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Title: Metroid by MercurySteam?
Post by: Pfil on March 10, 2013, 07:36:05 PM
If this comes true, I will think about Metroid: Other M and cry.
I won't say anything else, but I just saw this and wanted to share my pain.

http://areajugones.es/2013/03/mercury-steam-esta-pensando-en-una-entrega-de-metroid-para-3ds/ (http://areajugones.es/2013/03/mercury-steam-esta-pensando-en-una-entrega-de-metroid-para-3ds/)
Title: Re: Metroid by MercurySteam?
Post by: Lelygax on March 10, 2013, 07:44:45 PM
They simply will receive a great and flat no, its obvious. Team Ninja did a great job with Other M gameplay so if they call someone, it will be them.
Title: Re: Metroid by MercurySteam?
Post by: VladCT on March 10, 2013, 07:44:57 PM
Welp, I guess Samus' mom will become Mother Brain.
Title: Re: Metroid by MercurySteam?
Post by: Pfil on March 10, 2013, 08:21:46 PM
I've been waiting SO MUCH for another Metroid by Team Ninja!
Title: Re: Metroid by MercurySteam?
Post by: Lelygax on March 10, 2013, 08:23:25 PM
That can happen, I want a sequel to Metroid Fusion :P
Title: Re: Metroid by MercurySteam?
Post by: Kingshango on March 10, 2013, 08:36:02 PM
I liked Lords of Shadow, I wanna get Mirror of Fate once I get my hands on a 3DS and Lords of Shadow 2 is in my top 10 most anticipated games of this year.

But I must say no, Mercurysteam. Metroid has been going some tough times and the last thing it needs is another reboot starring Gabriella Aran who becomes Ridley.  :P

If anything Mercurysteam should prove themselves by developing a new IP, instead of warping around existing franchises or better yet, get the rights to Severance Blade of Darkness and do a sequel to that and get the Dark Souls crowd.
Title: Re: Metroid by MercurySteam?
Post by: VladCT on March 10, 2013, 08:44:27 PM
Eh, I think it'd be more likely for whoever Samus' mom would be to become Mother Brain if MS ends up doing it. I mean, think of all the punshow the heck is a female human supposed to transform into a male reptiloid alien?
Title: Re: Metroid by MercurySteam?
Post by: TheouAegis on March 10, 2013, 09:53:01 PM
Reconstructive surgery. A tranny operation gone horribly wrong!
Title: Re: Metroid by MercurySteam?
Post by: e105beta on March 10, 2013, 09:58:13 PM
While storytelling can only go up from Other M, I don't see what MercurySteam would bring to the table gameplay-wise that Team Ninja didn't. MercurySteam's version would just be a moodier, prettier, 30 fps version of the exact same game.

They should just bring Retro back. Now that they've made a side-scrolling platformer, Retro should just hop on the Metroid train again and go at it from a 2D angle. I'd be interested to see a take like that.
Title: Re: Metroid by MercurySteam?
Post by: Flame on March 10, 2013, 10:28:05 PM
Other M was fun to play, and I hope that now that they've finally filled all the space between 2 and Fusion, they finally make a sequel to Fusion itself. I just hope Sakamoto is kept far faaaaar away from the story, however. Other M's story, while good in concept, (I have no problem with the Ridley scene and Adam authorization gimmick- although the Ridley scene might have been a bit TOO dramatic, and the lava run was inexcusable) was kind of badly executed at times. it doesn't help Samus English VA was just plain dreadful.

That said, MS Metroid? Well I'm curious if nothing else.
Title: Re: Metroid by MercurySteam?
Post by: Pfil on March 10, 2013, 10:54:09 PM
I found the dramatic aspects of Other M really touching, it was one of many things I loved about the game.
Title: Re: Metroid by MercurySteam?
Post by: Inccubus on March 11, 2013, 01:24:27 AM
Come on guys. Isn't obvious? If this happens then Samus gets turned into Mother Brain, but they aren't the same person. :P
Title: Re: Metroid by MercurySteam?
Post by: Puwexil on March 11, 2013, 01:41:57 AM
Other M was absolutely vile. It would take real effort to make a game worse than it, but I sure wouldn't pick MercurySteam for the task when they're already struggling to wrap their heads around the concept of adapting Castlevania for a contemporary audience. I'd expect something as jarringly dissonant and creatively derivative if that came to pass.
Title: Re: Metroid by MercurySteam?
Post by: Neobelmont on March 11, 2013, 01:48:00 AM
What's a nintendo franchise that MS could do?

Hmmm.

Nothing at the moment  ???

Not F-zero that's for sure.

Maybe Ice Climber?
Or how about startropics?
Title: Re: Metroid by MercurySteam?
Post by: e105beta on March 11, 2013, 03:42:55 AM
What's a nintendo franchise that MS could do?

Hmmm.

Nothing at the moment  ???

Not F-zero that's for sure.

Maybe Ice Climber?
Or how about startropics?

