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Title: I downloaded the 3DS version of Castlevania III today
Post by: Super Waffle on October 05, 2014, 05:24:50 PM
First time playing.  To refresh your memory, this was my reaction to playing through Castlevania 1 last year: http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php/topic,5368.msg132441.html#msg132441 (http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php/topic,5368.msg132441.html#msg132441)

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Should I hold on to my butts?
Title: Re: I downloaded the 3DS version of Castlevania III today
Post by: Super Waffle on October 06, 2014, 12:47:10 PM
So apparently I'm the only person here who has ever played Castlevania III.

That's odd.  I thought this was a website specifically devoted to Castlevania games where everyone talks about how great the original series was.
Title: Re: I downloaded the 3DS version of Castlevania III today
Post by: Ratty on October 06, 2014, 01:19:23 PM
So apparently I'm the only person here who has ever played Castlevania III.

That's odd.  I thought this was a website specifically devoted to Castlevania games where everyone talks about how great the original series was.

I think everyone's just been unusually busy. I know I have been. But yeah Castlevania 3 is a lot harder than 1. It's also a much more epic, overall better game. But man is it hard. Like with Castlevania 1 you need to play through some stages until you can almost close your eyes and get through them on muscle-memory alone before you pass.

But the password system takes a lot of the pressure off, if you feel yourself start to get frustrated you can go and do something else. Unlike the first one which you're supposed to beat in one sitting. The 3 different characters mix up the gameplay and also determine how long and difficult your playthrough will be. I've beaten all the stages, and they're all amazingly well designed. But I've only ever beaten the final two with Sypha. Though I never used her at all on the final stage/Dracula.   

All in all the definition of a video game masterpiece. And it's super fun if you're up for a good challenge.
Title: Re: I downloaded the 3DS version of Castlevania III today
Post by: X on October 07, 2014, 01:47:26 AM
I downloaded this for my 2DS a while ago. Plays just like it's NES counterpart. I haven't noticed any real difference aside from the tiny screen. But that's a portable system for you.
Title: Re: I downloaded the 3DS version of Castlevania III today
Post by: Super Waffle on October 07, 2014, 05:43:48 AM
Why would you own a 2DS if you're above the age of 7?

It's unwieldy and easily scratched in literally every way the 3DS isn't.
Title: Re: I downloaded the 3DS version of Castlevania III today
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on October 07, 2014, 06:26:59 AM
Either it's a typo or he lends the 2ds to a kid.
Title: Re: I downloaded the 3DS version of Castlevania III today
Post by: Super Waffle on October 07, 2014, 07:37:40 AM
Owls attack you in this game in annoying arc patterns.

Oh man I totally called this when I wrote http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php/topic,7487.0.html (http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php/topic,7487.0.html)
Title: Re: I downloaded the 3DS version of Castlevania III today
Post by: X on October 07, 2014, 10:49:34 AM
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Why would you own a 2DS if you're above the age of 7?

I purchased a 2DS on the basis that it's more solidly built. Besides I don't want to us up the memory of my 3DS with a last, last gen library. For me, my 2DS is my classic genre handheld. I can put in all my favorite classic titles on there as well as any newer ones like Shovel Knight and Shantae. I us my 3DS strictly for my 3DS-based games. That and It's having internet issues. And of course age has nothing to do with choice my friend  :)
Title: Re: I downloaded the 3DS version of Castlevania III today
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on October 08, 2014, 02:35:25 AM
I agree on the internet issues of the 3ds. I can't access the store since forever. /grrr
Title: Re: I downloaded the 3DS version of Castlevania III today
Post by: RegalX7 on October 09, 2014, 01:26:50 AM
Castlevania 3 is hard as hell (it has been a while, but I can't remember ever beating the Doppelganger without doing the pause/unpause trick), but once you hear that badass jingle from beating Dracula, you're on top of the world.
Title: Re: I downloaded the 3DS version of Castlevania III today
Post by: Ratty on October 09, 2014, 02:46:11 AM
Castlevania 3 is hard as hell (it has been a while, but I can't remember ever beating the Doppelganger without doing the pause/unpause trick), but once you hear that badass jingle from beating Dracula, you're on top of the world.

What I did was get the doppleganger trapped below by jumping on the upper right hand ledge, then spamming Sypha's homing attack until it died. Hence my never beating that stage (and consequently the final level and Dracula) with any other partner lol.

