just means something's gotta give in the gaming industry, and isn't necessarily the fault of a company.  Game company's do not have consciousness, they merely function on a profit basis.


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
*breathes* AHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA!

yeah, the game companies don't owe thier costumers anything, that's by far, the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

No Customers = No Money, No Money = Bye Bye.

Don't Act like they'll be giants no matter what, because when it comes to the nitty gritty, the consumers are Paying them.
Piss off the consumers enough and you'll be in trouble.

Sure HD was Lazy, but it was a new concept for the franchise, I don't think it was even intended to sell well.

but its not laziness when it comes to capcom, its Scamming, flatout lying to your face, I don't see why you're gonna defend Corporate thieves.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Sonic_Reaper on August 24, 2011, 04:18:11 AM

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
*breathes* AHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA!

yeah, the game companies don't owe thier costumers anything, that's by far, the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

No Customers = No Money, No Money = Bye Bye.

Don't Act like they'll be giants no matter what, because when it comes to the nitty gritty, the consumers are Paying them.
Piss off the consumers enough and you'll be in trouble.

Sure HD was Lazy, but it was a new concept for the franchise, I don't think it was even intended to sell well.

but its not laziness when it comes to capcom, its Scamming, flatout lying to your face, I don't see why you're gonna defend Corporate thieves.

Unfortunately everything I've said is true.  I don't mean to say it's right, it's just the way it is.  Game companies look at profits, above all, to determine their next steps.  I suppose I should have phrased it different, it's not that they owe their customers anything, their decisions are based on whatever game sells the most copies.  This is more or less the idea behind all business, especially in the Japanese corporate world.  When an idea sells, they will continue to replicate it until it is no longer profitable.  Whether there is still demand and a dedicated fanbase, does not matter.  If the numbers do not add up, the company will discontinue a series.  It is in this way I mean they don't owe the customer anything.

Not intended to sell well?  Wow.  Seriously?  Why would any game company release a game with the intention of it not selling well?  Doesn't make any sense.  With HoD they were grasping at the DS crowd that was still around.  Not huge numbers, but that's why the development was so cheap and nearly 100% of the assets were reused.  It's better than nothing.  I suppose we should be happy we got LoS, but this is a good example of what I mean.  The dedicated hardcore fanbase is split between old school platformer Castlevania and the newer age RPG Metroidvanias.  LoS is neither.  It merely seeks to emulate what is popular in the west, where Castlevania sells more copies anyway.  It's not what the fanbase wanted.  Konami is instead looking at cold hard numbers.  So sorry to burst your bubble, but them "owing" their customers anything, is the farthest thing in their minds.  Another way to think about it, games are a luxury.  You don't have to buy ANY game, and that will send a strong message.  Just like WE don't owe game companies anything, it is the same for them.

And to clear things up, I am not defending them.  Notice how I mentioned in my previous post that the current state of affairs is somewhat of a malady, and I don't like it anymore than the next person.  But it's just the way it is, whether we, as fans, like it or not.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: KaZudra on August 24, 2011, 04:24:11 AM
Unfortunately everything I've said is true.  I don't mean to say it's right, it's just the way it is.  Game companies look at profits, above all, to determine their next steps.  I suppose I should have phrased it different, it's not that they owe their customers anything, their decisions are based on whatever game sells the most copies.  This is more or less the idea behind all business, especially in the Japanese corporate world.  When an idea sells, they will continue to replicate it until it is no longer profitable.  Whether there is still demand and a dedicated fanbase, does not matter.  If the numbers do not add up, the company will discontinue a series.  It is in this way I mean they don't owe the customer anything.

