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Title: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: A n t r a x x on June 08, 2009, 01:50:02 AM
Y'know, if it turns out he was actually fired from the series.


I will miss:



- His fashion sense

- His loyalty to and knowledge of the series and his clever easter-egg references to it

- His nice-guy personality, and his drive and passion to better himself for the series' sake. Never afraid to blame himself when things don't go as planned either.

- His consistent ability to give us some incentive to replay his games (always made sure there was a second quest, and character of some kind. Alot of other developers don't give a shit in that regard)

- His trust in, and respect of, Michiru and Ayami. We are spoiled with their combined talents and the two of them gave the series a singular style to identify with.

- His very attempt to try to give an overarching plot to such a deep, historic, albeit confusing franchise.

- His never giving up on the series, even when it seemed Konami was not entirely behind it.   


Hey, I may disagree with some of his decisions over his 10-game run, but overall I respected his passion to turn the series into something bigger. That he absolutely tried his best I think there is no doubt.

Now whether it was enough... I don't think there's a single human on earth that can entirely please the average CV fan out there.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: Lumas on June 08, 2009, 01:55:58 AM
Assuming he is gone

I will miss

-His dedication to the series.

-His hat.

-The art direction he took the series in.

-The fact he introduced us to Ayami and Yamane.

-The fact he kept putting htem out like clock work though i previously said I would like to miss cv once an while that was impressive.

There is probably more but if indeed he is gone I will miss his dedication.

Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: Shadowserg on June 08, 2009, 03:56:09 AM
Nothing
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: A-Yty on June 08, 2009, 05:32:12 AM
- His cool cowboy hat

- His loyalty to Konami and CV

- He seems like a nice guy; humble and polite. He is no David Jaffe, thank God.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: cecil-kain on June 08, 2009, 07:21:28 AM
This topic is really premature, but I will say this.

I can't think of anyone else in the game industry so dedicated to the artform --as opposed to the business.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: A-Yty on June 08, 2009, 07:28:40 AM
Assuming this topic is connected to the announcement of LoS, it is silly in many ways.

But I guess it's good to see what good things people think about IGA. For a change.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: Rugal on June 08, 2009, 08:02:33 AM
This topic is really premature, but I will say this.

I can't think of anyone else in the game industry so dedicated to the artform --as opposed to the business.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: cecil-kain on June 08, 2009, 09:05:38 AM
Why does everyone want CV to be mainstsream? It isn't a good thing. Just look at Halo.

mainstream appeal = profit
profit = more investment
more investment = higher quality
higher quality = happy dungeonites

Unless of course you're into recycled sprites, copypasta stage design, and other mediocre production values...
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: Aridale on June 08, 2009, 09:49:19 AM
In Reply To #9

Mainstream != shit in every case either.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: Ahasverus on June 08, 2009, 10:48:12 AM
I would miss:
1- He likes working with Ayami and Yamane, those two are the great missing gears of LoS.... ok, I will have them again in the Alucardvania xD
2- His knowledge about the classics and the easter eggs he puts into the games.
3- His goth atmposphere sense.
4- He likes hgis work; his work is bad sometimes, but he loves it; I don't know if dave Cx really love CV as IGA does.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: Reinhart77 on June 08, 2009, 11:06:18 AM
I liked that he was the focal point of Castlevania for a while.  It was nice to just say "find out what Iga thinks and you'll have your answer".  It was great that he was always at the big events and was good with interviews.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: Giz on June 08, 2009, 11:10:32 AM
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Mainstream != shit in every case either.
Most of the time, however, it isn't~
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: Rugal on June 08, 2009, 11:45:17 AM
mainstream appeal = profit
profit = more investment
more investment = higher quality
higher quality = happy dungeonites

Unless of course you're into recycled sprites, copypasta stage design, and other mediocre production values...

I just don't want my beloved Castlevania to be in the same category as those stupid franchises such as Halo, Call of Duty, Madden, and so on. I'm sick of casual gamers ruining everything. "OMG DIS GAEM IZ TOO HARD IT MUS SUX"

Soooo many people complained when Street Fighter IV came out that the AI was too hard, and that Seth was impossible.. Please, give me a break here. Learn skill.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: justin312 on June 08, 2009, 11:48:25 AM
Personally, if he is done with the series, I'll be happy. I personally feel that he destroyed the Castlevania story and it's good to see that Konami plan on starting over. However, I just hope this team doesn't wind up butchering it too.

