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Title: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
Post by: Highwind Dragoon on March 11, 2011, 12:49:50 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ap_on_re_as/as_japan_earthquake (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ap_on_re_as/as_japan_earthquake)

This is bad.... :( :( :(
Title: Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
Post by: Abnormal Freak on March 11, 2011, 01:26:25 AM
Way bad.

Pretty big earthquake that hit Hawaii about half an hour ago. Wondering if that will escalate.

Tsunami warnings from the shock in Japan reaching as far as Chile and California.
Title: Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
Post by: Dark Nemesis on March 11, 2011, 08:56:09 AM
Oh man........i just saw it on tv news.......this was terrible!!!! It made me think of the 2012 movie!!!
Title: Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
Post by: Mooning Freddy on March 11, 2011, 11:12:05 AM
My heart is with the people of Japan... Another earthquake, and so shortly after the one in New Zealand!  :-\
People are so helpless against nature's power, even the most advances countries in the world.
And they said it could even get worse, after some nuclear power plants took damage and the radioactive materials could leak.
Title: Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
Post by: Chernabogue on March 11, 2011, 11:14:07 AM
This is very bad news, I hope our Japanese CV forums comrads are okay!
Title: Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
Post by: X on March 11, 2011, 11:19:57 AM
An 8.9 earthquake is a real monster to be dealt with. I can't help but feel that this quake will be just the first on many in the near future.

-X
Title: Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
Post by: Slayer on March 11, 2011, 08:50:50 PM
Sadly, it could get worse.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/12/world/asia/12nuclear.html?_r=1&hp (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/12/world/asia/12nuclear.html?_r=1&hp)
Title: Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
Post by: Grim_Creeper on March 11, 2011, 10:10:01 PM
This is not the biggest earthquake / tsunami they've ever dealt with.

I do not see Death swooping down on them and wiping them out.

Though to my mind theres only one other instance I can think of that compares with it. I could be badly mistaken but If I'm not, around 1680 a huge tsunami hit and completely buried a town there. I mean it wiped it off the map outright. I know it was in the 1600s.

I do however see the danger of the nuclear plants. If they leak radiation for longer than a few days, with Japans population concentrations, it is likely to be a rather huge problem. (not that I'm down on nuclear power outright or anything, I'm not).

It is a ring of fire nation. Earthquakes will come and go, but I'm glad that this one wasn't on the island itself, that would have been devastating beyond what this one is. All we can do is keep our back straight, keep a stiff upper lip, and try doggedly to fix whatever problems arise.
Title: Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
Post by: thernz on March 12, 2011, 02:03:34 AM
I wonder how Koutei is. I hope he's safe.

It's kinda frightening though. The death toll keeps climbing at an insane rate. Just 24 hours ago, it was just 1 person confirmed dead but now estimates are going into 1,600. Even with all the protection measures against earthquakes, both it and the tsunami dealt a colossal amount of damage. Seems like no matter what, we're all at the mercy of nature.

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In Iwate Prefecture, the coastal city of Rikuzentakata was virtually destroyed by a tidal wave, with almost all the city submerged, the local police said. Tsunami reached as high as the third floor of the city hall, and only a few buildings remained in the urban area.

The coastal area of Miyako City and almost all of the town of Yamada, both in Iwate, were also submerged.
http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/03/77071.html (http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/03/77071.html)

There was also apparently a leakage AND explosion at the Fukishima nuclear plant that Slayer mentioned. Things keep getting worse.
Title: Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
Post by: Successor The Cruel on March 12, 2011, 03:37:50 AM
It's wreaked a bit of havoc with our brothers in Northern California, but from what I can tell, we southern Californians are a-okay!  It worries me a bit, though, because our "big one" that they talk about happening is supposed to be something like that, I suppose.  I can only recall being alive during one huge earthquake, which was the Northridge Earthquake:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_Northridge_earthquake (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_Northridge_earthquake)