Not intended to sell well?  Wow.  Seriously?  Why would any game company release a game with the intention of it not selling well?  Doesn't make any sense.  With HoD they were grasping at the DS crowd that was still around.  Not huge numbers, but that's why the development was so cheap and nearly 100% of the assets were reused.  It's better than nothing.  I suppose we should be happy we got LoS, but this is a good example of what I mean.  The dedicated hardcore fanbase is split between old school platformer Castlevania and the newer age RPG Metroidvanias.  LoS is neither.  It merely seeks to emulate what is popular in the west, where Castlevania sells more copies anyway.  It's not what the fanbase wanted.  Konami is instead looking at cold hard numbers.  So sorry to burst your bubble, but them "owing" their customers anything, is the farthest thing in their minds.  Another way to think about it, games are a luxury.  You don't have to buy ANY game, and that will send a strong message.  Just like WE don't owe game companies anything, it is the same for them.

And to clear things up, I am not defending them.  Notice how I mentioned in my previous post that the current state of affairs is somewhat of a malady, and I don't like it anymore than the next person.  But it's just the way it is, whether we, as fans, like it or not.

that's cool, I do recall a American/Japanese Developer Stating that Japanese Companies lack social Skills.
If the numbers is all that count, we'll just use our ability to help those numbers...
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Sonic_Reaper on August 24, 2011, 04:41:40 AM
Which is fine and all, but my initial concerns were whether Castlevania has enough appeal to draw those kinds of numbers.  I'm not convinced.  It doesn't strike me as a series that will sell beyond it's hardcore dedicated fanbase.  Which is sad.  At the same time, I feel the series is at a crossroads, as far as it's identity is concerned.  Is it an action sidescroller?  Action sidescroller with RPG and collection elements?  A 3D action series?  You know?  Is it all of them at the same time?  It just seems like a series that lacks focus.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Flame on August 24, 2011, 07:20:14 AM
Capcom's error was in using the devroom's numbers to determine the number of units they would sell. the devroom which when it opened- explicitly stated fans DID NOT HAVE TO JOIN, BUT COULD INSTEAD HANG BACK AND JUST WATCH. the Devroom was optional. you didnt need to join to follow the project.

It was a stupid way to judge.

Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Abnormal Freak on August 24, 2011, 07:36:56 AM
that's cool, I do recall a American/Japanese Developer Stating that Japanese Companies lack social Skills.
If the numbers is all that count, we'll just use our ability to help those numbers...

Not me, boy-o. :o For years I've been wondering why I still bother buying new Castlevania games when they entertain me less and less. I have zero interest in Lords of Shadow so it won't be seeing my dough (I've been borrowing it from a friend for several months and STILL haven't touched it), and I already feel ridiculously crappy for having shelled out money for Harmony of Despair (which is a problem with download-only games—I can't resell them). If Konami keeps pushing out the crap, I'm not gonna swallow it anymore. The next game, whatever that may—Castlevania: Adagio of Restlessness or whatever—will likely be just the same tripe we've been fed for a decade, and thus offer up nothing new or interesting. If that's all Castlevania is about—uninspired level designs, recycled sprites, nothing innovative—it can die for all I care.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: whitedragon_nall on August 24, 2011, 08:19:49 AM
Didn't think this was new thread worthy since little to no info is known about it, but Konami will be holding a press conference tomorrow. Some believe it's related to a new Love Plus or Little King's Story, but I guess we'll find out tomorrow.

http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/08/24/konami_conference/ (http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/08/24/konami_conference/)
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: shelverton. on August 24, 2011, 09:09:28 AM

Castlevania was a Megaton Giant back in the day, declaring it was never a big seller is a HUGE understatement.

You keep saying that, and I simply disagree. I wanna see some actual figures here cause all I'm seeing is that the NES Castlevania was less profitable than Metal Gear, Gradius and even Contra.  And then I'm only talking about Konami. Simon's Quest and Dracula's Curse are nowhere to be found on the lists I've seen. I need to take a look at SNES sales to know more about Super Castlevania IV though, but I'll be very surprised if I find it in the top 50 or even top 100.

But this is retarded. You can call old school Castlevania a "MEGATON GIANT!" and I'll call it a classic that should've done much better. Captain N only proves that there weren't that many video game heroes back in the day. Maybe Konami even wanted Simon to be in for marketung purposes, not because Simon was THAT friggin popular.

