Castlevania Dungeon Forums

The Castlevania Dungeon Forums => General Castlevania Discussion => Topic started by: theplottwist on March 23, 2018, 10:29:31 AM

Title: Order of Ecclesia: BradyGames Guide
Post by: theplottwist on March 23, 2018, 10:29:31 AM
Hello!

I come to ask for info on this guide that I am unable to locate. I know of some people that come here that have this guide, but God knows when they will check their inboxes, much less respond. So I'd rather ask publicitly.

What I need to know, from this guide, is the age of the characters in Castlevania: Judgment. From what I know, this guide has a special section containing this information right at the end, so that would be really useful to me. Funnily enough, this is one bit of info that is not on the manuals for this game.

I'd prefer if this information could be photographed and posted instead of just a transcription, because it is needed to be used as trusthworthy source. But a transcription would also do it for me just fine (though I'd not be exactly able to quote this transcription).

Thank you, Dungeon bois!
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia: BradyGames Guide
Post by: Nagumo on March 23, 2018, 11:26:11 AM
Here you go. (click for better quality)

(https://preview.ibb.co/hEpA9n/Order_of_Ecclesia_Brady_Games_Guide.png) (https://ibb.co/cqkiUn)
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia: BradyGames Guide
Post by: theplottwist on March 23, 2018, 11:35:48 AM
THANK YOU but.... The only character I needed isn't there: Sypha.

But still THANK YOU, as the rest is also really important to me <3
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia: BradyGames Guide
Post by: Guy Belmont on March 24, 2018, 11:53:54 AM
Um is there any other stuff you need cos I have scans of other  CV  BradyGames  Guides
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia: BradyGames Guide
Post by: theplottwist on March 24, 2018, 04:39:40 PM
Um is there any other stuff you need cos I have scans of other  CV  BradyGames  Guides

Not at the moment, man. But I would be interested in knowing what other guides you have!
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia: BradyGames Guide
Post by: Guy Belmont on March 25, 2018, 03:04:03 PM
The ones I own are   

lament of innocence, curse of darkness, portrait of ruin, Order of Ecclesia, Vampire Killer. (MD)

The ones I have scans of are
portrait of ruin, curse of darkness, Judgment, Order of Ecclesia.

So nothing to fancy. ;D

I plough all my cash in to making replicas of the Vampire Killer whip.

But Thank you for asking.
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia: BradyGames Guide
Post by: Nagumo on March 25, 2018, 03:42:01 PM
The ones I own are   

lament of innocence, curse of darkness, portrait of ruin, Order of Ecclesia, Vampire Killer. (MD)

The ones I have scans of are
portrait of ruin, curse of darkness, Judgment, Order of Ecclesia.

Are those English or Japanese guides?
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia: BradyGames Guide
Post by: Guy Belmont on March 25, 2018, 04:01:23 PM
All in  English.
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia: BradyGames Guide
Post by: Aceearly1993 on March 25, 2018, 06:37:51 PM
I own the PDF files of Dawn of Sorrow, Portrait of Ruin and Order of Ecclesia Brandy Games guide
Also own the physical book of Castlevania Chronicles PS1 Japanese guide, Japanese guide from Circle of the Moon to Portrait of Ruin, they all have something shiny compared to other plain online databases
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia: BradyGames Guide
Post by: Nagumo on March 26, 2018, 01:43:06 AM
I
I own the PDF files of Dawn of Sorrow, Portrait of Ruin and Order of Ecclesia Brandy Games guide
Also own the physical book of Castlevania Chronicles PS1 Japanese guide, Japanese guide from Circle of the Moon to Portrait of Ruin, they all have something shiny compared to other plain online databases

I would be interested in scans from some specific pages from the Japanese guides for HoD and CoD. Would you perhaps be willing to make a couple of scans? (Of course, I understand if you don't want to ruin your books).

All in  English.