I agree, I think Iga is overrated and its great to see a new team have a crack at taking Castlevania in a new direction.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: Clara E. Leet on June 08, 2009, 11:48:57 AM
In Reply To #15

Remember the feedback from DXC? Reviewers gave it shit ratings because it was too hard.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: Aridale on June 08, 2009, 11:55:18 AM
In Reply To #15

Hey... say what ya want about Halo Im not a big fan mself but Call of Duty is fuckin awesome. World at War is fantastic
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: DragonSlayr81 on June 08, 2009, 01:12:38 PM
Mainstream could either go two ways:

1. Attempt to achieve a broader audience, succeed and use all the earnings to fund BETTER games of more quality.

2. Attempt to achieve a broader audience, suceed, then sell out.

The Final Fantasy series has be guity of that in the recent years(all the sucky spinoffs). Besides games, the horror movie genre going mainstream is also responsible(IMO). Horror movies haven't been the same since late 90s, and they've become more plastic. That's one of the reason I kinda took a second take when they used the word "reboot" regardin Lords of Shadow. That little word has been tossed around plenty much in the horror movie genre, and it's probably responsible for the worst aspect of modern horror, "souless remakes". Though, I DO trust Kojima. As long as it doesn't turn out to be a GoW clone and something a WHOLE LOT MORE. If it succeeds in doing things(on a gameplay level) that the GoW series could only dream about, that's all I'm hoping for!

I got a bit off topic. IGA, wow, I'll miss a lot! I really loved the spirit that he brought to the CV series. Classed it up a bit. Made it fancy. His story ideas were very interesting, though they never really rose to the occassion. Loved how he used Ayami Kojima and Michiru Yamane! Love them both(and hope they still have a place in the CV series). IGA was very dedicated to the series, and at least tried to make things fit. I really would've liked to see what he had in store for the Demon Castle War(1999) and that even where the Belmonts lost the abilty to wield the VK. I wonder if we'll ever know?
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: Rugal on June 08, 2009, 01:42:01 PM
In Reply To #15

Remember the feedback from DXC? Reviewers gave it shit ratings because it was too hard.

Exactly. If DXC was released about 6-10 years ago, it wouldn't have gotten such crappy ratings because games these days just hold your hand through the entire thing. Why do all FPS games other than HALF-LIFE that come out these days let you regenerate health when you stand still? It makes even less sense when this is a feature in a friggin WORLD WAR II GAME!

Anyway, I digress.. I just have no care for anything that's mainstream. This includes World of Warcraft, Hanna Montana (Give me a fucking break) The Jonas Brothers (LOOOOOOOOL) John Cena.. and that god awful Twilight movie/book bullshit. VAMPIRES DONT SPARKLE WHEN THEY GO INTO SUN LIGHT. THEY BURN AND DIE A HORRIBLE DEATH. YOU ASSHOLES RUINING MY CHILDHOOD EXPERIENCES.. Erm.. Sorry..

Yeah.. I want CV to stay at its roots. Candle whipping, skeleton throwing action.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: Clara E. Leet on June 08, 2009, 01:54:09 PM
Hey I bet if Dracula sparkled in the sunlight this new CV would sell a shitload more copies. Think of how the fanbase would spread!

...

*realizes what the forums would turn into with the twilight-drooling newbies that it would generate*

...Er... nevermind.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: Munchy on June 08, 2009, 01:59:21 PM
I'll miss IGA's endless defense of the 2D format.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: Giz on June 08, 2009, 02:07:53 PM
his ability to retain that 'Castlevania' feeling regardless of style and setting. Something MercurySteam could definitely use~
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: Oralox on June 08, 2009, 02:08:43 PM
In Reply To #21

Nah it wouldn't work because it probably won't have that romantic sci-fi theme or whatever twilight has that makes
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: A n t r a x x on June 08, 2009, 02:22:07 PM
I'll miss IGA's endless defense of the 2D format.

Ah. That's a good point.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: justin312 on June 08, 2009, 02:29:18 PM
his ability to retain that 'Castlevania' feeling regardless of style and setting. Something MercurySteam could definitely use~

