Topic: Belmont Tree

[DragonSlayr81]

Don't forget that the Fernandezes (AKA the Belnades) Are also related to the Belmonts, through Trevor's union with Sypha. Some of their children may have even kept the fernandez name as an attempt to protect them selves from the Cult of Chaos, who kept reviving Dracula.

I doubt that. I think the other Fernandez/Belnades descendants are not descended from Sypha, but other Belnades. Perhaps her brothers(to keep the surname alive THAT long). Yoko, Carrie, and Charlotte(who's Aulin clan branched out from the Belnades) are from THAT line. Sypha's descendants are Belmonts, or Belmont cousins. That would mean Charlotte Aulin isn't a descendant of Sypha(even though the Aulins are branched out of the Belnades clan), but Jonathan Morris IS descended from Sypha(since the Morris clan branched out of the Belmonts AFTER Trevor and before Christopher).

[Quasar]

It is possible that Sypha had children by another previous marriage before she met Trevor. If they had some reason to keep their mother's name rather than their father's, they could have been named Belnades/Fernandez and be able to claim direct descent from her. I've just always preferred that possibility for some reason

[Steve]

It is possible that Sypha had children by another previous marriage before she met Trevor.

...Sypha was an apprentice monk in the Catholic Church before she met Trevor.

[Kensuke]

In Reply To #78

Technically, she'd be a nun. The Catholic Church doesn't have female monks. I know. I used to be Catholic and did the whole religion thing. Though I'm not sure she had anything to do with the Catholic Church, since I've usually seen her mentioned as a wizard.

And don't get me started on Yoko being a "Witch in the service of the Catholic Church". Them Japanese are on crack when it comes to integrating western religions.

- John

[Kensuke]

Well, It looks to me like they just got lazy and reused Dracula's speech in Richter's end for Maria as well. So, that might not actually be true that the Renards are related to the Belmonts.

Maria is related to the Belmonts because:

1. It says so in the Rondo manual.
2. Dracula says so at the end of the game.
3. Maria says so if and when she rescues Annette.

In what capacity she and the Renards are related to the Belmonts is never truely explored though. It could be a branch going back as far as Trevor as far as anyone knows. But the relation is there.

Besides that would be a little weird with Richter and Annette.

Not at all. Because Annette and Maria are not related by blood. That was a combination of fan invention and possibly some misdirection imposed by Dracula XX (once again, I hate that game). Too many fan sites have stated this. And its leading to some of you putting it in your family trees.

Technically Annette was never given a last name. She's not important enough to rate one. She serves as the Damsel in Distress, and a love interest for Richter so that the Belmont genes can be passed on. Nothing more.

Also, Simon obviously had to screw around with somebody, so Serena is a good enough place holder even though that game isn't canon.

- John

[thernz]

In Reply To #79

Sypha was pretending to be a man though. ._.

[Steve]

In Reply To #78

Technically, she'd be a nun. The Catholic Church doesn't have female monks. I know. I used to be Catholic and did the whole religion thing. Though I'm not sure she had anything to do with the Catholic Church, since I've usually seen her mentioned as a wizard.

She was definitely working for the Catholic Church.

[The Last Belmont]

Ok, but what about the cell phone game? Is there a way to get it without a cell phone?

nope well not right now at least, but no worries it's only 6 bucks.

[Jorge D. Fuentes]

She was definitely working for the Catholic Church.  It's stated in the story in the Japanese manual.

Actually, wasn't that the Eastern Orthodox Church?  They're not the same, y'know...

The Eastern Orthodox Church is mentioned again in Legacy of Darkness.

[Steve]

Yeah, I went back and checked, and it is the Eastern Orthodox Church.  My mistake.

I guess it's easy to get confused when most of the games just refer to "the Church."

[Kensuke]

I'm looking at the Japanese manual...

Yes. She's Eastern Orthodox. Not the same as Catholic. It also says that the EOC sought out Trevor and charged him with killing Dracula when they lost touch with Sypha.

- John

[Steve]

Confusion also stems from the fact that it says the Pope is the one who requested the aid of Ralph and company.  Needless to say, the Pope is Catholic.

[Quasar]

"Working for" the Church is not the same as having taken vows. That Sypha later marries Trevor IMO precludes the idea that she intended to serve as a nun. How many nuns have you met that carry staves and cast fire, ice, and lightning spells? What a waste of talent that would be

[Kensuke]

In Reply To #87

There's Eastern Orthodox Popes, but they serve a much more limited and less powerful function. Another possibility is that Dracula was such a threat that the Eastern Orthodox & Catholic Churches (Protestantism didn't exist yet) put aside their differences long enough to work together.

Anyways...here's a copy of the Drac III Japanese manual translated:

http://www.vgmuseum.com/mrp/cv3/documents/CV3J.txt

- John

[The Last Belmont]

In Reply To #87

There's Eastern Orthodox Popes, but they serve a much more limited and less powerful function. Another possibility is that Dracula was such a threat that the Eastern Orthodox & Catholic Churches (Protestantism didn't exist yet) put aside their differences long enough to work together.

I tend to think this is what happened, Europe was in such trouble that the 2 churches came together to overcome a common evil. I think when it says the pope goes looking for Trevor/Ralph, it's referring to the catholic pope. I also think the catholic church sent out an army as well maybe after the Eastern Orthodoxes.

Anyways...here's a copy of the Drac III Japanese manual translated:

http://www.vgmuseum.com/mrp/cv3/documents/CV3J.txt

- John

Thank You, that's awesome I've never read the JP manual, just a translated version of the text in the intro.