If we're going to complain about continuity then we have to note that Konami fucked things up with the whole history of the series, and matching it to Bram Stoker's book, and that doesn't even address how their depiction of Dracula, especially before his own birth, fucks up the actual timeline as well. So...
When I got mad at Lord of Shadows it wasn't because of the change to continuity. It was because those games sucked.
If we're going to complain about continuity then we have to note that Konami fucked things up with the whole history of the series, and matching it to Bram Stoker's book, and that doesn't even address how their depiction of Dracula, especially before his own birth, fucks up the actual timeline as well. So...
Maybe we should stop giving a shit about continuity and just enjoy shit for what it is.
When I got mad at Lord of Shadows it wasn't because of the change to continuity. It was because those games sucked.
Nocturne strays significantly/completely from the source material, but I also don't think the original post is a very nuanced take.You making a game eh, I'm interested Do you have a footage?
I myself am doing something similar with the Treasury level and the Dragon boss in my own game. The lessons learned from the wealth hoarding dragon can be seen as far back as ancient literature, and we are living in a time where this particular legend feels more relatable than ever. Nocturne strays far from the source material, but its also fun to see these characters in a setting that mirrors our own reality.
If we're going to complain about continuity then we have to note that Konami fucked things up with the whole history of the series, and matching it to Bram Stoker's book, and that doesn't even address how their depiction of Dracula, especially before his own birth, fucks up the actual timeline as well. So...
Maybe we should stop giving a shit about continuity and just enjoy shit for what it is.
When I got mad at Lord of Shadows it wasn't because of the change to continuity. It was because those games sucked.
What's going on with this NetFLIX series is the same thing that's been going on with a lot of other shows and movies the past ten years or so; pandering to a very specific demograph of people who don't even make up the majority but like to think they are. And who expect us to like what they serve for dinner. And of course if we don't like it we fall under numerous accusations (omitted). But the sad truth is, whatever they touch they either ruin or destroy. Maria isn't someone who's gonna mistreat nor misogynise Richter as she idolizes him. She sees him as her most beloved older brother and thus helps him rescue her beloved sister and the others. Tera had no powers and her role in Rondo was very clear; a Nun of the local church. She doesn't need powers to help Richter as she helps in her own established way (through a prayer and goodluck charm). And as for Anette herself; it's blackwashing an already established character and giving her powers too. That pretty much destroys any chance of telling the future Rondo story as we know it due to the drastic changes of these well-established characters. Then of course we have this;Facts of the matter.
Every LGBTQ+ character in the Netflix Castlevania universe
Alucard (bisexual, OG series)
Striga (lesbian, OG series)
Morana (lesbian, OG series)
Taka (gay or bisexual man, OG series)
Olrox (gay man, Nocturne)
Edouard (gay or bisexual man, Nocturne)
Mizrak (gay or bisexual man, Nocturne)
None of this is even remotely consequential to CV or the CV story. It's just forced (heavy-handed) and serves no real purpose except to pander to the aforementioned "specific demograph". If said story isn't about the above it shouldn't even be a footnote.
What's going on with this NetFLIX series is the same thing that's been going on with a lot of other shows and movies the past ten years or so; pandering to a very specific demograph of people who don't even make up the majority but like to think they are. And who expect us to like what they serve for dinner. And of course if we don't like it we fall under numerous accusations (omitted). But the sad truth is, whatever they touch they either ruin or destroy. Maria isn't someone who's gonna mistreat nor misogynise Richter as she idolizes him.
Every LGBTQ+ character in the Netflix Castlevania universe
Alucard (bisexual, OG series)
Striga (lesbian, OG series)
Morana (lesbian, OG series)
Taka (gay or bisexual man, OG series)
Olrox (gay man, Nocturne)
Edouard (gay or bisexual man, Nocturne)
Mizrak (gay or bisexual man, Nocturne)
None of this is even remotely consequential to CV or the CV story. It's just forced (heavy-handed) and serves no real purpose except to pander to the aforementioned "specific demograph". If said story isn't about the above it shouldn't even be a footnote.
Vampires have always been strongly tied to sexuality.
Gay people have always existed and always will exist.
