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http://playeressence.com/wayforward-wants-to-make-a-2d-castlevania-game/ (http://playeressence.com/wayforward-wants-to-make-a-2d-castlevania-game/)
WayForward would “love” to work on a 2D Castlevania game, but that is “entirely up to Konami,” according to WayForward. The talented studio tweeted this message in response to a fan question.
Source: WayForward Twitter, Thanks Anti!
Dengo @DENGOJIN Mar 8
@WayForward have you considered about making a side scrolling Castlevania ?
WayForward@WayForward
@DENGOJIN We’d love to work on Castlevania but that’s entirely up to @Konami
After the slight letdown of Castlevania Lords of Shadow 2, I think it’s time for Konami to make an awesome 2D Castlevania again. Alucard as the main character, prequel to Symphony of the Night. Or how about a sequel to Order of Ecclesia?
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Double Dragon Neon and Ducktales have me convinced that WayForward can do no wrong.
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http://playeressence.com/wayforward-wants-to-make-a-2d-castlevania-game/ (http://playeressence.com/wayforward-wants-to-make-a-2d-castlevania-game/)
WayForward would “love” to work on a 2D Castlevania game, but that is “entirely up to Konami,” according to WayForward. The talented studio tweeted this message in response to a fan question.
Source: WayForward Twitter, Thanks Anti!
Dengo @DENGOJIN Mar 8
@WayForward have you considered about making a side scrolling Castlevania ?
WayForward@WayForward
@DENGOJIN We’d love to work on Castlevania but that’s entirely up to @Konami
After the slight letdown of Castlevania Lords of Shadow 2, I think it’s time for Konami to make an awesome 2D Castlevania again. Alucard as the main character, prequel to Symphony of the Night. Or how about a sequel to Order of Ecclesia?
why does it have to be a sequel or prequel.
why not an original.
that said, bloodrayne betrayal was definitely a cv invitation to konami
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I'd be very nice to see Wayforward do a Castlevania game.
However I think Konami has already found their next developer by now.
For reference, Konami went to Mercurysteam before Order of Ecclesia and Judgement were released so the next Castlevania game may be in development as we speak.
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I think Konami should relent and allow WayForward to do this. The series has spent enough time in the darkness, now it's time for it to shine as it once had.
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Old news, and it's nice to want things.
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Castlevania 5 please.
I have a feeling they would fare better making a Classicvania instead of a Metroidvania.
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After the slight letdown of Castlevania Lords of Shadow 2, I think it’s time for Konami to make an awesome 2D Castlevania again. Alucard as the main character, prequel to Symphony of the Night. Or how about a sequel to Order of Ecclesia?
A. They did, and it's called Rondo of Blood
B. ohgodplzno
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Castlevania 5 please.
I have a feeling they would fare better making a Classicvania instead of a Metroidvania.
I always thought of this:
- Castlevania 5
- Is a direct sequel to the first two games and stars Simon's son, Peter Belmont(Simon Peter, LOL)
- Takes place in the early 1700s(maybe 1720s)
- In the vein of the traditional CVs with a lot of ideas from SCV4(particularly gameplay).
- Story has hints of Dracula, but he's not the main villain. Probably focus on another vampire, like Carmilla or Elizabeth Bartley as the main antagonist.
- Branching paths like RoB, secret stages and lots of alternate boss battles. Because of this, lots of replayability.
This is something I can get behind. Make it beautiful as hell, get Jake Kaufman to score it(maybe even get Yamane to contribute, like how Shovel Knight has Matsumae doing a few songs)! Lots of winks to classic CV fans, and an overall polished experience. Release it for handhelds and home consoles(digital). Fuck yeah! Sold, baby!!
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So basically a Harmony of Dissonance prequel about one of Juste's parents. Did Harmony of Dissonance make any mention of them? Whether it was his father or mother that was from the Belmont lineage?
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So basically a Harmony of Dissonance prequel about one of Juste's parents. Did Harmony of Dissonance make any mention of them? Whether it was his father or mother that was from the Belmont lineage?
