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The Castlevania Dungeon Forums => General Castlevania Discussion => Topic started by: Foffy on October 01, 2021, 06:46:02 AM
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Here we go again, y'all. Following months of rumors relating to projects based around Metal Gear, Castlevania, and Silent Hill, it appears they've all coalesced to one larger rumor regarding Konami's plans to get back into premium games. For many of us, the bits regarding Castlevania are key, and interestingly, may be the first project related to these three IPs to be shown. Critically, it appears that Castlevania, not Metal Gear or Silent Hill, will be anchored internally by Konami in Japan, with the other two being largely outsourced projects. I have no idea if this is cause to be relieved or extra cause to be concerned, given they've just released eFootball, currently the worst rated Steam game in the platform's history, which is believed to also have been an in-house effort.
More of Konami's rumored plans at the link here. (https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/konami-is-set-to-revive-metal-gear-castlevania-and-silent-hill/)
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Interesting news. There are so many ways that this could go that I dunno whether to be excited and happy or nervous and worried.
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That last reimagining worked out so well, Konami. Please, continue.
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I've no intention about climbing aboard the hype train until I see what it is exactly that Konami intends to peddle our way.
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I think it’s definitely a possibility, seeing that recently we had Grimoire of souls rerelease, Advance collection and new music cd box sets.
I am very afraid when I hear words like reimagining and reboot. I never accepted LoS as part of Castlevania series and I didn’t even play them apart from a bit of 3DS version. I have always thought this was a different game that just got CV name slapped and some of its characteristics, but was not really Castlevania in spirit. On the other hand, Bloodstained was Castlevania in spirit, but without the Dracula/Belmonts and its lore.
I will be open to anything new, if it’s an honest and good try, I will give it a fair chance. If not, I am happy to have old games and rereleases, as well as IGA with his games.
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reimaginings are great imo to break up the same old same old. but after that, you really need to do a “back to the basics”. we’re due for a “back to the basics” game. hope Grimoire of Souls wasn’t it!
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Tbh a soft reboot would be good story-wise since IGA wrote the franchise into a corner with his timeline. As long as the gameplay is good and it has that Castlevania spirit I don't mind.
Of course, I've learned by now I shouldn't keep my hopes too high up.
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Konami has pretty much chased away anyone that could make a decent game period, let alone a Castlevania game, weather it be 2D or 3D. So my hopes are at a respectable low.
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For I myself, I don't trust any rumor or presume thing until the actual stuff is about to came. There was enough of false rumor things spread over in the past years.
Well for now the Castlevania series is effectively dead good, with its spirit already reincarnated and transfered into countless small to middle indie studios who actually care about 2D action development scene in general. I don't sense a "must do" reason to disturb the long dead corpse.
No I don't give a dang about it even it's indeed anything. It's in serious doubt if Konami Japan has enough man power to form a game development studio specifically for Castlevania, anyway.
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Tbh a soft reboot would be good story-wise since IGA wrote the franchise into a corner with his timeline. As long as the gameplay is good and it has that Castlevania spirit I don't mind.
I agree. There's really not many places to go in its current state.
I'm holding any excitement for when/if Konami actually announces something. If they make a good new CV game, more power to them. But I'm not counting on it.
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If/when this reimagining turns out to be a free-to-play micro-transaction game where you summon various protagonists via the collectible card game format in a boss rush setting, the “hey, it’s better than nothing” crowd here will eat it up.
But at least the presentation & artwork will be nice to look at
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Now there are rumors again that Sony and Kojima are working on a new Silent Hill:
https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2021/10/sony-allegedly-funding-kojima-productions-silent-hill-game (https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2021/10/sony-allegedly-funding-kojima-productions-silent-hill-game)
So now I don't know if Konami is working on a Silent Hill, Sony is working on a Silent Hill, or if both rumors are false. Maybe Sony, Kojima, Konami and IGA are working on a Metal Castle Hill reboot. :rollseyes:
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Maybe Sony, Kojima, Konami and IGA are working on a Metal Castle Hill reboot. :rollseyes:
So we have solid Snake Belmont climbing the Silent Hills of Castlevania to face his long-time family menace; Pyramidhead piloting Metal Gear Tepes!!
I know, it's lame, it's 1:00 AM over here okay?? I gotta go to bed...
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Now there are rumors again that Sony and Kojima are working on a new Silent Hill:
https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2021/10/sony-allegedly-funding-kojima-productions-silent-hill-game (https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2021/10/sony-allegedly-funding-kojima-productions-silent-hill-game)
So now I don't know if Konami is working on a Silent Hill, Sony is working on a Silent Hill, or if both rumors are false. Maybe Sony, Kojima, Konami and IGA are working on a Metal Castle Hill reboot. :rollseyes:
It would be cool to see IGA work on Castlevania again, and while I know he's open to it, I think the fact he went out of his way to make Not-Castlevania could be seen as a slight for a company as petty as Konami. Kojima, to his credit, finally gave up Metal Gear, after wanting to do so for years by the time MGSV released.
