Topic: Castlevania: Lords of Shadow - Mirror of Fate 3DS (Discussion Thread)

[flyingchai]

I'm going to quote Cox word for word on QTE: "Personally I don't like QTE's. I like to feel as if I'm in control." (Source: Eurogamer Article, May 2010)

To my knowledge, he only said he didn't like them and how qtes would not be the main staple of the battles. It's really out of fairness that I feel compelled to point out that Cox allegedly outright lied about something intentionally, and no one can ever site with a quote what the hell it is.

Back to MoF: one of the recurring themes in LOS is that in order to defeat darkness, one really has to become dark. It would really keep in line with the whole "epic tragedy" purpose of the saga if Trevor fell into darkness too

[Foffy]

To my knowledge, he only said he didn't like them and how qtes would not be the main staple of the battles. It's really out of fairness that I feel compelled to point out that Cox allegedly outright lied about something intentionally, and no one can ever site with a quote what the hell it is.

It's still a lie, as QTE's are a staple at many points in the game. Some even cause you to instantly die if you fail, or have to do an entire phase over.

Granted, he's implied that QTE's in Mirror of Fate help get rid of enemies quicker, but that better be it. I don't want more of this pathetic timing game to determine if I kill a boss or not. That has nothing to do with skill and was single-handhandedly the most atrocious thing about the game.

[gortaithe]

I'm going to quote Cox word for word on QTE: "Personally I don't like QTE's. I like to feel as if I'm in control." (Source: Eurogamer Article, May 2010)

To my knowledge, he only said he didn't like them and how qtes would not be the main staple of the battles. It's really out of fairness that I feel compelled to point out that Cox allegedly outright lied about something intentionally, and no one can ever site with a quote what the hell it is.

Back to MoF: one of the recurring themes in LOS is that in order to defeat darkness, one really has to become dark. It would really keep in line with the whole "epic tragedy" purpose of the saga if Trevor fell into darkness too

it is funny to see folks use cox's twitter as some sort of reference, set in stone. LOL

ah... and you are definately on to something with that. you don't tango with the devil and come out unscathed. and just like any movie i've ever seen where the devil was invovled, it never ended well... for anybody.

i have my theories... but... i have no cojones to put them out there LOL

[Kingshango]

Now I kinda feel bad for Simon now. His mother is dead, his grandfather is the king of the night and his father becomes some type of dark humanioid, who can't possibly return home looking like....the way he does as Nelocard.

The Belmont clan must have it rough in the future.

[flyingchai]

We clearly define "staples" in different manners. They existed, but not to a degree to ruin the realtime experience, nor did it dominate in the battles. I fail to see how that's s lie...and that's just not something we can ever agree upon. Thank you though for clarifying what people are siting for Cox's lie.

[Flame]

Now I kinda feel bad for Simon now. His mother is dead, his grandfather is the king of the night and his father becomes some type of dark humanioid, who can't possibly return home looking like....the way he does as Nelocard.

The Belmont clan mush have it rough in the future.

Julius in LoS2 or bust.

[gortaithe]

Now I kinda feel bad for Simon now. His mother is dead, his grandfather is the king of the night and his father becomes some type of dark humanioid, who can't possibly return home looking like....the way he does as Nelocard.

The Belmont clan mush have it rough in the future.

i feel terrible bad for marie now... i used to hate her guts for lying all the while making poor gabe believe he could be with her again.... but she HAD to lie. ugh... i feel sick to my stomach about it... about a video game! HAHA...

[Sindra]

i feel terrible bad for marie now... i used to hate her guts for lying all the while making poor gabe believe he could be with her again.... but she HAD to lie. ugh... i feel sick to my stomach about it... about a video game! HAHA...

Why did she HAVE to lie? Because a bunch of stuffy old guys from the Brotherhood of Light told her that her beloved and heroic husband would turn into a vampire lord and that she had to hide their only child to fight his father in the future?


Brotherhood Elder: "Sooo, yeah. You saw it. You're gonna die and he's going to turn into a vampire. *cough*After saving the world from complete darkness, freeing all the souls in limbo, and saving the world AGAIN from being destroyed by an eldritch abomination.*cough* Yup, you're going to have to accept that and hide your kid so he can kill his Evil!Dad when he's grown up."

