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The Castlevania Dungeon Forums => Hardcore Gaming 101 => Topic started by: Inccubus on May 21, 2013, 11:01:35 AM
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What the fuck is that supposed to mean? Sounds like they're trying to rebrand the always on connection thing after the debacle a couple months ago.
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The reveal was a joke, did I see the enw generatiopn of gaming or the next generation of tv?
You can't even use the same game in another account IN your console without paying Microsoft.
http://kotaku.com/the-xbox-is-not-always-online-but-seems-to-block-used-509077987 (http://kotaku.com/the-xbox-is-not-always-online-but-seems-to-block-used-509077987)
This is bullshit. I for one, embrace PS4.
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What a shitty reveal. Lot's of non-game things on this box... lol
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The reveal was a joke, did I see the enw generatiopn of gaming or the next generation of tv?
You can't even use the same game in another account IN your console without paying Microsoft.
http://kotaku.com/the-xbox-is-not-always-online-but-seems-to-block-used-509077987 (http://kotaku.com/the-xbox-is-not-always-online-but-seems-to-block-used-509077987)
This is bullshit. I for one, embrace PS4.
I feel like this goes beyond the issue of used games. What if I have a cool Xbox game, and my buddy and I are getting together at his house. He can't just say, "Hey, why don't you bring that game over, and we'll play!" No, you have to bring your whole console. I already get irritated enough with saved data being attached to one profile. You have to move the whole profile to another console via the internet to load saved data from a memory card! To do that with games that you own too? That's just ridiculous.
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Imagine that your little brother can't play the game on his own account in the family console. Without paying MS, of course.
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Yeah. Fuck that shit. Can't say as I much care for PS4 either so far. I'm glad I got a Wii U. It has issues, but it's still fun and it doesn't have all those bullshit restrictions for games on physical media. Hmmm... it occurs to me that what they are trying to do is treat physical media like digital media. Fuck them. This is the kind of shit that makes me want learn how to jailbreak and softmod MS and SONY consoles, even though I don't have any, just so I can do it for other people.
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Wait that's really what they're calling it? That's worse than that Japanese-only thing Sony called the "PSX". Hell it's worse than "Wii", crude jokes aside at least Wii makes sense in the "Weeeeee I'm on a ride having fun!" level. Who names the third iteration of ANYTHING "One"?
The naming here seems to reflect the stupidity of all of the details coming out about the console. What's the point of buying physical media if you can't reuse it? If the disc is going to be a coaster after the first use I'll do the smart and environmentally friendly thing and stick with my PC and Steam/Gog thanks.
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Brodude marketing.
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HAHAHA, oh man some of the details here... Always online, you have to INSTALL your game onto the harddrive (which can later be played without the need for the disc, making the disc a waste of money) and if you want to swap the game between accounts, you must pay a fee.
Microsoft has screwed itself over with the DRM amagement here. particularly because this is a DIRECT jab at gamestop's used games industry. And I'll bet Gamestop doesn't take too kindly to that.
Can you imagine if gamestop decided not to sell the Nextbox?(calling it that from now on)
Also, have to be online all the time, and the RUMOR is that kinect will be always on all the time as well.
plus it just looks butt ugly.
it looks like my VCR and DVD player had a lovechild.
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What about the new news? Remember that the hwhole presentation was an advertising for TV, well....
THE TV SERVICE IS BEHIND PAYWALL (XBOX LIVE) US ONLY AND REQUIRES ADDITIONAL HARDWARE SOLD SEPARATELY
http://www.vg247.com/2013/05/21/xbox-one-live-tv-available-in-us-only-at-launch-requires-separate-device/ (http://www.vg247.com/2013/05/21/xbox-one-live-tv-available-in-us-only-at-launch-requires-separate-device/)
Please wake me up
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*Reading all of the news*
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Wow MS, you just made my purchase of the PS4 (and Wii U I guess) so much easier.
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Lol, Xbox... What are they thinking?
They're going to do so badly this generation.
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Hey, at least we can all that Microsoft/Xbox One for one thing, they are making the decision way more easier for us in the next coming gen. ;)
I'm sticking with my Wii U, and if they come up with some new interesting tidbits regarding PS4, I'll consider it. XB1, I'm done with ya!
