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Re: Lords of shadow 2 is on it's way
« Reply #180 on: May 17, 2012, 02:43:19 PM »
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I suppose there are people out there who are like that (for whatever reason) but the members here don't act like that at all. We have members who like all the different incarnations of the series that exist, the classic games, the 3d games, etc which proves they can accept change at least to some degree. So I see no reason to pull the "you just don't accept change" card here of all places.   

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Re: Lords of shadow 2 is on it's way
« Reply #181 on: May 17, 2012, 02:51:16 PM »
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So I see no reason to pull the "you just don't accept change" card here of all places.   

I agree.

That argument in itself is weak at best.

I myself was easily able to accept change in the form of symphony which I have seen NUMEROUS LOS fans try to draw comparisons to regarding their similar situations (such as changing the series as we know it).

I'm a HUGE fan of the classics and SCIV was one of my most fav vanias of all time.

But once symphony came along I found myself easily able to get into it since I actually LIKED the changes it brought about.

That is the difference with LOS really, I just did not like the changes IT brought about.

Nothing wrong with that really, everyone has opinions and no ones opinion should be shot down because it is different than yours.


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Re: Lords of shadow 2 is on it's way
« Reply #182 on: May 17, 2012, 02:53:35 PM »
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I suppose there are people out there who are like that (for whatever reason) but the members here don't act like that at all. We have members who like all the different incarnations of the series that exist, the classic games, the 3d games, etc which proves they can accept change at least to some degree. So I see no reason to pull the "you just don't accept change" card here of all places.   

True. I can understand it more now. Hell in the end I just like a good game and this series provides it in three different ways  even if I prefer the classic more, but when I am tried of that I have two more styles to play with.
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Re: Lords of shadow 2 is on it's way
« Reply #183 on: May 17, 2012, 03:21:12 PM »
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i wonder(hope?) LoS2 will have RPG elements o.o;

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Re: Lords of shadow 2 is on it's way
« Reply #184 on: May 17, 2012, 06:26:45 PM »
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Re: Lords of shadow 2 is on it's way
« Reply #185 on: May 17, 2012, 07:07:30 PM »
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Well, you learn something new everyday.
Then its strange that POR ended up so...mediocre.
Say something bad about SOTN and you will be ripped apart by its fans.
Say something bad about LOS...its OK, no people should be offended because something that they like is insulted.
Double standarts anyone?
Which is basically means that they don't like how different it is from previous games. 
Just worded in a roundabout fashion. ;)

I am all for acceptance of different opinions and all that jazz. And that is exactly why I am being slightly pissed of, when some people continously say bad things about LOS, when its not that neccesary or even relevant. Its like as if I bashed HOD in each my post, no matter what we were talking about. Maybe I should do that?

 Both are good,but I like Los more than Sotn(I want to get the saturn version soon) so is that really so bad? Should I get burned to the stake for it? Nah but hey people will be people. Second do not go down to that level what is the point in doing that.
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Re: Lords of shadow 2 is on it's way
« Reply #186 on: May 17, 2012, 07:21:54 PM »
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I hope my saying that I think a new IGA-Vania would be boring doesn't make people think I don't like the games IGA has done. My comment a few pages back seems to have redirected the conversation. I mentioned OoE because it is a neat mix up of the tried and true formula that they'd been using for years to make new Castlevanias. I thoroughly enjoyed all the metroidvanias, even PoR, which I consider my least-favorite of those. I just like to see more creativity in my games. That's what impressed me. That's why AoS blew my mind when I first played it, and SotN was so cool. I just think that the formula was kind of running out of steam. I don't know how much more could have been done with it. I'm not saying one developer is better than another at all.

Anyway, I'll shut up before I make another wall-o-text. I just want to make things clear before too many people get the wrong idea.
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Re: Lords of shadow 2 is on it's way
« Reply #187 on: May 17, 2012, 07:26:05 PM »
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I hope my saying that I think a new IGA-Vania would be boring doesn't make people think I don't like the games IGA has done. My comment a few pages back seems to have redirected the conversation. I mentioned OoE because it is a neat mix up of the tried and true formula that they'd been using for years to make new Castlevanias. I thoroughly enjoyed all the metroidvanias, even PoR, which I consider my least-favorite of those. I just like to see more creativity in my games. That's what impressed me. That's why AoS blew my mind when I first played it, and SotN was so cool. I just think that the formula was kind of running out of steam. I don't know how much more could have been done with it. I'm not saying one developer is better than another at all.

Anyway, I'll shut up before I make another wall-o-text. I just want to make things clear before too many people get the wrong idea.

Oh come on make an other wall of text what is the worst that can happen  ;) , and yes too much of one thing can get tiresome.

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Re: Lords of shadow 2 is on it's way
« Reply #188 on: May 17, 2012, 07:38:53 PM »
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i wonder(hope?) LoS2 will have RPG elements o.o;
good question.

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Re: Lords of shadow 2 is on it's way
« Reply #189 on: May 17, 2012, 08:15:29 PM »
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Man, just rewatching this again.

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I'm going to trust nothing that Konami puts out next time for marketing the sequel.
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Re: Lords of shadow 2 is on it's way
« Reply #190 on: May 17, 2012, 08:48:53 PM »
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i wonder(hope?) LoS2 will have RPG elements o.o;

Well, LoS had the buying combo moves, so maybe. I think the LoS world would lend itself wonderfully to a non-linear game at least, especially if it had day and night cycles or... pretty much any given elements from Simon's Quest.

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« Reply #191 on: May 18, 2012, 12:36:27 AM »
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Re: Lords of shadow 2 is on it's way
« Reply #192 on: May 18, 2012, 01:08:16 AM »
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Which is basically means that they don't like how different it is from previous games. 
Just worded in a roundabout fashion. ;)

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The argument that was made was that fans don't like change whatever it might be (which puts them in a bad light) while I made a point saying they only don't like this perticular change. This applies to most members here who have already proven they are adaptable to change.         

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Re: Lords of shadow 2 is on it's way
« Reply #193 on: May 18, 2012, 01:26:29 AM »
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Its like as if I bashed HOD in each my post, no matter what we were talking about. Maybe I should do that?

Then you would have two themes to follow in your posts. Sounds like a lot of work if you ask me.


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Re: Lords of shadow 2 is on it's way
« Reply #194 on: May 18, 2012, 11:40:40 AM »
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Then you would have two themes to follow in your posts. Sounds like a lot of work if you ask me.
There is not much trouble in adding into my every post "HOD sucks!!".
I perfectly capable of multitasking. Talks with rabid fanboys has taught me to it.  ;)

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The argument that was made was that fans don't like change whatever it might be (which puts them in a bad light) while I made a point saying they only don't like this perticular change.
 
The same thing. Aside from LOS what exactly big changes happened to the series in the past?
We have essentially two big fractions and several odd curiostites, that doesn't amount to anything in the long run (CV64 / LOD, LOI, COD), since they've never become a template that series used in the long run. And, I believe, people knew that they will not become a new standard for the Castlevania, so that's why there is not so much fight about those games.
I think, big part of the LOS hatred comes from the people who genuinly afraid that LOS in the future will become a new Castlevania standard. At least in the old times, you could have been sure that there will be 2D outings, so fans "allowed" Konami to experiment with the series. As of now there is very little to such possibility, and that is why there is so much rage sometimes.

I partially could understand where these people come from, but sometimes said rage comes more as a butthurt (Konami made it different and haven't asked us!!), rather then something  weighted and clever.

P.S.
I totally love how some "intelligent creatures" use rating system.
Seems minuses is all they capable to say. Gives a nice insight of how smart they are.  :'(
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