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Title: The BATMAN Thread - We accept Bat-credit cards too!
Post by: Ahasverus on March 27, 2012, 04:17:31 PM
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The LoS topic was completely absorbed by batman discussion, it seems that our dear forums are filled with batfans and that's great! It's an espectacular character no doubt, being among the best in every class he's in

- Best games (Arkham series)
- Best Movies (Nolan series)
- Best comics (many to name)
- Best musical! (Can you believe it?)

So this is a place to discuss about our favorite hero, and of course, his villains.

Let the night begin!

To start the discussion, what do you think was the best plot to stop Batman has ever a villian had? I think the whole Knightfall was brilaint, Bane planned to make Batman get TIRED, a simple as it is, no one thought about it first.
Title: Re: The BATMAN Thread - We accept Bat-credit cards too!
Post by: crisis on March 27, 2012, 04:38:19 PM
Recently purchased the Play Arts KAI Batman figure, it's huge

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but HIGHLY detailed & articulated. I've had these metal Batarangs laying around for a couple years, purchased them in a set at my local flea market for about 20 bucks

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also acquired a couple of statues from the "Black & White" series. The detail on these are excellent. They only made 7000 of the Joker, good luck finding him for less than $100 nowadays

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also recently purchased part one of the 'Knightfall' comic series, where Bane makes his first appearance (and what DKR is partially based on)

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have yet to start reading it, though
Title: Re: The BATMAN Thread - We accept Bat-credit cards too!
Post by: A-Yty on March 27, 2012, 10:12:40 PM
What's with the sweet-smelling cosmetics?  :P

Edit: no, wait, I thought that champagne was perfume  :P
Title: Re: The BATMAN Thread - We accept Bat-credit cards too!
Post by: KaZudra on March 27, 2012, 10:16:03 PM
Batpagne behind the figure and Simply Bat, Scented oil
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Post by: A-Yty on March 27, 2012, 10:18:42 PM
Crisis offers the figures champagne and rubs some scented oil on them?  :-*
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Post by: JR on March 29, 2012, 04:09:02 AM

also recently purchased part one of the 'Knightfall' comic series, where Bane makes his first appearance (and what DKR is partially based on)

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have yet to start reading it, though

I think that one was one of my favorites. Parts 2 and 3 (and Prodigal) were okay I guess, but Part 1 was easily the best.

Has anyone read The Cult? That was another favorite of mine. I was kind of surprised with how dark it was for a Batman comic. And Jason Todd actually wasn't annoying in that one.
Title: Re: The BATMAN Thread - We accept Bat-credit cards too!
Post by: Super Waffle on March 29, 2012, 05:00:45 PM
Selina Kyle, you're fired (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNvA8XbOAWY#ws)
Title: Re: The BATMAN Thread - We accept Bat-credit cards too!
Post by: Abnormal Freak on March 29, 2012, 06:53:48 PM
Has anyone read The Cult? That was another favorite of mine. I was kind of surprised with how dark it was for a Batman comic. And Jason Todd actually wasn't annoying in that one.

Wasn't much a fan of that myself. Maybe I'm insane, but it felt like a poor man's Frank Miller to me—the Batmobile even underwent a ridiculous reconstruction in it.

One aspect I adore about The Cult is the art—and even more impressive than the line art is the coloring, which most people apparently abhor about the miniseries but I think it's wonderful. But yeah, the writing just isn't so hot, IMO...and it's by the same dude who wrote that piece of shit A Death in the Family. Only good thing to come out of that was Under the Red Hood—the animated movie more specifically, as the comic only struck me as OK.

I'm a Miller fanboy, so I adore all his stuff, including The Dark Knight Strikes Again. I'll admit All-Star Batman & Robin, the Boy Wonder had me scratching my head a bit, but it was still pretty cool and I eagerly anticipate the rest of it (if it ever gets made). You simply can't beat The Dark Knight Returns and Batman: Year One, IMO.

Although my favorite Batman story ever is Mask of the Phantasm. Fantastic movie, and the best origin for the character. Just wish the animation had been better, considering the TV show had some truly astounding episodes in terms of animation (mostly the ones directed by Kevin Altieri, the anime nut of the bunch; he knew the right direction and studios to pick).

I love Batman. Man, who doesn't?? I just wish Bill Finger and Bob Kane had continued on in the direction they originally set out with, where Batman killed criminals when necessary and all that. Then Robin was introduced and it all got pretty lame.
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Post by: Flame on March 29, 2012, 11:13:12 PM
Let's talk Batman in the DCAU.

Can we agree Old Bruce is best Bruce?

Also just how epic Batman Beyond was

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>>That moment when the choir backed version of the original Batman theme starts playing

chills down my spine. every time.
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Post by: Abnormal Freak on March 30, 2012, 01:29:18 AM
One of Beyond's most memorable moments for sure.