That remains to be seen.  Its very possible that MercurySteam will nail the Castlevania feel perfectly, we just haven't seen enough of the game yet from the very little the trailer shows.  At least Konami is finally making a 3D Castlevania a priority instead of a low budget item on the back burner, so I am optimistic.  I am going to give them the benefit of the doubt until I see enough footage to convince me that they missed the mark from an atmosphere and feel perspective.  I don't think any of us can say that yet, based on how little we've actually seen.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: DragonSlayr81 on June 08, 2009, 10:10:12 PM
Yeah, it kinda is too early regarding how much CV feel LoS will retain. For all we know, they've got some cool gothic areas in store for us! Some demons and zombies and vampires. Though I would've preferred the ogre to look undead(with peeling flesh, exposed ribcage and such). Kinda like how CoD's Minotaur had his raw, exposed spine! Or even DoS's Balore's raw face(for that matter, Gergoth's raw face, too)! Actually, that ogre reminds me of DoS's Balore(minus the S&M headgear and raw face).
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: DoctaMario on June 08, 2009, 10:51:51 PM
I think IGA's done more harm than good to the series, but I like his passion for it. I feel like he has good ideas, but they're never fully realized enough and maybe that's his fault and maybe its Konami's.

But either way, it's been nice to have someone repping the series who is actually a FAN, as opposed to some guy who's just collecting a paycheck.

Plus, for all the games IGA's put out that I've been somewhat lukewarm on, DXC was a smash out of the park. he really pulled it together for that one.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: Profbeanburrito on June 08, 2009, 11:42:49 PM
I think IGA has a great passion for the series, and what he does for it he feels its the best interest for the series. When and if we get a new producer for the series, I doubt they'll put as much effort into the games. Sure he used the same system for the majority of the series, but without him we wouldn't have such a great game the SotN is, probably wouldn't have the fantastic artwork that comes from Ayami Kojima, wouldn't have gotten the Dracula X Chronicles, which is an amazing game, or CV Chronicles. A lot of good has come from him and I think as fans of the series we need to thank him for all he's done for us.
I hope he's still part of the team, and I hope to see a new title from him in the near future
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: belmontsrock on June 09, 2009, 12:32:32 PM
Well I have a feeling that there's actually 2 Castlevanias for Next Gen Systems in production. It could be a competition between IGA and Kojima Konami is doing, so then the winner can lead the series. For example Lords of Shadow is being produced by Kojima while IGA is producing the Alucard one that they showed off in the Tokyo Game Show last year I presume.

Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: uzo on June 09, 2009, 04:48:18 PM
IGA had some big shoes to fill. I respect his efforts at keeping Castlevania afloat. He did a decent job, even if he faltered on some occasions.

IGA has a bad rap mainly because his games weren't good enough in the fan base eyes; but by what standard? By normal standards his games are great. In fact all of IGA's titles were more well made than most of the comparable games of their times. Even to the extent that they beat out some current games.

The main issue with them, is that Castlevania has a legendary reputation for quality in every sense of the word. IGA produced great games, but in some cases they did not live up to the quality Castlevania games are expected to have. This diminishes his image in the fan base.

The CV community is really one of the toughest and most brutal. I have to give him credit for trying to please the fan base, and sticking with the series despite numerous criticisms.

I think the degree that I would miss him would rely on who takes over and fills his shoes. There likely isn't many a man who can take over the reigns and surpass him that easily.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: Alutwon on June 09, 2009, 05:03:30 PM
Iga's main problem is that his games are to consistent.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: Profbeanburrito on June 09, 2009, 07:55:21 PM
In Reply To #31
I couldn't agree with you more!

I'm glad this Lords of Shadow thing has happened. It's given us all a chance to see what people think of IGA and his games, and I'm pleasantly surprised to see people arguing in favor of IGA and his works. Lets hope he knows he still has fans that support him
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: sonicabid on June 09, 2009, 08:38:01 PM
In Reply To #33

IGA has never made a bad CV game. Every single game has been great, except for CoD/PoR(I liked PoR, but I know some people around here do not. You can't say that the game is bad though, you have to at least admit it's a good/solid game. I supposed CoD has some good things about it as well, but it wasn't for me.)

How do we know he's gone though? Cause of Hideo and the new CV game? I guess I need to do some reading.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: Gunlord on June 09, 2009, 09:32:00 PM
I'll miss:

His hat

His whip

His cute lil' face ;_; No really, I'm not gay or anything, but just look at him! He always has this goofy, good-natured grin whenever you see him around. I'm gonna miss that ;_;
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: A n t r a x x on June 09, 2009, 09:38:59 PM
You can definitely tell he's a nice guy.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: crisis on June 10, 2009, 01:48:01 AM
In Reply To #35

lol iga looks like a painting come to life
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: MarquisX on June 10, 2009, 06:44:20 AM
In Reply To #31

"The CV community is really one of the toughest and most brutal. I have to give him credit for trying to please the fan base, and sticking with the series despite numerous criticisms."

