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Re: Rumor: New Castlevania game is a "reimagining"
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2021, 05:45:26 PM »
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Let's hope so..
I'm one of the few that actually liked the LoS story.  Granted, the 2nd game just shit all over what they were trying to accomplish with the 1st one IMO.  Gameplay was there, but the main story was absolute shit.  The big twist at the end of the 1st game was what had my hopes up.  It was a nice change of pace, it made sense for only a Belmont to be powerful enough to kill Dracula, being that he was the OG and all.  But honestly, LoS i think would've done much better if it were geared to be the last of the series.  I mean, i know we haven't gotten another console release since LoS2, but i'm pretty sure the intention was NOT to end the series there lol.  Either way, i'm anxious to see what they come up with.  I'll just be happy that they are finally trying to get their shit together and release another game.
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Re: Rumor: New Castlevania game is a "reimagining"
« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2021, 07:32:12 AM »
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if they decide to go the 3D route again, i hope they steer away from the gritty realism this time and go for something more cartoony and campish.  something a little more light hearted than the Lords of Shadows series this time, please. something more like Smash Bros’ tone.  But not whimsical like Kid Dracula.
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« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2021, 09:59:49 AM »
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If they were to attempt a CV game similar to CV64/LoD I don't think I'd mind. There would be no camera issues this time around either because of how far 3D games have come since the late 90's.
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Re: Rumor: New Castlevania game is a "reimagining"
« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2021, 03:06:29 PM »
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As far as "Reimagings" go I seriously hope they use this opportunity to reboot it to stay much closer to Dracula's original source material from the novel than the Pop-Cultural Osmosis surrounding him like the Hamilton Deane high collared cape and tuxedo and the Francis Cord Coppla "Romantic Hero" backstory that IGA used that is but I'm not holding my breath though.

I think one of the few who could perhaps pull off a Castlevania game like that would be Migami Games although they already made "Wallachia Reign of Dracula" along with missed opportunities of using that as a backstory for Dracula personally and I think another company that could pull it off would be "The Game Kitchen" the ones behind the Blasphemous game now I would like to see them make a licensed Castlevania game.

if they decide to go the 3D route again, i hope they steer away from the gritty realism this time and go for something more cartoony and campish.  something a little more light hearted than the Lords of Shadows series this time, please. something more like Smash Bros’ tone.  But not whimsical like Kid Dracula.

By the Gods no, that is actually the worst suggestion ever since Castlevania already had it's cringy flashy anime era with IGA and I think it would be about time to move away from that and return to it's roots of the original games especially Super Castlevania 4 that is which the Lecarde Chronicles games along with Blasphemous should be perfect indication where the direction Castlevania should take.
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Re: Rumor: New Castlevania game is a "reimagining"
« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2021, 08:34:57 PM »
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if they decide to go the 3D route again, i hope they steer away from the gritty realism this time and go for something more cartoony and campish.  something a little more light hearted than the Lords of Shadows series this time, please. something more like Smash Bros’ tone.  But not whimsical like Kid Dracula.

I'd like to see them scale back the realism a little bit, too. It would be nice to go back to the days of "Conan with a whip goes into a decrepit castle to fight movie monsters." Campy, but not too campy, I guess.
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Re: Rumor: New Castlevania game is a "reimagining"
« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2021, 03:15:42 AM »
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Personally, I feel that a Castlevania reimagining should expand upon the framework of the original Devil May Cry by Hideki Kamiya, I love the other games, but I feel DMC1 was a near-perfect translation of CV to 3D since publications back in 2001 compared it favourable to CV and the actual 3D CVs borrowed from it. Of course, firearms and the style system can be omitted in favour of subweapons and an MP system that rewards good combat. As for aesthetic, I very much like the SotN to Curse of Darkness era as well as Order of Ecclesia returning the art to IGAvania's gothic roots after the weird shift in Dawn of Sorrow and Portrait of Ruin.

My only concern is what a reimagining might do to the fanbase since Lords of Shadow and DmC: Devil May Cry created a whirlpool of negativity and shitposting back in 2010, as in we had a bunch of insecure losers trying their darnedest to look macho on the internet by bashing the story and aesthetics of the original series. Hell, if those same users were around now, they'd be using tired buzzwords like "cringe" or "soy" to describe the original series. And don't get me started on how one particular Netflix reimagining of a popular Castlevania character made crazy Classicvania purists (I love Classicvania, by the way) act like the same insecure wannabe jocks they were back in 1997, but this time with a smug, unwarranted "I told you so" attitude despite the story not being connected to the classic universe whatsoever.

I personally loved the Lords of Shadow trilogy, but being honest, the dumbest argument for them I saw was that it was a return to form despite it being very much a reflection of modern gaming trends a la God of War and cinematic storytelling.