One of the best aspects of Kevin Conroy's acting in the original show is that he always used Bruce's "real" voice for Batman, while his "Bruce persona" had this really carefree, acted voice. They threw that out the window with The New Batman Adventures which was a real shame—and I still remember Bruce's pathetic attempt at going undercover, which was slapping a mustache on and shades. A long way away from the coolness of Matches Malone...
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Post by: Nail_Bombed on March 30, 2012, 01:56:01 AM
Not a mega-Batfanboy, but have certainly got my fair share of comics and the films... loved the Burton films (Schumacher.... not so much), and the Nolan series so far has been damn good. I am mostly a Vertigo reader (and a longtime Marvelite), but DC and Bats have always been cool. And the Elseworlds series of comics where Batman goes up against Dracula is awesome. Look for Batman Vs Dracula : Red Rain. Have got all three: Red Rain, Bloodstorm, and Crimson Mist. Also The Long Halloween is brilliant as is the Miller stuff and the Knightfall books.

Cover from Bloodstorm.

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EDIT: And here's a cover from Crimson mist, where Batman essentially BECOMES Dracula.

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Title: Re: The BATMAN Thread - We accept Bat-credit cards too!
Post by: JR on March 30, 2012, 03:31:38 AM
Wasn't much a fan of that myself. Maybe I'm insane, but it felt like a poor man's Frank Miller to me—the Batmobile even underwent a ridiculous reconstruction in it.



Yeah, I think the whole last part with the DKR-inspired Batmobile was my least favorite part of the story, since it did feel too ripped off. And the whole thing with
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Look for Batman Vs Dracula : Red Rain. Have got all three: Red Rain, Bloodstorm, and Crimson Mist.

I have the first two...still have to get around to buying Crimson Mist one of these days. I heard it's pretty crazy.
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Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on March 30, 2012, 05:36:38 AM
LOL I saw "DKR" and thought "Diddy Kong Racing" and not "Dark Knight Returns".
Particularly funny since it was a batmobile post.

Also, I love Batman: TAS and Batman: Beyond.  Great shows.
Title: Re: The BATMAN Thread - We accept Bat-credit cards too!
Post by: A-Yty on March 30, 2012, 05:46:24 AM
Let's discuss the subject of "what would be great about a Batman who kills"?
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Post by: Nail_Bombed on March 30, 2012, 07:24:41 AM
Let's discuss the subject of "what would be great about a Batman who kills"?

Not a lot really. He'd be basically a Punisher clone dressed up like a bat.

Think about it ... while the wealth isn't exactly there for Punisher/Frank Castle, they both have honed their bodies to near-perfection and not having to rely on any given superpowers (though Frank still needs to rely heavily on armor due to the amount of ammo being blasted at him), both have had their families wiped out by criminals, both rely on the fear of criminals for their work.... except Bats has more honor than Frank due to not murdering the scumbags/his opponents. And also, if Bats killed his way through Gotham's crime network, there wouldn't be much in the way of villains left - except himself.
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Post by: A-Yty on March 30, 2012, 07:28:44 AM
I forgot to mention: I'm against it.
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Post by: crisis on March 30, 2012, 10:47:12 AM
The Dark Knight Rises Trailer 2: IN LEGO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONebtUty3AI#ws)
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Post by: Nail_Bombed on March 30, 2012, 03:48:33 PM
The Dark Knight Rises Trailer 2: IN LEGO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONebtUty3AI#ws)

Whoever did that missed a trick at the end - should have read The Lego Ends.  ;D
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Post by: Ahasverus on April 22, 2012, 10:07:03 PM
Guys, new leaked PLAUSIBLE spoilers froma  call sheet. http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=58361 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=58361)
Nothing that a fan with some suspicious sense wouldn't get at first.

Question: Do you think Talia al Ghul is in TDKR? How do you think she will get portrayed? Will she be the batcruxh? or Selina? or Zombie Rachel? discuss!
Title: Re: The BATMAN Thread - We accept Bat-credit cards too!
Post by: JR on April 22, 2012, 10:29:53 PM
Not a lot really. He'd be basically a Punisher clone dressed up like a bat.

Think about it ... while the wealth isn't exactly there for Punisher/Frank Castle, they both have honed their bodies to near-perfection and not having to rely on any given superpowers (though Frank still needs to rely heavily on armor due to the amount of ammo being blasted at him), both have had their families wiped out by criminals, both rely on the fear of criminals for their work.... except Bats has more honor than Frank due to not murdering the scumbags/his opponents. And also, if Bats killed his way through Gotham's crime network, there wouldn't be much in the way of villains left - except himself.

I always thought of the two characters being closely related like that, too. Coincidentally, they're the only two comics I ever really read. Mostly, anyway.
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Post by: Nail_Bombed on April 23, 2012, 04:17:49 AM
Just wondering if anyone remembers Amalgam Comics - this would be a universe crossover between Marvel and DC back in the 90's...

Anyway, this is only one of the characters who came out of it - when two universes collided, out of the chaos was formed - Dark Claw. The patented badassery of Wolverine meets the calculation of Batman.

