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Title: Hamburger
Post by: Laina on June 30, 2017, 06:49:59 PM
Asking for a friend...named...Naina...yeah. She's dating a guy named...Duzo...yeah, that's the ticket...anyway, Duzo thinks you need to thaw it or it's a dumpster fire. Naina doesn't mind & if she needs dinner done in a pinch, it's a-okay.
Title: Re: Hamburger
Post by: Highwind Dragoon on June 30, 2017, 09:22:16 PM
http://www.stilltasty.com/articles/view/86 (http://www.stilltasty.com/articles/view/86)

You never know how much you can eat before it's too late.
Title: Re: Hamburger
Post by: Dracula9 on June 30, 2017, 10:36:15 PM
It's functionally safe to cook from frozen, for the most part. Damn near doubles your cooking time, though, and may not taste as good.
Title: Re: Hamburger
Post by: Jazz Paladin Productions on June 30, 2017, 11:02:58 PM
Depends...some of the patties I use have instructions to prepare from frozen, and I do them on my cast iron pan all the time.  And they end up being the best home made burgers I've had
Title: Re: Hamburger
Post by: Dracula9 on June 30, 2017, 11:24:48 PM
Oh, yes. Those kinds are specifically made to cook from frozen (and are bloody tasty). Cooking in cast iron often lends to better taste, too. Run-of-the-mill storebought ground beef/chuck, though, typically takes way longer to cook from frozen.
Title: Re: Hamburger
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on July 01, 2017, 01:59:26 AM
I suggest plan your dinner before hand and thaw the frozen meats in the refrigerator.

But if you really are in a hurry, throw it in the pan, start the fire, add some water, cover with a lid and let the steam do the work. Then when the the water is almost gone, release the lid and cook until the water is gone, let if fry either by its own juices (if it has more fat content) or add some cooking oil. Also works for sausages.

If I were her, I'd get the cook from frozen types.
Title: Re: Hamburger
Post by: Dracula9 on July 01, 2017, 06:04:12 AM
Hot-water thawing can actually be dangerous, as the outer layers of the meat can become exposed to temperatures and moisture levels suited for bacterial growth.

Freeze-searing with water steaming in the pan isn't as bad at this as thawing in a hot water bath, but the chance remains.

Cold water thawing is also much faster than refrigeration thawing, but requires actively maintaining specific water temperature. Six of one, half dozen of the other.
Title: Re: Hamburger
Post by: X on July 01, 2017, 09:20:22 AM
We always thaw out the meat before frying it up. And yes, cooking in cast iron gives the kind of flavor other pans cannot. Also try barbecuing burgers as well. Those're good too  :)
Title: Re: Hamburger
Post by: Dracula9 on July 01, 2017, 10:54:54 AM
And yes, cooking in cast iron gives the kind of flavor other pans cannot.

Heheh, we have an unhealthy amount of cast iron. We've gone and put all but two of our non-cast potware in the garage as a result.
Title: Re: Hamburger
Post by: theplottwist on July 01, 2017, 10:58:01 AM
My god, am I really learning how to properly cook an Hamburger?
Title: Re: Hamburger
Post by: Dracula9 on July 01, 2017, 11:00:52 AM
You would be wise not to underestimate the value of a well-made burger, my friend. For the burger is great and terrible, and is beholden with great power.
Title: Re: Hamburger
Post by: Briraka on July 01, 2017, 04:14:04 PM
usually i'm not concerned with taste, so i just plop that frozen fucker on there and let it sizzle.
Title: Re: Hamburger
Post by: Bloodreign on July 01, 2017, 10:28:27 PM
I thought it was a topic about the movie for a minute.

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Title: Re: Hamburger
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on July 01, 2017, 11:16:56 PM
Hot-water thawing can actually be dangerous, as the outer layers of the meat can become exposed to temperatures and moisture levels suited for bacterial growth.

Freeze-searing with water steaming in the pan isn't as bad at this as thawing in a hot water bath, but the chance remains.

Cold water thawing is also much faster than refrigeration thawing, but requires actively maintaining specific water temperature. Six of one, half dozen of the other.

Ooohhh never knew that. But then when I thaw things in hot water, I boil it.
Title: Re: Hamburger
Post by: X on July 02, 2017, 12:27:46 AM
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Heheh, we have an unhealthy amount of cast iron. We've gone and put all but two of our non-cast potware in the garage as a result.

Cast iron. Once you go black you never go back, lol. Another thing that's good about cooking in cast iron is sauteed mushrooms and potato chunks. And can't forget to add a nice thick dark gravy to the spuds. Mm-mmm good! Gawd dayum I'm a gettn' hungry now  :P
Title: Re: Hamburger
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on July 02, 2017, 09:14:47 AM
As other people said, if you don't mind it taking much longer to cook, you can go from frozen to pan (or grill).
If you have the time, however, thaw it in the fridge, unless you bought the 'cook from frozen' ones.

I buy ground beef and let it thaw and then make the patties so I don't think my advice would benefit those who use pre-made patties.
Title: Re: Hamburger
Post by: Dracula9 on July 02, 2017, 10:23:22 AM
I buy ground beef and let it thaw and then make the patties

Only way to do it.  :)
Title: Re: Hamburger
Post by: Abnormal Freak on July 02, 2017, 09:02:28 PM
Thaw that ish. If impatient or didn't plan ahead (e.g. thawing in the fridge overnight), use the meat thawing button on the microwave.
Title: Re: Hamburger
Post by: X on July 02, 2017, 09:46:52 PM
Defrost. Yeah we sometimes do that method. Gets pretty much the same result.
Title: Re: Hamburger
Post by: uzo on July 03, 2017, 10:03:58 PM
Dracula9 has it ON POINT for this thread.
Title: Re: Hamburger
Post by: Laina on July 04, 2017, 08:35:43 AM
Dracula9 has it ON POINT for this thread.

Cool. So have you already bought his plane ticket in order for him to come here & start making dinner for you? Or are you still working out the logistics of all that? Guess I should clean out the guest room .
Title: Re: Hamburger
Post by: uzo on July 04, 2017, 08:55:52 AM
We don't take in stray animals.
Title: Re: Hamburger
Post by: Dracula9 on July 04, 2017, 09:04:20 AM
We don't take in stray animals.
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Title: Re: Hamburger
Post by: Mooning Freddy on July 08, 2017, 06:00:21 AM
Hot-water thawing can actually be dangerous, as the outer layers of the meat can become exposed to temperatures and moisture levels suited for bacterial growth.

... Aaaaand then you fry/cook the meat and all the bacteria dies anyway, so why should you care? (unless you cook it improperly and then you're basically eating it raw. Don't do that. You can get tainted meat with a lot of bacteria from the start and not even be aware of it.)

Also, it takes a while for bacteria to grow. I think the Department of Agriculture just wants you to be extra careful.
Title: Re: Hamburger
Post by: Dracula9 on July 08, 2017, 11:27:41 AM
Keywords can be, Freddy.  ;)
Title: Re: Hamburger
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on July 09, 2017, 02:07:54 AM
... Aaaaand then you fry/cook the meat and all the bacteria dies anyway, so why should you care? (unless you cook it improperly and then you're basically eating it raw. Don't do that. You can get tainted meat with a lot of bacteria from the start and not even be aware of it.)

Also, it takes a while for bacteria to grow. I think the Department of Agriculture just wants you to be extra careful.

Amen! That's why I do when in a rush. hahaha.