If I remember right it says that he's descended from both the Belmont and Belnades/Fernandez clan. Presumably from some branch of the Belnades/Fernandez family other than Sypha, assuming that the Sypha/Trevor pairing from the end of CV3 is canon. Since he carries the Belmont name and it takes place in a more conservative historical period, we can assume he's descended from the Belmonts on his father's side.
For the original topic I think it would be nice, but I don't expect it to happen.
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Castlevania 5 please.
What would they even call it in Japan
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"akumajo dracula gaiden" or something lol
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Akumajo Dracula XXXX: Cephas not Peter Whips Drac's Butt in Tempo Rubato Fashion of Gothicness
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B. ohgodplzno
What's wrong with OoE?
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I always thought of this:
- Castlevania 5
- Is a direct sequel to the first two games and stars Simon's son, Peter Belmont(Simon Peter, LOL)
- Takes place in the early 1700s(maybe 1720s)
- In the vein of the traditional CVs with a lot of ideas from SCV4(particularly gameplay).
- Story has hints of Dracula, but he's not the main villain. Probably focus on another vampire, like Carmilla or Elizabeth Bartley as the main antagonist.
- Branching paths like RoB, secret stages and lots of alternate boss battles. Because of this, lots of replayability.
This is something I can get behind. Make it beautiful as hell, get Jake Kaufman to score it(maybe even get Yamane to contribute, like how Shovel Knight has Matsumae doing a few songs)! Lots of winks to classic CV fans, and an overall polished experience. Release it for handhelds and home consoles(digital). Fuck yeah! Sold, baby!!
Absolutely THIS. Maybe more players, like Alucard, Sypha and Grant from CVIII. This would be a great return to the Castlevania´s roots (without spite or offend to MS´s Lords of Shadow :)).
That Bloodrayne Betrayal OST was great. Dusk Falls to me was a wink to Castlevania :D.
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Guys please don't set yourselves up for disappointment. It's only gonna hurt worse once it's revealed that Wayforward isn't doing the next Castlevania.
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Yes its true, but dreaming cost nothing :)
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I just want another game that stars a Belmont who goes around and defeats everybody who stands in his way.
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What's wrong with OoE? Also, boobies.
it didnt have a whip glyph :(
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Wayforward would be cool. But I would still prefer Vanillaware.
However, I would way, way rather the next developer make their own storyline. There's nothing to be gained by revisiting the convoluted storyline that IGA put together. The LOS storyline was a little disappointing as well.
I have faith that either of these two developers could give us a better storyline.
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So basically a Harmony of Dissonance prequel about one of Juste's parents. Did Harmony of Dissonance make any mention of them? Whether it was his father or mother that was from the Belmont lineage?
It doesn't even have to reference HoD at all. What if it was a pure fresh start that only takes CV1-3 into account and follows SCV4 in gameplay? Basically as classic CV as classic can get, with no direct ties to any of the IGA games.
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Castlevania 5 would be glorious.
I suppose for Japan it would be Akumajo [subject here]
or it could just do away with numbers all together. just call it "Castlevania". One word, no special naming conventions.
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It doesn't even need to be in any canon, make another non-canon game like Circle of the Moon if they really want to.
Gameplay is what matters the most to me. I just want to whip some candles and die a lot.
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I wouldn't trust CV V to anyone but Masahiro Ueno, and he's still at Konami so get on it!
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Wayfoward is too busy with this
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and it will be awesome
http://www.vg247.com/2014/01/29/wonder-momo-game-anime-revival-coming-from-wayforward/ (http://www.vg247.com/2014/01/29/wonder-momo-game-anime-revival-coming-from-wayforward/)
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What's wrong with OoE?
Aside from the awful level design, nothing really.
My objection to the idea of an OoE sequel doesn't stem from the game itself, which was fine enough. It stems from the fact that if we were able to get an AA, or even an A budget 2D Castlevania developed by WayForward, the last thing I would want it to be would be a sequel to the game that could be argued to have one of the most insignificant/gaiden stories in the timeline.
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Aside from the awful level design, nothing really.
