The Castlevania Dungeon Forums => General Castlevania Discussion => Classic Castlevania Threads => Topic started by: Lumi Kløvstad on December 19, 2015, 11:14:58 PM
Title: With Which Whip Would You Whip?
Post by: Lumi Kløvstad on December 19, 2015, 11:14:58 PM
Choose your weapon, but choose wisely.
I'd choose the Hunter's Whip, despite it being a hindrance early on with a lack of power. The powers it unlocks as it is used and you progress through the adventure make it adaptable to almost any situation.
Make your choice.
Title: Re: With Which Whip Would You Whip?
Post by: VladCT on December 19, 2015, 11:55:23 PM
The OG VK of course. If you're good all you need to compensate for its lack of adaptability are subweapons.
Title: Re: With Which Whip Would You Whip?
Post by: X on December 20, 2015, 01:16:29 AM
The Vampirekiller. I essentially view CotM's hunter whip as the vampierkiller from an alternate universe sequel game and that Nathan graves is the grandson of Richter. So in this case I vote the Vampirekiller over the combat cross. The combat cross looks awesome, but it is weak as hell (not just because of the sponge enemies).
Title: Re: With Which Whip Would You Whip?
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on December 20, 2015, 01:52:13 AM
Nothing beats the original!
Title: Re: With Which Whip Would You Whip?
Post by: theplottwist on December 20, 2015, 02:26:12 AM
I feel the Vampire Killer can't be rivaled.
In terms of combat, it can hurt pretty much any foe for huge damage, can block projecticles and can evolve to become even stronger and longer.
In terms of adaptability it can cling to things to allow for swinging, even unclingable surfaces if we consider Bloodlines and take the gameplay mechanic at face value. It can be used to light dark places if we consider it can produce fire (Rondo), or lightning (Bloodlines). Though if these are qualities of the wielder channeled through the whip or from the whip itself is debatable. But I assume these are qualities from the whip, seeing as it is made from alchemy and can supposedly change forms due to this. Furthermore, in Portrait, Jonathan can use the "Critical Art" which specifies that it unlocks the weapon's hidden power - and the Vampire Killer's is producing fire.
Sure, the Hunter Whip is powerful, but I ask you: What did you see the Hunter Whip do that it was something it could do by itself? Extend? Burn? Nope. These are the powers of the cards. The Hunter Whip alone is long and can block projecticles, but that's it. Without the cards, the Hunter Whip is reduced to nothing more than a standard whip. The Vampire Killer does what the Hunter Whip can only dream of doing and more.
The Combat Cross is a LOT more versatile, but I really don't feel like whipping skeletons one billion times to destroy them. The VK has these bases covered.
Title: Re: With Which Whip Would You Whip?
Post by: Lumi Kløvstad on December 20, 2015, 10:20:01 AM
I view the DSS cards as just a gameplay element-- they represent the powers that a given wielder has available to them acquired through mastery of the weapon. There's nothing to suggest that they actually exist as physical objects in-game (nothing in the way of dialog, for instance).
And no one can deny that once the full power of the Hunter Whip is unlocked, it can pretty much destroy EVERYTHING with very little effort.
Damage sponge or not, everything falls in short order to the full power of the Hunter Whip. You don't NEED subweapons as this thing grows in power.
Title: Re: With Which Whip Would You Whip?
Post by: zangetsu468 on January 17, 2016, 01:07:33 AM
Archer, myself, my VK and a set of tarot cards will whip yo' whips' ass! ;P
Title: Re: With Which Whip Would You Whip?
Post by: BLOOD MONKEY on January 17, 2016, 07:06:14 AM
Hunter Whip, because of the reasons archer already stated.
:)
Title: Re: With Which Whip Would You Whip?
Post by: Hiryu on January 17, 2016, 08:00:57 AM
It was tempting to go with the classic vampire killer, but I was recalling images of either leather material or chain-linked with a spiked ball at the end. I'd rather fight the beasties with something more wicked like the combat cross. (Lords of Shadow though, <shudder>)
Title: Re: With Which Whip Would You Whip?
Post by: JayDominus on February 25, 2016, 02:44:26 AM
Combat Cross because it also makes for a nice stabbing weapon.
Title: Re: With Which Whip Would You Whip?