Regarding the Bloodlines guide, there's a very rare one called: "Castlevania Bloodlines Official Game Secrets". Is that the name of the one that you own?
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia: BradyGames Guide
Post by: Aceearly1993 on March 26, 2018, 02:44:04 AM
I
I would be interested in scans from some specific pages from the Japanese guides for HoD and CoD. Would you perhaps be willing to make a couple of scans? (Of course, I understand if you don't want to ruin your books).


Well, I don't want to break the collectibles as any collectors but I can still take a photo of notes on specific pages of the books I have if any request comes.
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia: BradyGames Guide
Post by: Nagumo on March 26, 2018, 07:09:09 AM
Photos would be great! I can't give exact page numbers so I'll try to describe my request as clearly as possible.If possible, I would like to request:

(HoD)

* Any pages that cover the cutscene with evil Maxim in the Chapel and the subsequent boss fight with "Shadow" .
*Any pages that cover the boss fights with Maxim in both castles and the cutscenes that directly precede and ensue from those boss fights.

(CoD)

*Any pages that cover the cutscene that follows after the boss fight with Trevor (in the Abandoned Castle) and Dullahan
*The introduction page to the Infinite Corridor area.
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia: BradyGames Guide
Post by: theplottwist on March 26, 2018, 08:20:38 AM
I would be interested in scans from some specific pages from the Japanese guides for HoD and CoD. Would you perhaps be willing to make a couple of scans? (Of course, I understand if you don't want to ruin your books).

Photos would be great! I can't give exact page numbers so I'll try to describe my request as clearly as possible.If possible, I would like to request:

(HoD)

* Any pages that cover the cutscene with evil Maxim in the Chapel and the subsequent boss fight with "Shadow" .
*Any pages that cover the boss fights with Maxim in both castles and the cutscenes that directly precede and ensue from those boss fights.

(CoD)

*Any pages that cover the cutscene that follows after the boss fight with Trevor (in the Abandoned Castle) and Dullahan
*The introduction page to the Infinite Corridor area.

I second this sentiment, and I would be happy with photos of these exact scenes myself too. I would only add that I'd like photos of the introduction pages to the Abandoned Castle, Aiolon Ruins and Dracula's Castle too.
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia: BradyGames Guide
Post by: aensland on March 26, 2018, 05:02:47 PM
I can still take a photo of notes on specific pages of the books I have if any request comes.
I'll trade good quality photos of Lecarde Chronicles 2 manual book if you can help my boy Plot
Sorry they can't be scans, the booklet feels so fragile that it scares me to scan it
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia: BradyGames Guide
Post by: Aceearly1993 on March 26, 2018, 06:22:32 PM
(click to show/hide)


Sorry bros I confused with other guides I have, I didn't  get Guides of LoI and CoD
(https://i.imgur.com/sCgYhd4.jpg)
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia: BradyGames Guide
Post by: theplottwist on March 26, 2018, 06:35:22 PM
Awwww yiss that's awesome, dude! Thank you!
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia: BradyGames Guide
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on March 26, 2018, 07:14:18 PM
Ohh... PDF guides. Can someone PM me the links please? Those make great toilet readings. lol
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia: BradyGames Guide
Post by: Nagumo on March 27, 2018, 03:22:20 AM
(click to show/hide)


Thank you very much! Those scans were incredibly helpful! For anyone interested, here's what I learned:

* Maxim is definitely not possessed when you fight him in castle A.
* I was always unsure about this, but Shadow seems to be a separate entity from evil Maxim. (The guide says Maxim left before Juste's battle with Shadow begins) So it seems it's just a random monster summoned by evil Maxim.

Aceearly, could you perhaps take another photo of the top part of page of 190? There's one final thing I would like to check but that part happened to be cut off from the photo.

