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Title: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: DoctaMario on June 09, 2013, 02:19:50 AM
So I just started playing CV Judgment and I think it's a really fun game. At first I was like:

O_o

But now I'm like:

:-D

It's fun. The characters are pretty easy to use, and while I hate some of the designs, much like Castlevania Puzzle, Pachislot, or The Arcade, I think it's a cool diversion from the normal series. Flame away...

I really do think it's a worthy entry into the Castlevania series though. It's a good look to have different kinds of games present in a series and Judgment is definitely different as far as CV is concerned. But I think they did do a good job with it. It's really kind of like Smash Bros but for the CV series and they really did a good job putting a lot of fanservice into the game, which is basically the whole point. I don't think they meant it to be a serious effort in the CV cannon,  but it's something fun for the fans, and I think the game itself was kind of misunderstood, but that's just me.
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: Pfil on June 09, 2013, 03:06:12 AM
Well, that makes at least two of us  ;)

I also enjoyed it for what it was, and I pretty much agree with your point of view.
I first I didn't like it, really. Only the music.
But in time, the game catched me, because, well... it's Castlevania, after all.
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on June 09, 2013, 05:15:18 AM
I played the hell out of the game back when I got it.

The music is probably the best part of the game, as the tracks are faithful yet remastered.
The designs are 'argh' but I got over that real quick.

Who's your fave character to play as?  I dig playing as Shanoa and Carmilla, but Cornell is 'a beast' as well. :P
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: Dominus on June 09, 2013, 06:34:41 AM
I like it aswell. Never finished it on Brutal though, too hard.

I wonder how those masks look
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: Nagumo on June 09, 2013, 08:16:13 AM
....

What's wrong with the designs from the Arcade? They are great.
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: Phoenix7786 on June 09, 2013, 08:16:29 AM
For me, Simon, Shanoa, and (believe it or not) Golem seemed to be my best.
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: Kingshango on June 09, 2013, 08:47:27 AM
Judgement is one of those games you're not suppose to like but you like it anyway. Kinda like one of the many Street Fighter 2 clones of the 90's outside of Mortal Kombat and King of Fighters.
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on June 09, 2013, 08:51:47 AM
C'mon, World Heroes and TMNT:Tournament Fighters were good stuff.
Also, good Golem players have found out how to break the game, at times.  Rawrgh ROLLOUT.
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: DoctaMario on June 09, 2013, 10:12:04 AM
I played the hell out of the game back when I got it.

The music is probably the best part of the game, as the tracks are faithful yet remastered.
The designs are 'argh' but I got over that real quick.

Who's your fave character to play as?  I dig playing as Shanoa and Carmilla, but Cornell is 'a beast' as well. :P

Yeah I just got it so I've been playing it a lot. So far I think Carmilla might be my character but I really want to use Trevor. Simon kinda sucks which bummede out. :( But I haven't used everyone yet so I'm still figuring it out.

....

What's wrong with the designs from the Arcade? They are great.

Nothing. I guess I just forgot to put a a in or something. I donniave a problem with the designs of any of the other games I mentioned. I was referring
To Judgment's designs.

C'mon, World Heroes and TMNT:Tournament Fighters were good stuff.
Also, good Golem players have found out how to break the game, at times.  Rawrgh ROLLOUT.

Are there a lot of people playing online? And did anyone ever establish any kind of tier list for the game?
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: Flame on June 09, 2013, 10:17:09 AM
The biggest gripe folks have with Judgement is the designs really. they are really hit or miss.
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: X on June 09, 2013, 11:02:34 AM
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The biggest gripe folks have with Judgement is the designs really. they are really hit or miss.

Indeed. This is one of my only gripes with the game despite the fact that I've never played it. Grant looks like a mummy or someone who's suffered an industrial accident. Simon and Trevor are nearly identical rather then sporting their own identities, as well as looking like a couple of leather-tight man-whores looking for a pimp. A Grant, Sypha and Trevor love triangle..?? I don't think so. And then there's the issue with Maria oogling that other woman's bust size despite the fact that back in the day women didn't care about such things unlike nowadays. Shanoa's design was actually pretty interesting. Carmilla was another as well. Alucard...not so much. I figure that the SotN nobleman's look suits him better then that of a knight, and his hair was a little too straight as though he was Asian rather then Romanian. And what the hell is up with Aeon's lip stick. That's the first thing I notice whenever I see an image of him. I did give the soundtrack a listen to, but I didn't find anything much there that grabbed my attention.
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: Neobelmont on June 09, 2013, 11:27:05 AM
The biggest gripe folks have with Judgement is the designs really. they are really hit or miss.