Post by: Lelygax on February 25, 2016, 07:39:07 AM
Say yes to VK(s)!
Title: Re: With Which Whip Would You Whip?
Post by: zangetsu468 on February 25, 2016, 06:40:43 PM
It also depends, are we slaying monsters or our own personal desires? I don't recommend the CX for personal use ;/
Title: Re: With Which Whip Would You Whip?
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on February 25, 2016, 08:46:52 PM
Hunter whip definitely, it can do so much more than the Vampire Killer such as become many types of swords,a hammer, a Katana, even a freaken gun.
I'd give the base power to the vampire killer though, the Hunter whip without its powerup through cards pales in comparison, but with the cards? The Hunter whip pwns.
Title: Re: With Which Whip Would You Whip?
Post by: Belmont Stakes on June 19, 2016, 07:09:35 PM
I don't know jack about the Hunter's Whip. I was a 14 year old when I first was introduced to the original Vampire Killer whip.
When I was just 14 I beat CV with such ease. I used a very good whip killing deadly foes such as these. Bats, ghouls, knights and owls up in trees. You could even whip from your knees and beat Dracula with such ease. :'( :'( :'(
I was so young. sigh
Of course now I would have to go with the new Vampire Killer on the Combat Cross as there is more functionality.
Still I will never forget the classic.
Title: Re: With Which Whip Would You Whip?
Post by: Guy Belmont on June 19, 2016, 07:20:58 PM
Id Choose the all Power Vampire Killer the Sorcery Whip. I do feel that some parts of its story that do bother me, but to me I just think of the story I gave it, that always does the trick.
It's a great weapon The best ever made, there is non more powerful, and it can adapt too, it can be swung on or used as a shield, by spinning it, or can shoot fire balls, and it can be transformed from leather to chain growing in power and hight, and by attaching things to it can be transformed even more. so id say the Vampire Killer is beyond any weapon in AD and any real hunter can make it work for him by becoming one with it, And using it Unmatched power.
The Hunter whip is like its weaker Brother, a great weapon but no Vampire Killer. Combat cross is great but lacks any real power so... yeah. the Vampire Killer is the winner here.
also there is the undead killer and Langs holy whip, But they never get a mention.
I can't remember were I saw it but was the vampire killer going to be a sword at first, but they couldn't make it look good so they went for a whip instead.
Title: Re: With Which Whip Would You Whip?
Post by: X on June 19, 2016, 10:47:53 PM
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I can't remember were I saw it but was the vampire killer going to be a sword at first, but they couldn't make it look good so they went for a whip instead.
I heard this as well. Supposedly a sword was difficult to program for some odd reason so they chose a whip instead. I'm still trying to figure their logic out on that one...
Title: Re: With Which Whip Would You Whip?
Post by: Guy Belmont on June 20, 2016, 12:54:08 PM
Well I think when Simon is in mid whip it looks a bit like they were trying to get it to look like a sword, but it just would not come out right. And it looks a bit like rubber, so they must have thought ok lets make it a whip like Indiana Jones, or Vampire Hunter D.
Title: Re: With Which Whip Would You Whip?
Post by: KaZudra on July 27, 2016, 02:17:56 PM
TBH LoI's Vampire killer (and CoTM) are potentially the most powerful whips in the entire series. Ironically, Castlevania rather downplays the full power of a whip, it can generate sonic booms faster than guile on a turbo controller
Title: Re: With Which Whip Would You Whip?
Post by: Belmontoya on July 27, 2016, 02:28:16 PM
If you're counting LOS stuff they shadow whip should be on here, eh?
Title: Re: With Which Whip Would You Whip?
Post by: Lumi Kløvstad on July 28, 2016, 06:25:38 PM
If you're counting LOS stuff they shadow whip should be on here, eh?
Thing one: it's less useful overall than the Combat Cross (no added mobility or ability to really grapple). Thing two: only Gabriel Belmont can use it (it's not really something you could "pick up" and use). Thing three: It's not even really a whip. It's Gabe's blood.
Now I considered including the "Dark Pain" whip Alucard used in Mirror of Fate, but seeing as it's portrayed as being functionally identical to a mass produced Combat Cross (just with extra eeeeeeeeeviiiiiiil included), I elected not to as it would be a redundant entry. It does look fucking sweet though.