Since we're sharing guides, they're scans of the very rare Dracula XX Holy Bible Guide on this very NSFW website:

https://e-hentai.org/g/1087574/23419c1272/
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia: BradyGames Guide
Post by: Aceearly1993 on March 27, 2018, 03:40:09 AM
(click to show/hide)

I found it weird that the guide book calls No Magic mode as "Fighter Mode" (technically right ;) )
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia: BradyGames Guide
Post by: Guy Belmont on March 27, 2018, 10:19:38 AM
I
I would be interested in scans from some specific pages from the Japanese guides for HoD and CoD. Would you perhaps be willing to make a couple of scans? (Of course, I understand if you don't want to ruin your books).

Regarding the Bloodlines guide, there's a very rare one called: "Castlevania Bloodlines Official Game Secrets". Is that the name of the one that you own?

Ahh yes sorry I don't often consider that a guide as I never use it as one  cos its in Japanese .
As for if its that book, sorry but I can't say, I think not but you never know.

 The book seems to have  what looks like a guide for  Bare Knuckle 3 as well, If that helps.

Oh and here's the Link where I got the scans For CoD from

 https://archive.org/details/CastlevaniaCurseOfDarknessBradygames (https://archive.org/details/CastlevaniaCurseOfDarknessBradygames)
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia: BradyGames Guide
Post by: theplottwist on March 27, 2018, 12:12:36 PM
>asks for one page of OoE guide
>people post this one page
>then pages of HoD guide
>then I learn of three other PDF guides that i have now read very much
>then secret holy books in hentai sites
>then there is a chance someone has an obscure bloodlines guide settling the matter of "hellhound or cerberus"

and this ain't even my birthday
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia: BradyGames Guide
Post by: Guy Belmont on March 28, 2018, 06:59:04 AM
>asks for one page of OoE guide
>people post this one page
>then pages of HoD guide
>then I learn of three other PDF guides that i have now read very much
>then secret holy books in hentai sites
>then there is a chance someone has an obscure bloodlines guide settling the matter of "hellhound or cerberus"

and this ain't even my birthday
Just want to expand on this.  sadly I can't get to it  as most of my stuff is in  storage as where moving around so yeah... its a real pain. As it should have been in with the stuff  that came to the house, not to the warehouse,  and the worse part was I was looking at it before we left the old house and thought this

  "I can't read this, I can't really use this, YES it is a collectable. but TBH others could really use this plus might as well get my money's worth when we get to the next house and fix the printer I'll just scan"
But no, no no, to my horror  there not there.
 
Bad Enough that I've been ripped away form the house I've had for 20  years, that's  years and years of memories just gone.
I knew the whole area like the back of my hand, it had great Motorway(highway) links, it was home.

 I feel for Trevor, as I've basically  been forced to leave my home behind.  and that lead to better things for him, and I'm sure it will for me. 

But still does not fix the problem at hand, as for once in the history of me being on this site I could  have helped out and BAM, No good.

and of Couse if it even is the right guide too, its in Japanese soo I don't think there were to many Vampire Killer guide books out there. But then one never knows.

So sorry about this.
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia: BradyGames Guide
Post by: Mysterii on April 02, 2018, 05:29:48 PM
The ones I own are   

lament of innocence, curse of darkness, portrait of ruin, Order of Ecclesia, Vampire Killer. (MD)

The ones I have scans of are
portrait of ruin, curse of darkness, Judgment, Order of Ecclesia.

So nothing to fancy. ;D

I plough all my cash in to making replicas of the Vampire Killer whip.

But Thank you for asking.

PM me the links for those (especially Vampire Killer)?  I'm desparate to find the official names of the "Nameless Souls" and if some of the ideas "started" by Mr.P are indeed canon and he wasn't making this up
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia: BradyGames Guide
Post by: Guy Belmont on April 03, 2018, 01:17:17 PM
Ummm is this the right one ? as this is the one that I own, I found a pic of it online.

If anyone is interested let me know so I can start looking, as I have some free time.