Funny thing regarding the used/rented game "fees", they are full priced:
http://kotaku.com/you-will-be-able-to-trade-xbox-one-games-online-micros-509140825 (http://kotaku.com/you-will-be-able-to-trade-xbox-one-games-online-micros-509140825)
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Funny thing regarding the used/rented game "fees", they are full priced:
http://kotaku.com/you-will-be-able-to-trade-xbox-one-games-online-micros-509140825 (http://kotaku.com/you-will-be-able-to-trade-xbox-one-games-online-micros-509140825)
What
THE
FUCK!?
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Oh wow, they seriously done goofed hard. It'd take nothing short of a miracle for this crap to make a considerable profit.
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These console names are beginning to remind me a lot of soda gimmicks.
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Like I said, Microsoft made it easy. Unless Sony comes out and says, "Derpa derpa derp, daaaah, we are dooing it too!", and then the world explodes, civilization ends and life starts anew with a firm warning to the new people, "Hey, stop being dicks or the world will DIE!". ;D
It is funny too, considering this is a good example of anti-consumer practicing. Don't get me wrong, a lot of publishers are clamoring for this too. Y'know, maybe I'm old fashioned, but I would think a cornerstone of any good business is to respect your customers because, ultimately, they ARE the ones buying your products. Maybe it's just a concept that is floundering with every new generation. The "greed is good" mantra of the 80s is making a comeback, tenfold. But, there is some merit to valuing your customers. YOU make money BECAUSE of THEM. You're aim should be to please them and deliver, not only the best product possible, but a product so good your customer says, "Wow, I'm coming back for more!!". It's like the saying, "You can draw more flies with honey rather than vinegar". YOu give them something possitive and it's a Win-Win situation. The customer's happy because they ENJOY your product and service, and you, the company/business is happy because "Happy customers equals MOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY!". More happy customers means MORE MONEY! The more happy people you can draw in with great products and services, the MORE MONEY YOU CAN BE ROLLIN IN!
Seriously, it almost seems like the whole "Goose that Laid the Golden Egg" story. You have the goose, symbolic of the consumer, laying a golden egg and is well tended to by it's owner. It leads a happy life, and continues to give back for being treated so well. Then, you have others(publishers) who wish to find the secret of the golden eggs. Maybe, if they kill the goose, cut it up, there's some magic means, like an orb or relic within the goose that, if they come to take hold over it, THEY have the power to make riches for themselves(pinch-penny greed and wealth on their own terms). Well, what happened? They killed the goose, cut it up, and there was nothing inside. From that day on, no more golden eggs were laid. That's it, baby. :)
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this is too hilarious.
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Like I said, Microsoft made it easy. Unless Sony comes out and says, "Derpa derpa derp, daaaah, we are dooing it too!", and then the world explodes, civilization ends and life starts anew with a firm warning to the new people, "Hey, stop being dicks or the world will DIE!". ;D
IIRC, Sony has denied that the PS4 will block used games. But that was back in February when the rumor about both console blocking used games went rampant so it's unknown whether or not they changed their minds since then. The best thing Sony can do now is confirm that the PS4 will allow used games without fee and they have my (and many others) purchase.
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this is too hilarious.
Holy crap, that's a clear sign M$ should just ditch the console market. LOL
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Yeah. Fuck that shit. Can't say as I much care for PS4 either so far. I'm glad I got a Wii U. It has issues, but it's still fun and it doesn't have all those bullshit restrictions for games on physical media. Hmmm... it occurs to me that what they are trying to do is treat physical media like digital media. Fuck them. This is the kind of shit that makes me want learn how to jailbreak and softmod MS and SONY consoles, even though I don't have any, just so I can do it for other people.
Wii U is pretty much bad too, not as bad as Xbox one is sounding though.
Unless you like Nintendo franchises and don't care about all the third party games that won't be released on it. It does have, literally, one game that I want to play (Sonic Worlds), and it's not even released yet. It's flopping more than the gamecube too. :(
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To summarize:
- Forced online activation for all games
- Complex used games system that is anti consumer
- Charged fee for playing used games on non linked profile
- Console that needs to be connected to internet every 24 hours to play games
- Very few games shown at the event
- Massive emphasis on TV, services and non game related stuff
- Rumoured (relatively weak) hardware confirmed
- DDR3 confirmed instead of GDDR5
- Only 5GB of the 8GB ram available for games (a whopping 3GB reserved for the OS)
- No self publishing for games
- Epic PR disaster with conflicting reports from Microsoft and it's heads
- Xbox support on twitter going AWOL
- Microsoft's failed attempts to correct PR with contradicting FAQ's, vague responses, misinformation, lies etc
- Live TV available in US only at launch, requires separate device
- Lots of announced services are for US only
- Kinect needed to be plugged in for Xbox One to function
- Over emphasis on Kinect
- Always watching and on Kinect is a tad creepy
- Xbox One having non-replaceable Hard Drive's
- COD Ghosts not looking that great (and the only game that had actual direct gameplay shown)
- Xbox One not being backwards compatible with the 360
- Only HDMI for output, leaving people unable to use composite or component cables
- Console quite large whilst still also using quite a large external power brick
- No headset included
- Xbox One being called Xbox One...