But anyway. Lots of things I say here are probably flawed, but so is everyone elses.

Now, where were we? Oh yes, Castlevania Complete Chronicles..
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Sumac on August 24, 2011, 02:35:31 PM
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You keep saying that, and I simply disagree.
You could kepp saying that and you still will be wrong.
CastleVania was big back in the NES day. Simon Belmont was one of the NES faces basically. That's counts for something. Not "numbers" and "numbers".

And Capcom one day will blow up because of they greediness and readyness to use bastard schemes to fill they pockets.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: shelverton. on August 25, 2011, 03:44:19 AM
You could kepp saying that and you still will be wrong.

Has it really come to that? "You are wrong". LOL.

And no, I'm not wrong. Calling old school Castlevania a megaton giant is ridiculous. But seriously, I am the minority here so I'll just rest my case. Have it your way :)

Anyway, is there a Konami press conference today?
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: crisis on August 25, 2011, 06:35:53 AM
Sumac is obviously a robot. Don't worry, shelvy.

Konami press conferences don't reveal anything anymore.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: PFG9000 on August 25, 2011, 08:32:55 AM
I don't think it's fair to say that CV was a megaton giant.  I was big into video games in the NES era, and all my friends were, too.  Several of them had CV1 and one rented CV2.  We were all aware of the series, but CV wasn't anywhere as big as Mario, and eventually Sonic.

You have to remember that gaming was absolutely different back then.  Today, gaming is recognized as a mainstream pasttime and a powerful form of media.  But in the late 80's, gaming was something that young kids did.  Most adults saw it as a fad; just the latest toy.  Sure, they knew who Mario was, just like we know who the Teletubbies were and Dora the CrackWhora, but nobody with a wallet cared about the medium beyond wondering what their kid wanted for Christmas.  So there were the big names (Mario), and a handful of smaller ones like Contra, Zelda, Ninja Gaiden, and Castlevania.  Those smaller names were popular as games, but only because there was about 1% as many games available then as there are now, and those titles were the good ones.  They didn't have any sort of brand power whatsoever, and they sure as hell weren't "megaton giants."
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Sumac on August 25, 2011, 02:26:37 PM
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Has it really come to that? "You are wrong". LOL.
You couldn't accept obvious arguments. So you're wrong. LOL.

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Sumac is obviously a robot. Don't worry, shelvy.
Crisis is obviously an old zombie. Don't worry anyone.  :rollseyes:

Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: KaZudra on August 25, 2011, 02:34:18 PM
Numbers... pfft. Numbers dont mean jack when 3 kids form 3 different house came to my house to play video games... cause that's how 90's kids role.
Today Sales are blown up because Game Consoles are too 1 person orientated, and every kid pretty much has a console now, which sucks because it's seriously hurting child social development.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: shelverton. on August 25, 2011, 02:57:19 PM
You couldn't accept obvious arguments. So you're wrong. LOL.

"Obvious arguments"? Are you serious? There were none. All I see is basically "Castlevania was a megaton giant because we think so". You completely ignore the fact that the games didn't sell nearly as much as the real giants back in the day. And then some of you say sales don't count. Right. If so I don't know what does. Btw, I am so over this conversation now. END.

EDIT: Kamui, it seems strange that all the other giants sold quite well, but Castlevania didn't. At least not as much. Maybe everyone borrowed everyone elses copies of Castlevania all the time. Yeah, that must be it. They bought Mario, Zelda, Mega Man and so on, but they secretly thought Castlevania was just as huge, in fact so huge that they didn't buy it.

EDIT 2: I almost wish Jorge would give me a warning so I could stop this nonsense. Heck, I'll give myself a warning instead: SHELVERTON YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED! Ok, I'll stop now :D
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Sumac on August 25, 2011, 05:19:08 PM
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"Obvious arguments"? Are you serious? There were none. All I see is basically "Castlevania was a megaton giant because we think so". You completely ignore the fact that the games didn't sell nearly as much as the real giants back in the day. And then some of you say sales don't count. Right. If so I don't know what does. Btw, I am so over this conversation now. END.
Yeah, you over with this conversation. Because you can not absolutely prove that you're right, right?

