Topic: Crazy Idea for a game

[Lelygax]

 Please, don't laugh 

 But I thought about a area/map that happens inside your mind/soul and you need to explore and battle a boss inside it. Imagine the Nightmare from SOTN, but its not only a room, its a explorable area and should bear some importance for the story. You will free yourself from a great evil that otherwise would control your body totally and can even trigger a bad ending if you tried to finish the game without doing this "meditation" thing. 

 I've thought about using this idea to introduce the Kischine family and oriental things to CV universe, like how Jiang Shi popped in Romania to start with. 

 I'm afraid of saying all the rest of my idea and plot since I've trouble to believe (give confidence) to people (I've been backstabbed so many times IRL). When I feel ready I'll tell all the rest. 

 What I want to know is: Its doable for a CV game? Even if its included in a remake that have already a similar plot? Or it sounds stupid and I was right in hiding this idea in my mind? I've thought about that since I joined the forum (KaZ gave this idea to me, not directly or with words, but he inspired me before joining here). 

 If you mix all the pieces you should know exactly what I plan to do, but for now its better to receive a feedback before putting my horses ahead and be disappointed afterwards because my idea isn't interesting. 

 Please, talk the truth but with care, this really means a lot to me (like anyone that have a idea and thinks its one of the best ideas he/she ever had). 

edit: corrected a typo.

[Inccubus]

Sounds like it could be interesting.

[KaZudra]

I wanna hear the Rest...

The Nightmare Room with Plot Sounds great, especially given a dream world you can do all kinds of Crazy Stuff.

Eastern Implementation is Brilliant, I want to either remake or make a crossover with Getsu Fuuma in the Future (Spoiler: I planned for Fuuma to be a secret Stage and character in a certain hiatus game)

Castlevania as a "genre" in in need for fresh new ideas

[kaonstantine]

It's not stupid, sounds like a good idea to me. I always wanted (still want) to do a game with more than one good ending. E.g. not completing the "nightmare" would not necessarily lead you to a bad ending, but a different one, maybe a more interesting ending than 'default' ending. Even you could offer exclusive items only available if you do "anti-heroic" tasks (*evil laugh*)

What do you mean by oriental things? I myself am considering to introduce anime and movie references in my project, but still not sure. I think almost everything is doable if you have the talent to do it, but i guess a totally new game is better place to experiment with untapped & "revolutionary" ideas. However, the choice is yours. If it's a valuable idea to you, go for it. That way you will know if it's a good or bad idea.

[X]

Give it a shot. Nothing to lose right? 

[Shiroi Koumori]

Hmmm... Ninjas come from Japan.
And Jiang Shi is Chinese in origin....
They might have entered Europe via the Silk Road.

[Lelygax]

I wanna hear the Rest...

The Nightmare Room with Plot Sounds great, especially given a dream world you can do all kinds of Crazy Stuff.

Eastern Implementation is Brilliant, I want to either remake or make a crossover with Getsu Fuuma in the Future (Spoiler: I planned for Fuuma to be a secret Stage and character in a certain hiatus game)

Castlevania as a "genre" in in need for fresh new ideas

I've not really thought about a Dream World (it sounds really cool, they should do more games using that aspect), I thought more about like a trip to your inner world. Imagine that AoS final area, its done in a bad way since they only glued random rooms, it seems that they tried to expand the Nightmare aspect (they even used grayed colors again) but instead of doing something new they reused things.

I think that I know of what hiatus game you are talking about xD

It's not stupid, sounds like a good idea to me. I always wanted (still want) to do a game with more than one good ending. E.g. not completing the "nightmare" would not necessarily lead you to a bad ending, but a different one, maybe a more interesting ending than 'default' ending. Even you could offer exclusive items only available if you do "anti-heroic" tasks (*evil laugh*)

What do you mean by oriental things? I myself am considering to introduce anime and movie references in my project, but still not sure. I think almost everything is doable if you have the talent to do it, but i guess a totally new game is better place to experiment with untapped & "revolutionary" ideas. However, the choice is yours. If it's a valuable idea to you, go for it. That way you will know if it's a good or bad idea.

