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Title: Your favourite MetroidVania
Post by: Pfil on September 11, 2013, 04:38:23 PM
Since it features a map and some backtracking and exploration, I decided to include Mirror of Fate, because it resembles more a MetroidVania than a ClassicVania.
I also included both PS2 games, since the blue map and the RPG elements are present there, and Simon's Quest, because it was the first exploration Castlevania (though it didn't have a map, but it set the ground for what later CV would become for many games).
These are all very arbitrary decisions, and I didn't want to leave any possible vote out because of not including a game.
Title: Re: Your favourite MetroidVania
Post by: Pfil on September 11, 2013, 04:40:16 PM
Well, I tried to add Simon's Quest (NES) but it doesn't let me.
Please some mod can do it for me?
Thanks!  :)
Title: Re: Your favourite MetroidVania
Post by: Lelygax on September 11, 2013, 05:30:12 PM
You still can fix the older if you want

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Title: Re: Your favourite MetroidVania
Post by: X on September 11, 2013, 06:35:30 PM
SotN. It blew my mind when it first came out and I still enjoy it to this day.

Although I'm not sure LoI and CoD aren't so much metroidvanias as they are dungeon crawlers.
Title: Re: Your favourite MetroidVania
Post by: DoctaMario on September 11, 2013, 10:27:00 PM
I picked SoTN because I don't really consider Simon's Quest an MV. Symphony is like comfort food to me though. It's a game I pick up when I'm in an unfamiliar place and need something close to home. It's easy and it relaxes me. Even th CV Puzzle game helps somehow. Might be the music too...
Title: Re: Your favourite MetroidVania
Post by: Pfil on September 11, 2013, 10:51:34 PM
Oh, the music! It must be one of the albums I heard most in my entire life... I don't know, like... 500 times maybe.
Title: Re: Your favourite MetroidVania
Post by: DoctaMario on September 11, 2013, 11:06:52 PM
It truly has one of thr best soundtracks in the series. It and LoI are among my favorites.
Title: Re: Your favourite MetroidVania
Post by: Pfil on September 12, 2013, 12:18:08 AM
Mine are PoR, CoD, OoE and SotN (MV).
And in ClassicVania games, Bloodlines, without a doubt.
Title: Re: Your favourite MetroidVania
Post by: Dark Nemesis on September 12, 2013, 12:37:32 AM
Well, i voted for SotN, but i like the same SotN, along with AoS and OoE.
Title: Re: Your favourite MetroidVania
Post by: Pfil on September 12, 2013, 01:13:29 AM
Well, i voted for SotN, but i like the same SotN, along with AoS and OoE.
Excellent selection of 3 games!
Title: Re: Your favourite MetroidVania
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on September 12, 2013, 04:57:14 AM
Oh, this is easy. SotN.
It holds the title for being the very first ever video game soundtrack that I bought.
And my undying crush on Alucard (Thanks to Kojima's painting).
Title: Re: Your favourite MetroidVania
Post by: Puwexil on September 12, 2013, 08:05:35 AM
Symphony is a fantastic game. Some of the other ones have aspects of being fantastic games, but they sorely lack in one area or another. It's not like anyone pretends Symphony is perfect or faultless; it simply contains the most interesting riffs on a much-explored concept with the ablest craftsmanship to bring those elements together.
Title: Re: Your favourite MetroidVania
Post by: Intersection on September 12, 2013, 02:09:15 PM
I elected Circle of the Moon, confident I'd be the first to vote for it... but I was wrong, it seems. Who is that nameless hero who did so before me?  :o

But here's the problem: I share an equally fervent enthusiasm for each (true) Metroidvania game on this list. CoD and LoI are, I agree, closer to dungeon crawlers. SQ, well, doesn't really fit the category. And as for MoF... I'm speechless.

Now, the Metroidvania genre is invariably dominated by SoTN, and for very good reason. But I have mine for loving CoTM.
For one, it's the first Castlevania game I'd ever played. An ordinary visit to a friend's house, at the time it came out, had granted me that honor. And so, half a decade later, I had "Awake" still ringing off in the depths of my memory long after I'd forgotten up to its very name. A miracle had me encounter it at the end an aimless internet search...

