Topic: Would you marry a djinn?

[Mooning Freddy]

I'm taking Islamic faith as one of my courses at the moment. We all remember the djinn (or genie) in the story about Aladdin. But how many of us know that djinns (demons in Arab folklore) are actually a part of Islamic belief, and that at least some Muslims believe in?   
I'm studying a book in which a theologian explains the basics of Muslim religion. He criticizes certain early Islamic literature and hadith (law) because it sometimes argues about matters as irrelevant as marriages with djinns. One story, he explains, tells of an Arab rich man who had four djinn-wives.

http://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091007030233AAalkf7

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Islam-947/2010/3/Human-relation-Djinn.htm

How about you, guys? Would you merry a djinn-wife if you could?  Or would it rather be a marriage with Shaitan?

[crisis]

HELL NO


have you ever seen the movie Wishmaster?

Wishmaster Trailer


 That is why me am no marry one.

[A-Yty]

But how many of us know that djinns (demons in Arab folklore) are actually a part of Islamic belief, and that at least some Muslims believe in?

Everyone who has seen Wishmaster 

Edit: damn you, Crisis 

[Mooning Freddy]

Wes Craven? Robert Englund? In a low-rated film? Sounds like my kind of popcorn & alcohol night.

[beingthehero]

I think many Muslim scholars don't really consider djinn as demons, but rather as creatures with similar intelligence, beliefs, and customs to that of humans. I believe Islam teaches they were made by God from smokeless fire, whereas humans were made from the dust. Tradition also has it that there are Muslim djinn as well.
Some scholars pretty much regard them as living in another dimension that we cannot comprehend, and hypothesize that some djinn feel the same about humans as some humans do about them.

Of course, many Muslims may not even believe in djinn. Islam is a very fascinating and complex religion.

[TheouAegis]

14:22 spits in the face of demoniac apologetics. (scroll to the very bottom of the 2nd link) "And Satain will say, '... I only invited, but you followed.' Goes against all that "The devil made me do it" hoopla.

It explains in one of the passages how humans could co-exist with djinni, so obviously it's possible.

Sidenote, the passages where Iblis talks back to Allah to me just make Allah sound like a little kid. "See this? This is my greatest work of art! Appreciate it!" Then Iblis was like, "What the hell? Is that a ... What is that? I can't tell if that's a retarded tree or a gorilla." And Allah said, "It's a man!" And Iblis said, "Dude, that so isn't your greatest work. How much candy did you have to eat last night?" Then Allah said, "Go to hell, jerk!"

But I don't personally give any credence to any Judeo-Christian/Islamic mumbo-jumbo. It's all Zoroastrian mk.II thru mk.IV anyway.

[Kale]

How are you going to marry something that's going to be trapped for the rest of it's immortal life by King Solomon?

And .... indeed, Wish Master was my first thought too.

[Flame]

Dunno, I might be tempted...

[TheouAegis]

If you rub the "magic lamp" the genie will come.

^out

[Flame]

I'D RUB HER MAGIC LAMP IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN

y'know, somehow, that just DOESN'T quite work as well in reference to a woman...

[Mooning Freddy]

Islam is a very fascinating and complex religion.

Fascinating? Yes. Complex? I believe history made it so. I don't believe Muhammad the prophet intended it to be so; rather, he wanted it to be simple. Much like Jesus of Nazareth and other prophets before him, he was bothered by the corruption and immorality of the people around him and thus formed a religion which was intended to create a better society. The very meaning of Islam is "devotion" or "submission" (to Allah).
The greatest values in the religion are modesty and mercifulness, and the basic idea is that when people understand their inferiority compared to God, this destroys their pride and creates a more equal society. 

Out of all the values attributed to Allah, Muslims emphasize His mercifulness. Every sura (chapter) in the Quran starts with "Bismillah al-rahman al-rahim", which translates to "in the name of God, the gracius and merciful".
Those great values of tolerance and justice sound a bit strange when compared to modern radical Islamists and certain Muslim states, which are neither tolerant nor particularly merciful, or Muslim kings and princes who are far from being considered modest. It just shows us that real life doesn't exactly appear the way ideologists want it to.

Hehe, that's a nice painting, Flame.

[Gunlord]

My parents are Muslim, but I don't know too much about Djinns...going from that article, though, it seems like too much trouble. ~_~

[Mooning Freddy]

I cannot help but smile at the seriousness of people's responses to the question.

"You may not befriend djinns.  It is harram (forbidden). You must only befriend Allah." 

[Kale]

>.>

Marriage is legal slavery! You aren't befriending anyone!


Now ... GET BACK IN THE KITCHEN!

[Flame]

Found the pic on gelbooru when I searched "Djinn" or "Genie" (cant remember which- also, NSFW warning on gelbooru)

Religion really is a fascinating thing to study. (especially from a neutral viewpoint. I consider myself Catholic, but im not particularly religious, so im more or less neutral) ALL religions have branches, and some of those often are radicals. Its just a matter of how many vs how many.

Christianity for example, has TONS of branches. AND has had (and HAS) it's own radical movements.

Islam, from what I have seen though, is VERY impressionable, and it seems like it is very easy for your every day average person to suddenly go radical. It happens all over the news. Seemingly normal man with family, all that, suddenly goes on a rampage or tries to blow something up. They investigate his recent actions, and find he either went to the middle east recently, or had been in constant recent touch with an Imam.

Im really interested in how that happens. How is it that simple to twist someone's view of their religion just like that? Even mist scholars of Islam agree that what the radicals preach is NOTHING like what is actually outlined in the Qur'an

We need a religion discussion topic up in dis board I think.