Topic: Who is the Better Dracula?

[Odile Kuronuma]

Comparing Mathias to Gabriel is like comparing Griffith to Guts,at least that's how I see it.  If you're familiar with Berserk, there's a lot of similarities between those characters .
Mathias is described as a genius tactician in the LOI prologue, but I doubt he would have survived at that time if he wasn't a good fighter. Maybe not as good as Leon, but  he could prolly kick ass. Griffith is pretty much the same.Except he's more selfish and he's also a rapist .

Gab has been manipulated all the way, just like Guts, and they're both pretty strong. Maybe he can't wield a giant sword like the Dragon Slayer, but he's a Belmont. Enough said.

My point is we can't really say who's better, since we don't know Mathias that much, and because  both versions are good in their own way and don't have that much in common, besides the fact that in theory it's the same person, and they both lost their wives.

Just something I've been thinking about while reading the comments. It's also 3am in here, so I'm not thinking right  

[whitedragon_nall]

Comparing Mathias to Gabriel is like comparing Griffith to Guts,at least that's how I see it.

Then who gets to be Casca? Elisabetha or Marie? It's a good comparison though.

[Odile Kuronuma]

No one gets to be Caska i guess. Marie seems to be the closest, since Gab sacrificed everything for her, and he tried to bring her back, pretty much what Guts is doing by trying to fix Caska.

Also if Mathias could become a vampire and control Death thanks to the Crimson Stone,there's prolly a way for him to bring back Elizabetha as an undead.Wouldn't it make more sense if he tried  to be with his loved one, whether in life or death? Maybe he didn't love her that much  

[crisis]

Gabriel's a brawler, Mathias a tactician. Gabe doesn't really think things through, whereas Mathias thinks the ends justifies the means..

LoS-2 will really make or break how everyone sees Dracula in this timeline. I'm thinking we'll see more of Mathias' attitude in Gabriel-Drac anyway. It could go either way.

[Odile Kuronuma]

Gabriel's a brawler, Mathias a tactician. Gabe doesn't really think things through, whereas Mathias thinks the ends justifies the means..

LoS-2 will really make or break how everyone sees Dracula in this timeline. I'm thinking we'll see more of Mathias' attitude in Gabriel-Drac anyway. It could go either way.

Haha exactly like Guts and Griffith. So my comparison was good after all .

[chainsawmidget]

I prefer Vlad Dracula to be Dracula.  Why?  BECAUSE HE'S F@*^%ing DRACULA! 

With the others it's "Well, how did he become Dracula?"
"Well *complicated origin story here*..."

With the main guy, "How did he become Dracula?"
"BY being F$%^#ing DRACULA!  He's always been Dracula!  Even if he wasn't a vampire he was Dracula!" 

I can't understand why anyone would want to make a NEW Dracula when we already have a perfectly good one.  It'd be like making a WWII game and giving the origin story of how Gunther Eichelberger became Hitler.  Why not just use the Hitler that's already there?

[uzo]

Probably a timeline thing. You can cram more games into the past that way.

[thernz]

Can't wait for the next reboot in 2034.

[crisis]

For those that prefer the real-life Vlad Dracula, that's fine, go read a history book.

But for the fictional CASTLEVANIA franchise, well, it's been established since as early as The Castlevania Adventure that this Vlad Dracula was an ancient sorceror well before his IRL birth. The Japanese manual I believe stated he spent his early days summoning demons in his castle fortress, and that's how he's always been portrayed in the series (which is why by the time CVIII takes place, 1476 ((coincidentally the same year of real-life Vlad's death)), he's already several centuries old). So I see no problem with this different mythology for him, especially when you take into account what uzo said.

[chainsawmidget]

Well, if you're already accepting that Dracula is much older and, you know, has that whole demon army thing, then is it really that much of a stretch to say that Vlad has been around longer than people thought? 

I don't see how that's LESS plausible than having other characters decide they want to change their name and adopt the identity of some other guy for no real good reason. 

[thernz]

Usurp power maybe. In Dracula's case, he also went into hiding so it would make sense that he would change his identity a few times.

[Laughing skeleton]

I'll go with option three since i like the ancient sorceror identity from the classic castlevanias best.  This makes the battle with Dracula a frightening one because a confrontation with an impersonal adversary evokes the fear of the unknown.  Does my enemy even have a human aspect to him or am I facing the manifest visage of evil itself?

[KaZudra]

Classic Dracula?
I really hated the throwaway story in LoI as it also conflicts with canon anyways, the whole Mathias thing was stupid and it literally went nowhere.
What I Hate about LoI story is that its useless, IGA did a really good job making something that can be very important into something that was better off in a manual summary.
Besides, I find it impossible for the Belmont establishment to be 1000 years before the first slaying since Mathias Dissapeared form Transylvania for many centuries
Second, This story only somewhat builded up to one game, an arcade title that many people will not have the fortune to play.

Its sad that something useful like an origin story is pushed aside to this GREAT WAR OF 1999 that we all had to hear about in 4 games straight.
IGA can make some good games, but he seriously needs to overhaul his stories.

[Profbeanburrito]

It's really hard to tell since we barely saw Gabriel as Dracula, but he seems like he'll be awesome. I guess I'll have to answer this when a LoS sequel comes out

[Flame]

Classic Dracula?
I really hated the throwaway story in LoI

No more throwaway than the rest of the self contained games.

as it also conflicts with canon anyways,

How?

the whole Mathias thing was stupid and it literally went nowhere.

Huh. as if the other origins actually went anywhere either.

Besides, I find it impossible for the Belmont establishment to be 1000 years before the first slaying since Mathias Dissapeared form Transylvania for many centuries

what..? I dont get what you mean here. you mean you find it impossible for Belmonts to exist and NOT kill dracula for a few centuries? How? Remember that Dracula did not start his war gainst humanity until his second wife was killed under the accusation of witchcraft

Second, This story only somewhat builded up to one game, an arcade title that many people will not have the fortune to play.

What? it did? what game?

Its sad that something useful like an origin story is pushed aside to this GREAT WAR OF 1999 that we all had to hear about in 4 games straight.

Aria and Dawn are only 2 games, friend.

IGA can make some good games, but he seriously needs to overhaul his stories.

but ultimately, I have to agree a little bit.