That was apparently only a 6.7, and from what I can recall, it was pretty darn scary.
Title: Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
Post by: Koutei on March 12, 2011, 06:04:03 AM
I am alive though the crisis of the maximum life was experienced.
Damage is a little because I am in the Tokyocity.
However, I worry how about Japan becomes it.
Title: Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
Post by: danceofgold on March 12, 2011, 06:41:26 AM
Chilling to hear about the death toll and the horrible and far-reaching consequences. But I must say I really admire the Japanese for their resilience and never-say-die spirit, being a country that is always at the mercy of earthquakes. I am sure Japan will rebuild herself faster and stronger.
Title: Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
Post by: Harrycombs on March 12, 2011, 04:49:50 PM
I hope the people of Japan can rebound from this. With all of the stories about political corruption as of late, their decades of economic stagnation, and now this, its hard to imagine how they can maintain hope for the future. I hope for the best for them.
Title: Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
Post by: Abnormal Freak on March 12, 2011, 08:24:11 PM
It's kind of disheartening when I see on the news today all this coverage of California about boats being washed ashore and wrecked by the waves. OK, so some were houseboats, and people are without homes for a time...but still, there's massive destruction in Japan, many people dead or missing, mass evacuations due to potential nuclear power plant meltdown, more (albeit milder) earthquakes and tsunami... Tons of shit happening, and people here are concerned about some fucking boats.

Jeeeeeeeeez...
Title: Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on March 13, 2011, 12:29:21 AM
The USA is totally egocentric, dude.  What did you expect?
The 24-hour news networks eat this stuff up, and it's never "Here's some big news".  It's almost always "Here's some big news... but check out how it affects US because we know that's what you really care about".  Or, at least that's the way it is implied.
Title: Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
Post by: kadosho on March 13, 2011, 12:25:42 PM
Been catching up with friends of mine residing in the area(s) affected. Doing okay, made it to a safe area.
News all around the net, even ANN is helping http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/ (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/)
Title: Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
Post by: Mooning Freddy on March 13, 2011, 01:36:39 PM
It's almost always "Here's some big news... but check out how it affects US because we know that's what you really care about".  Or, at least that's the way it is implied.

I really hope that's not how the news networks in America work... While America IS quite an egocentric country, still...
My country is a very egocentric country, no argument about that. Yet even in my country the day the tsunamis started Israeli Channel 2 (the most popular news network) reported exclusively about Japan. And it's not like Israel even has strong connection with Japan, hell, I doubt think we even have an embassy there.

And you know what else? There has been a terrorist attack here two days ago. A terrorist found his way into an Israeli settlement and murdered an entire family. 5 people, including small children. That's not an event which happens here every day.
Nevertheless, I think Japan received just as much coverage, plus Channel 2 sent their top reporter there.  

Maybe that's a bad thing after all. People in my country are so used to seeing killings that it's not as shocking anymore. A national disaster in the always strong and stable Japan seems so much more surprising than continued violence between Arabs and Jews.
I wish nature was the only thing humanity would have had to deal with.  
Title: Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
Post by: uzo on March 13, 2011, 01:54:21 PM
I'll just leave this here.

http://www.dimondsoft.com/hotlink/1299918227713.jpg (http://www.dimondsoft.com/hotlink/1299918227713.jpg)
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dimondsoft.com%2Fhotlink%2F1299918227713.jpg&hash=03ba240cf41f6982b8c0bca270b96808)
Title: Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
Post by: Abnormal Freak on March 13, 2011, 02:03:14 PM
Holy shit, ha ha. I could only get through a few of those before feeling like vomiting, but for some reason I find it kind of funny—sort of "hee hee" laughing at their stupidity and heartlessness kind of thing. The Pearl Harbor bombing was so damn long ago; two or more generations of adults since then. Sheesh. What now—a disaster in Germany, with posts of, "FUCK THOSE NAZI DOUCHEBAGS!"?

:|
Title: Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
Post by: Grim_Creeper on March 13, 2011, 06:25:11 PM
People are tired of america's involvement being insisted upon in things that THEY see as a waste of money. You'll note that THEY is all caps. Don't get to flaming me.

While I agree that a home state takes priority, I do believe we should be doing something about the reactors, since they are a danger to that whole area and possibly us too. And to an extent they ARE correct. Federally collected tax money WILL be spent on getting the situation under control.
Title: Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
Post by: X on March 13, 2011, 07:24:12 PM
That a very sick read there uzo. The only reason why they'd think that in the first place is because they were brought up believing it.