Too brutal, if you ask me. So brutal to the point I wonder if some people actually smash their copies of PoR. (Which I felt is an excellent castlevania). I feel bad for IGA- this guy tries his hardest in making the ideal Castlevania for his fans and most of them crap on him. The result? LoS. it looks good and everything but if IGA is gone then we can kiss old Castlevania good bye.

And with the IGA haters- you got what you want. Instead of IGA classic inspired Castlevania- we get a reboot with no connection to the series we loved growing up with. Hopefully IGA is still around and making a new 2D castlevania for the DS.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: MarquisX on June 10, 2009, 06:52:31 AM
In Reply To #38

"IGA has a bad rap mainly because his games weren't good enough in the fan base eyes; but by what standard? By normal standards his games are great. In fact all of IGA's titles were more well made than most of the comparable games of their times. Even to the extent that they beat out some current games."

Very wise words..... We like to think that the people of a Castlevania board are the majority of the fan base when it is most likely a small fraction of the true fan base. I do know people in person who weren't fond of the PS2 games but I NEVER met or talked to a person outside of a Castlevania board that hated any of IGA's games. I love the games personally.....so much I got that cross with batwings tattooed on my arm. ;)
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: justin312 on June 10, 2009, 12:28:53 PM
The result? LoS. it looks good and everything but if IGA is gone then we can kiss old Castlevania good bye.

I have to echo The Belmont Legacy on this.  We don't know yet whether we will kiss the old Castlevania goodbye, or whether the new team will nail the atmosphere and story perfectly.  Just because IGA is gone doesn't mean another team won't produce a great Castlevania game.

And with the IGA haters- you got what you want. Instead of IGA classic inspired Castlevania- we get a reboot with no connection to the series we loved growing up with. Hopefully IGA is still around and making a new 2D castlevania for the DS.

I'll just say this.  The "classic Castlevania" that I grew up with was the original games, CV1-3 on NES and SCIV.  And in my opinion the games that IGA has been delivering for the past several years bear little resemblance to those classics, in tone and atmosphere, in story, in gameplay, challenge, etc.  Maybe this new team wanted to make a Castlevania that hearkens back to the concept and spirit of those originals.  Not all 'vania fans were weaned on Symphony of the Night, you know.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: MarquisX on June 10, 2009, 01:49:29 PM
In Reply To #40

In Reply To #41

"I have to echo The Belmont Legacy on this.  We don't know yet whether we will kiss the old Castlevania goodbye, or whether the new team will nail the atmosphere and story perfectly.  Just because IGA is gone doesn't mean another team won't produce a great Castlevania game."

That's not what I said. I am actually quite looking forward to LoS. It looks amazing and I feel a reboot would help the series. But I would like IGA, a producer who loves the series since the originals to keep making 2D games for the portables. I was talking storywise to the original timeline not atmosphere and new story. ERRR!


"I'll just say this.  The "classic Castlevania" that I grew up with was the original games, CV1-3 on NES and SCIV.  And in my opinion the games that IGA has been delivering for the past several years bear little resemblance to those classics, in tone and atmosphere, in story, in gameplay, challenge, etc.  Maybe this new team wanted to make a Castlevania that hearkens back to the concept and spirit of those originals.  Not all 'vania fans were weaned on Symphony of the Night, you know."

I know my classic Castlevanias. I played everyone since release starting with Castlevania 1 in 1987. Castlevania 1 is actually my favorite as all the games go. Once again I'm talking orginal timeline....sigh...You also think I'm against LoS when I favor it. I do not favor the end of IGA though. That's my point. And you're saying none of IGA's Castlevanias do not capture the tone and feeling of the originals? Well- that's a whole other argument which means your just not a fan of IGA. But you should be happy now, a non IGA Castlevania. The best part of this release is now the haters can stop complaining! ;) haha!

"Oh, yeah? And how do you know that? How do you know that this game won't have any connection to the past series? How do you know that Gabriel isn't a Belmont or that Dracula isn't in the game? Or that Gabriel isn't going to become Dracula similar to how Matthias became Dracula? How do you know that the castle isn't Castlevania? It was a short trailer showing areas of a few levels. "

Well Belmont Legacy....It's quite obvious it's a reboot and When the you're told "Forget everything you know about Castlevania" I'm sure they meant the story too. Maybe this new story will have Belmonts and Dracula. But if you are just going to pretend this is part of the regular series...come on.

Listen: I welcome this new Castlevania. BUt if IGA is done I will miss the the timeline he created and added onto the original NES story. It be nice if he can at least give us the 1999 game and wrap it up.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: A n t r a x x on June 10, 2009, 02:29:48 PM
...Castlevania 1 is actually my favorite as all the games go.