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Post by: Ahasverus on April 23, 2012, 07:12:19 AM
How the 2 most badass beings on earth became the one with the goofiest costume is beyond me
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Post by: Flame on April 27, 2012, 11:49:35 PM
Just wondering if anyone remembers Amalgam Comics - this would be a universe crossover between Marvel and DC back in the 90's...

Anyway, this is only one of the characters who came out of it - when two universes collided, out of the chaos was formed - Dark Claw. The patented badassery of Wolverine meets the calculation of Batman.

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That's.... Actually pretty frightening.
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Post by: crisis on May 01, 2012, 05:18:19 PM
The Dark Knight Rises - Official Trailer #3 [HD] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8evyE9TuYk#ws)
Title: Re: The BATMAN Thread - We accept Bat-credit cards too!
Post by: Ahasverus on May 01, 2012, 05:45:00 PM
The Dark Knight Rises - Official Trailer #3 [HD] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8evyE9TuYk#ws)
I came.
Loved the pic with Bat on the bridge. it looks sooo comic-y
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Post by: Nail_Bombed on May 01, 2012, 05:59:08 PM
Stoked for TDKR, for sure. With The Avengers being a total blast, and The Dark Knight Rises and The Amazing Spiderman coming out, it looks like a great summer for movie superheroics.
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Post by: Dominus Agony on May 02, 2012, 11:21:46 AM
Don't forget Men In Black 3  ;)

Although I don't think they count as super-heroes.
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Post by: Super Waffle on May 04, 2012, 12:48:12 AM
BATMANCEPTION (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrQqPrT9kco#ws)
Title: Re: The BATMAN Thread - We accept Bat-credit cards too!
Post by: Flame on June 22, 2012, 05:37:19 PM
I just wanted to say; its small details like this why I love the DCAU
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Post by: Johnny Alucard on June 23, 2012, 12:26:01 AM
I loved B:TAS, it was on a whole other level compared to the cartoons of that time and even now.

The Batman had some very very big shoes to fill, and while it certainly wasn't the second coming of B:TAS, it was fun in its own right, and the Batman Vs. Dracula movie was awesome, I highly recommend it. It's much darker in tone compared to the rest of the series.
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Post by: Ratty on June 23, 2012, 04:34:45 AM
Batman has been my favorite superhero since before I knew what a superhero was. I love the versatility and adaptability of the character. Adam West's Batman (possibly my favorite) is just as much Batman as Bale's. Whether you like the "Caped Crusader", the "Dark Knight" or somewhere inbetween, there's a Batman for everybody. Unfortunately I've not gotten to read as many of the comics as I'd like, the price of the comic collecting hobby being what it is.

I loved B:TAS, it was on a whole other level compared to the cartoons of that time and even now.

The Batman had some very very big shoes to fill, and while it certainly wasn't the second coming of B:TAS, it was fun in its own right, and the Batman Vs. Dracula movie was awesome, I highly recommend it. It's much darker in tone compared to the rest of the series.
What did you think of "The Brave and the Bold"? I haven't had tv in years but the episodes of that show I was able to catch were delightful and deliciously different from the more common darker Batmen we've gotten the last few decades. I haven't watched much of "The Batman" though I have the first 2 seasons and the movie you mentioned, just need some time to get used to the artstyle I guess. Batman:TAS was just one of those once-in-a-lifetime things. I was surprised to hear Bruce Timm and Eric Rodomski say they didn't like the later episodes as much as the first one in their commentary on it. I guess that shows how much of this art is collaboration beyond the original concept/creators.


Kinda iffy about TDKR. I dunno, the whole Nolan series has been propaganda-tinged* and that's never really bothered me. But the trailer for Rises just lays it on a little thick. The "rise" of the underclass leading to the end of the American dream symbolized by a collapsing football field, while Selina speaks in no uncertain terms for the poor against our 1%er hero. They might as well have just shown an exploding apple pie carved by a hammer and sickle while they were at it.

It still kinda irritates me that they had a British kid sing the American National Anthem (which is about a British attack on America in the war of 1812) though I know the movies are filmed overseas.

*Begins makes the strong implication that poverty is caused by outsiders (like Liam Neeson) sabotaging capitalist systems rather than as a natural byproduct of said systems. TDK is supportive of mass indiscriminate electronic surveillance "in wartime"/to catch the *really* badguys.
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Post by: Johnny Alucard on June 23, 2012, 12:09:26 PM
What did you think of "The Brave and the Bold"? I haven't had tv in years but the episodes of that show I was able to catch were delightful and deliciously different from the more common darker Batmen we've gotten the last few decades.

I loved the few episodes of TBatB I managed to catch. It was a near perfect blend of the old Adam West Batman with the newer more edgier Batman.  All the DC Universe cameos they had was absolutely fun.
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Post by: Flame on June 24, 2012, 12:06:54 AM
I particularly liked that one ep where Bruce finds Joe Chill. It was neat to have Kevin Conroy making a cameo voice role. That ep was particularly dark for BaTB and I liked it for it.
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Post by: crisis on June 25, 2012, 03:39:08 PM
brave & the bold has nothing on this

Legends Of The Dark Knight part 2/4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSVV0_AIIaA#)