- And more...?
And this is how "Always online" and "Game license" work
Since I can't post a thread due to my junior member status, here is the full breakdown + some theory filling in the gaps as to what MS has announced in regards to console operation so far.
Games have mandatory installation and can't be played off discs. Whenever a game disc is inserted and the game is not installed, an Xbox Live connection is required to initialize the install with a one-use key. On the first console you install the game on (main console that is associated with your account) the game will work for any user, and can be played without a disc in the console.
If the game disc is put in a console not mainly associated with your account, the game's install will be a limited one (where only your account is allowed to use it). If another user wants to play the game, they will be required to connect to Xbox Live and pay a fee (which is full price right now according to a statement). If the fee is paid, it becomes available to all users on the console.
Now for the second part. Everytime you log into your account, all the game licenses you have get activated for the console you're playing on (if this is your main console, it allows the game to be played by anyone, if it another, the license only applies to your account). This in turn sends out a deactivate license command to whichever other console had an active license for your games. So if that console happens to be connected to Xbox Live for a bit with whichever account, the games that are licensed to you will stop working right away.
Back to a console with an activated license. Once you disconnect from Xbox Live, a 24 hour timer starts on the game's license validity on that console. Once the license is up, you will be locked out of playing the game until you log back into Xbox Live with your account which will bring the licenses back to active status.
This is done by MS to prevent this type of scenario (with their game installation licenses):
Take a game like Skyrim which can take days if not weeks to complete and can be played completely offline for that amount of time.
Now User A has the license to Skyrim. He goes to User B and installs the game to Console B with his own account. Now User B disables the internet connection and plays Skyrim with User A's account for weeks on end, enjoying the game for free with no money spent on it while User A could also be playing Skyrim on his console while logged in online.
The only thing User B misses out on is achievements on his own account, but many people would not mind not getting achievements on their own account if they got to play games for free.
Anyways, with this 24 hour requirement. User B would only have a 24 hour period (rather than an infinite amount of time) to play Skyrim even while his Xbox was in complete offline mode and he was using User A's account offline.
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/5388492544/h958CE1A4/)
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Wow!
In the end, there will still be idiots who would buy this.
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I just realized...the ones who lack common sense actually outnumber those who don't.
So yeah, sad thing is...this might actually turn up profit. Fuck.
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That is why Microsoft will continue with this.
Kaching~! $$$
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Quote from: DragonSlayr81 on Yesterday at 07:02:59 PM (http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php?topic=6135.msg134263#msg134263)It is funny too, considering this is a good example of anti-consumer practicing. Don't get me wrong, a lot of publishers are clamoring for this too. Y'know, maybe I'm old fashioned, but I would think a cornerstone of any good business is to respect your customers because, ultimately, they ARE the ones buying your products. Maybe it's just a concept that is floundering with every new generation. The "greed is good" mantra of the 80s is making a comeback, tenfold. But, there is some merit to valuing your customers. YOU make money BECAUSE of THEM. You're aim should be to please them and deliver, not only the best product possible, but a product so good your customer says, "Wow, I'm coming back for more!!". It's like the saying, "You can draw more flies with honey rather than vinegar". YOu give them something possitive and it's a Win-Win situation. The customer's happy because they ENJOY your product and service, and you, the company/business is happy because "Happy customers equals MOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY!". More happy customers means MORE MONEY! The more happy people you can draw in with great products and services, the MORE MONEY YOU CAN BE ROLLIN IN!
(Link edited by Jorge so that it shows)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAA1-SgLQhc#t=34s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAA1-SgLQhc#t=34s)
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Wii U is pretty much bad too, not as bad as Xbox one is sounding though.
