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Re: Plots that can still be used in IGA's timeline
« Reply #60 on: July 04, 2012, 07:50:32 PM »
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Even if it was divine power.

Although ironically, even though AoS considers it a Holy element, Vampire Killer should TECHNICALLY be a Dark element considering it was created from the soul of a Vampire.
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« Reply #61 on: July 04, 2012, 09:28:20 PM »
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Hey, they accused a doctor who used nothing but freakin' herbs of witchcraft. As far as I'm concerned, all it takes is someone pointing at you and shouting "WITCH!" to get the mob on your ass, even if you just saved said person's ass.
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Re: Plots that can still be used in IGA's timeline
« Reply #62 on: July 04, 2012, 10:57:54 PM »
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Hey, they accused a doctor who used nothing but freakin' herbs of witchcraft. As far as I'm concerned, all it takes is someone pointing at you and shouting "WITCH!" to get the mob on your ass, even if you just saved said person's ass.
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Exactly, and it was coined 'The Witch Craze'
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Re: Plots that can still be used in IGA's timeline
« Reply #63 on: July 05, 2012, 09:37:35 PM »
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Even if it was divine power.

Although ironically, even though AoS considers it a Holy element, Vampire Killer should TECHNICALLY be a Dark element considering it was created from the soul of a Vampire.
It might just be my own strange reasoning, but I always saw the whole ritual to create the VK as purifying the vampire soul through transmutation, changing it from something that was dark into something that was holy.

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Re: Plots that can still be used in IGA's timeline
« Reply #64 on: July 06, 2012, 04:02:26 PM »
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makes sense I guess
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Re: Plots that can still be used in IGA's timeline
« Reply #65 on: July 06, 2012, 07:42:35 PM »
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Even if it was divine power.

Although ironically, even though AoS considers it a Holy element, Vampire Killer should TECHNICALLY be a Dark element considering it was created from the soul of a Vampire.
It might just be my own strange reasoning, but I always saw the whole ritual to create the VK as purifying the vampire soul through transmutation, changing it from something that was dark into something that was holy.

I brought up this point a year or two ago and people got pissed as if I committed blasphemy.  It's odd.  If you ask me, it should be neither holy or dark.  Just because it destroys vampires and all creatures connected to them doesn't make it holy.  I mean yes the sub weapons are holy, but not the whip.  I think people call holy because it's very effective against dark entities and is wielded by devout christians. 

Oh, and to be accurate, Sara wasn't a vampire yet.  She was bitten, but she was still technically human.  She hadn't changed yet.
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Re: Plots that can still be used in IGA's timeline
« Reply #66 on: July 08, 2012, 12:55:02 AM »
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We call it Holy because Aria of Sorrow considers the whip a Holy Element if you get hit by it in the Julius Belmont fight.
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« Reply #67 on: July 08, 2012, 12:21:49 PM »
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I brought up this point a year or two ago and people got pissed as if I committed blasphemy.  It's odd.  If you ask me, it should be neither holy or dark.  Just because it destroys vampires and all creatures connected to them doesn't make it holy.  I mean yes the sub weapons are holy, but not the whip.  I think people call holy because it's very effective against dark entities and is wielded by devout christians. 

It's okay. I always thought of the whip not being holy, but being Mystical. The Mystic whip is what many of us referred to it whenever we talked of Casltevania. It was a whip with magical powers. That same magical power that flows through the veins of the Belmonts. It was only until IGA came along that it became something else all-together.
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Re: Plots that can still be used in IGA's timeline
« Reply #68 on: July 08, 2012, 02:18:14 PM »
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The Mystic whip is what many of us referred to it whenever we talked of Casltevania. It was only until IGA came along that it became something else all-together.

Wait, what are you talking about? Everyone since the 90's Angelfire days referred to it as the Vampire Killer. The whip was already called Vampire Killer before SotN.



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Re: Plots that can still be used in IGA's timeline
« Reply #69 on: July 08, 2012, 02:39:16 PM »
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damn u iga for making bloodlines canon

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Re: Plots that can still be used in IGA's timeline
« Reply #70 on: July 09, 2012, 01:48:20 AM »
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he means magical, but not of any particular good or evil alignment
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« Reply #71 on: July 09, 2012, 10:02:56 AM »
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Wait, what are you talking about? Everyone since the 90's Angelfire days referred to it as the Vampire Killer. The whip was already called Vampire Killer before SotN.

Yes I know. Bloodlines was the first to come along and proclaim it. And IGA was also the one to coin it throughout his games too. Before that it was just a magical weapon with no real title. It was either Mystical whip or Morning Star Whip.
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Re: Plots that can still be used in IGA's timeline
« Reply #72 on: July 09, 2012, 11:16:49 AM »
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Actually, Rondo of Blood was the first to coin it, so Bloodlines and other subsequent games were just following that precedent. It's not as radical as you make it out to be.

And IGA was also the one to coin it throughout his games too.

Not really. His second game, Castlevania Chronicles, referred to it as just 'the mysterious whip.'

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Re: Plots that can still be used in IGA's timeline
« Reply #73 on: July 09, 2012, 02:32:20 PM »
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A game about a young Simon Belmont as he takes down various monsters in Europe, readying his skills for his fateful battle with Dracula.

Or a post-Lament game about Dracula asserting his dominance over the vampires of Europe, as he truly becomes the Dark Lord.
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Re: Plots that can still be used in IGA's timeline
« Reply #74 on: July 09, 2012, 06:14:41 PM »
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Not really. His second game, Castlevania Chronicles, referred to it as just 'the mysterious whip.'

That's because it came out before 'Rondo' on the X68000 computer ;)  But like you saud Rondo was the first to call it Vampirekiller so I'll retract my statement about bloodlines and agree with you... I had forgotten about Rondo completely when I wrote that  :P
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