Yep Simon is light, maria is misa,  :P

But cornell is awesome and sypha well....    ;D
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: darkwzrd4 on June 09, 2013, 01:51:36 PM
The biggest gripe folks have with Judgement is the designs really. they are really hit or miss.
Don't remind me. Yuck!!! The character designs should have been more faithful the the games. For example, Trevor as he appeared in CoD, Alucard as he appeared in SotN, etc. On the other hand, Corrnel's appearance was good. His appearance in Judgment is the only design I don't have a problem with.
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: Belmontoya on June 09, 2013, 02:58:01 PM
I would rather just play soul calibur with my custom made CV characters any time. They look more true to Castlevania than the character designs in judgement anyways.
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on June 09, 2013, 03:00:41 PM
Are there a lot of people playing online? And did anyone ever establish any kind of tier list for the game?

When the game was popular, tiers were determined.
There's a thread for CVJudgment ID's/FC's posted but I don't know how many play.
The online is pretty smooth, at least for me.  It's not laggy like Brawl was at times...

I 'think' this was our old Tier List:

[Top]
Aeon
Shanoa

[High]
Eric
Alucard
Maria

[Mid]
Grant
Cornell
Sypha

[Low]
Trevor
Carmilla
Death
Simon

[Bottom]
Dracula
Golem

However, this was before people learned how overpowered Dracula can be, and how versatile the giant Golem can be when doing dodge-escapes via Rollout.

OLD THREAD:
Clicky! (http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php?topic=1825.0)

Once the game matured, it was determined that there really aren't tiers much because no one can agree on any one character being any better/worse than another.  At first, Sypha was down, then she was up.  Then Shanoa went to top tier, then Aeon because he can combo into an unblockable.  Then Golem moved up, then Dracula.  At one point Trevor and Simon were the shittiest, then people learned that they have better Air game than other characters.

Sooooo it's STILL undecided, even after all these years, haha.




Don't remind me. Yuck!!! The character designs should have been more faithful the the games. For example, Trevor as he appeared in CoD, Alucard as he appeared in SotN, etc. On the other hand, Corrnel's appearance was good. His appearance in Judgment is the only design I don't have a problem with.


Eh, I really don't have a problem with these designs:
-Sypha (Mmm... she's all sorts of nice)
-Carmilla (mmm... she's all sorts of naughty)
-Golem (looks like a boss)
-Cornell (just badass awesome)


These are ok:
-Aeon (it will do)
-Alucard (it's not SotN, but it's not a dealbreaker much)
-Shanoa (she doesn't have the look of OoE, but I like the 'fighting nun' look.  I do miss the long hair though)
-Trevor (although I don't dig how full of belts he is, I like the short hair, eyepatch, and fur outfit).


These are... passable:
-Simon Belmont (anachronistic, and needed more plate armor and less leather)
-Eric Lecarde (he looks really plain.  Most people just had beef with him being a kid, rather than the adult Bloodlines version.  Also he's kind of a dick.  But again, his only design flaw is that it's quite plain)


The eyesore atrocious ones really are:
-Grant (WTF Voldo?)
-Dracula (steampipe nipples in the cape)
-Maria (Punkrock Goth chick with a birdcage staff? Call PETA, that owl must have a million concussions)
-Death (really not digging the Shinigami look or the hook-hand, or the fact that his 'face' is a mask; Time Reaper was more Death-like... and even he brings it up "Even your visage mocks me, die!")
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: Flame on June 09, 2013, 03:28:34 PM
I like Trevor Beltmont. The eyepatch was a nice touch, and his design works, unlike Simon's, who is just Light Yagami.

relevant:

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Trevor's theme is also one of the best renditions of Beginning ever.
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: Maedhros on June 09, 2013, 05:54:28 PM
Everyone like some shit that most of the other people don't, seriously.

For example, I love a game called Tobal on PSX. No ONE likes that shit.
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: crisis on June 09, 2013, 06:16:28 PM
Dude I like Tobal too! Although most people bought it for the sole reason to play the FFVII demo, hah
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: Maedhros on June 09, 2013, 07:07:50 PM
Dude I like Tobal too! Although most people bought it for the sole reason to play the FFVII demo, hah
Exactly. But I ended liking it. :P

Quest mode.
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on June 09, 2013, 07:15:18 PM
I like Tobal, Ergheiz, and Power Stone.
So Judgment was kinda right up my alley.
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: MKKhanzo on June 09, 2013, 09:10:49 PM
So I just started playing CV Judgment and I think it's a really fun game. At first I was like:

O_o

But now I'm like:

:-D

It's fun. The characters are pretty easy to use, and while I hate some of the designs, much like Castlevania Puzzle, Pachislot, or The Arcade, I think it's a cool diversion from the normal series. Flame away...