"Remember Pearl harbor" nuff said  :P

I remember Pearl harbor but do I act like them? Hell no! I love Japan and I think they have a very vibrant and wonderful culture. I would love to visit that country someday.

-X
Title: Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
Post by: X on March 14, 2011, 06:05:15 PM
Sorry for the double post, but today I saw on the news that they've already started the emergency venting on their nuclear reactors. At first I thought that one of the reactors had blown as you see this mushroom-type cloud erupt out of the structure, but fortunately that's not the case. Whew!

-X
Title: Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
Post by: Mooning Freddy on March 15, 2011, 01:33:26 AM
I'm terribly sorry in advance...

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi38.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe140%2FMichael_Davidov%2FNeuclearHolocaustEnglish1.png&hash=8730cc4332a2682c434ef7ffd88edd16)

(click to show/hide)

(Stolen and translated from "Ho-Lo", a Hebrew black humor comics site.) 
Title: Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
Post by: Bloodreign on March 15, 2011, 02:01:15 AM
Uzo, that picture rather sickens me, none of those fucks were even around for Pearl Harbor, I'd say the two A Bombs we dropped on them was punishment enough.

I don't even know why you posted it to begin with dude, it's tasteless.
Title: Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
Post by: Kale on March 15, 2011, 08:22:17 AM
Uzo, that picture rather sickens me, none of those fucks were even around for Pearl Harbor, I'd say the two A Bombs we dropped on them was punishment enough.

I don't even know why you posted it to begin with dude, it's tasteless.

No kidding, one guy also got his history completely wrong. Japan didn't nuke pearl harbor, US nuked hiroshima.
Title: Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
Post by: X on March 15, 2011, 11:16:22 AM
The nuking of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was never necessary to begin with. The only reasons why the Americans did it was A: A science experiment. To see the effects of such a weapon on human life and major metropolitan areas. To this day those scientists regret ever having participated in such a bastard experiment. And B: America wanted the whole world to know just what kind of new weapon they had up their sleeve. To deter others countries from going against their so-called great nation. Japan didn't need to be nuked as defeat was already inevitable, but america wanted to make a statement and they did so in the worst way. What uzo showed us is exactly what is wrong with the US. It's a sick read but it rings true about the current conditions within that country. The youths are taught in ignorance and can't even really think for themselves. They're forced by the older generation to remember things like pearl harbor, and in such a negative light that they just become a part of the problem rather then the solution. Personally I can't wait for their current government to collapse...which might be around nine years from now if they keep going the way their going.

-X

 
Title: Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
Post by: Grim_Creeper on March 15, 2011, 12:53:16 PM
Sure. Bash America outright.

I wasn't there and I don't presume to know for certain why they did what they did. But I think the idea that they did it out of blatantly base reasons is false. More likely that they needed to do it because they knew,

A - That every japanese person there would be fighting them, and that the war would drag on for years and years longer.

And

B - That the soviets were poised to go to a WORLD ENDING war footing with the US and needed a reason to not do so.

This information was given to me by a veteran who was actually THERE. Who was alive, and IN the military, AND in the South pacific, at the time. If he didn't know what he was talking about, no one does.
Title: Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
Post by: Successor The Cruel on March 15, 2011, 01:13:18 PM
I think the fact of the matter is that you rarely get to the top of the world by being Mr. Nice Guy all the time.  I hold that if another country was in America's shoes, they would behave similarly - maybe some a little better, and many others terribly worse.  Just look through history.  Ever since, hell, I dunno', Egypt, world powers have done what they can to gain power and hold onto it.  I don't really consider myself all that much of a patriot, but what bothers me sometimes is when Europeans get a holier than thou attitude and it wasn't that long ago that they had huge empires and oppressed/took advantage of practically everyone in the southern hemisphere, not to mention they were pretty much behind the worst wars the world has ever seen.  I'm not accusing anyone in this thread, just kind of thinking out loud.