Unless you like Nintendo franchises and don't care about all the third party games that won't be released on it. It does, literally, one game that I want to play (Sonic Worlds), and it's not even released yet. It's flopping more than the gamecube too. :(
I have to disagree. The console itself is very good. It doesn't have any of the nonsensical shit we're talking about.
Is there a pathetic lack of third party support? Definitely. I blame the third parties for that. Notice how it's all the big name game publishers that have been right in the middle of PR disasters the last two years that are being the most bitchy about releasing games on the system. They set an example for others. And as with all the stupid decisions they've been making as of late, if they actually stopped to think about it they'd realize that the system would do a lot better with their support.
That said, it isn't doing so hot in the sales department, but I wouldn't call it a flop yet. At least it's doing better than the virtual boy?
Well, I did get the system because I knew there would be strong first party support, yes. I like my Mario, Zelda, and Metroid games.
Now, about the XB1. To add insult to injury. NO BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY WITH 360.
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Now, about the XB1. To add insult to injury. NO BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY WITH 360.
And to add salt to THAT wound:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=562549 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=562549)
As one poster said, "It just keeps getting better!". These guys at Microsoft really know how to shoot themselves in the foot. First, Adam Orth mocking the consumers over their worrying regarding "always online", and now the "run-around" rhetoric seen by Microsoft staffers("higher ups" included) where they not only contradict each other, but say asinine stuff like this.
http://www.youtube.com/ (http://www.youtube.com/)
watch?v=NAA1-SgLQhc#t=34s
THIS! See, those guys at Microsoft could use a few lessons in great customer service. Give us the fuckin PICKLE!!!! So could a lot of publishers, like EA especially. Remember publishers and developers, the only reason you are "big" is because WE made you big. Without a fanbase, and I'm not trying to be mean, you are NOTHING! We made you, we can break you! ;) Don't act like we owe you something, we are your customers, YOU are the ones that are supposed to vie over our attention. Remember, a happy customer is a well paying customer!
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I have to disagree. The console itself is very good. It doesn't have any of the nonsensical shit we're talking about.
Is there a pathetic lack of third party support? Definitely. I blame the third parties for that. Notice how it's all the big name game publishers that have been right in the middle of PR disasters the last two years that are being the most bitchy about releasing games on the system. They set an example for others. And as with all the stupid decisions they've been making as of late, if they actually stopped to think about it they'd realize that the system would do a lot better with their support.
That said, it isn't doing so hot in the sales department, but I wouldn't call it a flop yet. At least it's doing better than the virtual boy?
Well, I did get the system because I knew there would be strong first party support, yes. I like my Mario, Zelda, and Metroid games.
Now, about the XB1. To add insult to injury. NO BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY WITH 360.
It's selling worse than the freaking gamecube. If that's not a flop, I don't know what it is one them...
It's online is still not on par with the actual market, shitty OS (even with the update they did, it still sucks for 2013). Lot's of bad points. Yeah, it's better than XBone (lol), but it's not really that great too. It could be a lot better. Ah... it's gimmick point, as much as the 3DS 3D, didn't make the console sell at all. Most of the people don't even care about these two points.
Mario isn't guaranteed to sell consoles to the point of salvation... it can be a shitty Mario game, like Sunshine. Also... it's not like Nintendo cares about Metroid, F-Zero and other great franchises they had...
At least, they got Zelda... let's see what they can do with it.
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And to add salt to THAT wound:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=562549 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=562549)
As one poster said, "It just keeps getting better!". These guys at Microsoft really know how to shoot themselves in the foot. First, Adam Orth mocking the consumers over their worrying regarding "always online", and now the "run-around" rhetoric seen by Microsoft staffers("higher ups" included) where they not only contradict each other, but say asinine stuff like this.
You left out the best part!
If you’re backwards compatible, you’re really backwards,
Way to shit on all us retrogamers AND anyone who might assume that their XBLA purchases would carry over Microsoft. Gods of public relations you are.
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This sums up The XBox-1
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This sums it up better...
Xbox One Reveal 2013 Highlights (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbWgUO-Rqcw#ws)
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XBOX 1 is a trainwreck. Alpha Omega Sin has SPOKEN!!!