My objection to the idea of an OoE sequel doesn't stem from the game itself, which was fine enough. It stems from the fact that if we were able to get an AA, or even an A budget 2D Castlevania developed by WayForward, the last thing I would want it to be would be a sequel to the game that could be argued to have one of the most insignificant/gaiden stories in the timeline.
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Ecclesia's level design was one of the best introduced in the series, along with the "big map" mechanic. I found PoR's level design much weaker in comparison, and when Ecclesia came out, I felt avenged. It was everything that the other DSVanias were not: Beautiful art, beautiful gameplay, beautiful difficulty, beautiful mechanics AND beautiful level design.
I see absolutelly nothing wrong with having a sequel to Order of Ecclesia. It could even reintroduce and reinforce the "Where the heck are the Belmonts?" idea. Could tell us a story about the curse of the stain being broken, and even have it be related somehow to Shanoa and the knowledge about the Belmonts that she might have gathered from the villagers (specifically, Daniela). Ecclesia is over, no other Dracula-fighting clan stands. Shanoa seems like the best catalyst to go seek out the answer for the Belmont-abscence riddle.
Also:
the last thing I would want it to be would be a sequel to the game that could be argued to have one of the most insignificant/gaiden stories in the timeline.
So, you argue that Shanoa finding descendants (a whole village of them, in fact) to the Belmonts when it was believed that they had disappeared, and discovering that Dracula's power can be dissected and used against him, along with informing us that there ARE other institutions bent in fighting Dracula aside the church, is one of the most insignificant stories in the timeline?
Holy crap.
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The level design in Order of Ecclesia was flat and uninspired. It was chock full of long and flat hallways that were interspersed with vertical "stair" rooms, and the best word I can think of to describe a lot of the larger rooms is "zig-zag". It also had its fair share of reused rooms as well. I particularly remembering one mountain level using the same bridge room at least three times. It tried to be a modern day Simon's Quest but suffered from the same design problem, in that every encounter needed to be easily accessible from both sides due to the need for backtracking. This led to a lot of "floaty" enemies and "wall" enemies, and not a lot of laid out encounters like something you'd see in any of the Classicvanias or memorable rooms like Symphony of the Night.
So, you argue that Shanoa finding descendants (a whole village of them, in fact) to the Belmonts when it was believed that they had disappeared, and discovering that Dracula's power can be dissected and used against him, along with informing us that there ARE other institutions bent in fighting Dracula aside the church, is one of the most insignificant stories in the timeline?
Holy crap.
Umm, yes?
Any complexity the story may have is nullified by the fact that it doesn't matter. So you find Belmonts. So what? It doesn't have any ramifications to the overarching storyline other than the fact that they still exist, which is something we already know because of AoS and DoS. And Ecclesia may be unique as an order, but its not unique in its status of being a non-church entity bent on fighting Dracula. Heck, the Belmonts aren't even always allied with the church.
That, and I've never liked the Belmont disappearance to begin with. The original explanation was just that other Belmont-daughter families took over the job, which made sense, but IGA had to go and make it a thing with meaning, yet never gave it any other meaning. IMO, it was just a means to the end of getting non-Belmonts into the spolight gameplay-wise.
It feels like a gaiden, and it should remain a one-off gaiden.
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Mmm.... eeeehhhh... I know I wanted this before. If it were approved by an alternate universe Konami that likes to spend money on franchises and doesn't rush the hell out of its hired developers I'd be more interested.
WayForward's stuff is really hit-or-miss to me. Contra 4 was phenomenal. Double Dragon Neon was hilarious and had fantastic music, but the RPG bits just got in the way. The Shantae games have fun characters but the games themselves are not terribly interesting. Ducktales looks gorgeous, but has little to offer over the NES one besides that. Bloodrayne looks great and sounds great, but the combat is strange and convoluted.
I'd like the next CV to be focused on interesting, challenging level design and not tons of RPG elements or a needless combo system. If they could nail that I'd be on board.
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Well Wayfoward already made a "CV" game with one of their licensee". They probably feel with the engine they already have, they could expand upon it. Kinda cheaply saying, can we make a game, we know is going to sell well. I have that dream too, of making such a game, as well.