I really do think it's a worthy entry into the Castlevania series though. It's a good look to have different kinds of games present in a series and Judgment is definitely different as far as CV is concerned. But I think they did do a good job with it. It's really kind of like Smash Bros but for the CV series and they really did a good job putting a lot of fanservice into the game, which is basically the whole point. I don't think they meant it to be a serious effort in the CV cannon,  but it's something fun for the fans, and I think the game itself was kind of misunderstood, but that's just me.

 You are not alone. We here in Venezuela managed to held 8 tourneys (1 monthhly) for the game and gathered like 10 players in each. We got pretty hardcore into the game (read: hardcore =/= good haha) and loved everything from it.

 If you guys like, check my YT playlists with ALL of the tourneys recorded (200 vids), and specially the last one, in wich we managed to outnumber MK9 with 29 entrants HA!

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdsphO0F4xrmva_1HzgjtPbYR55gt4Lfk (http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdsphO0F4xrmva_1HzgjtPbYR55gt4Lfk)

A few stuff here and there and the game would be pretty balanced. I used low tier Simon and managed some good results after a lot of hard work!
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: SaibotMK on June 09, 2013, 11:07:17 PM
I liked Judgment a lot as well, I really wish the game was released on PC or even 360/PS3.
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: Super Waffle on June 09, 2013, 11:10:30 PM
It's responsible for Shanoa's Judgment redesign and some music remixes.

That's about the other thing it's good for.
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: Kaori on June 10, 2013, 08:12:11 AM
I actually had a lot of fun playing Judgment with my friends! I used to bring a bunch of games/game systems to my friends' houses because I was the person who had all the multiplayer games. We had WAY to much fun with that game...more than we should have. I'm pretty sure us making commentary and dressing up the characters also helped us enjoy the game more. I also really enjoy the music in Judgment. I still have numerous tracks from it on my playlist.

Nowadays one of my friends has the multiplayer games we play, and I don't really buy multiplayer games anymore aside from fighting games.
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: GuyStarwind on June 10, 2013, 12:39:32 PM
I always thought Judgment was a blast too. Like most have said the character designs were... different and for me personally I wish I could skip the special moves. They're cool the first few times but then it's a little too much.
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: Pfil on June 10, 2013, 01:20:56 PM
At the time I wasn't very keen of a fighter. I was just waiting for the next MetroidVania to come out.
Right now, I'd be 100% invested in a Judgment 2. I'd be thrilled if they announce it (provided they keep it japanese in look and CV-ish in music).
The soundtrack was totally awesome.
And my favourite characters were, of course, Shanoa and Maria  :)
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: Maedhros on June 10, 2013, 03:45:00 PM
Sometimes I like that Konami don't really hear anyone from this site... :P
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: DoctaMario on June 10, 2013, 03:51:19 PM
I liked Judgment a lot as well, I really wish the game was released on PC or even 360/PS3.

Actually I'm playing it on my PC.  :-X

Sometimes I like that Konami don't really hear anyone from this site... :P

And why is that?
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: beingthehero on June 10, 2013, 05:04:19 PM
Man, I expected nothing from this game yet I had a ton of fun with it. I played it obsessively last fall. Too bad it got the reviews it did; the game wasn't anything particularly special but beyond the character designs it wasn't god awful either.

I actually like Simon's redesign, chuu~
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: Pfil on June 10, 2013, 09:55:04 PM
Actually I'm playing it on my PC.  :-X
That's nice! The game looks great in HD!

And why is that?
It must be because I said that at this point I would be more invested in Judgment 2 than in "some other" kind of game (meaning that Judgment 2 (heck, even Harmony of Despair 2) would be better than another reboot type or epic grand game for me).
I know it could get annoying for some people, but it is way more difficult to be in my place. Since Order of Eclessia I'm waiting for the new Castlevania. And, in a weird way, Judgment and Harmony of Despair kind of filled that empty space all this time that I'm enduring, waiting for the MS trilogy to end.
I wish it would already be 2014 so we know what the future of Castlevania is.
In the meantime, it's unavoidable for me to say things like that, from time to time (respectfully, of course).
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: SaibotMK on June 10, 2013, 09:56:43 PM
Actually I'm playing it on my PC.  :-X

Nice, I had forgot that it is possible to do that, thanks  :)
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: Pfil on June 10, 2013, 10:06:50 PM
You can see it in HD. Wii games (also PS2 games) look awesome when emulated on a PC.
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on June 11, 2013, 03:06:49 AM
I wish it would already be 2014 so we know what the future of Castlevania is.