I love alternate endings, Silent Hill did good things in that aspect, they even did funny ones.

In oriental things I mean these already in the CV universe (like Jiang Shi, the Kischine family as ninjas, oriental weapons, etc.), I dont plan to exagerate and make it become Sailorvania (I love Sailor Moon BTW, but thats unrelated xD).

Hmmm... Ninjas come from Japan.
And Jiang Shi is Chinese in origin....
They might have entered Europe via the Silk Road.

My thoughts didnt reached the geographical part yet, but that seems interesting.

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Okay, I feel ready to spill the beans, you guys/gals gave the confidence that I needed. My hints were: Kischine family (so it must have happened before HoD, its the major hint), KaZ inspired me (so it was something to do with one of KaZ projects that he worked before I joined the forums), Romania (so it happens in Romania), remake (so its a remake from a already existing game) and free yourself from a great evil.

If you already knew before reading this, congratulations. If you knows now, you still did a good job and if you still dont know, you will discover in this spoiler along with more info xD

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Castlevania 2: Simon's Quest

Yes, I plan to do a remake of this game, but like a lot of people that already tried, I can fail at doing that, so here are my ideas and thoughts.

Why Simon's doesnt use the VK whip since the beggining? Why he need to use all these shitty whips if he is a experienced vampire hunter? Why he needs to gather all sub-weapons again and they are so weak at the start? What is the curse after all and why Dracula never used it again in a Belmont if thats so effective? Who's the misty girl and why he knews about Simon's situation even before him? Why Dracula's body is scattered all over the place like that? Why huge mansions if there is no important human or Vampire living in it? Simon is the first Belmont to use a flame whip right? So where the flame whip technique came?

I plan to answer almost all these questions in my own way, even if it sounds absurd and totally fanon (its a fangame after all, so it is fanon anyway unless you stick totally to the original material, which would like more like a remaster than a fan remake).

I plan to give each mansion to a powerful vampire, Carmilla, Olrox, Elizabeth Bartley (yes, the original, not the reincarnation, so no drolta involved, maybe a ancestor) and maybe some another big like Jiang Shi. It needs to be a powerful vampire that dont acts like a wild animal wanting blood or souls. I plan to give a abandoned mansion to Death if needed, maybe he killed the boss before you, who knows.

I plan to make the misty girl be Laura (I warned that stupid looking things could be said be me), he is not bad nor a monster yet, he knew about the curse because someone else said it to her, this someone else will be in the game.

Since I like mystery games, I plan to involve a plot where some vampires plan to overthrow Dracula reign while others wanna bring him back, in the middle will be the ones that want to bring him back in secret, only pretending to be helping this new mastermind.

The flame whip will be a technique imbued in the Vampire Killer, it will be like a bonus for freeing yourself from Dracula's curse with your own strength and before setting their body parts in fire, after all...

Its a trick! The same person that warned Laura about the curse, wants to bring Dracula back, this person plans to make Simon's body in the new Dracula vessel, since this person knews that Dracula's relics could corrupt people souls/hearts, and tha Simon in the current state could be vulnerable.

In the worst ending Dracula consumes your soul, control totally your body and use it to regain his strength and revive completely with the blood of everyone he finds in his way. Without Simon to protect his world, Dracula wins the game.

This will enable a bonus mode (totally for fun, not related), where TA-DAM!

Konami man will sense that something is really wrong in the fabric of the CV universe and will travel to discover whats happening, this side-story will happen following the worst ending scenario. Maybe his sub-weapons can be some classic Konami chars, maybe it can be even Kid Dracula that warned Konami man that the future was being affected lol
Since its a side-story, you will only interact with it in the bonus mode and only a warning like "You unlocked a bonus mode" would appear after the credits. Also I plan to make Konami man a very secret boss, if you win he will tell that you are being tricked be someone and give you some item, maybe a retro outfit lol

I should explain more things (yes, I have more!) or this would be a bad thing? If you check some question, I've some answers to give yet.

edit: I expect to not be robbing some ideas from KaZ or someone else, I dont plan to disrespect anyone.