Though it's supposedly being handled in-house, so the biggest change we could see is the new game resembling Bloodborne to some degree. I think Konami might've learned from Capcom how outsourcing to the west is a terrible idea, that and Netflixvania just isn't popular in Japan. I'm quite averse fo western outsourcing since more often than not, way too much is lost in translation and culture.
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Re: Rumor: New Castlevania game is a "reimagining"
« Reply #21 on: October 07, 2021, 03:19:26 AM »
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Though a reimagining might be a good thing if it's a soft-remake of the older Classicvanias similar to what Capcom's doing to the old Resident Evil games since modern takes on old CV games would be radically different to appeal to a modern market, so calling them a reimagining wouldn't be such a stretch.
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Re: Rumor: New Castlevania game is a "reimagining"
« Reply #22 on: October 07, 2021, 07:27:50 AM »
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if they decide to go the 3D route again, i hope they steer away from the gritty realism this time and go for something more cartoony and campish.  something a little more light hearted than the Lords of Shadows series this time, please. something more like Smash Bros’ tone.  But not whimsical like Kid Dracula.

Honestly, same. The gritty realism schtick of the early to mid-2010s was such a weird thing for Castlevania, which as a franchise, is essentially a love letter to Hammer Horror.
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Re: Rumor: New Castlevania game is a "reimagining"
« Reply #23 on: October 07, 2021, 08:03:26 AM »
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I do remember hearing that Konami was undergoing a major restructuring of their game development side (whatever is left of it anyway), so maybe this is related.

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Re: Rumor: New Castlevania game is a "reimagining"
« Reply #24 on: October 07, 2021, 09:07:32 AM »
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There's nothing wrong with shaking things up with the series, but I believe you need to stay true to certain themes. Simple things like a whip cracking Belmont fighting monsters in a giant castle. Besides that, I'm ok with new things. Maybe you're a new Belmont, new sub-weapons, or maybe old options are brought back (I know CV64 had it's problems but they did some really cool things I would love to see again).

I really think they should take it easy. Don't pull a LoS and go crazy different with the plot. Just keep it Castlevania like we know it.

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« Reply #25 on: October 07, 2021, 10:20:53 AM »
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I personally loved the Lords of Shadow trilogy, but being honest, the dumbest argument for them I saw was that it was a return to form despite it being very much a reflection of modern gaming trends a la God of War and cinematic storytelling.

You forgot to mention Shadow of the Colossus. The two giant colossus' fights in the first game were clearly inspired from Team Ico's game.
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Re: Rumor: New Castlevania game is a "reimagining"
« Reply #26 on: October 07, 2021, 12:35:29 PM »
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You forgot to mention Shadow of the Colossus. The two giant colossus' fights in the first game were clearly inspired from Team Ico's game.
You're right, the Titan Fights were clearly taken from Shadow of the Colossus. Lords of Shadow was really a Frankenstein's monster of a game.

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Re: Rumor: New Castlevania game is a "reimagining"
« Reply #27 on: October 08, 2021, 04:02:39 AM »
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Honestly, I want the main games to always stay true to the core experiences of the Castlevania series: either tightly paced linear adventures or big old labyrinthine mazes that encourage mobility, exploration, and backtracking. Focusing on the Belmonts, or notable allies of them like Alucard or the Belnades clan.

But I do believe that there should be room to go more than a little nuts -- throw shit at the wall, see what sticks. Not everything needs to be a "core" game or canon. Ever since Aria of Sorrow, I've wondered about a game that would start as a survival horror before gradually becoming a more traditional action horror as the hero gathers equipment and discovers their own power. A Demon Castle War squad shooter about the grunts in that conflict. A game set in the 1970's involving a Morris working for the CIA trying to stop the KGB from tapping into Chaos' power. Maybe a puzzle adventure game starring a Belnades scholar focusing on unraveling the ethereal mysteries of Dracula's castle to enable a Belmont to progress, maybe in the vein of We Were Here. There's tons of places the series could go on the side, and it should never be afraid to try new things -- just never at the expense of the core game line.
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Re: Rumor: New Castlevania game is a "reimagining"
« Reply #28 on: October 10, 2021, 12:55:50 AM »
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So my understanding is that Castlevania: Rhapsody is the ‘re-imagining’… I wonder if this will go as well as when Konami re-imagined the Valis series  :rollseyes:

Until they do something tangible that’s playable by demo, I choose to refrain from forming an opinion.
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Re: Rumor: New Castlevania game is a "reimagining"
« Reply #29 on: October 10, 2021, 10:16:05 AM »
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So my understanding is that Castlevania: Rhapsody is the ‘re-imagining’… I wonder if this will go as well as when Konami re-imagined the Valis series  :rollseyes:

Until they do something tangible that’s playable by demo, I choose to refrain from forming an opinion.

I thought Moonlight Rhapsody was canned, did it somehow resume development?

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