Wow. You're like the only one that thinks so. I mean it's great and all, but I don't think I've ever heard someone say it's their fave. Not a bad pick, just an unusual one.


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BUt if IGA is done I will miss the the timeline... It be nice if he can at least give us the 1999 game and wrap it up.

Sort of a series-finale before his show gets canceled?

Again, this topic is a "what if" question anyway. We still don't know for sure what happened to IGA. But the longer we go on without information regarding this, the more I get pissed at Konami for ignoring it.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: justin312 on June 10, 2009, 02:42:18 PM
In Reply To #42

I'm not a hater of IGA's, I am just a CV fan who thinks that IGA has brought many positives but also some negatives during his tenure as series producer.  The main positive IMO is his commitment to the 2D format, he has consistently brought us some of the best handheld games period for the last several years.  He should always be commended for that, and I too would like him to keep bringing us handheld games to complement the main series.  His major negatives IMO have been his inability to effectively bring the series into 3D, and also his handling of the overall story.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: MarquisX on June 10, 2009, 02:48:46 PM
In Reply To #43

"Wow. You're like the only one that thinks so. I mean it's great and all, but I don't think I've ever heard someone say it's their fave. Not a bad pick, just an unusual one."

Heh, yeah...I love that old classic. Played and beat it again this morning, lol. It's one of my favorites since it was my first Castlevania, it's a quick 45 minute play and it never gets old. Plus everything that is Castlevania is in that game. Of the IGA ones I'm rooting for OoE. I think it's the first game since SotN to outmatch SotN.

"Again, this topic is a "what if" question anyway. We still don't know for sure what happened to IGA. But the longer we go on without information regarding this, the more I get pissed at Konami for ignoring it. "

I hear you! His luck hasn't been so good lately. That's why I like to see fans support him instead of bash him. Despite the flaws of his games, they are still excellent games. Some people act like they were playing Dr. Jeckyll and Mr. Hyde on NES. ;)
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: MarquisX on June 10, 2009, 02:53:34 PM
In Reply To #44

"I'm not a hater of IGA's, I am just a CV fan who thinks that IGA has brought many positives but also some negatives during his tenure as series producer.  The main positive IMO is his commitment to the 2D format, he has consistently brought us some of the best handheld games period for the last several years.  He should always be commended for that, and I too would like him to keep bringing us handheld games to complement the main series.  His major negatives IMO have been his inability to effectively bring the series into 3D, and also his handling of the overall story. "

If you are a hater or not, makes no difference to me. Castlevania fans NEVER see eye to eye so I just know what I like and everyone has their opinion. Yes, he has his neagatives and more positives. But people should think where would Castlevania be today without him? We get more scrambled storied games like the N64s, Circle of the Moon's story that doesn't fit. And eventually the series would of died out. But like Antraxx said, we have to wait and see what his fate is.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: DingusBelmondo on June 10, 2009, 04:24:31 PM
I wish there was some kind of tribute all the IGA fans could make and then send him. I think he would really appreciate that kind of thing. Even though I am sure he is a wealthy man, he takes deep pride in his work, and I feel like he may get some pretty unfair criticisms. If anyone would appreciate a shout out from the fans, it's him. What is something we can all do or make together for him?
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: justin312 on June 10, 2009, 05:52:02 PM
I think one more thing that I haven't liked about IGA's tenure is the general direction of the Dracula character.  I think the initial inspiration for Castlevania was the Universal horror movies of the 30s and 40s, and then for the next few games the make of the character was influenced more strongly by the book.

But IGA seems to have been more strongly influenced by the Anne Rice vision of vampires, as beautiful and often sexually ambiguous.  This is not just because of the look of Dracula and many of the other characters, but also the awkward "bromances" and sometimes blatant homoeroticism that is present in some of his games (Harmony of Dissonance and Curse of Darkness jump to mind).  Dracula in the Stoker book was hideous, a frightening monster.  And even though the Bela Lugosi Dracula was dapper, he also had a constant menace about him; he was a hunter.  The IGA Dracula often seems like he's just bored with it all.  It just seems to me like IGA favors the Anne Rice take on vampires, which there's nothing wrong with, and I'm sure many people here like that direction better.  But personally, one of the things I am hoping that LoS does is include Dracula but present him in a way that more closely resembles the villain from the Stoker novel, and eschews the IGA "pretty boy Dracula".
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: A n t r a x x on June 10, 2009, 06:44:50 PM
I think that's more to do with Ayami Kojima than IGA.