(https://i.imgur.com/jxq3do4.jpg)
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia: BradyGames Guide
Post by: Mysterii on April 04, 2018, 07:21:34 AM
Of course, anything related to Vampire Killer/Bloodlines is worth looking for, because of how much fan wankering is going on with the wiki.  And perhaps this will also settle if Mr. P's "theory" about Dracula Phase 2 actually being Drolta is correct
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia: BradyGames Guide
Post by: Guy Belmont on April 04, 2018, 07:48:40 AM
Of course, anything related to Vampire Killer/Bloodlines is worth looking for, because of how much fan wankering is going on with the wiki.  And perhaps this will also settle if Mr. P's "theory" about Dracula Phase 2 actually being Drolta is correct
Id like to find out too, also  i'd love to find out the name of the first sub boss. Ahh i remeber the frist time i saw it on my old telly,it blew my bloody mind.
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia: BradyGames Guide
Post by: Nagumo on April 04, 2018, 09:06:55 AM
They're a few scans of that guide on Mr P's site. It only covers the first four stages, though. Also, according to the guide, the first sub-boss's name is Cerberus.
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia: BradyGames Guide
Post by: Guy Belmont on April 04, 2018, 09:52:58 AM
They're a few scans of that guide on Mr P's site. It only covers the first four stages, though. Also, according to the guide, the first sub-boss's name is Cerberus.

Ahhhhh, yes, i see well thats solves that then, and as i don't know this Mr p's site, would some who does know tell me, is this the one eveyone wants. As i'm willing  to get a lift to the  storage, so if its anyone has a way of checking could they let me know.
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia: BradyGames Guide
Post by: Nagumo on April 04, 2018, 12:34:42 PM
It's not the one I was looking for. The one you have is a strategy guide appendix from Megadrive Fan magazine. I'm not sure if anyone else is interested, though.
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia: BradyGames Guide
Post by: Guy Belmont on April 04, 2018, 12:43:23 PM
It's not the one I was looking for. The one you have is a strategy guide appendix from Megadrive Fan magazine. I'm not sure if anyone else is interested, though.

Ah sorry for getting hopes up. but you never know one may come up on ebay.

I've seen the Castlevania Bloodlines Official Game Secrets  on amazon, its out of stock, sorry that's the one everyone is looking for, as this seem to be like one of those unofficial guides, or at best in the days when they had little to no idea  of the story line..
But just let me see if I have this right, is the author named Steven A Schwartz, and its been published  in the USA, i'm I right  so far?
cos and the date is a really danger sigh, I mean you know that this Bloke will be using the US storyline, so any data in that book will be worthless. 

I mean tell me I'm wrong, tell me there's a mix up, cos if this is the right one, then this will hold nothing canon at all, you do know that right?

Fingers crossed I've made a huge mistake and this is just another one, but anywho for the time being anyone that wants the JP story line info, drop me a line.
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia: BradyGames Guide
Post by: theplottwist on April 04, 2018, 03:13:38 PM
Ahhhhh, yes, i see well thats solves that then, and as i don't know this Mr p's site, would some who does know tell me, is this the one eveyone wants. As i'm willing  to get a lift to the  storage, so if its anyone has a way of checking could they let me know.

Well I am interested, but only on the last stages. That's where the whole "Dracula is in fact Drolta" thing supposedly comes from. Although yeah, that's not the guide I was looking for (like Nagumo).
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia: BradyGames Guide
Post by: Guy Belmont on April 04, 2018, 03:40:55 PM
Well I am interested, but only on the last stages. That's where the whole "Dracula is in fact Drolta" thing supposedly comes from. Although yeah, that's not the guide I was looking for (like Nagumo).
Well I really don't who and how this guide has got such a high status, seeing as  its in ENG and  made in 1994.
 And in those days they really didn't follow any of the Japanese storyline.

But like I said there could be two books with the same name. 

But when get the book back I'll send you shots of anything you Need. I'll send you a PM
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia: BradyGames Guide
Post by: theplottwist on April 04, 2018, 03:57:39 PM
Well I really don't who and how this guide has got such a high status, seeing as  its in ENG and  made in 1994.
 And in those days they really didn't follow any of the Japanese storyline.

