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Re: Chaos And Dracula
« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2018, 08:50:18 AM »
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This is why I like Mathias, he is no Griffith, but unlike Vlad, he wasn't born into nobility waiting to inherit a throne. He was a human who has acquired god-like powers through his own means.

Dracula in the Bram Stoker novel also obtain powers through his own means after losing his wife to suicide. And if I'm not mistaken Mathias would have had to be born of some form of nobility or high ranking social status in order to acquire the position that he was in LoI. No commander of an army during that time period was going to hire a lower class man with no battle experience to become his most trusted tactician during one of history's most bloodiest wars.
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Re: Chaos And Dracula
« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2018, 08:56:29 AM »
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Dracula in the Bram Stoker novel also obtain powers through his own means after losing his wife to suicide. And if I'm not mistaken Mathias would have had to be born of some form of nobility or high ranking social status in order to acquire the position that he was in LoI. No commander of an army during that time period was going to hire a lower class man with no battle experience to become his most trusted tactician during one of history's most bloodiest wars.

He was already a count during the time of LoI.

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Re: Chaos And Dracula
« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2018, 09:47:49 AM »
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Dracula in the Bram Stoker novel also obtain powers through his own means after losing his wife to suicide. And if I'm not mistaken Mathias would have had to be born of some form of nobility or high ranking social status in order to acquire the position that he was in LoI. No commander of an army during that time period was going to hire a lower class man with no battle experience to become his most trusted tactician during one of history's most bloodiest wars.

I thought Dracula loosing his wife that drives him to become a vampire was only brought up in Coppola's 1992 movie adaptation, correct me if I'm wrong.

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Re: Chaos And Dracula
« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2018, 09:56:36 AM »
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I thought Dracula loosing his wife that drives him to become a vampire was only brought up in Coppola's 1992 movie adaptation, correct me if I'm wrong.

That's right. And contrary to what many people say, Dracula isn't Vlad Tepes in the original novel, but rather a descendant

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Re: Chaos And Dracula
« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2018, 09:57:01 AM »
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Dracula in the Bram Stoker novel also obtain powers through his own means after losing his wife to suicide. And if I'm not mistaken Mathias would have had to be born of some form of nobility or high ranking social status in order to acquire the position that he was in LoI. No commander of an army during that time period was going to hire a lower class man with no battle experience to become his most trusted tactician during one of history's most bloodiest wars.

He was already a count during the time of LoI.

Be that as it may, there's still a large gap between a Count and a King.

I thought Dracula loosing his wife that drives him to become a vampire was only brought up in Coppola's 1992 movie adaptation, correct me if I'm wrong.

I don't specifically recall this brought up in the novel either.
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Re: Chaos And Dracula
« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2018, 01:37:34 PM »
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I'm going to be contrarian and offer my own interpretation of the Dracula-Chaos relationship.

I don't think that's being contrarian at all. It even uses the power of Dominance to challenge Soma's, as if it were wrestling the control from him. The rotating thing being the evil will of Dracula makes perfect sense.
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Re: Chaos And Dracula
« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2018, 03:00:02 PM »
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That's right. And contrary to what many people say, Dracula isn't Vlad Tepes in the original novel, but rather a descendant
Right it in fact does say this
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So this Lead one to think that it is his own race so it could be an ancestor. how ever then this is said

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Then in  Chapter 25 Both Mina and van helsing both talk about if the count was the same person that battled the turks, or it was one of his one of his race, that again could be an ancestor.

Its also worth  noting that to stoker came across the name Dracula, when he was look at Romanian history, and picked this name the F******  bad name  Count Wampyr. Also there was never in talk of Vlad III in his notes on the book.

So what i take from this is that, he wanted to the keep Count Dracula separate from Vlad III. But at the same time keep some mystery. So i have to say that i always saw him as the same, but its one of thsoe things thats never been confirmed.
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