Dracula was actually easier in a lot of ways. Beating Dracula is all about 1. Standing as far back as possible while you whip his first form so you can have room to move out of the way when the flames start to pop up. You really just have to practice dodging the flames for a while to get a feel for it. 2. Getting a feel for how to run under/avoid the dripping slime from his second form while getting in hits with your whip and axe as quickly as you can. If you save up a lot of axes, which you should be able to in the US version (since you re-spawn at the mid-point of the level instead of at the foot of Dracula's tower when you die/start of level after game over) you can basically just stand in the corner and wail on him with axes in his final form until he dies.

At least that's my strategy. Once saw a speedrunner beat Drac in seconds with Sypha's flame (equivalent to a dagger) of all things. But I'm nowhere near that level and don't expect I ever will be.

Also - USE THE AXE TO GRAB THE EXTRA LIFE in the final level. That will save you so much frustration when you have to take off half your lifebar walking through an enemy to get to the door immediately afterward so you don't die on the collapsing floor.
Title: Re: I downloaded the 3DS version of Castlevania III today
Post by: Super Waffle on October 09, 2014, 06:19:40 AM
Guys, I've been taking all of the lower routes not really knowing what it would accomplish and now Alucard wants to join my little LARPing group.

What should I do?
Title: Re: I downloaded the 3DS version of Castlevania III today
Post by: X on October 09, 2014, 10:04:07 AM
Take him if you plan to continue going through the lower routs. His bat transformation will help you get through some of the tough spots. Or if you're feeling gutsy leave him behind and try finishing the game as Trevor.
Title: Re: I downloaded the 3DS version of Castlevania III today
Post by: Super Waffle on October 09, 2014, 02:25:30 PM
I could probably beat the entire game as Trevor at this point.

The good news:  I got this far without losing a single life.

The bad news:  Save states.  Lots and lots of save states.
Title: Re: I downloaded the 3DS version of Castlevania III today
Post by: Ratty on October 09, 2014, 02:35:21 PM
I could probably beat the entire game as Trevor at this point.

The good news:  I got this far without losing a single life.

The bad news:  Save states.  Lots and lots of save states.

I beat it on a physical cart so I never had that temptation. I did leave it for months at a time before I beat it though.
Title: Re: I downloaded the 3DS version of Castlevania III today
Post by: Super Waffle on October 09, 2014, 08:55:56 PM
Aquarius.mp3

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Title: Re: I downloaded the 3DS version of Castlevania III today
Post by: Ratty on October 10, 2014, 04:06:15 PM
Yep. It's that good.
Title: Re: I downloaded the 3DS version of Castlevania III today
Post by: Super Waffle on October 10, 2014, 06:36:54 PM
Riddle.mp3

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p.s.: I'm watching clips of this on YouTube and why the fuck is the Japanese version EASIER than the US version?  Gee, thanks, Konami.  Having the twin mummy dudes throw their bandages in horizontal lines (instead of wishy washy medusa patterns) and those two ledges that are inaccessible to the bosses really could have helped me in Level 7.
Title: Re: I downloaded the 3DS version of Castlevania III today
Post by: VladCT on October 10, 2014, 07:01:26 PM
p.s.: I'm watching clips of this on YouTube and why the fuck is the Japanese version EASIER than the US version?  Gee, thanks, Konami.  Having the twin mummy dudes throw their bandages in horizontal lines (instead of wishy washy medusa patterns) and those two ledges that are inaccessible to the bosses really could have helped me in Level 7.
Because lolrentals (i.e. they don't want it to be too easy that kids can just rent it for a couple days or so to beat it). :V
Title: Re: I downloaded the 3DS version of Castlevania III today
Post by: Ratty on October 10, 2014, 07:22:02 PM
Because lolrentals (i.e. they don't want it to be too easy that kids can just rent it for a couple days or so to beat it). :V

Yeah this was pretty standard practice through the 1990s. It's why the original US release of Resident Evil 1 didn't have auto targeting when the Japanese did. Even though you literally can't see what you're shooting at half the time with the camera angles in that game.

In the case of Castlevania 3 all enemies do more damage the farther you go in the US release, and when you get a game over against Dracula you're sent back to the beginning of the stage rather than started at the bottom of the stairs to his keep.

PS- In Japan video game rentals are illegal. Thus it was never a concern there.
Title: Re: I downloaded the 3DS version of Castlevania III today
Post by: Super Waffle on October 11, 2014, 10:22:48 AM
Doppelgangrape.