Creators are rightfully choosing to be more inclusive with their works.
Yep, you get a bunch or nerd fans together and all they do is complain. "Oh no, the changed something." "Oh no, there's gays in my story." Nice to see it's not different here.
Again, true. However they aren't gay as that term is incorrect. They're homosexuals. The word 'Gay' means 'Happy'. It is a stolen word going back to the 1950's and has since been misused to label someone(s) gender preference. Lesbian is also a stolen word and doesn't reflect gender preference. Instead it refers to those who come from the island of Lesbos, Greece. Anyone can learn about this if they bothered to study. But sadly most in this day and age don't.
Carmilla: A story about a lesbian vampire that predates Dracula. Portrayed in the Castlevania games.
Interview with the Vampire: Homoerotic story about two male vampires. Alucard from SotN visual design is directly inspired by the film.
Dracula: Many people interpret the scenes of Dracula preying on Harker (or film equivalent) as having a homoerotic aspect.
Vampires have always been strongly tied to sexuality.
Gay people have always existed and always will exist.
Creators are rightfully choosing to be more inclusive with their works.
Deal with it.
I'm glad we've been able to vent about this without killing/condemning each other for a change.
Compared to previous experiences, it's refreshing. Thanks, y'all.
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For my two cents, get off your high headless horses; here's the truth.
Castlevania's stories have always, always, always, alwaysalwaysalways been more about atmosphere than narrative. "Hammer Horror Pastiche" is that atmosphere, aka Gothic Horror, that line between man and monster, "children of the night, what beautiful music they make" (meanwhile Renfield is like wtf I was just here to sell you Carfax Abbey you weirdo).
That's not a story, and you can't do that stuff in an ongoing serialized tv show. You couldn't even carry a 500 word essay with it unless you are seriously good at b.s.'ing.
I really don't mind if they had to make changes to the characters as established in the games, because trying to make a story out of one or more dudes/dudettes going into a castle and just murdering anything that moves wouldn't be possible. If Castlevania's story had to be made "about something," then stealing men (and women)'s souls and making them your slaves (and perhaps the same could be said of all religions) isn't a bad way to go, thematically.
You just don't like women and you don't like your preciously fragile comfort level with your masculinity being challenged. Get over it.
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Wait, weren’t you already mocking the difference of opinions in this thread already?
This is why they chose the all-inclusive setting of TRANSylvania…. ⛳️ 👏🏽
Portrait of Ruin and Order of Ecclesia are good games, goddammit! I WILL die on this hill!Crazy that Castlevania stopped being good in like, 2005.
Do people doubt the greatness of POR and OOE? Those are top-tier gameage.
DOS has some really good graphics and atmosphere but I find the level layouts mostly pretty boring. AOS is my favorite post-SOTN Metroidvania and I feel like Dawn took several steps backward and is the weakest of the DS trilogy.
DoS Julius Mode is probably the best alt mode in any of the IGAvania games. It's the most complete, with its own story and alternate final boss. It's what all the other alt modes should have been.
The series' polarizing nature is old hat; this is merely the first time the melting pot of oldtime and newtime fans have to contend with such a complicated nature in the Netflix adaption.
It's quite the different animal compared to, say, the early-2000s news the latest game will be yet another MapQuest starring Micheal Jackson.
Or ye olde Simon VS Richter debate of opinions/personal preference.
Netflixvania's kinda ruff. (Courtesy redrum)Nailed it.
happy 2222 posts at the castlevania dungeon forums :P
after all the years of memories i have of this place,
i don't remember any of them
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happy 2222 posts at the castlevania dungeon forums :P& what a moment.
after all the years of memories i have of this place,
i don't remember any of them
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Though, I have to say that I disagree with you calling the original PSX SotN script bad. I really like it (definitely more than the redub), but to each their own I guess.I think over the years, in light of more information on the original Japanese scripts for a lot of PS1 era games like Panzer Dragoon being butchered in localization, I just found that Blaustein's work in general has aged incredibly poorly. But that's neither here nor there. I will invite you to look into how he kinda recklessly messed around with things in his scripts, esp. in things like Metal Gear Solid.