But like I said there could be two books with the same name. 

But when get the book back I'll send you shots of anything you Need. I'll send you a PM

Thank you!

The other guide got high status because it's rare. I, personally, would value the Mega Drive FAN coverage above the english guide, not only because it's Japanese, but also because the book's publisher worked directly with Konami and is credited on Bloodlines. While the english guide is a work of Prima Games and is called "official", they are known for their not-very-high standards (seriously, check the one they did for Mortal Kombat (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ40YT4c5Ik), or this one for Dark Souls III (http://url=https://www.amazon.com/product-reviews/0744017041/ref=cm_cr_dp_syn_footer?k=Dark+Souls+III+Collector%27s+Edition%3A+Prima+Official+Game+Guide&showViewpoints=1&sortBy=helpful&pageNumber=1), and there are others). But, to know for a fact how trustworthy the english guide is, we have to read it.

So yeah  :rollseyes:
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia: BradyGames Guide
Post by: Guy Belmont on April 04, 2018, 04:10:24 PM
Thank you!

The other guide got high status because it's rare. I, personally, would value the Mega Drive FAN coverage above the english guide but, to know how trustworthy the english guide is, we have to read it. So yeah  :rollseyes:

No prob at all, and i agree i value the Mega Drive FAN thats why i got it.

And now i know that some members  want it i'll get right on that, we should be  going to the  Storage at the end of  the month. So hopefuly all are questions will be answered.
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia: BradyGames Guide
Post by: Guy Belmont on April 14, 2018, 05:09:27 PM
I have've just been in contact with  someone who maybe be able to get  me a copy of
"castlevania bloodlines official game secrets" he has to check  so it not a done deal, but its better then nothing.
fingers crossed eh.

This is what've been up to for the last few days. I never let anyhting GO
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia: BradyGames Guide
Post by: Nagumo on April 15, 2018, 01:43:03 AM
I only realized this recently, but the publisher of that Bloodlines guide, Prima, is known to have put out unofficial guides for SotN and CV64 (their first officially licensed guide was for Legacy of Darkness) There's a strong possibility the Bloodlines one is unofficial as well, which would explain its obscurity.
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia: BradyGames Guide
Post by: Guy Belmont on April 15, 2018, 12:57:47 PM
right I have found some new  information  on this elusive book.
I had a theory that it never existed as I could fine no trace and no one seemed to own it. I had hoped to be wrong so last night I got in contact with the author of this book, and he confirmed my suspicion,  he told  that the book had indeed  never published. You see after another quest to find a rare Gem I found out that,

Publishers like Prima  had to produce its catalog of upcoming titles for bookstores and resellers (such as B Dalton, Amazon, etc.) between 3-6 months in advance. As a result, titles that they THOUGHT they might publish occasionally slipped in, but were never written and published.

And this is what's happen to the Book, it was to be written and published, but at the last second they decided not to, most likely for money's sake.

So there you have it an end to the strange case of the "castlevania bloodlines official game secrets"


Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia: BradyGames Guide
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on April 16, 2018, 01:15:21 AM
Wow! That is a scoop. Thanks for snooping, Guy.
Well, that ends the investigation.
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia: BradyGames Guide
Post by: Guy Belmont on April 16, 2018, 07:46:31 AM
Wow! That is a scoop. Thanks for snooping, Guy.
Well, that ends the investigation.

No need to thank me

(https://i.imgur.com/wNDniqy.png)

I'm A Belmont, that's my job.



Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia: BradyGames Guide
Post by: theplottwist on April 16, 2018, 09:10:17 PM
Thank you, Guy Belmont.

I wonder why does this book even got a ISBN code, then.
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia: BradyGames Guide
Post by: Guy Belmont on April 17, 2018, 07:36:54 AM
Thank you, Guy Belmont.

I wonder why does this book even got a ISBN code, then.

 Thank you,
And on that part it is odd, what I guess is that they just do all that when they post there catalogue.

sadly we may never know.