Topic: The naked chick that got sacrificed at the beginning of RoB

[Super Waffle]

You guys over analyze the stupidest things.

[zangetsu468]

@Waffle Was that a Bill Cosby show?

*Insert Meme of Bill Cosby reading "I'm just here to see if I raped anyone..."*

[Lumi Kløvstad]

You guys over analyze the stupidest things.

Over-analyzing is practically the lifeblood of this forum, Waffle-san.

[Super Waffle]

@Waffle Was that a Bill Cosby show?

*Insert Meme of Bill Cosby reading "I'm just here to see if I taped anyone..."*

Flibbidy flam pokeymans.

[zangetsu468]

Flibbidy flam pokeymans.

Edit: it was supposed to be "raped"
but he may have taped them like R. Kelly..

Pretty much every hilarious Cosby meme you will ever need:

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[Super Waffle]

Over-analyzing is practically the lifeblood of this forum, Waffle-san.

Yeah I know. I remember the time where I made a thread asking if the same COULD be said of all religions, and you guys thought I was serious.

[zangetsu468]

Yeah I know. I remember the time where I made a thread asking if the same COULD be said of all religions, and you guys thought I was serious.

Hahaha maybe it's the Cosby meme's but fuck me that IS funny   

[Lumi Kløvstad]

Yeah I know. I remember the time where I made a thread asking if the same COULD be said of all religions, and you guys thought I was serious.

It's even more so now, because it's a slow news cycle for Castlevania -- we've not got much new to discuss, so we're now like "heeeey that one thing in the corner of that one game was kind of interesting". I remember on the Chapel forums when Marto started musings on a stone gargoyle-chandelier thing in Stone King Golem's boss chamber in LoI during a similar slow news cycle.

This thread honestly reminds me a LOT of that.

[zangetsu468]

This Dungeon imo is the only thing currently keeping Castlevania [buried] alive.

[Lumi Kløvstad]

This Dungeon imo is the only thing currently keeping Castlevania [buried] alive.

Last stalwart bastion of defense for a venerable saga, RIGHT HERE.

Us.

Let's keep at it!

[The Puritan]

1. Dracula X Chronicles shows precisely the moment where Shaft got control over Richter's body. And it's WAY before Richter got to fight Dracula. It's before even he got to battle Shaft himself. Jump to 5:40 and watch from there:

https://youtu.be/mp6gNFnPXuA

Good find.  I never noticed Shaft in Carmilla's boss orb, of all places (then again, I only played DXC once and never touched it again after 100%ing). You'd think he'd save his possession plan for his own two boss fights.

[TheTextGuy]

1. Dracula X Chronicles shows precisely the moment where Shaft got control over Richter's body. And it's WAY before Richter got to fight Dracula. It's before even he got to battle Shaft himself. Jump to 5:40 and watch from there:

https://youtu.be/mp6gNFnPXuA

I thought that was Death who changed the orb to red, presumably to force you to challenge him.

[theplottwist]

I thought that was Death who changed the orb to red, presumably to force you to challenge him.

I thought that was Death who changed the orb to red, presumably to force you to challenge him.

It indeed could be Death. I'm playing the game again to see at which point am I allowed to unlock Stage 5'. If it is only after defeating Death, then I'll retract my statement.

EDIT: Yep, it is most likely Death, not Shaft. The black shadow keeps appearing until you defeat Death. Once Death is gone and you redo Stage 4', the shadow is gone.

And also, I think I found evidence actually supporting Zangetsu and Shaft really NOT having a body by the end of SotN:



This comes from the same retranslation I used on the previous post. So, Alucard is saying Shaft cast aside his own body. However his statement contradicts this:



THAT inside the orb is clearly Shaft's body. We can see that the Shaft outside the orb is transluscent while the one inside it is solid (and even becomes detailed when the transluscent one fuses with it). This infers that Shaft is actually projecting an image to talk to Alucard.

Welp, now I'm confused as fuck. His statement also implies that Shaft himself cast his body aside out of his own free will, and not by being defeated (which is what happens in Rondo).

[zangetsu468]

It indeed could be Death. I'm playing the game again to see at which point am I allowed to unlock Stage 5'. If it is only after defeating Death, then I'll retract my statement.

EDIT: Yep, it is most likely Death, not Shaft. The black shadow keeps appearing until you defeat Death. Once Death is gone and you redo Stage 4', the shadow is gone.

So Iga's timeline stands regardless then eh.

[theplottwist]

So Iga's timeline stands regardless then eh.

Not so fast. There is still evidence for Shaft not having been killed in Rondo. That being Death and not Shaft is actually one of TWO points I made. And I actually covered the second point (check the edit on my previous comment) which got me quite confused.

You mention this "IGA timeline". Is this the timeline you mean?

http://www.vgmuseum.com/mrp/cv-por/packaging/timeline-side2.jpg

Because, if it is, it is not correct in some regards, and is not the most recent. By the time IGA released Potrait, it was already known (and even mentioned by the man himself) that Circle and CV64 were not canon. And this is not the only info wrong in this timeline. I don't think this timeline was issued with IGA's final revision/approval of it - this could be the job of the localization team alone, and we know what happens when they get their grubby hands on these timelines.

Now, I'm not saying the ENTIRE timeline is worthless due to this specific bit of info. Much on the contrary, I think there certainly are very interesting bits of information there that do correspond with what we know of the franchise (even some of the most obscure bits of info such as the existence of a sixth Dracula Remain in Simon's Quest). What I'm saying is that it certainly looks a bit sketchy considering the presence of non-canon info and incorrect minor info in there, and that there is a more recent timeline.

In this most recent timeline (2007), it says that "Shaft had NOT perished" on the entry for SotN. Sure, by "not perishing" they could mean in a more general sense (he was killed, but not defeated), but there is no mention of Shaft "being a spirit" or "returning as a spirit" or any mention of his orbs, and it's weird to say he "hasn't perished" when he looks quite perished there on the floor after taking a beating from Richter - meaning that, perhaps, indeed he hasn't been killed:

http://www.konami.jp/gs/game/dracula/product/data.html