It's her character designs after all.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: MarquisX on June 10, 2009, 07:06:46 PM
In Reply To #48

To response to justin312's description of Dracula and IGA's influences....they are kind of inaccurate. I read Bram Stoker's Dracula, he has many forms. He was old, he was a monster but then he was a young, handsome dignitary who swept Mina Harker off her feet. And as much as I love Bela Lugosi in Dracula...he wasn't all that menacing. If you want scary, watch Max Sherk in in the 1922 Nosferatu.

But anyway (I refuse to say digress! Dammit..) Alucard was more kind of modeled off Lestat from Anne Rice's books but Dracula kinda looked like "Dracula" in 18th century garb and older looks. Then he had a similar version but more wizard looking in CoD and HoD. In PoR, IGA gave Drac his classic Castlevania look which is the Bela Lugosi look (fitting for the 20th anniversary) and in OoE he had a very demonic, devil Dracula look to him. So both in Stoker's Dracula and Castlevania. If Dracula wants to be a pretty boy (though is a old man pretty?)- he does. If he wants to be a snarling monster- he does that too.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: justin312 on June 10, 2009, 07:46:30 PM
To response to justin312's description of Dracula and IGA's influences....they are kind of inaccurate. I read Bram Stoker's Dracula, he has many forms. He was old, he was a monster but then he was a young, handsome dignitary who swept Mina Harker off her feet. And as much as I love Bela Lugosi in Dracula...he wasn't all that menacing. If you want scary, watch Max Sherk in in the 1922 Nosferatu.

Sorry to make you look ignorant, but... you obviously have not read Bram Stoker's Dracula, you saw the movie Bram Stoker's Dracula by Francis Ford Coppola.  There's a big difference.  In the book, there is absolutely nothing about a romance between Mina Harker and Dracula, he didn't "sweep her off her feet", she was terrified of him from start to finish.  Coppola added that romantic subplot just for the movie, to make the story more Hollywood-friendly.  So no, what you are saying there is completely inaccurate.  But since you brought up Nosferatu with Max Schreck, most people that actually have read the novel by Bram Stoker agree that more accurately represents what Dracula was like in the book than Lugosi's version: he was hideous and frightening, not charming and sexy.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: A n t r a x x on June 10, 2009, 07:48:03 PM
I personally like sexy characters.

They go well with a sexy castle.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: A n t r a x x on June 10, 2009, 08:37:02 PM
In Reply To #52

I know this is off topic, but Antraxx, I have to ask. Why do you have Juste hanging in your signature? He is such an awesome character. He talked to both Death and Dracula as if they were children. He's such a badass.

Simply put: I don't like HoD, and Maxim was the only worthy character there. You'll note I didn't hang him.

There are far more "badass" protagonists in the series:

- Reinhardt Schneider (anyone that can rock a rat tail in armor and still look to be taken seriously is BADASS)

- Simon Belmont (anyone who gets 4 games and starts the series off is badass)

- Leon Belmont (he betrayed his religion to save his love, and at no point does he actually let his emotions get the best of him)

- Trevor Belmont (gets mortally stabbed and lives through it with no questions asked)

- Richter Belmont (item-crush, ripped-sleeve tunic, reckless attitude and surrounded by the ladies :D)

- Julius Belmont (the guy has a neckbeard. nuff said. Also as I've mentioned before, his appearance is so badass that I read his lines with Sean Connery's voice in mind)

- Carrie Fernandez (she's the most powerful thing in CV64... 'cept on hard mode)

- Maria Renard (NitM, Saturn)(with martial arts skills, a triple-jump AND uber powerful spells? She's unstoppable)

- Alucard (cold, expressionless, acts like he doesn't give a damn, can change into a wolf, dresses like a ladies man and slays his own immortal father)

- Henry (a fully-armored knight with a pistol? Need I say more?)


... so...

compared to these guys, what the hell is so special about Juste? He's entirely uninteresting to me, 'cept maybe his cool overcoat.

Carrie could drop Juste without even so much as looking at him.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: Aridale on June 10, 2009, 09:33:49 PM
In Reply To #55

...shit

The only one of those three thatd have to actually touch Juste to make him cry would be Richter. Simon or Trevor could just look at him with that "Your a Belmont Huh?" look and hed be whimperin in the corner cryin into his girly white hair.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: A n t r a x x on June 10, 2009, 09:59:36 PM
Carrie doesn't even have to LOOK at the people she kills.

Seriously.