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So we have solid Snake Belmont climbing the Silent Hills of Castlevania to face his long-time family menace; Pyramidhead piloting Metal Gear Tepes!!
Lol! ;D Then comes the plot twist: Pyramid Head was Snake Belmont's tax attorney this whole time.
It would be cool to see IGA work on Castlevania again, and while I know he's open to it, I think the fact he went out of his way to make Not-Castlevania could be seen as a slight for a company as petty as Konami. Kojima, to his credit, finally gave up Metal Gear, after wanting to do so for years by the time MGSV released.
Oh yeah, I have no doubts that IGA and Kojima have burned their bridges as far as Konami sees it. I just wonder if anything will materialize out of the rumors this time. I would be down for either one if they ended up being true, but I don't want to get my hopes up. :-\
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Let's hope so..
I'm one of the few that actually liked the LoS story. Granted, the 2nd game just shit all over what they were trying to accomplish with the 1st one IMO. Gameplay was there, but the main story was absolute shit. The big twist at the end of the 1st game was what had my hopes up. It was a nice change of pace, it made sense for only a Belmont to be powerful enough to kill Dracula, being that he was the OG and all. But honestly, LoS i think would've done much better if it were geared to be the last of the series. I mean, i know we haven't gotten another console release since LoS2, but i'm pretty sure the intention was NOT to end the series there lol. Either way, i'm anxious to see what they come up with. I'll just be happy that they are finally trying to get their shit together and release another game.
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if they decide to go the 3D route again, i hope they steer away from the gritty realism this time and go for something more cartoony and campish. something a little more light hearted than the Lords of Shadows series this time, please. something more like Smash Bros’ tone. But not whimsical like Kid Dracula.
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If they were to attempt a CV game similar to CV64/LoD I don't think I'd mind. There would be no camera issues this time around either because of how far 3D games have come since the late 90's.
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As far as "Reimagings" go I seriously hope they use this opportunity to reboot it to stay much closer to Dracula's original source material from the novel than the Pop-Cultural Osmosis surrounding him like the Hamilton Deane high collared cape and tuxedo and the Francis Cord Coppla "Romantic Hero" backstory that IGA used that is but I'm not holding my breath though.
I think one of the few who could perhaps pull off a Castlevania game like that would be Migami Games although they already made "Wallachia Reign of Dracula" along with missed opportunities of using that as a backstory for Dracula personally and I think another company that could pull it off would be "The Game Kitchen" the ones behind the Blasphemous game now I would like to see them make a licensed Castlevania game.
if they decide to go the 3D route again, i hope they steer away from the gritty realism this time and go for something more cartoony and campish. something a little more light hearted than the Lords of Shadows series this time, please. something more like Smash Bros’ tone. But not whimsical like Kid Dracula.
By the Gods no, that is actually the worst suggestion ever since Castlevania already had it's cringy flashy anime era with IGA and I think it would be about time to move away from that and return to it's roots of the original games especially Super Castlevania 4 that is which the Lecarde Chronicles games along with Blasphemous should be perfect indication where the direction Castlevania should take.
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if they decide to go the 3D route again, i hope they steer away from the gritty realism this time and go for something more cartoony and campish. something a little more light hearted than the Lords of Shadows series this time, please. something more like Smash Bros’ tone. But not whimsical like Kid Dracula.
I'd like to see them scale back the realism a little bit, too. It would be nice to go back to the days of "Conan with a whip goes into a decrepit castle to fight movie monsters." Campy, but not too campy, I guess.
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Personally, I feel that a Castlevania reimagining should expand upon the framework of the original Devil May Cry by Hideki Kamiya, I love the other games, but I feel DMC1 was a near-perfect translation of CV to 3D since publications back in 2001 compared it favourable to CV and the actual 3D CVs borrowed from it. Of course, firearms and the style system can be omitted in favour of subweapons and an MP system that rewards good combat. As for aesthetic, I very much like the SotN to Curse of Darkness era as well as Order of Ecclesia returning the art to IGAvania's gothic roots after the weird shift in Dawn of Sorrow and Portrait of Ruin.