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Alucard as the main character, prequel to Symphony of the Night. Or how about a sequel to Order of Ecclesia?
How about all of the above???
That would make my mothereffin' Xmas!!! ;D
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All we want is a SotN clone, with Alucard playable, resused sprites, and Medusa heads.
:rollseyes:
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All we want is a SotN clone, with Alucard playable, resused sprites, and Medusa heads.
:rollseyes:
Well, you know, you can always play SotN again since I doubt developers will go after that route.
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Well, you know, you can always play SotN again since I doubt developers will go after that route.
/sarcasm
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Aside from the awful level design, nothing really.
Yeah, I'm with theplotwist on this one. The level design is good, I don't see the qualms about the flat level design. On hard mode, the flatness of the forest level makes sense - you're constantly jumping and backflipping due to the flying skeletons that try to pummel you. Same with the topside parts of the mountain stages, since you're going to be leaping across the trees due to the instant-poisoning spiders sprinting across the ground. Granted, it's a shame that you have to play hard mode just to see the significance of the level design, but oh well.
Also it's not like CotM had an entire area that was quite literally a single long hallway with the exact same two enemies, a curiously explosive ox and demon, repeating constantly (why did half of CotM's enemies blow up like a WWII bomber is beyond me, I always laugh when that happens. Still I love it despite that.)
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All we want is a SotN clone, with Alucard playable, resused sprites, and Medusa heads.
:rollseyes:
To be fair, OoE dramatically reduced the use of sprites from SCIV/Rondo/SotN and added in a shit-ton of fluidly animated, brand spanking new sprites. Adventure Rebirth did the same as well, albeit reusing a bunch of a SotN's backgrounds (hgnghgh).
As for HoDespair, well...it is what it is.
Point is i'd still enjoy another 2D Castlevania by IGA as long as the reused stuff is kept to a minimum. And at the very least, there's still The Soul of Dracula if I want to play a psuedo-sequel to Super Castlevania IV and the upcoming Odallus: The Dark Call if I want another Metroidvania.
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Aside from the awful level design, nothing really.
I never really understood your aversion to OoE's level design. As far as I'm concerned, it inherited the solid level layouts of every Metroidvania game before it. The game's first half took more of a linear, "travel"-like approach, but nothing otherwise struck me as particularly jarring or different.
It tried to be a modern day Simon's Quest but suffered from the same design problem, in that every encounter needed to be easily accessible from both sides due to the need for backtracking. This led to a lot of "floaty" enemies and "wall" enemies, and not a lot of laid out encounters like something you'd see in any of the Classicvanias or memorable rooms like Symphony of the Night.
That comes with Metroidvania territory. The entire genre insists heavily on backtracking, so it definitely isn't OoE-specific.
It also had its fair share of reused rooms as well. I particularly remembering one mountain level using the same bridge room at least three times.
That's actually true. Entire areas, let alone rooms, were reused, but I assumed it was intentional. Every outdoor area in the game has its duplicate, only with different color schemes and mild design differences.
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Yeah, I'm with theplotwist on this one. The level design is good, I don't see the qualms about the flat level design. On hard mode, the flatness of the forest level makes sense - you're constantly jumping and backflipping due to the flying skeletons that try to pummel you. Same with the topside parts of the mountain stages, since you're going to be leaping across the trees due to the instant-poisoning spiders sprinting across the ground. Granted, it's a shame that you have to play hard mode just to see the significance of the level design, but oh well.
I'll agree to disagree, then. I really don't feel like going into all of this again. It's not like anyone is going to change their minds.
But to reiterate, my faults with the level design are not why I wouldn't want to a see a sequel. Timeline-wise I think it would be a waste of an entry when there are far more important games that need to get made.
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No I WILL MAKE YOU A CLONE OF ME, BRRRROTHER!
But I do agree that OoE doesn't lend itself to a sequel. The ending more or less said that Ecclesia disappeared from all history books. I guess some people would want closure in regards to Shanoa, but I guess it's satisfying enough that she went her own way...
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No I WILL MAKE YOU A CLONE OF ME, BRRRROTHER!