Sorry we're getting off topic.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: MarquisX on June 11, 2009, 03:02:20 AM
In Reply To #51

"Sorry to make you look ignorant, but... you obviously have not read Bram Stoker's Dracula, you saw the movie Bram Stoker's Dracula by Francis Ford Coppola.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: cecil-kain on June 11, 2009, 07:07:28 AM
This topic has become quite a requiem.  A few of you are way ahead of yourselves; presuming that IGA is now finished.  Konami has not commented of his current role, his involvement (or lack thereof) in Kojima's new game, nor have they commented on his future producing games in the series.  It is quite possible that another game --a portable --a Wiiware --perhaps even another home console game is still in development.  The bottom line is --we don't know.  And it's about time someone is the gaming press get some hard news from Konami's PR Department on this issue.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: justin312 on June 11, 2009, 07:48:01 AM
In Reply To #51

It's been 15 years since I read Dracula so I may been mistaken. Francis Ford Coppola version does use the basic structure of the novel minus a lot of romance stuff. I just thought there was a scene with a younger Drac talking with Mina. Picked up my book and I was mistaken. Hope that makes you feel better you pretentious bastard lol. But that's your only point you get. Everything else you said is still wrong about IGA's Dracula. IGA's Dracula is a old man. You're thinking Alucard.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: MarquisX on June 11, 2009, 10:16:36 AM
In Reply To #61
Sigh...another jerk looking for a fight. I swear- you challenge anybody here- they proceed to be rude to you and when you give it back they suddenly act all self righteous. How convenient.

"I called you ignorant because you were citing a Coppola movie as a literary source.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: Giz on June 11, 2009, 10:26:30 AM
Quote
Seriously dude, its fine that you haven't read the book, but don't come here claiming you did
Get over yourself.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: MarquisX on June 11, 2009, 10:32:17 AM
In Reply To #63

"Seriously dude, its fine that you haven't read the book, but don't come here claiming you did
Get over yourself. "

Thanks man. :) Yeah, I goofed about the scene, but to think I am lying about reading a book? And he wonders why I called him pretentious.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: justin312 on June 11, 2009, 11:10:54 AM
In Reply To #62

Not trying to look for an argument or be rude.  The only thing I said was that based on your comments I didn't think you read the book, so I thought that contradicting someone else's points who had read it was ignorant.  You talk about me being rude, but I'm not the one hurling insults here and name-calling, you are.  But whatever, I'll take your word for it that you read it, OK?  Peace.

But my original point was not that I think his characters are all based off Anne Rice, just that he seems to me to take much more inspiration from the Anne Rice vision than the Stoker vision.  Thats all I was saying. 

And to your statement of "And BTW, get your self checked out- that fetish finding a video game villain sexy doesn't sound mentally healthy"... I don't find video game characters sexy.  And I also don't understand why homoerotic undertones need to be added to some of these video games (like CoD and HoD).  Thats another reason that makes me think IGA is more a fan of Rice's than of Stoker's.  So maybe IGA is the one who needs to get himself checked out if that fetish stuff isn't mentally healthy.


Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: Gunlord on June 11, 2009, 11:40:59 PM
In Reply To #65

Er...friend Justin, that may just be a marketing thing. In japan, from what I understand, 'beautiful' guys are actually considered sexy and desirable. So perhaps the folks at Konami were just trying to increase their games' sex appeals in the hopes of selling more copies. ^^
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: Clara E. Leet on June 12, 2009, 12:41:13 AM
Marquis - Justin's statements were fairly justified. You posted statements that directly contradicted your claim of reading the novel and he pointed them out. Posting up Wiki Copypasta didn't help your case any further and again, he pointed it out.

Your defensive statements and namecalling are not called for, and I highly recommend that you let them stop here and now, and continue on with the conversation a bit more maturely.

Also, the board has quote tags. Learn to use them.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: justin312 on June 12, 2009, 06:23:26 AM
How about we just drop it, OK?  I'm here to discuss Castlevania, not get in online arguments with people.  I should have dropped it after the initial post, so for that I apologize.  My intention was not to start an argument or make anyone look stupid.  Sorry about that, MarquisX.

And Giz, you really ought to go and read through some of your posts before you criticize the tone of others.  You come off as rude and condescending to anyone that doesn't agree with your opinion.  Just sayin'.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: Clara E. Leet on June 12, 2009, 02:44:32 PM
In Reply To #68

Don't worry about Giz, he's taking a little bit of a vacation.

