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The Castlevania Dungeon Forums => General Castlevania Discussion => Topic started by: RegalSin on March 14, 2014, 12:37:20 AM
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Kid Dracula is the foundation that SOTN, sits atop of, explaining that Alucard, had more to his story. Personally I think It would make an auwsome game, if ever made into photogenic 3d, or a series in itself.
It is clear from the translations, and what nots that is him. Then LOTS came along and created this stupid, Dracula blood into Treavors mouth rubbish.
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Uh, I think Kid Alucard takes place in something like 10,000 years in the future, so I don't think it builds up SotN.
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I personally believe that the game was just a spoof of the Castlevania franchise and there is nothing more to it.
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I personally believe that the game was just a spoof of the Castlevania franchise and there is nothing more to it.
Same here. There are lots of games that spoof other games just as comedy movies spoof other movies. The only reason why Kid Dracula is viewed as such was because of IGA. The man doesn't know when to leave well-enough alone so he shoehorned the game in the CV timeline depicting it 10,000 years hence-fourth. It's a kiddy spoof on a classic is all it is. I've played it on emulator and it's both fun, funny (KKK boss lol!), and challenging. But to me it's not in the CV universe cause it just makes even less sense then some of the other things IGA had done with the series.
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The man doesn't know when to leave well-enough alone so he shoehorned the game in the CV timeline depicting it 10,000 years hence-fourth.
I think you are taking Judgment far far far more seriously than what it took itself, X-kun. And IGA said it wasn't canon.
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I think X meant it was included in the timeline at some point.
Seriously. (http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120421141929/castlevania/images/d/d9/Konamimagazinevolume03-page070.jpg)
Actually, before IGA created his timeline, the bio from the Kid Dracula manual says Dracula from Akumajo Densetsu is his father. So there was at least a small connection.
And as far as I know, despite taking place in a time rift, information from Judgment is canon no matter how lame people may think it is.
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Oh wow. Sorry X-kun. D:
But Naggermo, when IGA was asked where Judgment took place in the canon, he always said 'Don't worry about it.' I'll have to track down the interview tonight.
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Yeah, but I actually nagged him on Facebook about it once. He basically said the game is a work that "takes place beyond space and time and brings them together". It's an excuse to have all these characters together in one game (hence the "don't worry about it"), but it's still in continuity. That also explains why Cornell is in the game, since he's from another world.
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Oh wow. Sorry X-kun. D:
No worries bro :)
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Kid Dracula is a parody and nothing more. It's a fun game that i own, but it was intended for a younger audience as a Castlevania alternative.
I don't like this IGA. He does weak work. Castlevania was a fabled franchise at the time that this guy was handed the reigns. Symphony of the night is the only game he can hang his hat on. And he didn't even produce it. Castlevania chronicles and Dracula x chronicles are both hacks!! Not even his games.. Those are his best works. A game he didn't produce and two hacks, lol. Lament of innocence is also a decent game, although very weak. I can hardly recognize the other games as part of the series to be honest. The guy is a joke.
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I don't like this IGA. He does weak work. Castlevania was a fabled franchise at the time that this guy was handed the reigns. Symphony of the night is the only game he can hang his hat on. And he didn't even produce it. Castlevania chronicles and Dracula x chronicles are both hacks!! Not even his games.. Those are his best works. A game he didn't produce and two hacks, lol. Lament of innocence is also a decent game, although very weak. I can hardly recognize the other games as part of the series to be honest. The guy is a joke.
why u so mad bro? here's some advice:
holding a grudge is like drinking poison & hoping the other person dies
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holding a grudge is like drinking poison & hoping the other person dies
Unless you're the Dread Pirate Roberts and have built up an immunity.
But yeah, Kid Dracula's just spoof. I mean, I guess the Castle could have undergone total chibification during the 8000 years it was in the eclipse/destroyed in the eclipse and somehow made Alucard into a chibi wherever he was sleeping.
It's not like weirder shit hasn't happened in the series.
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Kid Dracula is a parody and nothing more. It's a fun game that i own, but it was intended for a younger audience as a Castlevania alternative.
I don't like this IGA. He does weak work. Castlevania was a fabled franchise at the time that this guy was handed the reigns. Symphony of the night is the only game he can hang his hat on. And he didn't even produce it. Castlevania chronicles and Dracula x chronicles are both hacks!! Not even his games.. Those are his best works. A game he didn't produce and two hacks, lol. Lament of innocence is also a decent game, although very weak. I can hardly recognize the other games as part of the series to be honest. The guy is a joke.
hey now, don't you be dissin' my Technovania.