Ehehehe! Patience is a virtue my friend.

I doubt they'll make a Judgment 2.
I say, bring in the pachislots!
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: VladCT on June 11, 2013, 05:05:32 AM
I say, bring in the pachislots!
If anything, they always bring an awesome main theme with them.
Castlevania Pachi-Slot OST: Trezier de Spirit ~Big Bonus~ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hp2-qT7LWZA#)
Castlevania PachiSlot II OST: Capriccio of the Scarlet Moon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4dGj07eRmM#)
Akumajou Dracula Pachislot Ⅲ OST: De-a lungul vieţii ~BIGボーナス~ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsdr_vFbKOI#ws)
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: DoctaMario on June 11, 2013, 08:35:54 AM
Man, I expected nothing from this game yet I had a ton of fun with it. I played it obsessively last fall. Too bad it got the reviews it did; the game wasn't anything particularly special but beyond the character designs it wasn't god awful either.

I actually like Simon's redesign, chuu~

I guess that's it. I remember everyone hating on this game when it came out, but the more I play it, the more fun I have. It's not deep but it is a good time. I could play this one with my gal and she could do pretty well with it without having to memorize move lists.

How are you man? It's been a long time!
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: Nagumo on June 11, 2013, 08:42:32 AM
I wonder if someone now has the guts to make a "So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o" thread.

 :)
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on June 11, 2013, 08:46:48 AM
Some people still play Harmony of Despair.
I'm not one of those people, but I know they exist!

Man, you guys have got me now hankering for some online Judgment action.  We should set up an evening and play together.


And yes, Wii Games on a PC look AMAZING!
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Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: Pfil on June 11, 2013, 10:35:42 AM
Some people still play Harmony of Despair.
I'm not one of those people, but I know they exist!
I'm one of them. I still can't beat the advanced chapters with Charlotte.

And yes, Wii Games on a PC look AMAZING!
Indeed!

I wonder if someone now has the guts to make a "So...I actually really like Harmony of Despair...0_o" thread.

 :)
Challenge accepted  :)

I guess that's it. I remember everyone hating on this game when it came out, but the more I play it, the more fun I have. It's not deep but it is a good time. I could play this one with my gal and she could do pretty well with it without having to memorize move lists.

How are you man? It's been a long time!
That's how it worked for me  :)
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on June 11, 2013, 10:31:58 PM
Man, you guys have got me now hankering for some online Judgment action.  We should set up an evening and play together.

Ohhh... someone should upload some CVD battle videos.  :)
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: son_the_vampire on June 12, 2013, 03:38:03 AM
Never played this online but I would enjoy the first chance I get. Haven't rocked my faves (Death and Maria) for a short long time. It might be the fact that I'm on Harmony of Despair a lot more than I should be. How do u find your friend code on the wii?
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: DoctaMario on June 12, 2013, 04:56:13 AM
Some people still play Harmony of Despair.
I'm not one of those people, but I know they exist!

Man, you guys have got me now hankering for some online Judgment action.  We should set up an evening and play together.

Maaan that'd be awesome! I wish I had a real Wii now unless anyone knows a way to play thr Dolphin emu online. Which I can't imagine would be all that great just yet. Still though, that'd be really fun!

Ohhh... someone should upload some CVD battle videos.  :)

Actually I'd be pretty interested to see those so I concur! :)
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on June 12, 2013, 09:12:54 AM
I have Dolphin, but I also own it on my Wii and can play 2-player 'cuz my Wii uses it as ISO and my Wii-U uses the disc. ;)
I am not savvy on how much has progressed in terms of Dolphin features, so I'm not sure if online play is operational on there.

If it is, I can play using the PC version as well. Bwahahaa.