I would pay full dollar to see a MercurySteam Ice Climber

Title: Re: Metroid by MercurySteam?
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on March 11, 2013, 04:43:22 AM
What's a nintendo franchise that MS could do?

Balloon Fight?
They could put in a back story on why the heck those creatures want to fly and pop the balloons of the others.
Title: Re: Metroid by MercurySteam?
Post by: Ratty on March 11, 2013, 05:16:27 AM
Balloon Fight?
They could put in a back story on why the heck those creatures want to fly and pop the balloons of the others.

Nah Team Ninja have them beaten with years of research into jiggly balloon physics in advance.
Title: Re: Metroid by MercurySteam?
Post by: X on March 11, 2013, 09:49:52 AM
Mercurysteam's Castlevania should be a lesson learned on how not to remake a franchise. I don't want them to touch Contra and I certainly don't want them anywhere near Metroid.
Title: Re: Metroid by MercurySteam?
Post by: Lelygax on March 11, 2013, 10:58:53 AM
Other M was absolutely vile. It would take real effort to make a game worse than it, but I sure wouldn't pick MercurySteam for the task when they're already struggling to wrap their heads around the concept of adapting Castlevania for a contemporary audience. I'd expect something as jarringly dissonant and creatively derivative if that came to pass.

Thats Nintendo fault, Team Ninja didn't write the story of the game.
Title: Re: Metroid by MercurySteam?
Post by: Puwexil on March 11, 2013, 11:51:53 AM
I was talking about the game as a whole; I'm aware the story's repugnancy is Sakamoto's doing. I don't see anything redeeming about it in strictly mechanical terms either. Empty, dead corridors punctuated by grossly fetishistic encounters with plastic creature designs and not much else.
Title: Re: Metroid by MercurySteam?
Post by: Pfil on March 11, 2013, 02:23:28 PM
Other M was absolutely vile. It would take real effort to make a game worse than it, but I sure wouldn't pick MercurySteam for the task when they're already struggling to wrap their heads around the concept of adapting Castlevania for a contemporary audience. I'd expect something as jarringly dissonant and creatively derivative if that came to pass.
I don't agree. Other M is together with Okami and Twlight Princess one of my favourite Wii games.

Mercurysteam's Castlevania should be a lesson learned on how not to remake a franchise. I don't want them to touch Contra and I certainly don't want them anywhere near Metroid.
That is the word.

Balloon Fight?
They could put in a back story on why the heck those creatures want to fly and pop the balloons of the others.
And it will be dark and realistic, and every time you beat a level, the narrator will repeat a variation of "Now the nightmare is over, the balloons were succesfully popped... but our hero knows there is a long road ahead of him... his strength is slowly abandoning him, and he doesn't know anymore if he is dreaming or he is awake; reality becomes confusing and the nightmarish landscapes surrounding him reinforce the illusion of being in hell... but he knows he must go on, for the sake of mankind... for the memory of his loved one... and for the truth to prevail. Go on, my friend! The gods are with you, and in time you will learn the story of our sacred order of balloon poppers!"
Something like Bomberman Zero, for example.
That's something MS could do, for sure.

What's a nintendo franchise that MS could do?

Hmmm.

Nothing at the moment  ???

Not F-zero that's for sure.

Maybe Ice Climber?
Or how about startropics?
They can always make a new F-Zero game where you have to escape the police and run against another opponents in the streets of an american city.
That will surely sell, they only need to make it look like Need For Speed and insert the F-Zero title and some classic character names here and there.
Title: Re: Metroid by MercurySteam?
Post by: KaZudra on March 11, 2013, 03:10:50 PM
yes, but only as a sequel, MS attempt to M. Night Castlevania worked once, but not twice.
Reboot-wise, I'd go with Ninja Theory, they could provide a very different take on space pirates.
Title: Re: Metroid by MercurySteam?
Post by: Lelygax on March 11, 2013, 03:19:16 PM
They should reboot Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde xD
Title: Re: Metroid by MercurySteam?
Post by: shelverton. on March 11, 2013, 04:30:43 PM
Why on earth would Nintendo want Mercury Steam to make a Metroid? Though I admit I said the same thing when I heard about Team Ninja and Other M.... But no. Just... no. Maybe Nintendo would ask someone else, possibly Platinum (if Bayonetta 2 works out well). But even that is unlikely.

I have absolutely no idea who I would want to make a Metroid game.

Unless....

I know I mention From Software a lot (when talking about the future of Castlevania at least), but I truly believe that the Souls games have a lot in common with classic Metroid when it comes to atmosphere, especially Super Metroid. You are kind of just left in a world without much guidance. The games are very eerie and mysterious. And Dark Souls is pretty much a Metroidvania. Sooo... maybe From Software (Souls team) could come up with something for Metroid? A third person Metroid reboot, in 3D, with the same kind of sprawling level design as in Dark Souls. They could do the likes of Brinstar and Tourian justice.