But, objectively, here's how Concerto of the Midnight Sun can stand out from amongst its compatriots:
- It's the only Metroidvania (along with OoE) that had a truly challenging level of difficulty.
- Its Dual Setup System was one of a kind, offering an abilities system more diverse than Sorrow's.
- Its music was nothing short from incredible.
- Its visuals, while blurred by the GBA's dark screen, were artistically gorgeous.
Title: Re: Your favourite MetroidVania
Post by: Abnormal Freak on September 12, 2013, 03:02:34 PM
SOTN. Easily.

After that I'd probably say AOS.
Title: Re: Your favourite MetroidVania
Post by: Beaumont_Belmont on September 12, 2013, 04:08:34 PM
Circle of the Moon is my favorite. I feel it did a good job of melding the whip-wielding gameplay with the Metroid exploration, and I liked the difficulty. The DSS system was pretty cool to play around with, as well.

I like Symphony of the Night, but I feel that the inverted castle feels undercooked. The backgrounds only got a slightly different tint (I feel they should have been completely different) and there's not a lot of variation in music to make the areas feel unique like they did in the first half of the game. It's still a great game, I just wish there was more variation in it.
Title: Re: Your favourite MetroidVania
Post by: Lelygax on September 12, 2013, 06:03:46 PM
Harmony of Dissonance.
Title: Re: Your favourite MetroidVania
Post by: Pfil on September 12, 2013, 10:13:58 PM
It seems that SotN will be the champion with no problem.
Title: Re: Your favourite MetroidVania
Post by: beingthehero on September 13, 2013, 06:27:09 PM
It's a toss-up between AoS and OoE for me, but I voted for OoE. :/
Title: Re: Your favourite MetroidVania
Post by: Pfil on September 16, 2013, 03:19:36 PM
I'm surprised AoS didn't receive any vote.
And I thought MoF would receive at least 1, from someone who likes the MS universe.
Title: Re: Your favourite MetroidVania
Post by: Pfil on September 16, 2013, 03:22:26 PM
Oh, and can please some mod modify the original question?
It is incomplete, I forgot to complete it when I was writing the games...

It says "Which one is your favourite exploration"...
...when it must say "Which one is your favourite exploration Castlevania game?".

Thanks.
Title: Re: Your favourite MetroidVania
Post by: Gunlord on September 17, 2013, 01:31:33 AM
Edited and voted, Pfil-chan :)
Title: Re: Your favourite MetroidVania
Post by: Pfil on September 17, 2013, 01:29:17 PM
Thanks!  :)
What game did you vote?
Title: Re: Your favourite MetroidVania
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on September 18, 2013, 02:43:17 AM
He voted for SotN.
Title: Re: Your favourite MetroidVania
Post by: Pfil on September 18, 2013, 08:39:31 AM
Another vote for the champion, it seems  :)
Title: Re: Your favourite MetroidVania
Post by: The Silverlord on September 18, 2013, 01:38:36 PM
Aria of Sorrow all the way for me, Pfil!

I replay it often (mostly during holiday flights!) and I just adore it's mystical-like atmosphere: the washed out colours and palette, it's mysterious storyline and characters, areas with fewer enemies contributing a sense of desolation, the at times eerie and disjointed music that enhances the mood and level of immersion.  This is not the grandeur or richness of Symphony but my goodness it has a unique atmosphere, and one that deeply appeals to me.

I could gush over the Tactical Soul system.  It's ingenious from every angle: the way it was worked into the story with the castle monsters and their progenitor reborn; the brilliant, uncomplicated control and selection mechanisms in the game menu; the sheer number and scope of available souls--creating not only a novel means of advancement through the castle, brilliantly tied into events and Soma's progress, but offering weapon and status enhancements too; random drops set with careful deliberation to encourage maximum replayability.

It rarely frustrates, it oozes class, and breeds reward and satisfaction.