[darkmanx_429]

I've not really thought about a Dream World (it sounds really cool, they should do more games using that aspect), I thought more about like a trip to your inner world. Imagine that AoS final area, its done in a bad way since they only glued random rooms, it seems that they tried to expand the Nightmare aspect (they even used grayed colors again) but instead of doing something new they reused things.

I think that I know of what hiatus game you are talking about xD

I love alternate endings, Silent Hill did good things in that aspect, they even did funny ones.

In oriental things I mean these already in the CV universe (like Jiang Shi, the Kischine family as ninjas, oriental weapons, etc.), I dont plan to exagerate and make it become Sailorvania (I love Sailor Moon BTW, but thats unrelated xD).

My thoughts didnt reached the geographical part yet, but that seems interesting.

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Okay, I feel ready to spill the beans, you guys/gals gave the confidence that I needed. My hints were: Kischine family (so it must have happened before HoD, its the major hint), KaZ inspired me (so it was something to do with one of KaZ projects that he worked before I joined the forums), Romania (so it happens in Romania), remake (so its a remake from a already existing game) and free yourself from a great evil.

If you already knew before reading this, congratulations. If you knows now, you still did a good job and if you still dont know, you will discover in this spoiler along with more info xD

(click to show/hide)

Castlevania 2: Simon's Quest

Yes, I plan to do a remake of this game, but like a lot of people that already tried, I can fail at doing that, so here are my ideas and thoughts.

Why Simon's doesnt use the VK whip since the beggining? Why he need to use all these shitty whips if he is a experienced vampire hunter? Why he needs to gather all sub-weapons again and they are so weak at the start? What is the curse after all and why Dracula never used it again in a Belmont if thats so effective? Who's the misty girl and why he knews about Simon's situation even before him? Why Dracula's body is scattered all over the place like that? Why huge mansions if there is no important human or Vampire living in it? Simon is the first Belmont to use a flame whip right? So where the flame whip technique came?

I plan to answer almost all these questions in my own way, even if it sounds absurd and totally fanon (its a fangame after all, so it is fanon anyway unless you stick totally to the original material, which would like more like a remaster than a fan remake).

I plan to give each mansion to a powerful vampire, Carmilla, Olrox, Elizabeth Bartley (yes, the original, not the reincarnation, so no drolta involved, maybe a ancestor) and maybe some another big like Jiang Shi. It needs to be a powerful vampire that dont acts like a wild animal wanting blood or souls. I plan to give a abandoned mansion to Death if needed, maybe he killed the boss before you, who knows.

I plan to make the misty girl be Laura (I warned that stupid looking things could be said be me), he is not bad nor a monster yet, he knew about the curse because someone else said it to her, this someone else will be in the game.

Since I like mystery games, I plan to involve a plot where some vampires plan to overthrow Dracula reign while others wanna bring him back, in the middle will be the ones that want to bring him back in secret, only pretending to be helping this new mastermind.

The flame whip will be a technique imbued in the Vampire Killer, it will be like a bonus for freeing yourself from Dracula's curse with your own strength and before setting their body parts in fire, after all...

Its a trick! The same person that warned Laura about the curse, wants to bring Dracula back, this person plans to make Simon's body in the new Dracula vessel, since this person knews that Dracula's relics could corrupt people souls/hearts, and tha Simon in the current state could be vulnerable.

In the worst ending Dracula consumes your soul, control totally your body and use it to regain his strength and revive completely with the blood of everyone he finds in his way. Without Simon to protect his world, Dracula wins the game.

This will enable a bonus mode (totally for fun, not related), where TA-DAM!

Konami man will sense that something is really wrong in the fabric of the CV universe and will travel to discover whats happening, this side-story will happen following the worst ending scenario. Maybe his sub-weapons can be some classic Konami chars, maybe it can be even Kid Dracula that warned Konami man that the future was being affected lol
Since its a side-story, you will only interact with it in the bonus mode and only a warning like "You unlocked a bonus mode" would appear after the credits. Also I plan to make Konami man a very secret boss, if you win he will tell that you are being tricked be someone and give you some item, maybe a retro outfit lol

I should explain more things (yes, I have more!) or this would be a bad thing? If you check some question, I've some answers to give yet.

edit: I expect to not be robbing some ideas from KaZ or someone else, I dont plan to disrespect anyone.