But I do agree that OoE doesn't lend itself to a sequel. The ending more or less said that Ecclesia disappeared from all history books. I guess some people would want closure in regards to Shanoa, but I guess it's satisfying enough that she went her own way...
Unless Shanoa went back to Wygol village and fell into the wondrous gaze of the photographer guy, and spawned the next Belmont Baby ;)
Nah OOE, much as I love it needs to be a one-off. Presumably no Barlowe = no Ecclesia, there's no real need for a sequel as well due to Albus' demise.
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Unless Shanoa went back to Wygol village and fell into the wondrous gaze of the photographer guy, and spawned the next Belmont Baby ;)
I doubt it. He had eyes for Laura the Jeweler. And why not? That was a really good-looking woman! Ouch! If anything it's that potion salesman you collect ingredients for that has a slight interest in Shanoa. But here's the thing I don't get about OoE. Supposedly in the story Albus mentions that all 13 of the Belmont descendants were drawn there. If that's the case then there should be a Mr. or Miss Belmont there too. But there isn't so not all of the Belmont descendants came to Wygol.
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Maybe it was whoever married into the Morris and Lecarde family who wasn't present.
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I'm not against 2.5D if they can make it all feel right and look good.
I would love to see brand new sprites altogether but I know there is no chance in hell of that happening since 2D is too expensive these days for whatever reason.
Heck, sprites with 3D backgrounds would be neat. I always loved games with that look.
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Maybe it was whoever married into the Morris and Lecarde family who wasn't present.
One of the old IGA timelines(that came in, I believe, the Japanese LoI guide) said that the Morris clan branched out from the Belmonts after Trevor, but before Christopher. Since I first saw that, I tend to think Trevor had a daughter(and a son) and the son continued the Belmont line, but the daughter married into the Morris clan, and gave birth to the Belmont blooded-Morrises.
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One of the old IGA timelines(that came in, I believe, the Japanese LoI guide) said that the Morris clan branched out from the Belmonts after Trevor, but before Christopher. Since I first saw that, I tend to think Trevor had a daughter(and a son) and the son continued the Belmont line, but the daughter married into the Morris clan, and gave birth to the Belmont blooded-Morrises.
belmonts are pretty lucky they keep having single male heirs.
Unless they just keep going at it till they make a boy, in which case we just never hear about all the other girl Belmonts.
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belmonts are pretty lucky they keep having single male heirs.
Unless they just keep going at it till they make a boy, in which case we just never hear about all the other girl Belmonts.
This is a problem I have with CV as a whole(classic and LoS). Not specifically solely a focus on female heirs more than a focus on family in general. We KNOW in the classic series there ARE female Belmonts. It's not a generational curse where they only give birth to one son per generation. The Morris clan is proof of that, meaning not only was a daughter born, she likely had a brother to pass on the Belmont name. And that intrigues me. What kind of relationship would the sibling Belmonts have? Were they supportive of each other? Where they jealous of each other? And if this is the case for one generation, what about others? What if, say, Simon had 4 children? Why not focus on the family itself, for once. Adding LoS into the mix, we know Gabrial had one son, and Trevor had one son, but for Simon, we know his bloodline continued on until Victor, but there HAD been MORE than just "one son....one son..... one son" and so on. And that would also mean, Victor probably WASN'T the last Belmont(if one generation, we got a few sons, a few daughters, and the branch out with their families). It really IS one of the reasons, as I've been saying, I want a family focused CV. Focus on the Belmonts(their family, traditions/rituals and closeness) and Dracula's family(maybe work in his brothers, his niece Elizabeth Bartley, son Alucard and such). Something more than just the "individual" which most CVs have been about. Individual hero, individual struggle, against an individual evil.
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belmonts are pretty lucky they keep having single male heirs.
Unless they just keep going at it till they make a boy, in which case we just never hear about all the other girl Belmonts.
Well, it is the Belmont Clan, by definition is a group of families who bear the Belmont sir-name, a European tribe basically....