There is filler of course, but IGA and his team created something magical.  What helped it considerably I feel, and where I think it's successor failed, was the aforementioned atmosphere and the game's outstanding castle design.  I find it flows with brilliance.  Not merely the simple 'stacked'/copy-pasted rooms of Dawn or Portait, as level-design began to stagnate and fall away.  Ecclesia's final castle does Castlevania level design at its absolute worst, years after this gem.

If I were to be critical of Aria though, perhaps it feels on-rails at times.
Title: Re: Your favourite MetroidVania
Post by: Belmontoya on September 18, 2013, 02:58:42 PM
Just look at all of those blank "of" blank titles.

Title: Re: Your favourite MetroidVania
Post by: Pfil on September 19, 2013, 07:37:50 AM
Aria of Sorrow all the way for me, Pfil!

I replay it often (mostly during holiday flights!) and I just adore it's mystical-like atmosphere: the washed out colours and palette, it's mysterious storyline and characters, areas with fewer enemies contributing a sense of desolation, the at times eerie and disjointed music that enhances the mood and level of immersion.  This is not the grandeur or richness of Symphony but my goodness it has a unique atmosphere, and one that deeply appeals to me.

I could gush over the Tactical Soul system.  It's ingenious from every angle: the way it was worked into the story with the castle monsters and their progenitor reborn; the brilliant, uncomplicated control and selection mechanisms in the game menu; the sheer number and scope of available souls--creating not only a novel means of advancement through the castle, brilliantly tied into events and Soma's progress, but offering weapon and status enhancements too; random drops set with careful deliberation to encourage maximum replayability.

It rarely frustrates, it oozes class, and breeds reward and satisfaction.

There is filler of course, but IGA and his team created something magical.  What helped it considerably I feel, and where I think it's successor failed, was the aforementioned atmosphere and the game's outstanding castle design.  I find it flows with brilliance.  Not merely the simple 'stacked'/copy-pasted rooms of Dawn or Portait, as level-design began to stagnate and fall away.  Ecclesia's final castle does Castlevania level design at its absolute worst, years after this gem.

If I were to be critical of Aria though, perhaps it feels on-rails at times.
You get from AoS the same as myself!  :)
Title: Re: Your favourite MetroidVania
Post by: Pfil on September 19, 2013, 07:39:44 AM
Just look at all of those blank "of" blank titles.
Both PS2 titles, DoS and MoF... I feel sorry for them, not even 1 vote :(
Title: Re: Your favourite MetroidVania
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on September 20, 2013, 01:32:55 AM
Did you expect people to vote for MoF?  :P
Wahahahahahahahaha!
Title: Re: Your favourite MetroidVania
Post by: Beaumont_Belmont on September 20, 2013, 02:02:48 AM
I don't think MoF's developers would vote for MoF.
Title: Re: Your favourite MetroidVania
Post by: Pfil on September 20, 2013, 11:58:13 AM
Did you expect people to vote for MoF?  :P
Wahahahahahahahaha!
Hahaha! I thought some crazy fan would vote for it. Not me, certainly. It's my 3rd less favourite CV ever.

By the way, how did you make that Wacky Wacko effect?

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Title: Re: Your favourite MetroidVania
Post by: Lelygax on September 20, 2013, 12:23:04 PM
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Title: Re: Your favourite MetroidVania
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Title: Re: Your favourite MetroidVania
Post by: Lelygax on September 20, 2013, 12:47:31 PM
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Title: Re: Your favourite MetroidVania
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on September 22, 2013, 03:38:44 PM
Symphony of the night definitely.

With Aria of Sorrow and Circle of the moon being a very close second and third.
Title: Re: Your favourite MetroidVania
Post by: Pfil on September 23, 2013, 10:59:22 AM
I see CotM is the 2nd favourite. That reinforced what I already believed was the fans' 2nd fav.
Title: Re: Your favourite MetroidVania
Post by: knightmere on October 14, 2013, 12:39:24 PM
Topic title doesn't exactly match the poll choices, so I stuck with strictly Metroidvanias:

OoE>SoTN>AoS>DoS>Hod>CoTM>PoR