When I say that Castlevania was great, I mean strictly small period of time 87-91.
I should remind to you, that unlike Mario, MegaMan, Zelda  there were not that much Castlevania games on one single console. The series was spreed all over the place. So that's no wonder that CV somewhat fell into obscurity after SCV4. It didn't have enough presence on  popular consoles. The same situation practically repeated, when after SOTN each new game was released on the portable GBA. While popular in it's own right, it's hard to compete for the players attention with the games for the "big" consoles.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: PFG9000 on August 25, 2011, 11:20:33 PM
When I say that Castlevania was great, I mean strictly small period of time 87-91.
I should remind to you, that unlike Mario, MegaMan, Zelda  there were not that much Castlevania games on one single console. The series was spreed all over the place. So that's no wonder that CV somewhat fell into obscurity after SCV4. It didn't have enough presence on  popular consoles.
Castlevania
NES: 3
SNES: 2
Gameboy: 3

Zelda
NES: 2
SNES: 1
Gameboy: 3

Mario
NES: 3
SNES: 2
Gameboy: 2
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: KaZudra on August 26, 2011, 12:14:16 AM
Castlevania
MSX: 1
Famicom Disk: 2
NES: 3
SNES: 2
Gameboy: 3

Zelda
Famicom Disk: 1
NES: 2
SNES: 1
Gameboy: 3

Mario
NES: 3
SNES: 2
Gameboy: 2

Fix'd
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Sumac on August 26, 2011, 12:42:11 AM
Don't forget how much passed between releases of CV games on NES and SNES.
SC4 - 1991, CVDX - 1995.
I don't think CVA games made such an impact to the series, to be brought into discussion. Big consoles, like NES, Genesis and SNES are where it at. And CV had quite a shaky presence on the latter two.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Successor The Cruel on August 26, 2011, 12:57:53 AM
When I say that Castlevania was great, I mean strictly small period of time 87-91.

We go from sales to discussing when Castlevania was "great"? : T

Well, if we're going to do that, I think it was great from 2002 to 2003 : D

Anyway, Castlevania has always been a very well respected video game series, but it's never had an earth-shattering release like Super Mario Bros. and SMB3, Street Fighter II, Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy VII, The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Halo, or Pokemon Red and Blue. Those are, what I believe, most people would consider giants in the video game industry. It would be difficult to prove otherwise. To think Castlevania has had a release as financially successful or influential as any of those would be deluding yourself.

I don't know what all this talk is of Mega Man, because, from my perspective, I don't think it's much better off, if at all. It was a big deal on the NES (for a time) and had some success on the SNES, but... what was Mega Man X compared to Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter II? I think the recent downloadable games made a big splash because they were novel ideas, which no one had ever seen anything like at the time. Well... they had seen something just like them years and years ago... but you know... It was a good idea and the right time for it.

I think Castlevania is cool (well, it has been on really shaky ground to me ever since 04 or so, with a few hits but so many misses), but let's not let our fandom uproot us from reality.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Profbeanburrito on August 26, 2011, 06:03:40 AM
I'm thinking this thread should be locked out too. Nobody can keep these things on topic...
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Nagumo on August 26, 2011, 08:07:38 AM
Why the hell did you change your username?
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Profbeanburrito on August 26, 2011, 09:02:58 AM
Why the hell did you change your username?

Lol! I assume you're talking to me? I changed it to keep it the same with other user names like on PSN and other web things
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: crisis on August 26, 2011, 09:30:37 AM
So ur name is kyle or kevin... last name martin?

you'll always be professor beanburrito in our hearts...
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Profbeanburrito on August 26, 2011, 11:18:07 AM
So ur name is kyle or kevin... last name martin?

you'll always be professor beanburrito in our hearts...