Microsoft Confirms Used Game Fees And Mandatory Game Installation for XBOX ONE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSwz9dI3oSk#ws)
XBOX ONE Press Conference Rant (Tear This Motherf*cker A New One Edition) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKm94T0jfzQ#ws)
"XBOX stop touching me!!" :o Omfg! ;D
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Since I can't post a thread due to my junior member status, here is the full breakdown + some theory filling in the gaps as to what MS has announced in regards to console operation so far.
Games have mandatory installation and can't be played off discs. Whenever a game disc is inserted and the game is not installed, an Xbox Live connection is required to initialize the install with a one-use key. On the first console you install the game on (main console that is associated with your account) the game will work for any user, and can be played without a disc in the console.
If the game disc is put in a console not mainly associated with your account, the game's install will be a limited one (where only your account is allowed to use it). If another user wants to play the game, they will be required to connect to Xbox Live and pay a fee (which is full price right now according to a statement). If the fee is paid, it becomes available to all users on the console.
Now for the second part. Everytime you log into your account, all the game licenses you have get activated for the console you're playing on (if this is your main console, it allows the game to be played by anyone, if it another, the license only applies to your account). This in turn sends out a deactivate license command to whichever other console had an active license for your games. So if that console happens to be connected to Xbox Live for a bit with whichever account, the games that are licensed to you will stop working right away.
Back to a console with an activated license. Once you disconnect from Xbox Live, a 24 hour timer starts on the game's license validity on that console. Once the license is up, you will be locked out of playing the game until you log back into Xbox Live with your account which will bring the licenses back to active status.
This is done by MS to prevent this type of scenario (with their game installation licenses):
Take a game like Skyrim which can take days if not weeks to complete and can be played completely offline for that amount of time.
Now User A has the license to Skyrim. He goes to User B and installs the game to Console B with his own account. Now User B disables the internet connection and plays Skyrim with User A's account for weeks on end, enjoying the game for free with no money spent on it while User A could also be playing Skyrim on his console while logged in online.
The only thing User B misses out on is achievements on his own account, but many people would not mind not getting achievements on their own account if they got to play games for free.
Anyways, with this 24 hour requirement. User B would only have a 24 hour period (rather than an infinite amount of time) to play Skyrim even while his Xbox was in complete offline mode and he was using User A's account offline.
This argument doesn't hold water because wouldn't the online verification of the game before it lets you play it take care of this? As an excuse for verification every 24 hours it just doesn't hold water. Even if this were some Bizzaro world were it did though, they should not be able to have this much control over how we use the media after we've bought it* anyway. Valve's steam has an online verification to, you have to log in like once a month. One of these companies realizes that outages can take a while to fix, other has not. But then again one of these companies is actually focused on games to. Microsoft doesn't seem to understand that a major reason many console gamers have stayed console gamers over the last gen has been for perceived (if not actual) convenience, and they're just taking that away.
*Or "bought the license to play it" if you prefer, we still bought the license and should have the right to transfer it whenever we wish to whoever we want. At least when it comes to physical media. You don't see car companies demanding cuts of profits from used car sales because they designed them.
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This argument doesn't hold water because wouldn't the online verification of the game before it lets you play it take care of this? As an excuse for verification every 24 hours it just doesn't hold water. Even if this were some Bizzaro world were it did though, they should not be able to have this much control over how we use the media after we've bought it* anyway. Valve's steam has an online verification to, you have to log in like once a month. One of these companies realizes that outages can take a while to fix, other has not. But then again one of these companies is actually focused on games to. Microsoft doesn't seem to understand that a major reason many console gamers have stayed console gamers over the last gen has been for perceived (if not actual) convenience, and they're just taking that away.
*Or "bought the license to play it" if you prefer, we still bought the license and should have the right to transfer it whenever we wish to whoever we want. At least when it comes to physical media. You don't see car companies demanding cuts of profits from used car sales because they designed them.
Again, it's "pinch-penny greed". ESPECIALLY in this economy(when we haven't actually recovered to a point of modest to productive stability), why would anybody try such an anti-consumer practice such as this? It's like going to a homeless person and saying, "You want a bowl of hot water with a spoonful of chicken seasoning? All your money, your clothes, and we get to beat on you for a minute!". It REALLY is, in a sense, comical in a cartoony fashion. In cartoons and movies, they portray business types, huge corporate high rollers as these sleazy, cut-throat fat cats that are finding any and every possible way to squeeze every last penny from anybody they can, and do so in the most cruelest and inconsiderate means as possible. The whole, "I'd sell my own mom for a nickle" type of cartoonish "greedy bastards" that you kinda don't think CAN exist because, it's just a bloated stereotype. But, LOL, maybe(just maybe), the reason those characters exist is because, well, the are real people out there to inspire them. Sickening, no?