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why u so mad bro? here's some advice:
holding a grudge is like drinking poison & hoping the other person dies
Just getting it out of my system. It will be over soon ;D
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Kid Dracula is a parody game and shouldn't be taken seriously as far as canon beyond the cameos.
Now if I were to infer anything from the original game's story is that Dracula-kun is not Alucard, but perhaps his son.
But unless some future producer decides to incorporate any of this into the main series canon it's irrelevant anyway.
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I am sure I do not have to say, wikipedia is not a source for everything ( so says the power of college professors ). However, lets be realistic, without this game would Alucard, have been around for Symphony Of The Night? Seeing how death appears at the beginning, of both games, simular to magi-koopa in Mario world.
What we have to understand, their are many games, where the character has a chibi, SD, or even morphed appearance. This is how games are mostly on the 2d consoles, personally some games work better like this, then all being over sized fighter graphics or, "Prince of Persia" Graphics.
So far the problem I am seeing, is that the fan-base is playing it cool, when it comes to Kid Dracula, because of the abuse towards the idea itself, across western shores? Could it just be a western bias of Kid Dracula, or does people want to get drunk and forget about who Alucard is really.
What if he had the appearance of his Vampire self from the third game? what then? Of course I am talking about how the sprite looked, very much like an 1950's B&W movie dracula we all know from Halloween costumes, but that same appearance in SOTN? I believe that KD, appearance itself,
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About the futuristic worlds and all. 1797 pretty much equals 11797 and if that was the case ( this is from the Castlevania wiki ), chances are the development of the SOTN project revovled around the PSX game as a remix, of the Kid Dracula game, but they just made the entire game take place in the Castle, and the underworld. Is that not kinda odd, that without that one, one, the two years match up. Alucard awakens to stop evil, and death takes away his fathers items from him.
The only way that Alucard could not be, Kid Dracula is that if the "Time Reapear was sent from the future by, Galamoth. Oh wait a second Galamoth is that giant thing in SOTN, which takes place in 11797 - 10000. That is interesting, seeing how that boss, was their as well, because a giant T-rex, dressed up as an Egyptian, pulling a star-gate, kinda made no sense. Was this the boss that was chained down?
It just seems that SOTN, was sappose to be a sequel to Kid Dracula, because the official game, had went to the N64, leaving the PSX for open production of anything, Strange how the final boss of the PSX game is "Alien", and I am sure that "Alien" references are being made all over SOTN, in relation to Kid Dracula. So obvious, but we ignore it.
So Kid Dracula/Alucard is kinda like that loop-hole that makes no logical sense, but to make a teenish version of Dracula, for the PSX crowd............
And that is why Dracula X: Rondo of Blood is the last real CV game.....the end. Everybody ignores that because CV games are just so fun and cool looking, and Konomi needs money.
Yeah SOTN, one wacky game when you think about it, not the most perfect CV game, but a CV game that exploited the powers of high powered 3d game systems, not saying the PCE can't do it, I am saying, when you look it at from a KD perspective, very wacky game indeed. Like what Nintendo did with Kirby on the NES, after the GB games was a success.
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I am sure I do not have to say, wikipedia is not a source for everything ( so says the power of college professors ).
Wikipedia (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFBDn5PiL00#)
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Oh dear, RegalSin, you are over thinking much. But if that is what floats your boat, so be it, just don't rub the idea too much on other folk who think otherwise.
Wikipedia... :facepalm:
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It's not a good idea to rely heavily on wikipedia. It's just like that actor had said, anyone can put up information on wikipedia. But you have to ask yourself; "How much of that information is genuine?" Lot's of people have contributed to it and others (though their numbers are small) have contributed false info as well. And then there are those how contribute their own personal views on what kind of info they want to public to read. When relying on such a site take it with a grain of salt.
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Those pics show a much better looking cv legends, you don't have more pictures like that, do you?
I think X meant it was included in the timeline at some point.
Seriously. (http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120421141929/castlevania/images/d/d9/Konamimagazinevolume03-page070.jpg)
Actually, before IGA created his timeline, the bio from the Kid Dracula manual says Dracula from Akumajo Densetsu is his father. So there was at least a small connection.
And as far as I know, despite taking place in a time rift, information from Judgment is canon no matter how lame people may think it is.
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It's not a good idea to rely heavily on wikipedia. It's just like that actor had said, anyone can put up information on wikipedia. But you have to ask yourself; "How much of that information is genuine?" Lot's of people have contributed to it and others (though their numbers are small) have contributed false info as well. And then there are those how contribute their own personal views on what kind of info they want to public to read. When relying on such a site take it with a grain of salt.
True story. If you try to read anything about classic nes on Wikipedia you find out really fast that it's been infiltrated by people selling reproduction games. I don't remember reproduced being part of the official nes library.. That's just one example, but i have seen many more.