Actually you're very close. My name is Kyle and my last name is close to Martin. I didn't know the prof. Beanburrito name was so like. Makes me feel warm and fuzzy!  Maybe I'll have to switch it back here...
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Sumac on August 26, 2011, 11:46:49 AM
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We go from sales to discussing when Castlevania was "great"? : T
I meant that CV was a big name during that time. Giving te context of the discussion it should have been obvious to anyone how to interpret that.

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Well, if we're going to do that, I think it was great from 2002 to 2003 : D
For me it was 1986-2001. After that series go down the route of cloning and nonsensical animeish stories, that I believe completely out of place in the series.

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Anyway, Castlevania has always been a very well respected video game series, but it's never had an earth-shattering release like Super Mario Bros. and SMB3, Street Fighter II, Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy VII, The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Halo, or Pokemon Red and Blue.
I am agree with you on this. CV was never that big franchise that was always in the eyes of the public, but at least during NES times it was one of the biggest names in the Konami library of games and possibly one of the most popular NES series in that small period of time.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Purple Eyes on August 28, 2011, 07:13:45 PM
I would get Vita, just for this :P I hope it's real
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: KaZudra on August 29, 2011, 02:39:42 AM
I would get a Vita, If Sony would quit advertising weak-ass spin-off titles like they did with the PSP.
PSP is a great system, but its beyond sad that you have to discover all the greatness instead of guided toward it.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on August 29, 2011, 08:38:29 AM
I didn't know the prof. Beanburrito name was so like. Makes me feel warm and fuzzy!  Maybe I'll have to switch it back here...

Actually I also really liked "profbeanburrito".  It gave your posts both an air of authority (with Professor) as well as a touch of hilarity (bean burrito?  lolz yum).

I pictured a gentlemanly burrito with a monocle.

Also, I almost did not improve your profile change (I thought you were a bot advertising for K-Mart).  Then I saw your custom title and was like "why the fuck did he change his account name?  Awww..... oh well! **approves**"
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Maedhros on August 29, 2011, 01:07:20 PM
I would get a Vita, If Sony would quit advertising weak-ass spin-off titles like they did with the PSP.
PSP is a great system, but its beyond sad that you have to discover all the greatness instead of guided toward it.
Because of a lot of things. The main ones were:
1- Their focus on PS3
2- Piracy too early drove off western developers
3- DS price and ease of development
4- Lack of proper PS3 controls for the console ports/spin-offs

Vita corrects a lot of these things. It's stupid to think Sony didn't learn with their errors on PSP/PS3.
Also, I don't think most of the spin-offs on the PSP are bad, seriously. And it's support in Japan is better than anything right now (Japan and indies are almost all what I care in consoles anyway).
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: KaZudra on August 29, 2011, 04:25:47 PM
Because of a lot of things. The main ones were:
1- Their focus on PS3
2- Piracy too early drove off western developers
3- DS price and ease of development
4- Lack of proper PS3 controls for the console ports/spin-offs

Vita corrects a lot of these things. It's stupid to think Sony didn't learn with their errors on PSP/PS3.
Also, I don't think most of the spin-offs on the PSP are bad, seriously. And it's support in Japan is better than anything right now (Japan and indies are almost all what I care in consoles anyway).

1. that's the only point, I just said that the PSP is Frikken awesome, Sony just Can't Sell it.
2. Piracy? This is the western gaming's bird flu, It doesn't affect anything, yet they are fucking pussies when someone says it.
3. this is true, but its not about PSP vs. DS, the DS may have more good games, but the PSP has the Juggernauts (like PSP2, FF type 0)
4. Sony shouldn't make Shitty spin-offs from the get go, that's why the PSP hurt in sales AND the Vita will too.

the Vita WILL fail if Sony is Keeping this Route, I dont wanna buy another PS3 just to play PS3 games, its a fucking waste. "oooh but its playing ps3 on handheld!!" yeah, that's true, but are you willing to spend $60 for the game on console and $40 for the vita version Knowing that the PS3 version will overall be the better experience?