"Apologies, but I cannot allow myself to be defeated."
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: Dark Nemesis on June 12, 2013, 12:24:28 PM
After reading this topic, i decided to give it a shot, but instead of seting up my wii, i've tried it on dolphin, i've only tried a little the castle mode and it's not so bad as i thought that it might be, but still movement control, along with some kind of auto targeting?, can't say for sure, is a little clunky.
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: GuyStarwind on June 12, 2013, 12:47:59 PM
This topic makes me want to play this game now. I only use Belmonts and Death but hey it's good stuff.
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on June 12, 2013, 01:33:03 PM
Please play with the Classic Controller.  It's the best way to play IMO.
Also... man, Carmilla is STILL such a hottie... mmm...
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: crisis on June 12, 2013, 01:33:18 PM
Ya see I could simply hook up my Wii & play this game since everyone is talking about it again, but if I do that, I'll automatically see the Adventure ReBirth icon, thus the possibility of me putting the Judgment disc in the Wii significantly decreases.
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on June 12, 2013, 01:37:52 PM
Those are both good options. :o
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: Neobelmont on June 12, 2013, 01:46:43 PM
Ohhh... someone should upload some CVD battle videos.  :)

I wish I could upload but I can't, yet I have no problem being an opponent so bring it or (I can't wait to use this)



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or sis   ;)

But really playing as simon again might be fun.
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: GuyStarwind on June 12, 2013, 01:49:47 PM
Watching CVD battles would be fun. I'm not going to challenge anyone here because I would get rocked hard.
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: Neobelmont on June 12, 2013, 01:54:54 PM
Watching CVD battles would be fun. I'm not going to challenge anyone here because I would get rocked hard.

Then get rocked with style  8) I'll go down kicking.
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: crisis on June 12, 2013, 01:57:32 PM
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Those are both good options. :o

Has anyone even attempted to emulate ReBirth yet? I'm dying to replay it, but don't wanna go through the hassle of untangling wires & clearing cobwebs behind my TV to hook up the Wii just to kill a vampire :/

I mean, we can land a man on the moon, but we can't emulate WiiWare games?! sheesh
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on June 12, 2013, 02:02:41 PM
As far as I know, Rebirth plays just fine. O_o;

However, I'm not compelled to play it on the PC since I have it on Wii...
Castlevania Rebirth on Dolphin R5215 x64 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue76YdVwWu4#ws)
But it is possible, as you can see...
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: beingthehero on June 12, 2013, 08:19:57 PM
How are you man? It's been a long time!

I knooooooowwww...

I'm still dwelling with Pekio, Diplo, and Nightmare on the fringes of the internet. Pekio still comes to post once every six months or so. Personally speaking, I live on the east coast now and work in D.C. for big gubmint.

I tried to emulate Rebirth once on laptop with a Wii emulator, I think it was called Dolphin. It didn't go so well. ;_;
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: Dark Nemesis on June 13, 2013, 12:37:46 AM
Please play with the Classic Controller.  It's the best way to play IMO.
Also... man, Carmilla is STILL such a hottie... mmm...

I'm using classic controller, but when i tried to attack a candle, he turns backwards and goes after enemies.......
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: DoctaMario on June 13, 2013, 08:52:23 AM
Has anyone even attempted to emulate ReBirth yet? I'm dying to replay it, but don't wanna go through the hassle of untangling wires & clearing cobwebs behind my TV to hook up the Wii just to kill a vampire :/

I mean, we can land a man on the moon, but we can't emulate WiiWare games?! sheesh

I knooooooowwww...

I'm still dwelling with Pekio, Diplo, and Nightmare on the fringes of the internet. Pekio still comes to post once every six months or so. Personally speaking, I live on the east coast now and work in D.C. for big gubmint.

I tried to emulate Rebirth once on laptop with a Wii emulator, I think it was called Dolphin. It didn't go so well. ;_;

Yep, I've got Rebirth working great on my laptop, so give it a whirl. Dolphin may have improved a good bit since you guys last tried to do it.

Hero, are you guys still hanging out at the Chapel?
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: Pfil on June 13, 2013, 10:29:15 AM
Please play with the Classic Controller.  It's the best way to play IMO.
Also... man, Carmilla is STILL such a hottie... mmm...
That's the spirit!  :)
Title: Re: So....I actually really like Judgment... O_o
Post by: Lashen on June 13, 2013, 10:55:30 AM
I play as Grant, mostly.

Never played online before, is that possible or am I wrong (rarely use the Wii)? If so, does it lag at all?
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Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on June 13, 2013, 11:59:18 AM
Depends on the combination of the two connections.
My connection is awesome, but if the other person's connection is shit, then we both get shit. xD
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Post by: Neobelmont on June 13, 2013, 12:06:42 PM
Bact to the matter at hand.

When can we make a cvd gauntlet?

 
Please play with the Classic Controller.  It's the best way to play IMO.
Also... man, Carmilla is STILL such a hottie... mmm...