Also, I really care about what happens in my home state, where I and the people I really care about live.  When our beaches are closed and we have warnings that a tsunami (!?!?!?) could hit us, and that our boats are sinking, then I don't mind seeing that on the news... if I really watched the news, that is : p
Not that I'm saying our situation is comparable at all with Japan's, but still.
Title: Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
Post by: darkjak951 on March 16, 2011, 05:26:17 AM
The situation in japan is pretty grave but what pisses me off is that a lot of people i know including are more concerned about anime/manga/giant gundam statue collapsing. I find that to be extremely heartless, I bet they wouldn't react the same way if it happened to us >:(
Title: Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
Post by: Kale on March 16, 2011, 11:54:49 AM
Well, duh. It's something far away that isn't a direct impact to their lives. I would think they thought the same about 9/11, if not, they're hypocrits (unless someone they know died in that and not this). By the way, I can't say I got more sympathy than them... Yep, I'm pretty heartless... I don't wish them ill, and I do hope they get together better, but I'm not one to go out of my way to help either.

Also, most people are always, omg it's so sad..... but they don't do anything, so they aren't much better either.
Title: Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
Post by: CastleToastM on March 16, 2011, 02:41:22 PM
It's kind of disheartening when I see on the news today all this coverage of California about boats being washed ashore and wrecked by the waves. OK, so some were houseboats, and people are without homes for a time...but still, there's massive destruction in Japan, many people dead or missing, mass evacuations due to potential nuclear power plant meltdown, more (albeit milder) earthquakes and tsunami... Tons of shit happening, and people here are concerned about some fucking boats.

Jeeeeeeeeez...

What irks me about this is that in California, all that happen was a few boats got tossed around a bit.

However, here in Hawaii, our whole west coast of Kailua Kona got smashed. I don't mean just smashed, but totally destroyed by the tsunami. All the straw shacks in Waikaloa village got wiped out. They don't even exist anymore.

When I look at the news, they barely mention Hawaii. Hell, I don't even know what crap happened on the other islands. Not even the local news is telling us anything.

I'm on the Big Island, so it's relatively safe with it's tall mountains and all, but the other islands are tiny in comparison. I have no idea how well they can hold up to tsunamis.

But when you think about it, Americans SHOULDN'T know about the vast amounts of damage on Hawaii, because it'll hurt the tourism, which is around 40% or so of our state income. If they see the damage, they might think it's normal for Hawaii to get totally destroyed, or some BS like that.

All they want to know is that their vacation spot is safe. I wonder if they care that actual people live on these rocks in the middle of the Pacific.

But even so, the damage done to this island is nothing compared to Japan islands. They have a death toll in the thousands, and we have...

...um, uh,

...

huh.

I have no idea if any people have died at all from the tsunami. Everything's all hushed up. I really have no idea what our numbers are.
Title: Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
Post by: Harrycombs on March 16, 2011, 02:46:12 PM
The nuking of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was never necessary to begin with. The only reasons why the Americans did it was A: A science experiment. To see the effects of such a weapon on human life and major metropolitan areas. To this day those scientists regret ever having participated in such a bastard experiment. And B: America wanted the whole world to know just what kind of new weapon they had up their sleeve. To deter others countries from going against their so-called great nation. Japan didn't need to be nuked as defeat was already inevitable, but america wanted to make a statement and they did so in the worst way. What uzo showed us is exactly what is wrong with the US. It's a sick read but it rings true about the current conditions within that country. The youths are taught in ignorance and can't even really think for themselves. They're forced by the older generation to remember things like pearl harbor, and in such a negative light that they just become a part of the problem rather then the solution. Personally I can't wait for their current government to collapse...which might be around nine years from now if they keep going the way their going.

-X

 

Remember that the Soviet Union was getting ready to invade Hokkaido too. If they didn't surrender immediately to the US, then there might have been a North vs South Japan situation. Not that this justifies the use of the atomic bomb, but the US fear of Soviet involvement in Japan was understandable.
Title: Re: Major tsunami damage in N Japan after 8.9 quake
Post by: CastleToastM on March 16, 2011, 03:22:13 PM
The red scare sure did rule the lives of many Americans.