Vita should have PS2 Support and have original Games, that's all there is needed to sell the Vita.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: spkywlnt73 on September 03, 2011, 06:25:10 AM
Man this sounds good! This could be the mother load! I don't know what this vita thing is, but I'll be checking in to it for sure. A remake of the first three cv's on the nes would be frigging awesome, Why don't they see this?
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Gambit Belmont on September 03, 2011, 12:45:47 PM
I'm not exactly sure what to make of this, but if The Complete Chronicles is supposed to be the Anniversary release, i'm somewhat curious... Hey, I just want a new Castlevania game that follows the main canon (IE not LoS).  Haven't had one since OoE, which was roughly 3 years ago.

Anyway, TCC doesn't look like it's gonna be a combination of the first 3 games.  Now what WOULD be extremely awesome, even though this is just nothing but a wet dream... would be for them to make TCC a game that wrapped the storylines of all the games chronologically into an ultimate "vania-fest". :p  Either that or just a complete chronicle of every single Belmont's storyline.  Like from Leon's establishment of Vampire Killer, all the way to Julius' epic 1999 climax. :p
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: affinity on September 03, 2011, 12:51:38 PM

Vita should have PS2 Support and have original Games, that's all there is needed to sell the Vita.

instead of that, they shouldn't bother making Vita and just patch PS3 to allow PS2 support, instead of dividing the community and developer projects in half again like has been the case with PSP   (DXC would have been so much better on PS3 instead of PSP.)

360 doesn't have portable and their library has been getting much better since all games are available from the same source.   

Not a new source you have to shell out $250 to play the new stuff on an inferior screen and controls.

Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: KaZudra on September 03, 2011, 01:07:27 PM
instead of that, they shouldn't bother making Vita and just patch PS3 to allow PS2 support, instead of dividing the community and developer projects in half again like has been the case with PSP   (DXC would have been so much better on PS3 instead of PSP.)

360 doesn't have portable and their library has been getting much better since all games are available from the same source.   

Not a new source you have to shell out $250 to play the new stuff on an inferior screen and controls.

Won't do that just yet since the PS2 is Dominating the Xbox 360 in Japan in sales.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Gambit Belmont on September 03, 2011, 01:41:47 PM
Won't do that just yet since the PS2 is Dominating the Xbox 360 in Japan in sales.

This makes me proud to own my PS2. <3
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Kale on September 03, 2011, 11:21:24 PM
Just wish they were better made, cuz...... both of mine have had my lasers die.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Deko21 on September 04, 2011, 09:21:44 PM
Won't do that just yet since the PS2 is Dominating the Xbox 360 in Japan in sales.
I'm surprised the PS2 is still alive after a couple years after its gen.
Still have mine, but only because my PS3 isn't backwards compatable.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Koutei on September 14, 2011, 12:12:54 AM
VITA
http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/110914a_e.pdf (http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/110914a_e.pdf)
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Chernabogue on September 14, 2011, 01:27:37 AM
I don't see TCC listed here. Does that mean we're DOOMED?
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Munchy on September 14, 2011, 01:33:14 AM
I don't get why Konami would put money into a retarded concept like Book of Memories, but not this, which would require much less work (make some emulators, slap games onto card, profit) and much less provocation of fans (well, Silent Hill fans anyway).
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: shelverton. on September 14, 2011, 03:42:28 AM
LULZ @ Square Enix remaking Final Fantasy X for Vita instead of FF VII.

Anyway, the MGS and ZoE HD Collections for Vita turned out to be true. Makes me wonder if Konami is indeed working on the Complete Chronicles for Vita after all, but they're keeping it a secret just to SHOCK us with a surprise announcement at the very last minute? If so, let's hope it's coming to PS3/360 as well.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Nagumo on September 14, 2011, 08:25:24 AM
It's funny how all the rumors end of being true, except the Castlevania bit.  >:(   
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: affinity on September 14, 2011, 09:37:21 AM
LULZ @ Square Enix remaking Final Fantasy X for Vita instead of FF VII.


