Topic: The first sign rises with the full moon.

[VladCT]

I was gonna rip that shit, but then I found out they were just samples...

[TheTextGuy]

So, I noticed one of the tracks was also in the E3 demo files (Luxurious Overture), so if you want to hear the fullest version of the song, you could search for it on Youtube or find the files that were posted here a few pages ago (I think they might have been posted here don't quote me on that).

For some reason I'm surprised that it's the entrance theme.  I was expecting it to be somewhere else.

Also that new track sounds pretty great (Holy Wisdom).  It's not surprising that an organ piece would appear, but I'm glad it's in this game.

[zangetsu468]

Theme of Bloodstained so reminds me of a Castlevania Prologue where the text is scrolling down before the game begins.
Voyage of Promise is almost like OOE's Monastery crossed with AoS's opening song.
Holy Wisdom will surely be used in an ornate chapel/ garden setting adorned with Classical statues.
Luxurious overture is nice but predictable.

[affinity]

well they could complete more whips and distribute them better so the loot progression isn't oversaturated with swords.

[X]

well they could complete more whips and distribute them better so the loot progression isn't oversaturated with swords.

Here, here!

[VladCT]

Hmmm...

[Zargon]

So I guess the game is now being published by 505 games.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't it already have a publisher, and we all though it was Deep Silver or something? Or did we all just assume that? It is possible that 505 was the one with the deal from the start, where they promised 4/5ths of the money required if they could earn the remaining 1/5th through kickstarter. It does look like 505 has experience with this sort of thing, both with Japanese games and indie titles, so that is encouraging.

Also, check out those backgrounds. Looking great, Iga!

[Dremn]

It's looking awfully pretty so far, and seeing IGA with a whip again makes me grin

[shelverton.]

Yeah, could've sworn Deep Silver was publishing this. It still says so in the wikipedia article too... It's rather weird tbh. What happened?

[Zargon]

Perhaps the negative reception from MN9 caused a falling out with Inti creates? Their boss was pretty unhappy over the way it was advertised, after all. I'm also starting to wonder if this didn't account for at least part of the delay.

[XombieMike]

It was never announced or confirmed by any official staff that Deep Silver was the publisher IGA was working with. Someone had found that DS registered Bloodstained as a trademark, but they wouldn't comment about it. That trademark is the only link between the two, and when Ben Judd was asked about it at E3 by the Kinda Funny Games guys he said it was up to the publisher to make any official announcement. We were left with making an assumption without correction.

https://tmdb.eu/trademark/014052971/eu Koch owns Deep Silver.

Was DS actually involved and the source of the funding IGA mentioned in the KS video. I believe so. If so, they obviously didn't work out and we will likely not know the details due to professionals remaining professional. There are probably also written agreements protecting reputations as a part of renegotiating or terminating paperwork. Don't worry about DS owning any trademark though. (You're just gonna haveta trust me on that one.)

505 Games only has one black spot on their record, but they have many success stories. The developer for Payday 2 has blamed 505 Games for adding Micro Transactions to their game. The MTs were later revoked. I think there is more to the story and that 505 was used as a scapegoat, but I won't go into why unless asked. Ultimately, MTs in a Kickstarted IGAvania title that is under IGA's full control is simply not a concern of mine.

505 is legitimate. They aren't a huge evil publication corporation. I think they have about 100 employees according to their site. I hope to talk with them soon, but getting a hold of a PR manager of that Ian fellow might not be very easy.

[Kingshango]

Regarding the Wii U port:

On the Wii U Port of Bloodstained

“Yeah, it's a very complicated problem,” Iga said. “The reality is this: As timelines move on, certain pieces of hardware become irrelevant. Sometimes new pieces of hardware come out that make you think about what is the right strategy. And as a creator, usually you want to make stuff for the new hardware. That's the reality.”

“However, this was a game that was backed by people, and we made promises to listen to them. They're the people that gave us life so to speak. Any sort of change that we do or are considering that goes outside the scope of the promises we've made must be done with lots of explanation, must be done with lots of care, and must be done with lots of back and forth with them to see what options we have. We must listen to them at the end of the day, and we have made promises.”

“Unfortunately, some of those don't make as much sense anymore as they did before, and that's also reality. So you're in a very difficult position, and at the end of the day, if you're going to go in one certain direction, you want to make sure that you have support from them,” he explained.

“But so far we've, I think, been incredibly transparent through all the things that have happened with our backers, and they have been very supportive. So I'm hoping that if there is going to be a difficult decision some day, and we don't know, that we're able to have that conversation. If they say they don't get it, well that's where we're at. And if they say they do get it, well then, we'll be able to do things that are maybe more interesting. We'll see.

Looks like they're dropping it in favor of a NX port. Not surprising at the least since the Wii U will be a rotting corpse and the NX will be out for a year by the time this game comes out.

[Gunlord]

Awesome, this looks really cool

[Dremn]

Regarding the Wii U port:

Looks like they're dropping it in favor of a NX port. Not surprising at the least since the Wii U will be a rotting corpse and the NX will be out for a year by the time this game comes out.

Wow, thats quite a bummer. NX better be some some hot shit then.

[Flame]

Wow, thats quite a bummer. NX better be some some hot shit then.

Oh it'll be "hot shit" alright. I think that's a given by now considering the complete information blackout surrounding the thing only like a year or half a year before Launch