I like all this...

[Pfil]

I like this idea and I'd like it to become a game.

[Shiroi Koumori]

Lely, go for it!

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As for this: Since I like mystery games, I plan to involve a plot where some vampires plan to overthrow Dracula reign while others wanna bring him back, in the middle will be the ones that want to bring him back in secret, only pretending to be helping this new mastermind.

I would suggest that the one who wants to overthrow Dracula is Olrox (see Ricordanza). The rest could bring him back.

[Lelygax]

Lely, go for it!

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As for this: Since I like mystery games, I plan to involve a plot where some vampires plan to overthrow Dracula reign while others wanna bring him back, in the middle will be the ones that want to bring him back in secret, only pretending to be helping this new mastermind.

I would suggest that the one who wants to overthrow Dracula is Olrox (see Ricordanza). The rest could bring him back.

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That is my plan, you've seen throught it xD

I will answer more unanswered questions now, since some days have passed and no one said anything like "keep these secrets to you for now" or something like that.

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Simon will not be using the VK whip nor her subs because Dracula's curse is corrupting him, so the VK whip doesnt want to be used be him anymore, since its not a mind control, but his really being corrupted (inb4 its more or less inspired from these shitty nintendo books "words of power" or something like that, also inspired in Maxim situation in HoD). Also he disposed from his original subs because they've all lost his power, because he is holding them with him while cursed and while time passed, their power faded.

So when he is gathering sub-weapons again, he is doing that because he cant use his original ones, they are like corrupted.

So the curse is like that, it doesnt let Simon heal from serious wounds and weakens him, while at the same time tries to corrupts his soul and eventually kill him, atleats the "him" that we all know.

The ritual for the flame-whip is like a cleansing ritual that came from Asia, where the user will try to evoke holy powers to its own body, but its not everyone body that can sustain that, and if the person mind and body isnt strong enough, he dies. At the same time the person gain more resistance against curses (most if its ocidental magic, it seems that different types of magic doesnt mix very well and seems to disturb each other), that can be passed after from father to son and so after on. So thats why Dracula doesnt used the same curse again, because it simply would not work again against him.

The last main question to answer is: Why Dracula's body is scattered all over the place, outisde his castle?

Well, its all Olrox idea (with his own motives behind them), if Simon will eventually die if time passes, they need to buy some time and grant that he dont burn all Dracula's parts AND even if he acquire all of them, they plan to use him as a sacrifice. So Olrox created a splendid plan that have plans B, C and so on.

A) Curse kills Simon.
B) Simon is killed in the journey.
C) Simon gather all body parts, that corrupts him faster and he is turned in a Dracula's Vessel
D) Simon gather all body parts, burns them and wins against Dracula, but everything is really fixed, Dracula's curse was really undone, even so, its undone at time?

[Belmontoya]

It sounds like a cool idea. Is this perhaps a part of Simons curse that he finds himself battling this inner demon in his mind throughout the game?

Also. Dracula's body parts were scattered because this was a way of ensuring that he would not rise from the grave. I think this is something that was really done with the bodies of those thought to be a vampire.

[Lelygax]

It sounds like a cool idea. Is this perhaps a part of Simons curse that he finds himself battling this inner demon in his mind throughout the game?

Yes.

Also. Dracula's body parts were scattered because this was a way of ensuring that he would not rise from the grave. I think this is something that was really done with the bodies of those thought to be a vampire.

Well, that sounds cool since I've never heard about that. But that doesnt make SQ ending contradictory? Since Simon buried Dracula in the end? lol

[Belmontoya]

Haha yes. That's part of problem with vampires. There's all sorts of contradictions. Some can walk in the sun, while some get destroyed by it, ect.

I'm not sure if that's why his body parts were scattered or not in SQ. that's just a way of prevent vampires from returning from the dead that I have heard of.

[Lelygax]

Well, its good to know more about these things even if they are contradictory, we had a thread talking about why vampires doesnt appears in mirrors when I first joined here, it was a pretty good discussion