Topic: Why does the majority seem to dislike Harmony of Dissonance?

[BLOOD MONKEY]

And I disagree with what you said and see it as nothing more than excuses, that just my way of looking at your actions here of blasting HOD for being similar to SOTN but praising AOS.

Its not so much as me not reading your posts or being dishonest, its me seeing you for what I honestly feel your doing here, which is keeping a double standard firm in place.

Did you even fucking see what VTC posted? If you did, I suggest you end the argument before a mod(s) has to get involved.

[Lelygax]

Nope. Because Juste was the first to be a whip user with a decent equip system, even though it was directly lifted from SotN.

Don't play me silly, Lelygax. If I wanted to intentionally overlook Simon and Nathan, I'd simply not mention them at all. But their equip system is terrible, and they are whip users, thus this is a point in favor of Juste, not against..


That's why I excluded Simon and Nathan from the mention, since they were bad equipment systems for whip users. For Simon because it was an archaic system, and for Nathan because it is limited when the hardware allows for a better thing (without mentioning the quite small and uninventive inventory of the game).

I agree, partially.

And about the castle, well... Story doesn't excuse bad gimmicks, and IGA already stated that he works gimmicks first, and story last. The story in this game will never justify why the second castle is a copypasta from the first beyond "Fake Longevity".

Since IGA got this out of the way, both castles are on the same "storyless" level (meaning that they both had no story-intent, Symphony's because it hadn't for whatever reason, and HoD's because IGA said so). Going by this, I think it's pretty safe to say that HoD's is the poor-man-that-must-deliver-a-long-game's copy from SotN's idea, but shittier.

We receive the end product, so what matter is what we got. Sure, it is a copy of Castle A, but this time they gave a purpose and explanation to it. They could have done this in SotN too, but they simply ignored it as if it was completely normal to the series (well, CV is know for plotholes too xD).

I honestly think you're not being impartial. Not only you, but also DarkPrinceAlucard.

So I dont know how to change your view, since I was one of the first to say what people dislike in this game and showing a lot of flaws. Im being impartial in a way that I will show flaws instead of hide it, but I will say about the good things too

[DarkPrinceAlucard]

Goddammit, did you just skip over my post? TAKE IT TO THE PMS OR JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP. Jeez.

I was actually in the middle of posting a reply to your post, but you coming and and telling me to shut the fuck up is only going to make me tell you to SHUT THE FUCK UP.

One thing you will learn about me is that I don't respond kindly to be told to shut the fuck up by ANYONE.

Show me the proper respect and I will do you the same.

Now on to your post I was in the middle of replying to.

I already have enough of a headache dealing with stuff in my life, now I have to watch you guys have a petty squabble? Fucking. Quit. It.

Just want to point out that you can always ignore and report us man, you don't have to deal with it if you are honestly having this much of a bad day.

But I simply find it hard to agree to disagree when someone keeps on challenging my points and views on things, I can't help but defend those views.

[DarkPrinceAlucard]

Did you even fucking see what VTC posted? If you did, I suggest you end the argument before a mod(s) has to get involved.

Read my above post, I was already in the middle of posting when he made that reply.

Don't get snappy with me.

[theplottwist]

And I disagree with what you said and see it as nothing more than excuses, that just my way of looking at your actions here of blasting HOD for being similar to SOTN but praising AOS.

Its not so much as me not reading your posts or being dishonest, its me seeing you for what I honestly feel your doing here, which is keeping a double standard firm in place.

Well then, according to your logic, no one can ever evidence that HoD is just like SotN, down to aesthetics, because the main argument used is, according to you, "an excuse".

Arguing it's an "excuse" doesn't make it an excuse, you have to demonstrate how it's an excuse. You haven't. You call it an excuse, and expect your opponent to swallow it. This is called "dishonesty", just pointing it out.

Goddammit, did you just skip over my post? TAKE IT TO THE PMS OR JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP. Jeez.

Same reason as DarkPrinceAlucard above. This is also my last reply on the matter.

[Lelygax]

Hey guys, please calm down. We are here to talk about the game, not to throw insults, why we couldnt continue like minutes ago and debate respectuflly?

(inb4, please nothing about pointing fingers or mods will be irritated for sure, its obvious lol)

We dont need to stop if we continue to do it right.

[DarkPrinceAlucard]

*sigh* i'm done here, I've grown tired of this,

Now we have people coming in all raging and butthurt trying to attack us.

The thing is I was in the middle of making a reply when that initial post from Vlad was posted so I did not see it, and yet he decided to be a douche and rage out.

And ZeroSaberGreen did not help one bit with his snappy remarks.

I'm tired it this, peace.

[VladCT]

I'll have to apologize for snapping there. It's just that instead of a prim & proper argument, you guys were calling each other names and shit. Now, if it were a civil argument I'd let it slide, but you guys had to start getting immature and paint yourselves a bull's-eye for my pent up frustrations.

[DarkPrinceAlucard]

I'll have to apologize for snapping there. It's just that instead of a prim & proper argument, you guys were calling each other names and shit. Now, if it were a civil argument I'd let it slide, but you guys had to start getting immature and paint yourselves a bull's-eye for my pent up frustrations.

Just want to explain myself and then I'm done, but it only got that way once he said the "I can't teach you to read" part.

I saw that as a insult and threw one back.

After that however it got back to a debate on differing views that while somewhat heated was free of name calling.

[crisis]

i love reading a good debate, but u guys are catching feelings over nothing

its all good bros, why so serious? always remember, nobody can get u mad/annoyed/frustrated without your consent

[Lelygax]

Well, I think that atleast now "limonpower" have a lot of answers.

[Abnormal Freak]

Wow, its weird to see all these people hating on HOD now

Criticizing a game for its faults != hating on it.

[DarkPrinceAlucard]

Criticizing a game for its faults != hating on it.

Faults by who's definition though?

Some of these so called "faults" are purely subjective and in some cases are not even considered faults by other fans such as the main one me and theplottwist have been debating about such as one of its faults of being to similar to CVSOTN.

Lol everytime I try to leave a topic alone someone just has to pull me back in, well bring it on man.

[VladCT]

Just so you know, I'm more or less primed to report this thread to Jorge in case it goes badly again.

[theANdROId]

I'm too lazy to catch up and read all 4 pages of posts, but the reason I didn't like it at first is because I came straight from playing CotM to playing HoDissonance.  The initial "look"of CotM seemed darker(which felt like a CV game) and the music sounded better in CotM, and HoD felt like a step back.  I can literally remember saying something like, "I know this could be better!  Why is it so bright?  Why is the music awful?  It sounds like it's coming from busted speakers!  If CotM could look and sound like it did, why did they change that to something like this that looks and sounds worse?"

I played the game and beat it, since I'd already owned it by that point, and kept it to add to my collection.  Didn't touch it for years, but replayed others.  Finally, I came back to it, and I like it much more now.  There is still a good bit of darkness in the game, even if the colors are rainbow-bright ;-P ...and the music is kinda good too -- there is an interesting harmony in the dissonance of the sounds.  I still think they could have made it look and sound a little nicer, but I also have come to find some enjoyment in what's there.