Dracula boners.

Is the rental thing really why they made the game intentionally harder, or is that just one of those weird video game conspiracy theories?

Title: Re: I downloaded the 3DS version of Castlevania III today
Post by: VladCT on October 11, 2014, 10:54:00 AM
Eh, to be honest I don't really know but it seems logically sound at least.
Title: Re: I downloaded the 3DS version of Castlevania III today
Post by: Super Waffle on October 13, 2014, 04:34:14 PM
Who the hell is Syfa Velnundes?
Title: Re: I downloaded the 3DS version of Castlevania III today
Post by: Lelygax on October 14, 2014, 10:45:43 PM
It is Sypha when she wore more clothes than in Pachislot. Also Waffle, try beating it sometime in the future without save states, or you will start thinking that all old games were like Prince of Persia: Sands of Time LOL
Title: Re: I downloaded the 3DS version of Castlevania III today
Post by: Super Waffle on October 15, 2014, 01:26:16 AM
or you will start thinking that all old games were like Prince of Persia: Sands of Time LOL

You mean they weren't?
Title: Re: I downloaded the 3DS version of Castlevania III today
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on October 15, 2014, 01:51:42 AM
you will start thinking that all old games were like Prince of Persia: Sands of Time LOL

Ahahaha! I could still remember the voiceover when you die.
Title: Re: I downloaded the 3DS version of Castlevania III today
Post by: TatteredSeraph on October 15, 2014, 02:10:49 AM
Wait, you can download this for the 2DS?    How the heck did I miss this? ¬_¬  Before people laugh, it was given to me as a present, together with PoR and DoS.  They're the only things I've played on it, aside for OoE.  This is how litle I bother with it. 
Title: Re: I downloaded the 3DS version of Castlevania III today
Post by: Super Waffle on October 15, 2014, 02:46:59 AM
Oh.  I just watched the little opening scroll for the first time and I saw this:
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During 15th Century Europe, there lived a person named Dracula.  He practiced sorcery in order to create a bad world filled with evil.

Man, that Dracula is one bad dude.  He's so... bad and evil.
Title: Re: I downloaded the 3DS version of Castlevania III today
Post by: Lelygax on October 15, 2014, 03:10:08 AM
You mean they weren't?

It seems that I was come too late...

Wait, you can download this for the 2DS?

A 2DS can do anything that a 3DS can, less the "Oh! Its 3D" part.

Ahahaha! I could still remember the voiceover when you die.

The only gameover voiceover that I remember is that one, but in japanese (for some reason I couldnt find a video in japanese)
MGS1 Game Over! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9O_kg6EqcRA#)
Title: Re: I downloaded the 3DS version of Castlevania III today
Post by: Super Waffle on October 15, 2014, 01:33:25 PM
It is Sypha when she wore more clothes than in Pachislot.

That sounds horrible.  Pachislot Sypha is the best Sypha.
Title: Re: I downloaded the 3DS version of Castlevania III today
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on October 16, 2014, 12:04:09 AM
Wait, you can download this for the 2DS?    How the heck did I miss this? ¬_¬  Before people laugh, it was given to me as a present, together with PoR and DoS.  They're the only things I've played on it, aside for OoE.  This is how litle I bother with it.

Don't worry, X also has a 2DS. You are not alone.
I'm sure the guys here would like you to play Smash Bros.

The only gameover voiceover that I remember is that one, but in japanese (for some reason I couldnt find a video in japanese)

You can't. You need to know Japanese to find the appropriate video in Japanese.
Title: Re: I downloaded the 3DS version of Castlevania III today
Post by: Lelygax on October 16, 2014, 12:53:03 AM
You can't. You need to know Japanese to find the appropriate video in Japanese.

I dont know japanese, but I wrote "ゲームオーバー メタルギアソリッド" and even so only english results appeared on youtube, with settings to global. It even identified this as Metal Gear Solid instead of メタルギアソリッド :(
Title: Re: I downloaded the 3DS version of Castlevania III today
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on October 17, 2014, 12:16:49 AM
I dont know japanese, but I wrote "ゲームオーバー メタルギアソリッド" and even so only english results appeared on youtube, with settings to global. It even identified this as Metal Gear Solid instead of メタルギアソリッド :(

Oh... Then I suppose no one posted any videos.