I use my wavebird as for carmilla ehh... I prefer Sypha which reminds me

I'm on Maria's side  :P

Castlevania Judgement - They are huge! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SyYIo03X0E#)

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Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on June 13, 2013, 04:32:57 PM
Oh that thing.  That thing has made that game infamous.
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Post by: Pfil on June 13, 2013, 11:09:37 PM
But it was so fun!  :)
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Post by: chainsawmidget on June 13, 2013, 11:25:09 PM

I use my wavebird as for carmilla ehh... I prefer Sypha which reminds me

I'm on Maria's side  :P

Castlevania Judgement - They are huge! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SyYIo03X0E#)
Dammit, Japan.  Why do you have to be so Japan-like?
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Post by: DoctaMario on June 18, 2013, 02:28:49 PM
How do you unlock Dracula and Death and the rest of the characters? Just beat everyone's story mode?
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Post by: Pfil on June 18, 2013, 02:39:08 PM
You have to beat the game twice with every character to get to the final boss and true ending.
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Post by: DoctaMario on June 18, 2013, 11:47:11 PM
Like story mode twice, arcade mode twice, story mode AND arcade mode? I'm definitely going to do it whatever it is but....I also wish The Arcade was available for Wii so I could play that one too!
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Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on June 19, 2013, 10:17:04 AM
Yeah you gotta beat it with every character to unlock "True Story Mode", as each character's first ending is a 'key' that Aeon uses to meld the timelines back.
However, to truly mend the timelines the strongest character needs to defeat the final boss.

This means that to see the true endings and what happened to every character, you have to beat the game with each of them.  This includes Aeon, who is unlocked after the first endings are done for the other characters, from what I recall.

I haven't unlocked everything in Castle Mode but you don't really get anything with that mode aside from the unlockable trinkets, I believe.
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Post by: Inccubus on June 20, 2013, 08:53:37 AM
I'd give my left nut for a model hack of this game.
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Post by: beingthehero on June 21, 2013, 07:21:17 PM
I really wished we could have gotten models of both original Simon and Chronicles Simon in this game.
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Post by: DoctaMario on June 23, 2013, 12:31:01 AM
Yeah that would have been awesome. The designs in this game really are butt-ugly. Dunno what made anyone there at Konami think they were a good idea. :P
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Post by: Shiroi Koumori on June 23, 2013, 01:04:36 AM
One of IGA's staff was a former assistant for Takeshi Obata of Death Note. So the entire team decided to ask this staff person to go and ask Takeshi if he can do illustrations for Judgment. We all know what happened next.

And also, Death Note is popular in Japan.
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Post by: DoctaMario on June 23, 2013, 01:47:19 PM
One of IGA's staff was a former assistant for Takeshi Obata of Death Note. So the entire team decided to ask this staff person to go and ask Takeshi if he can do illustrations for Judgment. We all know what happened next.

And also, Death Note is popular in Japan.

Bleh. To me it's more the characters that don't even look like themselves that I have a problem with like Grant and Eric. Simon's design sucks too, but those two were the ones I had the most problem with.
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Post by: Dark Nemesis on June 24, 2013, 02:26:52 AM
Grant is super ugly and at the same time so cheap character..........
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Post by: Pfil on June 24, 2013, 02:31:05 PM
Some designs were nice, like Maria (who looks like her Death Note counterpart, anyway), Sypha and Shanoa.
And Aeon is a really cool new character.
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Post by: DoctaMario on June 24, 2013, 03:06:45 PM
Grant is super ugly and at the same time so cheap character..........

Yeah I hate dealing with him. SUch a pain in the ass. xP

Some designs were nice, like Maria (who looks like her Death Note counterpart, anyway), Sypha and Shanoa.
And Aeon is a really cool new character.

Yeah I especially liked Shanoa and Aeon's designs! Most of the rest were meh though.
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Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on June 24, 2013, 05:59:38 PM
We should set up a Judgment Night.

Also, if you have a few hours, you all should watch "Judgment Night".
Here, I'll help by posting this obligatory full-length movie:

JUDGMENT NIGHT (1993) Emilio Estevez - Full Movie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsYiAIIDFOA#ws)
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Post by: DoctaMario on June 26, 2013, 02:36:41 PM
My connection blows and I'm not sure Dolphin can even do online.  :-[ Otherwise I'd be ALLLL over that Jorge.
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Post by: Neobelmont on June 27, 2013, 02:39:44 PM
We should set up a Judgment Night.


I say friday and weekends. Can't beat that                   
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Post by: beingthehero on June 27, 2013, 02:59:09 PM
Man I am all for a Friday night judgin'.