Nomnom.
Title: Re: Metroid by MercurySteam?
Post by: Flame on March 11, 2013, 06:32:59 PM
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I was talking about the game as a whole; I'm aware the story's repugnancy is Sakamoto's doing. I don't see anything redeeming about it in strictly mechanical terms either. Empty, dead corridors punctuated by grossly fetishistic encounters with plastic creature designs and not much else.
It's essentially Fusion 3D. I thought people liked Fusion.

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Mercurysteam's Castlevania should be a lesson learned on how not to remake a franchise.
That's like, your opinion dude.
Title: Re: Metroid by MercurySteam?
Post by: Puwexil on March 12, 2013, 06:37:01 AM
The frameworks between the two are similar, but Fusion's equivalent of a story isn't quite as embarrassing as Other M's "cinematic" disasterpiece, despite being forced upon the player roughly as often. I'll take the quiet dread of the SA-X and the Adam A.I.'s deadpan pragmatism over a bumbling cast of nobodies and nonsensical amateur hour drama, if it's a choice that has to be made.

Fusion locks you into a sequence way too often for its own good, but the actual level layouts and visual designs rate much better than Other M's desolate holodecks with all the charm of factory warehouses. The mechanics of exploration in the former are still in place fairly well, even if the game doesn't manage to do anything interesting with them. Other M might as well be entirely automated for how little agency it grants the player in covering its locales. It's an uninspired effort with superficial Metroid trappings laid on top.

I'd view Fusion as misguided and boring, which is still preferable to being clueless and inane.
Title: Re: Metroid by MercurySteam?
Post by: Maedhros on March 12, 2013, 07:37:13 AM
Keep them the fuck away from Metroid.

And Team Ninja too. Other M is a disgrace to the series.

Go back to Retro Studios Metroid. That's the best thing Nintendo can do now.
Title: Re: Metroid by MercurySteam?
Post by: Lelygax on March 12, 2013, 10:44:13 AM
Well, Metroid Prime needs a sequel since how the secret ending scenes ends in a cliffhanger. But I still prefer Metroid games that aren't a FPS.
Title: Re: Metroid by MercurySteam?
Post by: Flame on March 12, 2013, 12:18:47 PM
Still think Prime 1 was the best of the 3. It had awesome atmosphere. Prime 3 comes close, with Prime 2 dead last as totally boring and drawn out.
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Post by: Dark Nemesis on March 12, 2013, 01:06:27 PM
I have played only Metroid prime 1 and never made it to the end, because i never made it past that boss battle with Ridley. I would love to see another 2D Metroid game, since we haven't seen any, since the GBA days...........
Title: Re: Metroid by MercurySteam?
Post by: Profbeanburrito on March 12, 2013, 03:21:30 PM
I wouldn't complain if MercurySteam did a Metroid game. They've earned my faith in them. But I think Retro did a fantastic job with the Prime series and with doing DKC Returns, I think they could do a great job with  a 2.5D Metroid as well.

As or Other M, I enjoyed it. I don't think it's the disaster everyone makes it out to be, but I'd rather keep Retro on Metroid
Title: Re: Metroid by MercurySteam?
Post by: Lelygax on March 12, 2013, 03:49:00 PM
Retro really knows how to design environments and maps, if they try to do a 2.5D or 3D like in Other M they can be successful.
Title: Re: Metroid by MercurySteam?
Post by: X on March 13, 2013, 10:56:22 AM
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That's like, your opinion dude.

Yes. Yes it is.  :) Good Flame, have a cookie  :D
Title: Re: Metroid by MercurySteam?
Post by: Flame on March 13, 2013, 02:52:23 PM
*nom nom nom* :3
Title: Re: Metroid by MercurySteam?
Post by: darkwzrd4 on March 18, 2013, 12:42:41 PM
They simply will receive a great and flat no, its obvious. Team Ninja did a great job with Other M gameplay so if they call someone, it will be them.
I agree. Other M had great gameplay. From what I've seen, the thing most people have an issue with is the execution of the story. It made Samus too weak emotionally, which flies in the face of what has been established as her being a hardened bounty hunter.

Reconstructive surgery. A tranny operation gone horribly wrong!
Now that made me LMAO!!!! And given what MS did to Castlevania, it wouldn't suprise me if MS did something like this if they got to do a Metriod game. Thankfully, I doubt Team Ninja will let them. Hell, Team Ninja should make another Metriod game soon. They just need to keep Sakamoto away from writing the story.
Title: Re: Metroid by MercurySteam?
Post by: Munchy on March 18, 2013, 08:18:56 PM
If it were MercurySteam by themselves, I wouldn't really be that interested. But since it's Nintendo, they would likely work first-hand with MS and watch them like a hawk (see Metroid Primes, DKCR, Punch-Out!!!, etc), so that could end up being very interesting.

I imagine Nintendo would sooner hand it to some studio they've worked with a lot already, though. Whatever Nintendo's gotta do, I just want a new 2D one.
Title: Re: Metroid by MercurySteam?
Post by: Mathias_The_Resolute on March 18, 2013, 10:25:14 PM
(My reaction at this thread) http://youtu.be/WWaLxFIVX1s (http://youtu.be/WWaLxFIVX1s)