FFX won't fit 'remake' standards, just sprinkled with High Definition and maybe trophies, which don't enhance the gameplay or presentation much.  (which isn't the same as updating the 3-D graphics to FFXIII standards, added content, extra cutscenes, and more like Resident Evil 1 remake and MGS remake.)

If anything, FFX on Vita should count more as a slightly updated "port" than labeling it as a "remake".

Well of course videos/screens of it has yet to be seen, but it will be no surprise if it turns out to be like Silent Hill Collection, which are basically the same exact thing as the originals with HD tagged over it.   

I think even SE is aware that FFVII "HD" isn't going to be accepted as a remake people demanded for years (especially after seeing that FFVII PS3 Tech Demo), so that's probably why they are trying it with FFX instead.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Maedhros on September 14, 2011, 11:50:28 AM
1. that's the only point, I just said that the PSP is Frikken awesome, Sony just Can't Sell it.
2. Piracy? This is the western gaming's bird flu, It doesn't affect anything, yet they are fucking pussies when someone says it.
3. this is true, but its not about PSP vs. DS, the DS may have more good games, but the PSP has the Juggernauts (like PSP2, FF type 0)
4. Sony shouldn't make Shitty spin-offs from the get go, that's why the PSP hurt in sales AND the Vita will too.

the Vita WILL fail if Sony is Keeping this Route, I dont wanna buy another PS3 just to play PS3 games, its a fucking waste. "oooh but its playing ps3 on handheld!!" yeah, that's true, but are you willing to spend $60 for the game on console and $40 for the vita version Knowing that the PS3 version will overall be the better experience?

Vita should have PS2 Support and have original Games, that's all there is needed to sell the Vita.
PSP didn't fail. That's all. I will not make this bigger than it needs.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: fledermavs on September 20, 2011, 11:05:48 AM
I failed to see on the papers listing the games that they were Vita exclusives. Still, it seems absurd for Konami to make a game such as TCC for a handheld that isn't even out yet. They have showed poor judgement (no pun intended) with DXC being ONLY for PSP. That was a slap in the face to 'Vania fans everywhere. Even with glasses, I have to squint to see the PSP screen properly, and The Vita looks to be a better version of PSP GO. Still, only the moderately well-off, or those who still live with their parents can adopt a new system right away these days. For Konami to put a game like TCC on the Vita ONLY just seems like another open-handed slap and financial suicide for Castlevania. So many of us will be left on the sidelines with this one. I hope Konami will put this on PS3 to let the wider range of gamers play.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: KaZudra on September 20, 2011, 02:22:47 PM
Sony pretty much has the rights to the chronicles games, the only real game they haven't brought over is.....

GREAT SCOTT!

Castlevania Complete Chronicles is Castlevania the Arcade for PSMove!

Proof: Chronicles are remakes of localized games, many people overlook that and assume that all games are subject to it.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on September 20, 2011, 03:03:01 PM
Wow, that's not even true.
What you are saying is not factual, but only coincidental, and conjecture at best.

And what you just said about Chronicles, that isn't proof at all!
Chronicles (PSX) is hardly a remake, and there was no localization done, as there was no text dialogue (and the original's file select screen was in English).
Rondo of Blood's DXC is indeed a remake... but it's not a remake of a localized game, as it's a remake of a japanese game.
In fact, both "Chronicle" games are remakes of non-USA-released titles, localized in their newer versions.
Title: Re: Castlevania : The Complete Choronicles ????
Post by: KaZudra on September 20, 2011, 03:26:55 PM
Wow, that's not even true.
What you are saying is not factual, but only coincidental, and conjecture at best.

And what you just said about Chronicles, that isn't proof at all!
Chronicles (PSX) is hardly a remake, and there was no localization done, as there was no text dialogue (and the original's file select screen was in English).
Rondo of Blood's DXC is indeed a remake... but it's not a remake of a localized game, as it's a remake of a japanese game.
In fact, both "Chronicle" games are remakes of non-USA-released titles, localized in their newer versions.

sorry, bloody spellcheck ommitted the UN part of unlocalized