Leon would be that common ancestor, I would love to see a game or story when the Belmont Clan is established as a clan
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We don't know how the Morris branch into existence, do we? People automatically assume it's because a woman can't pass on the name because of historical reasons (which Castlevania plays fast and loose with) and cultural values, I guess? There could be other possibilities. Passing on throughout the male line only wouldn't be very practical since they would be screwed if it died out completely. To put things in a Japanese perspective, sometimes there were several branches of a clan, and they came into existence because, for example, the emperor bestowed a clan member with a special title, which later evolved into a branch clan. It could also be possible a Belmont decided to found his own clan, perhaps because of an internal conflict. That would explain why there are only two branch families that we know of.
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Belmonts are Belmonts. All we know is that Sonia is the earliest, when not looking at the PS2 games, and LOTS derails everything. It is also a videogame, that is based on "VLad the impaler", so do not be so direct about it.
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Belmonts are Belmonts. All we know is that Sonia is the earliest, when not looking at the PS2 games, and LOTS derails everything. It is also a videogame, that is based on "VLad the impaler", so do not be so direct about it.
Sonia isn't canon.
LoS is not canon either to the original games.
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We don't know how the Morris branch into existence, do we? People automatically assume it's because a woman can't pass on the name because of historical reasons (which Castlevania plays fast and loose with) and cultural values, I guess? There could be other possibilities. Passing on throughout the male line only wouldn't be very practical since they would be screwed if it died out completely. To put things in a Japanese perspective, sometimes there were several branches of a clan, and they came into existence because, for example, the emperor bestowed a clan member with a special title, which later evolved into a branch clan. It could also be possible a Belmont decided to found his own clan, perhaps because of an internal conflict. That would explain why there are only two branch families that we know of.
Again, i would sure as HELL love to see something like that. Why Konami hasn't even TRIED to address this is beyond me. We have a clan, a family. With branching clans born from children, descendants on and on throughout the generations, it could make for a REALLY epic story.
Belmonts are Belmonts. All we know is that Sonia is the earliest, when not looking at the PS2 games, and LOTS derails everything. It is also a videogame, that is based on "VLad the impaler", so do not be so direct about it.
When not looking at either Legends, nor LoI, Trevor was the first, and IMO, that was the best for the origin tale. I'm biased regarding him and I don't hide it. He's the first Belmont to KILL Dracula and the whole bit about CV3 taking place in 1476, the year the REAL Vlad III died(debatable as some think it was early 1477, but for the longest time many believed it was 1476), makes it all that more cool. In OG CV canon, Vlad Tepes DID die in 1476.... Trevor killed him. But, he came back...
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Sonia isn't canon.
LoS is not canon either to the original games.
There was some theory going around that LOS belongs to the same canon as the older games. When I read the part about how Gabriel became Dracula who became Mathias who became Dracula, I swear I laughed so hard that I fell off my chair and farted..
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There was some theory going around that LOS belongs to the same canon as the older games. When I read the part about how Gabriel became Dracula who became Mathias who became Dracula, I swear I laughed so hard that I fell off my chair and farted..
Man that theory is beyond even Kojima tier. Even kojima would be like, "Seriously?"
I DO like that Gabriel is a Cronqvist though. I always liked that tidbit in relation to his being Dracula
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Going back to Belmont male heirs for a bit. I would imagine the wife, girlfriend or whatever you want to call them we're more than happy to keep trying for males. It wasn't so much they cared about having a boy but rather they just enjoyed the Belmonts and their "holy" power... wocka wocka wocka.
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I doubt this will actually happen, but I'd love some more 2.5D Castlevania. :)
Beta is right about OOE btw. I'd add to it that none of the characters in that game are really worth developing any further, especially not any of the playable ones. They improved the level design of that game (which isn't saying much) but the characters were awful and rather dull to play as. So for that reason alone, I'd rather not see anyone from OOE brought back out again.
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Welp, after all these years.. it's kinda happening with Bloodstained ;)
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Welp, after all these years.. it's kinda happening with Bloodstained ;)
Said with enough thread necromancy to resurrect The Count Dracula himself
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Stop with all those thread necromancies!
Please read the last date where the message was posted. Thank you.
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