Odd thing about the always online bit. It requires you to check in online once every 24 hrs. What happens if you don't. Say I go on vacation(this is hypothetical, as I don't plan on getting this god forsaken Xblock). Does it automatically check in? Do you have to call a sibling, friend or neighbor and tell them to, once a day, log in for you? Is it really becoming like a fuckin PET? "Hey, don't forget to check on my parakeet once a day, and change the bird seed! Oh yeah, log into the internet with my Xbox One, and don't forget to change it's water bowl, because that thing gets THIRSTY!!!". The rumor(or word, as it's been said by a few sites) is that if you don't log in, the fuckin thing just doesn't work anymore. WTF? So, you skip one day, forget about it because you are preoccupied with, well, LIFE, and you are screwed. The Xbox One transforms into an expensive door stop.
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Angry Joe was pissed. :-\
Xbox One Reveal: Angry Rant (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ekOtn7L1N0#ws)
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I don't remember the Steam requiring people to log in once every month... source?
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Wow... fuck the NeXtBOX. Fuck MS.
Looking at the image of the new exBOX (see what I did there?) it gives me the emotional response as when I look at a bricked Wii.
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I don't remember the Steam requiring people to log in once every month... source?
Personal experience and this http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/828937979095845728/ (http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/828937979095845728/) which states that the limit is apparently 15 days. Though these lockouts could conceivably be the result of (an) unintentional glitch(es) it seems unlikely considering my personal experience with them was over a year ago if I'm remembering right. Make no mistake, Steam is very much DRM. It's just well handled, relatively user friendly DRM. I've had issues modding a game where I was unable to launch it because the new files made the game unable to detect steam for example. Even with Steam's crazygood holiday sales I almost invariably buy games from Gog when given the choice.
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Oh man too funny! I guess since "Nextbox" (haha Flame) is looking to be a Kamikaze mission, I'm gonna sit back and let the console wars unfurl. A month later when the battle has subsided from lack of sales (which i expect both systems to have based on some of the great ideas they've both come up with) I will walk into Gamestop and laugh at all the sad people who purchased one and smile as i trade in some PS3 games ;D. I just can't believe they think its a good idea with these game account permissions. Someone should make a poll now to see which one will outsell the other, then we can laugh about it in a year. JUST HORRIBLE and I myself never really was a MS fan and don't ever see it changing now.
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The Xbox 180 was the best ad for the PS4 I've ever seen!! ;D
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Odd thing about the always online bit. It requires you to check in online once every 24 hrs. What happens if you don't. Say I go on vacation(this is hypothetical, as I don't plan on getting this god forsaken Xblock). Does it automatically check in? Do you have to call a sibling, friend or neighbor and tell them to, once a day, log in for you? Is it really becoming like a fuckin PET? "Hey, don't forget to check on my parakeet once a day, and change the bird seed! Oh yeah, log into the internet with my Xbox One, and don't forget to change it's water bowl, because that thing gets THIRSTY!!!". The rumor(or word, as it's been said by a few sites) is that if you don't log in, the fuckin thing just doesn't work anymore. WTF? So, you skip one day, forget about it because you are preoccupied with, well, LIFE, and you are screwed. The Xbox One transforms into an expensive door stop.
I've always known that we were a wasteful society, but this..? This is THE biggest waste of tech that I, and the rest of the tech world, have ever seen. My bro knows this XBOX is bad. My friends know this XBOX is bad, And I know it's bad. W. T. F!
Oh man too funny! I guess since "Nextbox" (haha Flame) is looking to be a Kamikaze mission, I'm gonna sit back and let the console wars unfurl.
You won't have to. Microshaft just self-annihilated with their own doomsday machine. They didn't even get a chance to tip the scales of war in their favor. Authors should publish a book on the console wars; more specifically about what NOT to do in a console war. This is a dick move. In fact it's the biggest dick move I've ever seen. And it may very well be the only dick move to ever be seen again. This is literally bad history being made in the 21st century. I smell and see a Guinness book world record right now.
