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The Castlevania Dungeon Forums => General Castlevania Discussion => Topic started by: 13th Street on November 19, 2014, 11:01:49 AM
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How did Morris and Lecarde manage to sneak into all those European countries - undetected - during WW1?
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Probably not undetected.... But who would want to try to stop a somersaulting spaniard with green hair and a spear that is on fire...
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They used up all their Stopwatches to sneak by unseen. That's why Bloodlines doesn't have the Stopwatch as a subweapon.
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I've always wondered how huge monsters and shit got undetected during WW1.
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They used up all their Stopwatches to sneak by unseen. That's why Bloodlines doesn't have the Stopwatch as a subweapon.
What about the daggers?
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I'm not very familiar with WW1 history but I think there were some areas that can be traversed without detection.
Plus they have magic stuff.
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I just always wondered how they avoided the draft ;D
But eh, have magic will travel I guess. With the war going on I imagine it wouldn't be impossible for two determined and resourceful men to slip in and out undetected when they needed to.
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John Morris could easily avoid entering the war since America was neutral during that time...until the SS Lusitania was torpedoed that is. Spain was also neutral throughout the war so Eric would not need to worry about being drafted either.
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If they were affiliated with the Church, as the Belmonts were, then they would have special clearance most likely.
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Also we need to account all these monsters, if a someone appears trying to destroy them it would be a good thing right? Even more in a war.
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They were inside paintings, not the actual places
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That's Jonathan and Charlotte, not John and Eric.
Then again, that does bring up a question: how'd Jonathan not get drafted?
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Drafted?
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Then again, that does bring up a question: how'd Jonathan not get drafted?
That I'm wondering about myself. America--like before in WW 1--did not enter the war right away. It took the Japanese attack at Pearl Harbor to really light the match under them (at least I think that's the case). And since PoR takes place three years after the fact then Jonathan should have already been drafted into service. But I'm unclear if entering military service was mandatory during WW 2. I know it was such during Vietnam.
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Jonathan was 18 when PoR happened so, 3 years before makes him 15. That makes him too young to be drafted.
Besides, he can always stay hidden and off the radar.
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I didn't remember but Jonathan and Charlotte were SO young when they went into Drac's castle.
John must have trained Jonathan when he was super young if he died quite some time ago (before Eric died at least). He must have been like 12! xD
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Chances are all the members of the Belmont family were reared early on in their lives to combat evil. This would make them exceptional warriors compared to others (putting their mystical bloodline aside).
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I dont think that all members are trained, I think that only the chosen are.
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I dont think that all members are trained, I think that only the chosen are.
I don't think that's the case. If it were then what would happen to humanity when the hero is killed and there is no other trained Belmont members? It would spell certain doom. Although only a small few have ever combated evil I do feel that all members of the family receive some equivalent amount of training just in case. For instance; both the Lecarde and Morris family are of Belmont decent however they are not of the main family line. Yet they have training just in case they are called upon by destiny to confront evil. If something happens to the main family line then there must be a back-up contingency to thwart the evil.
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But Jonathan said he was trained by his father, so...
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I don't think that's the case. If it were then what would happen to humanity when the hero is killed and there is no other trained Belmont members? It would spell certain doom.
Ask Richter, he is a living proof that no other Belmont was there when needed, only Maria is shown searching him. :P
Although only a small few have ever combated evil I do feel that all members of the family receive some equivalent amount of training just in case.
I agree that maybe they are trained in a very basic manner, but that training being more intellectual than for combat. It would be the most foolish thing to train all Belmonts if they are not chosen carefully, since some of them could become evil, imagine a lot of Belmonts with grudge for not becoming the whip user being controlled by Dracula.
For instance; both the Lecarde and Morris family are of Belmont decent however they are not of the main family line. Yet they have training just in case they are called upon by destiny to confront evil. If something happens to the main family line then there must be a back-up contingency to thwart the evil.
Morris being descendants from Belmonts is right, but I've never heard about Lecarde being too.
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Morris being descendants from Belmonts is right, but I've never heard about Lecarde being too.
This was one of IGA's changes so you can ask him for details.
Ask Richter, he is a living proof that no other Belmont was there when needed, only Maria is shown searching him. :P
Maria is blood-related to the Belmonts so she would fit in the classification of back-up contingency.