My only concern is what a reimagining might do to the fanbase since Lords of Shadow and DmC: Devil May Cry created a whirlpool of negativity and shitposting back in 2010, as in we had a bunch of insecure losers trying their darnedest to look macho on the internet by bashing the story and aesthetics of the original series. Hell, if those same users were around now, they'd be using tired buzzwords like "cringe" or "soy" to describe the original series. And don't get me started on how one particular Netflix reimagining of a popular Castlevania character made crazy Classicvania purists (I love Classicvania, by the way) act like the same insecure wannabe jocks they were back in 1997, but this time with a smug, unwarranted "I told you so" attitude despite the story not being connected to the classic universe whatsoever.
I personally loved the Lords of Shadow trilogy, but being honest, the dumbest argument for them I saw was that it was a return to form despite it being very much a reflection of modern gaming trends a la God of War and cinematic storytelling.
Though it's supposedly being handled in-house, so the biggest change we could see is the new game resembling Bloodborne to some degree. I think Konami might've learned from Capcom how outsourcing to the west is a terrible idea, that and Netflixvania just isn't popular in Japan. I'm quite averse fo western outsourcing since more often than not, way too much is lost in translation and culture.
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Though a reimagining might be a good thing if it's a soft-remake of the older Classicvanias similar to what Capcom's doing to the old Resident Evil games since modern takes on old CV games would be radically different to appeal to a modern market, so calling them a reimagining wouldn't be such a stretch.
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if they decide to go the 3D route again, i hope they steer away from the gritty realism this time and go for something more cartoony and campish. something a little more light hearted than the Lords of Shadows series this time, please. something more like Smash Bros’ tone. But not whimsical like Kid Dracula.
Honestly, same. The gritty realism schtick of the early to mid-2010s was such a weird thing for Castlevania, which as a franchise, is essentially a love letter to Hammer Horror.
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I do remember hearing that Konami was undergoing a major restructuring of their game development side (whatever is left of it anyway), so maybe this is related.
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There's nothing wrong with shaking things up with the series, but I believe you need to stay true to certain themes. Simple things like a whip cracking Belmont fighting monsters in a giant castle. Besides that, I'm ok with new things. Maybe you're a new Belmont, new sub-weapons, or maybe old options are brought back (I know CV64 had it's problems but they did some really cool things I would love to see again).
I really think they should take it easy. Don't pull a LoS and go crazy different with the plot. Just keep it Castlevania like we know it.
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I personally loved the Lords of Shadow trilogy, but being honest, the dumbest argument for them I saw was that it was a return to form despite it being very much a reflection of modern gaming trends a la God of War and cinematic storytelling.
You forgot to mention Shadow of the Colossus. The two giant colossus' fights in the first game were clearly inspired from Team Ico's game.
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You forgot to mention Shadow of the Colossus. The two giant colossus' fights in the first game were clearly inspired from Team Ico's game.
You're right, the Titan Fights were clearly taken from Shadow of the Colossus. Lords of Shadow was really a Frankenstein's monster of a game.
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Honestly, I want the main games to always stay true to the core experiences of the Castlevania series: either tightly paced linear adventures or big old labyrinthine mazes that encourage mobility, exploration, and backtracking. Focusing on the Belmonts, or notable allies of them like Alucard or the Belnades clan.
But I do believe that there should be room to go more than a little nuts -- throw shit at the wall, see what sticks. Not everything needs to be a "core" game or canon. Ever since Aria of Sorrow, I've wondered about a game that would start as a survival horror before gradually becoming a more traditional action horror as the hero gathers equipment and discovers their own power. A Demon Castle War squad shooter about the grunts in that conflict. A game set in the 1970's involving a Morris working for the CIA trying to stop the KGB from tapping into Chaos' power. Maybe a puzzle adventure game starring a Belnades scholar focusing on unraveling the ethereal mysteries of Dracula's castle to enable a Belmont to progress, maybe in the vein of We Were Here. There's tons of places the series could go on the side, and it should never be afraid to try new things -- just never at the expense of the core game line.
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So my understanding is that Castlevania: Rhapsody is the ‘re-imagining’… I wonder if this will go as well as when Konami re-imagined the Valis series :rollseyes:
Until they do something tangible that’s playable by demo, I choose to refrain from forming an opinion.
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So my understanding is that Castlevania: Rhapsody is the ‘re-imagining’… I wonder if this will go as well as when Konami re-imagined the Valis series :rollseyes:
Until they do something tangible that’s playable by demo, I choose to refrain from forming an opinion.
I thought Moonlight Rhapsody was canned, did it somehow resume development?
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So my understanding is that Castlevania: Rhapsody is the ‘re-imagining’… I wonder if this will go as well as when Konami re-imagined the Valis series :rollseyes:
Until they do something tangible that’s playable by demo, I choose to refrain from forming an opinion.
I'm not sure about that because that game isn't being developed in house by Konami. Its a Chinese development team behind that.