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What doomday device is concidered the most dangerous.
« on: July 02, 2016, 10:25:19 AM »
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This is a rather philosophical thought I had for the past few days about the various doomsday devices ever devised in Science fiction. I'm not familiar with all Sci-Fi doomsday devices so I'll just stick to those I've seen. Granted this might not be all of them either, just the most infamous.

In Star Trek Voyager we have the species 8472 bio-ships:


Next we have the doomsday machine from the ST the original series:


Following, we now have V'Ger from ST the motion picture:


Now, for Star Wars: A New Hope we've got the Death Star:


From Return of the Jedi we also have Death Star II:


And finally, from The Force Awakens, we have Starkiller Base:


Now, after seeing all these puppies in action, which one is the most dangerous doomsday device? After mulling it over in my head the answer came to me--a lack of governing by intelligence (people). All doomsday devices are governed by beings. Wills to decide whether or not to destroy a terrestrial body. While V'ger doesn't have people governing it, it still has an intelligence, and a will to decide whether or not to render a world dead. All of the above seems to qualify for having governing minds behind them--except for one. Star Trek's The Doomsday Machine. It comes across to me as being the most dangerous planet killer device ever created because it does not have a governing intelligence (people) behind it. It is a fully automated weapon that has only one primary function: To destroy worlds and digest the derbies for fuel. It does not discriminate on what type of planet to destroy. If it's there, it's food--lifeless or otherwise. As long as there are planetary bodies to ingest the machine will function indefinitely. It is an out-of-control weapon right from the get-go.
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Re: What doomday device is concidered the most dangerous.
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2016, 01:11:13 PM »
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While I would agree with your conclusion from the devices listed, there was an even more dangerous entity (maybe not a "device" depending on how you define it) in the original Star Trek. The Space Amoeba seen in "The Immunity Syndrome" which, if allowed to reproduce, could quickly swallow the entire galaxy. http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Space_amoeba

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« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2016, 05:18:08 PM »
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I was going for man-made, but I guess that could work too  :)
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« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2016, 11:26:28 PM »
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We don't need any fancy tech from scifi flicks.
Humans have everything they need to kill the planet now.

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« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2016, 04:48:34 AM »
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Bruce Campbell's chin is the most dangerous doomsday device known to man, obviously.


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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2016, 07:38:43 AM »
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Bruce Campbell's chin is the most dangerous doomsday device known to man, obviously.
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« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2016, 12:09:48 PM »
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I've got your doomsday devices right here...

...see this?  *shakes left fist*  That's 6 months in the hospital...

...see this?  *shakes right fist*  That's certain death!

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« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2016, 02:05:50 PM »
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I've got your doomsday devices right here...

...see this?  *shakes left fist*  That's 6 months in the hospital...

...see this?  *shakes right fist*  That's certain death!
Fists as doomsday devices?

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« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2016, 06:30:05 PM »
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Obviously the most dangerous is the battle between Chuck Norris and Segata Sanshiro.

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« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2016, 11:27:29 PM »
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Bruce Campbell's chin is the most dangerous doomsday device known to man, obviously.

Are you sure it isn't his one-liners?

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« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2016, 11:42:23 PM »
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I'd probably say Hawk and Animal's.  :P

Okay, I've got nothing. I really liked the Spindly Torque in Wolfenstein the New Order, though. Not really a doomsday device, but it had a pretty awesome design.
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« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2016, 01:53:37 PM »
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« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2016, 12:34:29 AM »
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I had forgotten all about the Star Forge. KotoR was a good game to play, but the sequel was a bit of a disappointment. Although it doesn't say anything about wiping out planets, the infinite amount of ships it creates will do the job, but only after a prolonged bombardment. However that's no different then what the Imperial fleet of the Galactic Empire is capable of doing as well, or any other fleet in the galaxy. But I don't know if KotoR is considered Canon anymore, or if it ever was.
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« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2016, 02:16:22 PM »
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I had forgotten all about the Star Forge. KotoR was a good game to play, but the sequel was a bit of a disappointment. Although it doesn't say anything about wiping out planets, the infinite amount of ships it creates will do the job, but only after a prolonged bombardment. However that's no different then what the Imperial fleet of the Galactic Empire is capable of doing as well, or any other fleet in the galaxy. But I don't know if KotoR is considered Canon anymore, or if it ever was.

According to the new visual dictionary released by Disney to accompany The Force Awakens, at least the critical plot points of KOTOR remain canon in some form (it makes several thinly veiled references to events in the game and points out that Kylo Ren's mask is inspired by several Sith Lords, such as Revan).
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« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2016, 12:11:50 AM »
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I have an idea of what would be the ultimate doomsday device wich ironically it is also a life-creating device: Star Trek's 2 Genesis!
Standing here, I realize
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When our guard is down, I think we'll both agree
That violence breeds violence,
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