Topic: Where's Dracula XX ??

[sonicabid]

In Reply To #60

You know, when you think about it, original Rondo shouldn't be canon. How the hell is Shaft in SOTN when Richter killed his human form, then killed him as a ghost? If you really want to get into it, it makes for sense for it to go DXX ---> Sotn, since Shaft would still be alive. But since it goes original Rondo --> Sotn, Shaft should be 40 feet under. Silly IGA and team, should've gotten a new bad guy.

[Stigma Black]

In Reply To #76

:o

Now that's just crazy talk!

Stop being crazy!

>:o

[The Last Belmont]

In Reply To #60

You know, when you think about it, original Rondo shouldn't be canon. How the hell is Shaft in SOTN when Richter killed his human form, then killed him as a ghost? If you really want to get into it, it makes for sense for it to go DXX ---> Sotn, since Shaft would still be alive. But since it goes original Rondo --> Sotn, Shaft should be 40 feet under. Silly IGA and team, should've gotten a new bad guy.

but ghosts can't be killed though, shaft was just defeated. He needed to turn Richter to restore his power. He probably had to wait awhile until he was even powerful enough to turn Richter.

[Long John Silver]

Or he just stored himself in one of his orbs. I mean, he did that in rondo already, and in sotn too you had to smash the orb floating over richter to free him.

[The Last Belmont]

Or he just stored himself in one of his orbs. I mean, he did that in rondo already, and in sotn too you had to smash the orb floating over richter to free him.

Yeah he could have done that too, actually that would have been a cool trick if that's what he did, let Richter think he was defeated so he could bide his time and find a way to beat Richter if Dracula was defeated.

[Gunlord]

Hmm, so licensing isn't really a big issue? I see. Thanks, Wolfman Jake and Kensuke. I guess it really is disappointing they didn't include XX, then...

[sonicabid]

In Reply To #81

Shaft, that slick beast. Yeah, It kinda slipped my mind that he sealed some of his power in one of the orbs, to come back to fight Richter as a ghost, so yeah, I guess he could do it again. I'm still pretty sure it shows that final orb fall to the ground and break after you defeat his ghost. I should go play original Rondo again and check that out, but I'm too lazy.

[Wolfman Jake]

It doesn't imply either. You can have canon gaiden and non-canon gaiden. The term simply denotes a story that is incidental to the main story arc.

- John

I didn't mean that sidestory/gaiden implied canon either.  The words, as you said, simply denote spin-off stories.  A lot of people were referring to games as "gaiden" when they were really arguing canon vs. non-canon.

[Kensuke]

In Reply To #83

Yes. But if something contradicts they can't both be true. So gaiden or not, it would become non canonical at that point. Their's no evidence that XX was supposed to be a gaiden either. But it does contradict the correct version of events in Rondo, so it doesn't rate on the timeline, and is effectively thrown out of canon. Only Rondo does.

Also, once again I'd like to point out that the N64 games and CotM were always intended as gaiden. Legends and XX were not. That's why their toss out was more drastic.

- John

[Koutei]

From Japanese Official Guide Book.

http://www.vgmuseum.com/mrp/cv-rob/tdxc/guide-p009.jpg

Shaft:
The soul is moved to another place.
Even if the body is lost, power can be used through the crystal ball.

[Stigma Black]

I think it's quite clear at this point that Dracula XX is dead and gone, for obvious reasons.

And if there's another reason why it wasn't included, there's also the fact that IGA had nothing to do with it. At least he had some tangential involvement with the original Rondo of Blood.

[Wolfman Jake]

In Reply To #84

But no plot element that differs between Rondo and DXX has any baring on what happens in SotN, whatsoever.  Maria's ancestory never comes up, and I don't think Annette is even mentioned once in SotN, for that matter.  This isn't about "salvaging" DXX.  This is about the ability to be cognitively flexible enough to realize DXX isn't any kind of a threat to the continuity of the Castlevania story.  It works with either Rondo or DXX without really missing a beat.  Yes, Rondo is the better experience overall, but that isn't, and was never, the point of contention.

[Koutei]

In Reply To #86

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3162527

IGA: Well, the first Castlevania I worked on was Symphony of the Night -- I didn't actually work on Rondo of Blood. But my wife did. She worked on the development team. So I'd sometimes go to my wife's desk to play the game, and luckily I was given a "special thanks" in the credits.

[Stigma Black]

In Reply To #88

I did say tangential. It's not like he was the game's director or anything.

[The Last Belmont]

From Japanese Official Guide Book.

http://www.vgmuseum.com/mrp/cv-rob/tdxc/guide-p009.jpg

Shaft:
The soul is moved to another place.
Even if the body is lost, power can be used through the crystal ball.

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