For the rest of you, please carry on. Back on topic, nothing else to see here.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: RichterB on June 12, 2009, 03:30:42 PM
The random, "cool" chairs you can collect and/or sit in, right? ...I kid, I kid.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: MarquisX on June 13, 2009, 05:04:14 AM
In Reply To #68

"How about we just drop it, OK?
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: Gecko on June 13, 2009, 09:16:40 AM
I will miss this:
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg389.imageshack.us%2Fimg389%2F8420%2F31586162.gif&hash=7fc2193bf1005f430f8bcd0c85a848ab)
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: Clara E. Leet on June 13, 2009, 11:22:49 AM
In Reply To #71

Like that? I don't think this concerns you, thank you. I really have nothing to say to you.

Talking back to moderation. Consider this your final warning, then.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: GrantDaMummy on June 13, 2009, 11:47:04 AM
If IGA is gone I'll miss having any new 2-d and portable games...

I'll miss charming apologetic manner when things don't go successful for him. I'll also miss his willingness to change his mind if its for the betterment of the series.

I'll miss the fact he was willing to discuss things with the fans one on one. I will also miss his attempts to give gifts to the fans for being loyal to the series over the years.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: A n t r a x x on June 13, 2009, 02:06:46 PM
I will miss this:
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg389.imageshack.us%2Fimg389%2F8420%2F31586162.gif&hash=7fc2193bf1005f430f8bcd0c85a848ab)

Where the hell did you find this?

That is awesome xD
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: A n t r a x x on June 13, 2009, 02:50:05 PM
Oh I found it :D

http://kotaku.com/5132591/take-your-simon-belmont-to-work-day

I think this one is even better, cuz it shows it was all premeditated:

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fkotaku.com%2Fassets%2Fimages%2Fgallery%2F9%2F2009%2F01%2Fmedium_3201139390_db70d37a60_o.jpg&hash=9da0acac7da708daf7dbdabc6341b450)
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: Gecko on June 13, 2009, 02:56:06 PM
In Reply To #76

Yep! That's where I found it.

Although I think someone else posted the picture in a topic here a long while back. I don't remember too well though.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: Thomas Belmont on June 13, 2009, 03:57:07 PM
I will miss this:
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg389.imageshack.us%2Fimg389%2F8420%2F31586162.gif&hash=7fc2193bf1005f430f8bcd0c85a848ab)


Appears to me that that was the only way Iga could get people to test his games.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: A n t r a x x on June 13, 2009, 04:10:25 PM
In Reply To #78

Yeah and that guy thinks the whip feels better than that torture.

Look -- he's getting off on it.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: Oralox on June 13, 2009, 06:14:53 PM
In Reply To #78

You think that guy was testing out alucard game?
Notice 360 controller.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: GrantDaMummy on June 13, 2009, 06:34:22 PM
There are even worse pictures in the photoshoot...lol. like IGA standing around whipping or assisting to whip a half-nude Dracula cosplayer with the help of Simon cosplayer.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: A n t r a x x on June 14, 2009, 04:47:10 PM
In Reply To #78

You think that guy was testing out alucard game?
Notice 360 controller.

Very good eyes! I didn't notice that at first. I was too preoccupied with the silliness of the pic.

That's definitely a 360 controller. But maybe the guy was just goofing off playing games and that's why IGA came by and whipped him into shape.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: uzo on June 15, 2009, 01:37:18 PM
In Reply To #80

That's what came to mind for me as well.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: Thomas Belmont on June 16, 2009, 07:48:29 AM
I don't own a 360 so I wouldn't know but are you guys sure it isn't a third-party PS2 controller? This may be an older picture.

Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: Clara E. Leet on June 16, 2009, 09:48:44 AM
In Reply To #84

Yup. That battery pack and the analog stick positions and the button colors are unmistakable.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: Kamirine on June 17, 2009, 08:28:50 PM
LMAO @ Those pics.

I'll miss my hand held Castlevania. And IGA is generally a nice guy in person, so I've got nothing bad to say about him. And I'll miss his crazy hair days when he didn't have a brush and it was like, all over the damn place.

His 2D games never bothered me and Judgment was actually fun, even with the questionable artwork. And as for as his storyline goes, to each his own. I liked some of the things he came up with.
Title: Re: What will you miss about IGA?
Post by: Dark Nemesis on June 18, 2009, 09:49:33 AM
Here comes the revenge ;D:

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimagehoster.milkman.gr%2Ffiles%2Fu86tyalpvk9p1ixtmgrg.jpg&hash=6fb11a149671dd4d976ba8c6657a91e3)