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Re: Koji Igarashi Leaves Konami, Founding New Studio, Metroidvania GDC
« Reply #465 on: March 21, 2014, 11:27:15 AM »
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I KNOW OFFICIALLY THEY DO. But symphony of the night alucard is not the same alucard as arikado, who isn't the same as CV3 alucard. Geez, I'm just rambling now...

The bolded part, why do you say that?

They are the same, didn't you play Julius mode in DOS?

Its shown that Arikado is just a disguise and that he can revert back to his vampireic SOTN appearance when need be.

But you have a point about CV3 Alucard, but that had more to do with them wanting to base him on on classic/mainstream interpretation of Dracula's son at the time.


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« Reply #466 on: March 21, 2014, 11:31:01 AM »
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I don't mind that the Belmonts are fallible. They're human. They're supposed to be.

I just don't want them picking up the 4e "Vampiric Heritage" feat.

And that's where I disagree: I think them having a little vamp in 'em explains why they're even more superhuman down the line.  Could be a recessive little trait that comes on occasionally or something.  They're not paragons of Holy Purity at all.

My favorite heroes have a little vamp in 'em (Alucard is one of 'em, Blade is another).

I don't understand why the concept is so icky to you fucking holybelmont purists.

Can we get back to the main topic again? Or is this recurring set of arguments going to happen for ALL ETERNITY?
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« Reply #467 on: March 21, 2014, 11:34:59 AM »
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I think the Belmonts being descendants of Alucard was a reference to Slavic mythology about Dhampirs, which states that it's their nature to hunt down their vampiric fathers. It's a pretty cool nod, so it's a shame most people don't seem like it very much.   

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Re: Koji Igarashi Leaves Konami, Founding New Studio, Metroidvania GDC
« Reply #468 on: March 21, 2014, 11:35:11 AM »
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The bolded part, why do you say that?

They are the same, didn't you play Julius mode in DOS?

Its shown that Arikado is just a disguise and that he can revert back to his vampireic SOTN appearance when need be.

But you have a point about CV3 Alucard, but that had more to do with them wanting to base him on on classic/mainstream interpretation of Dracula's son at the time.

I know they are the same, I suck at explaining myself. The whole point of that long rant was to explain that to me, none of the games follow each other, I know I sound crazy. But after years and years of time to get used to it, I still can't see the symphony of the night alucard being the same guy as the Dawn of Sorrow alucard. Am I making myself clear? I know I sound like an idiot right now.

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« Reply #469 on: March 21, 2014, 11:35:24 AM »
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I feel like with Alucard, Soma and other similar characters there's enough of the "hero with a dark side/origin" to scratch that itch, which is why I dig the Belmonts being straight up holy men in a sense.

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« Reply #470 on: March 21, 2014, 11:37:52 AM »
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I know they are the same, I suck at explaining myself. The whole point of that long rant was to explain that to me, none of the games follow each other, I know I sound crazy. But after years and years of time to get used to it, I still can't see the symphony of the night alucard being the same guy as the Dawn of Sorrow alucard. Am I making myself clear? I know I sound like an idiot right now.

I know what you mean. For example, I can't really imagine any of the NES games taking place in same universe as Symphony of the Night. The whole nature of the world just seems too different to me.     

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« Reply #471 on: March 21, 2014, 11:40:34 AM »
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I wonder if the protag for IGA's next game is going to be a dhampir. I mean he loves his dark heroes, since we also got Soma and Hector.

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Re: Koji Igarashi Leaves Konami, Founding New Studio, Metroidvania GDC
« Reply #472 on: March 21, 2014, 11:50:30 AM »
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the whole devil forgemaster plot of cod would actually serve as a nice template for iga's new universe. of course he wouldnt be able to call them devil forgemasters, but anti-hero(s) that betray dracula or an original vampire lord would be a good place to start imo

start a nice simple bloodfued origin story that way, "i once was in league with dracula but when he killed my family, i renounced him & my lineage will forever make sure he wont take over earth"
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« Reply #473 on: March 21, 2014, 12:23:24 PM »
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I know what you mean. For example, I can't really imagine any of the NES games taking place in same universe as Symphony of the Night. The whole nature of the world just seems too different to me.   

Exactly. Not that curse of darkness is a bad game or anything. But thinking of it being a sequel to draculas curse is too weird... It like The Thing and the Thing prequel. They make sense together, they're both good, but still can't see one happening before the other. Nobody can convince me that Bloodlines dracula is Mathias.



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Re: Koji Igarashi Leaves Konami, Founding New Studio, Metroidvania GDC
« Reply #474 on: March 21, 2014, 12:37:31 PM »
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Not that curse of darkness is a bad game or anything

lol so you think its good? i'd say its okay.. "passable" at best. a couple steps back from loi
if it wasnt for the excellent soundtrack & other little things here n there, then the game would be downright terrible in my eyes. but as hard as it is to believe, there are much worse games out there than curse of darkness

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« Reply #475 on: March 21, 2014, 01:21:11 PM »
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lol so you think its good? i'd say its okay.. "passable" at best. a couple steps back from loi
if it wasnt for the excellent soundtrack & other little things here n there, then the game would be downright terrible in my eyes. but as hard as it is to believe, there are much worse games out there than curse of darkness

I agree. It's ok at best. But quality has nothing to do with the fact that it doesn't fit at all with draculas curse. Which is understandable because of the age gap, but every recent game before LOS still felt separate from others that came out around the same time. It's hard to take continuity seriously in castlevania games so I don't even try. Which is why the Sonya talks are so silly to me.

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Re: Koji Igarashi Leaves Konami, Founding New Studio, Metroidvania GDC
« Reply #476 on: March 21, 2014, 01:23:12 PM »
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I know what you mean. For example, I can't really imagine any of the NES games taking place in same universe as Symphony of the Night. The whole nature of the world just seems too different to me.   

I did love how when Maria asked Alucard if he'd heard the name Richter Belmont, and he says "Of the Belmont Clan? Of course." Maria thinks of an actual unique image of Richter, but Alucard thinks of an image of Trevor that's designed after his old NES sprite.

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« Reply #477 on: March 21, 2014, 01:41:55 PM »
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Sorry for beating a dead horse but I was always under the impression that Belmont's got their power through Sypha? Which I guess you could say is another form of holy power.

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« Reply #478 on: March 21, 2014, 01:45:55 PM »
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iirc trevor was already an outcast because of his POWER

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« Reply #479 on: March 21, 2014, 01:48:09 PM »
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Good point. I guess Leon has powers too.

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