I am awful at the game though so I would be the group's Glass Joe.
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Post by: Laina on June 27, 2013, 08:21:22 PM
If I owned a copy, this would have me frothing at the mouth. Always down for some good old fashioned friendly brawling. Maria & Osca FTW!
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Post by: Kaori on June 27, 2013, 09:35:35 PM
It's been a really long time since I've played Judgment, and I wasn't super great at it to begin with, but fighting against you all sounds like fun.  ;)
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Post by: uzo on June 27, 2013, 10:29:47 PM
This might be of interest to me as well.

We need to nail down a few things:
- What date and time to do it
- What communication software (ie Skype, Google Hangout, etc), preferably a voice chat
- Rough duration of time this getogether will last
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Post by: Shiroi Koumori on June 28, 2013, 01:35:22 AM
I wonder if someone would record some fights for those of us who can't join in the fun.
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Post by: uzo on June 28, 2013, 06:45:28 AM
It wouldn't really be possible to get them all. It is not like anyone but the two players fighting can see them at the time of the match. I don't recall the game having a replay save system, did it?
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Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on June 28, 2013, 08:05:03 AM
You'd need a capture device hooked up to the tv/wii somehow (in a way that doesn't cause a delay - like some kind of double feed where one output goes to the TV for gameplay, and another goes to a capture device), unless it's being played through Dolphin Only in which case it can be livestreamed or something.
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Post by: uzo on June 28, 2013, 08:11:56 AM
Can you even get online play with an emulator?
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Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on June 28, 2013, 09:01:57 AM
We should try it, Uzo. ;)
I saw some gameplay footage of Dolphin supposedly doing the online thing.

Not sure if the Dolphin online is the same as the regular Wii online, or if it was done in some other fashion.

Dolphin Netplay Guide (http://dolphin-emu.org/docs/guides/netplay-guide/)
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Post by: uzo on June 28, 2013, 09:51:52 AM
Looks like standard emulator netplay functionality, where it pretends you're both playing locally. IE not using Nintendo's netplay servers. Insane as it may sound, it could actually be better than Nintendo's system provided you don't desync.

Can dolphin use the actual game disk and memory data from my Wii SD card?
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Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on June 28, 2013, 10:43:05 AM
It can use the disc, IFF your disc drive is compatible.
Most aren't, though.  But you may get lucky.
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Post by: uzo on June 28, 2013, 10:48:08 AM
http://kotaku.com/5866481/how-to-play-wii-games-in-high-definition-on-your-pc (http://kotaku.com/5866481/how-to-play-wii-games-in-high-definition-on-your-pc)

Here is a tutorial on how to take your game disk, make a file of it, and use it with the emulator. This should get us partially there at least. Whoever is interested should try this out and make sure they can get it working ahead of time. Then we can figure out how the netplay works and test it.
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Post by: Laina on June 28, 2013, 11:54:31 AM
I wonder if someone would record some fights for those of us who can't join in the fun.

This is something that they covered in SSFIV:AE-they have a replay system & a "spectator Mode" in the Endless Battle setting. Anyone who's on the roster for the fight can watch the two going at it at that moment. I've seen some great brawls between Neo & Son this way.

This doesn't have a whole lot to do with CV Judgment, I just really like Street Fighter & it was a neat addition I thought.
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Post by: Pfil on June 28, 2013, 07:09:47 PM
I can't play online because my Wii uses downloaded ISO's.
I would love to see battles between members of the Dungeon, please upload videos!
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Post by: Kaori on June 29, 2013, 06:11:17 AM
Playing through Dolphin is out of the question for me. My good computer is kinda broken until I can get the money to fix it, and I do not have a bluetooth adapter or a wireless sensor bar. I mean, I COULD try buying a bluetooth adapter since I don't really need the sensor bar (I can use the classic controller to get through the Wii menu) and try playing on this old laptop, but it probably wouldn't work well, lol.

I could still probably play on my Wii though, I think. My Wii is hacked, but I could still play Judgment online...right? I actually haven't played anything online on my Wii in ages. If I did play on the Wii I would probably be able to also record my footage with my Elgato HD capture device. :P
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Post by: uzo on June 29, 2013, 09:25:59 AM
You don't need an actual Wii remote, you can use a any game pad or keyboard. But yes, if your PC doesn't have the horse power that could be an issue. At least give it a try.

If not I guess we can do some actual Wii matches as well. That is, provided the game server is still up, haha.
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Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on June 29, 2013, 09:54:44 AM
Online matches with the regular Wii still work as far as I know.
The only issue would be that no one could see them unless someone has a capture cart to 'catch' the matches and stream them.

