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Then the patriots were revealed to be the cast of MGS3. That is still the dumbest reveal ever.
Wait... what? You mean the bosses of MGS3?
Wha........ Ocelot's a patriot? really?
Its possible to know that be playing MGS2 too, since he is helping them always,