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This was one of IGA's changes so you can ask him for details.
Oh so thats it then xD
Maria is blood-related to the Belmonts
Never heard that too. Also its funny that Alucard didnt mention anything about Maria's scent being of a Belmont.
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Also its funny that Alucard didnt mention anything about Maria's scent being of a Belmont.
Maybe cuz he prefers the scent of male Belmonts...
Yikes, I'm out.... :P
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Morris being descendants from Belmonts is right, but I've never heard about Lecarde being too.
Judgment manual page 22 (http://www.vgmuseum.com/mrp/cv-judgment/manual-judgment.htm)
Maria is blood-related to the Belmonts
Dracula X Chronicles manual page 4 (http://www.vgmuseum.com/mrp/cv-rob/manual-tdxc.htm)
About Maria, reference was already made by original RoB.
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Thanks Koutei, you've been helping me a lot lately :P
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Maybe cuz he prefers the scent of male Belmonts...
Yikes, I'm out.... :P
LOL! Nice one Shiroi Koumori. Such a dirty girl :-X
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LOL! Nice one Shiroi Koumori. Such a dirty girl :-X
Hehehe. The opportunity to write it just came and I can't help it. I just can't.... ;D
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Maybe cuz he prefers the scent of male Belmonts...
Yikes, I'm out.... :P
What do you mean maybe? ;D
Judgment manual page 22 (http://www.vgmuseum.com/mrp/cv-judgment/manual-judgment.htm)
Dracula X Chronicles manual page 4 (http://www.vgmuseum.com/mrp/cv-rob/manual-tdxc.htm)
About Maria, reference was already made by original RoB.
But Judgement isn't canon to the main timeline though, at least not last I heard. IGA might have said they were related but I don't think Judgement can be counted on for such things since so many other elements were altered for it.
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Drafted?
Forced into military service. Pretty common during major wars. Looks like it's already been explained how/why both generations avoided it though.
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But Judgement isn't canon to the main timeline though, at least not last I heard. IGA might have said they were related but I don't think Judgement can be counted on for such things since so many other elements were altered for it.
And you'd be right. Judgment in not cannon, it simply is it's own odd-ball entry into the series. However I do believe that even before Judgment was made IGA had already decided that Eric was of Belmont decent. There would have to be some sort of connection to the family since Alucard made a magical spear for him to wield. Why Eric Lecarde and not someone else? And I always believed that while John Morris was battling Dracula, Eric was avenging his fallen love by taking on Bartly at that same time (story-wise mind you). In my mind, Belmont or not, he doesn't fight Dracula, even though it happens in-game.
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What do you mean maybe? ;D
Hehehehe. Cuz it is not just exclusive to the male Belmonts, right? wink wink ~♥
I'm still shipping him with Lyudmil.
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I'm pretty sure elements from Judgment are supposed to be canon.
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Forced into military service. Pretty common during major wars. Looks like it's already been explained how/why both generations avoided it though.
Thanks, I've searched some time for it and had found something, but even so thanks.
I'm pretty sure elements from Judgment are supposed to be canon.
It is a cat box Nagumo, we can't prove that it is or isn't canon. It connects very well with another games, but also shows some characters acting weird like "Maria's quest for bigger boobs".
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That and Grant looking like a mummy and having feelings for Sypha which was NOT in the original CV III story at all.
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Judgement's events may not be canon, but the characterizations are meant to be sourced by the canon. You can definitely use this as insight to their character. I think this mostly lines up, with the exception of Maria's perhaps. I think Maria's was pretty much a sell out tossin.
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I think that's kind of an odd reasoning. Since the game without any ambiguity is supposed to tie into the timeline that IGA created, featuring the same characters and referencing storylines that are related to that continuity, why would Judgment specifically has to proof its canonity? The other way around makes more sense in this case. Characters acting out of character is subjective. I think they were trying to make Maria be cute again like she was in Rondo but failed horribly.
That and Grant looking like a mummy and having feelings for Sypha which was NOT in the original CV III story at all.
I don't neccesairly approve of some of the writing, but all these things came from the guy who was in charge of the canon, so I don't think it matters none of it was ever in the original games.