Marie: "Oh, well, ok. I love my husband, but it's not like I can tell him everything about what I've seen and maybe help change our fates. I'll die, and then I STILL won't tell him we have a hidden son, so that he might have a shred of hope left in the world and won't allow himself to become a evil vampire."

Elder: "Good, as long as we both understand that. No telling him nothin', remember. Fates can't be changed. Ever. At all. Except for those times when they can be due to muddling destinies and crossing paths and whatnot. But that...peh...that's an oldschool way of thinking."


Honestly, unless they have a really convincing way of explaining how there really was no other way to do things, and they just end up hand-waving it away as "IT'S FATE!" and nothing more, it's a stupid, stupid premise.

[gortaithe]

Why did she HAVE to lie? Because a bunch of stuffy old guys from the Brotherhood of Light told her that her beloved and heroic husband would turn into a vampire lord and that she had to hide their only child to fight his father in the future?


Brotherhood Elder: "Sooo, yeah. You saw it. You're gonna die and he's going to turn into a vampire. *cough*After saving the world from complete darkness, freeing all the souls in limbo, and saving the world AGAIN from being destroyed by an eldritch abomination.*cough* Yup, you're going to have to accept that and hide your kid so he can kill his Evil!Dad when he's grown up."

Marie: "Oh, well, ok. I love my husband, but it's not like I can tell him everything about what I've seen and maybe help change our fates. I'll die, and then I STILL won't tell him we have a hidden son, so that he might have a shred of hope left in the world and won't allow himself to become a evil vampire."

Elder: "Good, as long as we both understand that. No telling him nothin', remember. Fates can't be changed. Ever. At all. Except for those times when they can be due to muddling destinies and crossing paths and whatnot. But that...peh...that's an oldschool way of thinking."


Honestly, unless they have a really convincing way of explaining how there really was no other way to do things, and they just end hand-waving it away as "IT'S FATE!" and nothing more, it's a stupid, stupid premise.

i don't know if you've read my DLC rant... but you should. LOL that was hilarious. i'm just waiting on the game to see how they're going to spin it. and if it isn't spun well... i'll go right back to hating marie. LOL

[Sindra]

The guy fought and beat the Devil, for the love of fuck.


THE DEVIL. SATAN. LUCIFER. THE ROOT OF ALL MORTAL EVIL.



Ya think that, maybe, they could give poor Gabe the benefit of the doubt here? Just a smidgen? Cut him just a bit of goddamn slack?

[gortaithe]

The guy fought and beat the Devil, for the love of fuck.


THE DEVIL. SATAN. LUCIFER. THE ROOT OF ALL MORTAL EVIL.



Ya think that, maybe, they could give poor Gabe the benefit of the doubt here? Just a smidgen? Cut him just a bit of goddamn slack?

exactly... agreed. LOL wholeheartedly agreeed >< what i've been screaming since the dlc's

[flyingchai]

Satan used to be The Angel of Light (Lucifer). What if....Satan masterminded the creation of The Brotherhood of Light, and everything has been transpiring according to his plan all along?
Zobek could've been the main pawn, and everyone else was just manipulated in the end by Satan in this false "brotherhood."
Maybe the "elaborate ruse" Satan was talking about in Zobek's head started from the creation of The Brotherhood onward.

[gortaithe]

Satan used to be The Angel of Light (Lucifer). What if....Satan masterminded the creation of The Brotherhood of Light, and everything has been transpiring according to his plan all along?
Zobek could've been the main pawn, and everyone else was just manipulated in the end by Satan in this false "brotherhood."
Maybe the "elaborate ruse" Satan was talking about in Zobek's head started from the creation of The Brotherhood onward.

see that's what i was thinking. or i had hoped... that this entire thing was a masterplan. be it run by satan or god. i had hoped that the story would take on a grand scheme and by grand, i mean... cosmic.

[e105beta]

Well he could have went with the "no comment" line he was using in that interview.

At least that way the fans would still be left guessing as to whether or not its him.

Instead he flat out said NO which obviously would cause fans who are more trusting of his words to believe that Trevor won't change into Alucard later on in the game.

If so, he is misleading the fans purposely.

Preferable or no, misleading comments generate more buzz than do no comments.

[DarkPrinceAlucard]

Preferable or no, misleading comments generate more buzz than do no comments.

matter of opinion there.

I think the "no comment" keeps the fans wondering "what if" rather than the flat out "no" comments.