Unfortunately I do not have such a device.
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Post by: Dark Nemesis on July 01, 2013, 12:30:52 PM
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.us%2Fa%2Fimg818%2F9643%2Fgu.jpg&hash=5f159d48d803b787c7144e99f14cc6a5)
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.us%2Fa%2Fimg545%2F231%2Fk9f8.jpg&hash=2227cfadd2dd2c532e0a1723f4ea75e0)
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Post by: Phoenix7786 on July 01, 2013, 04:17:24 PM
Absolutely awesome comic. Who is that in the top right, anyways? Just a regular gamer?
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Post by: Neobelmont on July 01, 2013, 04:54:27 PM


If not I guess we can do some actual Wii matches as well. That is, provided the game server is still up, haha.


I thought that was what we were talking about the whole time not no dang dolphin.



@ DN wonder if there is a simon one?
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Post by: DoctaMario on July 01, 2013, 05:45:03 PM
https://wiki.dolphin-emu.org/index.php?title=Netplay_Guide

So it looks like netplay IS possible with Dolphin, it's just a matter of how well it works. The plot thickens....
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Post by: Dark Nemesis on July 02, 2013, 02:10:04 AM
Absolutely awesome comic. Who is that in the top right, anyways? Just a regular gamer?


Yeah, she is just a regular gamer.
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Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on July 02, 2013, 07:35:23 AM
I tested the game out on Dolphin.
It runs beautifully as far as graphics and gameplay.

The sound however has this weird delayed echo effect.
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Post by: Dark Nemesis on July 02, 2013, 11:54:19 AM
I tested the game out on Dolphin.
It runs beautifully as far as graphics and gameplay.

The sound however has this weird delayed echo effect.

Even though outdated my PC, the game runs perfectly and without sound problems. Maybe it's your sound card or some sound configuration on Dolphin causing the problem?
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Post by: uzo on July 02, 2013, 12:35:36 PM
Mine runs OK up until a certain point, then it gets that repeating voices issue and sometimes scratchy continuous garbage. Happens usually on the Dungeon stage, or after X number of matches. Around 40 matches in, the game will just lock up and need to be reset.
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Post by: Dark Nemesis on July 02, 2013, 12:41:48 PM
Mine runs OK up until a certain point, then it gets that repeating voices issue and sometimes scratchy continuous garbage. Happens usually on the Dungeon stage, or after X number of matches. Around 40 matches in, the game will just lock up and need to be reset.

I haven't experience any of these.........i wonder what might be the issue?
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Post by: DoctaMario on July 03, 2013, 07:10:43 PM
Even though outdated my PC, the game runs perfectly and without sound problems. Maybe it's your sound card or some sound configuration on Dolphin causing the problem?

Could be the sound config. I read something somewhere about that cuz sometimes the sound distorts and gets delayed on mine and my computer is solid
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Post by: son_the_vampire on August 05, 2013, 08:20:16 AM
Ummm so I want ins on the mayhem. Wii preferably but I'm willing to give dolphin a shot. So how do I sign up for this?
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Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on August 05, 2013, 10:31:01 AM
I guess we just have to set up a time for it.
I am not sure I will be able to participate, nor do I have some kind of capture device so that others could see.
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Post by: Lelygax on August 05, 2013, 07:30:09 PM
I actually had a lot of fun playing Judgment with my friends! ... We had WAY to much fun with that game...more than we should have...

Teehee, that sounds so wrong ;D

I can't play online because my Wii uses downloaded ISO's.
I would love to see battles between members of the Dungeon, please upload videos!

Who said that great lie to you? You can play online even if your Wii uses a modchip, is modded in any way, play games from a HDD or whatever, its not Xbox lol

My wii is modded and I can play any game online without problems, also a friend of mine have a softmodded wii and plays online as well.

You dont need to update or anything, you only need to connect it to internet, enter in your game and thats it :P
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Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on August 09, 2013, 01:28:58 PM
Yeah, what Lelygax said.

It's systems that have a central network (PSN, XBLA) that you have a possibility of getting banned and losing your account.
Since there's no such thing as that for Wii, as long as you got a friendcode and a buddy, you can play online.
Some games even let you play online without that (Tatsunoko VS Capcom, Monster Hunter Tri' *I think*).

The only problem with online Wii ISO gaming is that if your ISO is modified in any way, you will get a disconnect because the two opposite data may not match, which would cause a problem (that's why when people play with Brawl+, Brawl-, or ProjectM, all members of the battle must have the exact same mod and version of mod, otherwise you'll desync and get a disconnect).
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Post by: Pfil on August 09, 2013, 02:13:16 PM
I'll look into it this weekend, I always wanted to try Mario Kart online, amongst others (like Judgment)  :)