Topic: Castlevania: Lords of Shadow - Mirror of Fate 3DS (Discussion Thread)

[Sindra]

I don't think he lied too much, I think it's just iGA fans being butthurt that we aren't getting over the top anime plots anymore lol

Or, could it be general fans of the series since far, far before IGA that just can't stand someone not doing justice to the series as a whole, and not any particular era of the games. IGA did it too in areas.

And I'd like someone to describe to me, exactly, what an "Over-the-Top Anime Plotline" is. That seems to be a pretty damn big generalization.

[CastleDan]

I didn't see much of Super Castlevania IV in Lords of Shadow besides the whip swinging and gloomy/dreary environments. He boasted that IV was his bible for LoS's development.

a lot of the locations in that game were in this game just in 3d and re-imagined. It's far closer to IV than anything IGA has been producing. My problem is less with people having a problem with LOS and more with people giving IGA a pass for his less than stellar, lazy...lazy...games with horrible level design and recycling ..of everything.

[uzo]

Cox, and others at MS in charge of PR and marketing, deliberately deceived the old fan base with misinformation ranging from inferring tings that were not technically true, tricking the old fans with imagery and sound to lead them intentionally to false conclusion, and at the worst outright lies.

Why? Because they realized if the fan base knew the truth of the project's true form they would have lost the support of the fans before tricking anyo9ne into buying it.

It has nothing to do with IGA. Most things don't anyway, but all the uninformed, misguided, popular-wanna-be kids seem to latch on to that to sound cool.

[CastleDan]

Or, could it be general fans of the series since far, far before IGA that just can't stand someone not doing justice to the series as a whole, and not any particular era of the games. IGA did it too in areas.

And I'd like someone to describe to me, exactly, what an "Over-the-Top Anime Plotline" is. That seems to be a pretty damn big generalization.

Castlevania Dawn of Sorrow - Intro - Gameplay - the dialog reads like some kind of poorly written anime.

[Kingshango]

At the very least, we know the truth about everything regarding Lords of Shadow now so Cox and Mercurysteam can't possibly lie anymore right?

Right?

[Dremn]

Castlevania Dawn of Sorrow - Intro - Gameplay - the dialog reads like some kind of poorly written anime.

That art style is ridiculously generic. Why didn't they use Kojima's art?

[Maedhros]

better than it was? It was a length adventure, it was pretty robust, had great graphics, nice voice acting, and was critically accepted compared to the other 3d castlevanias that came out.

I don't think he lied too much, I think it's just iGA fans being butthurt that we aren't getting over the top anime plots anymore lol

Seriously, STFU.
"This game will be heavily inspired by Castlevania IV".
"No QTEs guys, I hate them".

Just two examples.

[Sindra]

the dialog reads like some kind of poorly written anime.

Yes, and Zobek's grandiose dialog and descriptions of Gabriel's "pain and torment and overwhelming rage" (that rarely got shown, FYI) weren't over-the-top at all.

[Foffy]

Again, it gets a bad rep for silly reasons imo.. It's the first Castlevania in 3d that actually has damn good level design. No copy and paste cop outs, and it went back to the more gritty mythical beefy nature of the originals and less of the romantic pretty boy vibe of the newer ones.  IMO of course...

Foffy-Eh, it was far more interestin' than a crimson stone plotline.......imo.....

I donno, dude. I thought someone got one of their children to get the twist that Belmont = Dracula. It's so childish of a plot idea, and seems like something fitting for fan fiction. But perhaps it's because two of the writers do comic books, and maybe awful plots is a norm there.

[CastleDan]

The art style and the dialog in the game was atrocious and anime like...

My point is people are fine with IGA's bastardization of the series ( minus Aria which i did like and was well done) but people go ape shiznit over lords of shadow which at the very least keeps the tone very similar to the old games. Has locations that are outside the castle like the old games, has a main protagonist with a whip like the old games, has a damsel in distress type story like the old games.

Yet people go crazy saying how they were misled! it's really NOT as different as everyone flips out at it.... Lets look at IGA's storylines with cars in the backgrounds, anime art style, horrible dialog, copy and paste backgrounds....stuff that people are seemingly much more okay with...Why?...

Get the guy that created symphony of the night back in control of things he had the perfect vision, IGA taking over symphony of the night hardly counts in my eyes.

[CastleDan]

I donno, dude. I thought someone got one of their children to get the twist that Belmont = Dracula. It's so childish of a plot idea, and seems like something fitting for fan fiction. But perhaps it's because two of the writers do comic books, and maybe awful plots is a norm there.

Again it's far more interestin' at the very least than a crimson..stone....which sounds much more comic booky to me.

and yeah, it does sound fan fiction'ish ...but it's a take that I could have seen happening. It's something that makes the belmont clan a bit more interesting. Plus it's always great to see a persons fall from grace in a game and they did it very well....

[Dremn]

I donno, dude. I thought someone got one of their children to get the twist that Belmont = Dracula. It's so childish of a plot idea, and seems like something fitting for fan fiction. But perhaps it's because two of the writers do comic books, and maybe awful plots is a norm there.

Well, Gabriel wasn't really a "Belmont," he gave himself that name. We don't know what his real name is, but we know he's supposedly a bastard child from the Cronqvist family.

I feel like any "Belmonts" won't be Belmonts by birth right, but it will be used as a surname for anyone who reaches a certain standard in the Order.

[uzo]

From the top of my head, I remember Crayon Shin-chan (Japan Only), Cave Story 3D(has a 2D pixel mode in, but whatever). Adventure Time 3DS will be pixel art by Wayforward too. I'm sure there's more, I can't remember everyone.

I see 3D model effects in Crayon Shin-chan screen shots, despite being a severely cheap licensed title. Adventure Time was announced just recently with NO screen shots to be found, and is a DS multiplatform title as well. I hardly think that counts. Cave Story is a 3d remake with a retro mode tacked on. You are really grasping for straws here.

[crisis]

CastleDan, you're coming off as an obnoxious little kid "nyah nyah cox games are better than your dumb iga games nyah nyah"

Seriously. It's fucking annoying.

[DragonSlayr81]

Yes, and Zobek's grandiose dialog and descriptions of Gabriel's "pain and torment and overwhelming rage" (that rarely got shown, FYI) weren't over-the-top at all.

It really is two different sides of the same coin. One side's East, the other, West. The coin is called EXAGGERATION!