Topic: USA and allies prepare an attack on Syria

[X]

Russian blood flow in my veins, so if thats truth I'll feel seriously ashamed.

I've got Russian blood in me too, however this has nothing to do with the current government or how they're handling things.

[TheouAegis]

Can blame Soviet-American conflicts for the Korean and Vietnam Wars too. US was quirky back then, allying with Commies but then going to war with them almost immediately. Russia allied with the US, deceived Japan which culminated in the atomic bombs, which forced the Soviets to back off when the US allied with China and when the US invaded the southern Korean peninsula, which led to Chinese Communist influence spreading across Asia, which led to a Sino-Russo alliance, which led to Sino-American conflicts, which led to the Vietnam and Korean wars and that wonderful era of American peace-time known as the Red Scare.

Front Mission's writers believed 20 years or so from now Russia and the US will still be at war, Japan and other parts of the Pacific will break away from the US, Europe will suffer economic upheaval, and Africa will still be festering in multiple civil wars. Except for the OCU, the rest of their prophecies still seem plausible.


I have US blood in my veins. I'm American!

[Jorge D. Fuentes]

I love everything about that picture except the gun.
I have my own gun. >.>
Giggity.

[TheouAegis]

OMG, I saw a couple female customers today that made my gun happy to be Made In USA.

[Mooning Freddy]

Well, now Obama is talking about considering Putin's offer to turn over Syrian weaponry to international control. It seems as though Syria may be willing to accept such a resolution.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/09/obama-putin-syria-chemical-weapons_n_3896333.html

Give Obama a second Nobel prize. He and Putin may have found a peaceful resolution to the crisis! The war is over! Hip hip hooray!

...Oh wait.

I forgot that it's still about chemical weapons and not ending the war. Assad is still in power, the civil war is still raging with no end in sight, and that the endless flow of  refugees running away in fear of death continues. 

[Lelygax]

It seens that Obama is watching us, since they tried to do what we said here lol

[Flame]

Well, now Obama is talking about considering Putin's offer to turn over Syrian weaponry to international control. It seems as though Syria may be willing to accept such a resolution.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/09/obama-putin-syria-chemical-weapons_n_3896333.html

good.

Give Obama a second Nobel prize. He and Putin may have found a peaceful resolution to the crisis! The war is over! Hip hip hooray!

he still has to live up to the first one. I voted him and support him, but even I can see that he only got it as a spur of the moment thing. because he wanted to do all this peace stuff.

...Oh wait.

I forgot that it's still about chemical weapons and not ending the war. Assad is still in power, the civil war is still raging with no end in sight, and that the endless flow of  refugees running away in fear of death continues. 

Too bad. Not our problem. They are not our allies or our friends, and there is a heavy radical Muslim element present. There is no rebel "group". just dissidents. Not everyone in Syria is after Assad's removal. Especially many Christians and other groups which usually fall under Islamic radicals rifle scopes. Why? because when he falls, chaos will ensue, and an Islamic givernment will take hold. Because it is the Muslim Brotherhood which has been behind the entire Arab Spring. To try and take down 'dictators" and replace them with "democratic" governments, who in the end, turn out to be muslim radicals bent on remaking the country as an islamic state.

Look at Egypt. Look at what almost happened. Morsi, (elected not on any kind of vote, but rather a lack thereof) filled the government with islamists and tried to remake the constitution to fit Islamic views. The majority of the country was having none of that however, and managed to get the Military to kick him out as well.

[Mooning Freddy]

Because it is the Muslim Brotherhood which has been behind the entire Arab Spring.

See? This is not true, or inaccurate at best. The masses who demanded the removal of Morsi yelled about how the Muslim Brotherhood stole their revolution, which they did, just like the Communists in Russia and the Ayatollahs in Iran. The masses did not want a Muslim state, they wanted more justice and equality, which is a right for all.

As for Syria, it's a whole different story. Hafez al-Assad's (Bashar's father) takeover of Syria and transformation of it into an Alawite state was, according to how one writer described it, as unlikely as "a Jew becoming the Russian tzar". The Alawites were a religious minority despised and persecuted by must Suns and not even considered Muslim by some. Egypt was just an ultra-corrupt authoritarian state. Syria is an authoritarian state ruled by a religious minority which most most Suns, especially fundamentalists, consider infidels. The Suns who compose the majority of Syria's population were just waiting for an opportunity to rise against the al-Assads, and the "Arab Spring" brought the opportunity.
Have no doubt that Assad would use any means necessary to stay in power. It's not only his own fate, it's the fate of all Syria's Alawites that depends on it.  If at the beginning the rebels were just a minority in a small number of cities, the more the war drags on, the more the government's fate is sealed. The rebels would never forgive the ruler who massacres them, and the refugees would support them.

Syria would definitely be driven to chaos if Assad falls; The Alawites could be massacred. This is where foreign humanitarian intervention would be necessary. Iran could step in to defend the regime, but the Ayatollah regime's days are limited too.

You people go out and say that USA's intervention brought Iraq to chaos; No, it was the fall of Saddam that brought Iraq to chaos. Saddam needed to go down eventually, and it was only a matter of time. The chaos is all the fault of authoritarian rulers and religious organizations who shove religious propaganda and hatred in their people's throats. Eventually people would understand warfare and hatred are stupid, but it would take time.

It's all history the way I see it. The middle East could become democratic; At least more democratic than it is today. But before it does it would probably undergo massive bloodshed like Europe had.

[TheouAegis]