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Even my brother, a hardcore Xbox fan, doesn't want anything to do with the X1 (that used game fee crossed the line for him), even going as far as saying he'll get a PS4 and he hasn't bought a Playstation product since the PS1. Everyone is starting to turn their backs on this thing, and serves them right for turning their backs on gamers in the first place.
I hope alot of people catches wind of this shit.
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So MS isn't going to charge YOU for used games... they're just forcing retailers to fork over a cut to them and the game's publisher. Gee, I wonder what that'll do to the average price of the games? :rollseyes:
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Well if the various Windows OS debacles have taught us anything, it's that MS refuses to learn. If this blunder is severe to force them out of the console market, then so be it I guess.
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Recent rumor from Geoff Keighley hints that Sony's going to take a similar stance with used games:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=567973&page=7 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=567973&page=7)
We have some time until it's proven true or not, but if it is, I'm out of the next gen, and who knows, it WILL most likely kill my return to any Sony or Microsoft console in the future. In other words, GAME OVER. I'm still sticking with Wii U, though. Even if it happens to go the route where Nintendo becomes a sinking ship, I'd rather go down with it than hop aboard the "always on, no used games" future the other two ships set sail for.
I know some people go, "Well, it's the future, man! Gotta get with the times, because this is the evolution of technology!" and I don't see it exactly as that. It doesn't seem as beneficial as some believe it to be. My analogy is, what if it became popular to surgically remove your arms and legs and be a stump of a human being. It's called "Nubbing" and it becomes SUPER in-style and is even hailed by the popular peeps as being the future. And then, EVERYBODY starts doing it. To the point that you even question if the world is crazy or if they are sane and YOU are crazy. Still, I hold my ground, if it meant to be considered the last of a dying breed, well then, I'm the last of a dying breed. People could go nub themselves to hell as far as I'm concerned. That's not MY future, and I'm not going to let others dictate(be it popular trend or corporate influence) how I live my life, what I like and what I do.
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We're consumers. WE ultimately decides who profits and who doesn't. So I'll send them a message by not buying this crap, literally not buying it.
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We're consumers. WE ultimately decides who profits and who doesn't. So I'll send them a message by not buying this crap, literally not buying it.
True that!!
Guafafa, did anybody read the updated article I posted? It's still a rumor, but seemingly the rumor says that Sony planned on and because of the negative reaction with XBONE, they are reconsidering it(the feature is on "hold"). So, who knows? Maybe, just maybe, something good WILL come out of this. Hell, if Sony doesn't follow Microsoft's route, then maybe it's a slim glimmer of hope that companies will start to take theit consumers SERIOUSLY and not try to lead 'em around like a puppet master and tell them HOW they SHOULD enjoy their consoles and just LET THEM enjoy their consoles.
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If you want, you can contact the head of Sony worldwide on Twitter and voice your concerns (he's very vocal as well).
https://twitter.com/yosp
If Sony is really reconsidering from using used game DRM due to the negative reactions from Microsoft's side, this'll be a good chance as any to convince them to drop it altogether.
Microsoft has made gamers homeless with the XB1, Sony now has a chance to welcome the homeless with open arms.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TMYso30L9zI# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TMYso30L9zI#)!
Get ready for that next gen CoD technology guys.
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Supre Mario 64 > Crap of Duty
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http://www.joystiq.com/2013/05/26/report-xbox-one-will-be-region-locked/ (http://www.joystiq.com/2013/05/26/report-xbox-one-will-be-region-locked/)
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Ok seriously how many more bullets do they want to stick in their chamber for this round of Russian Roulette? Or Hell at this rate they well as well be playing it with a loaded Glock.
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Haha. Forget the Glock. I'm pretty sure it's a fully-loaded 357 with hollow-tipped slugs to boot. That way we can see all the crap that they shoved up their brainpan over the last few years. I'm betting that when it comes time to pull the trigger we'll be seeing them splatter all over the place.
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Oh what a wonderful splatter they will make!
Hackers will be on standby to break that console.
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I can't believe I'm saying this, but if Sony pulls the same crap as MS, my only system this new gen will be the WiiU and 3DS. I'll be a Nintendo fanboy again.
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http://www.joystiq.com/2013/05/26/report-xbox-one-will-be-region-locked/ (http://www.joystiq.com/2013/05/26/report-xbox-one-will-be-region-locked/)
Is there even a valid reason behind the whole "region lock" thing. I mean, I've always scratched my head and wondered WHY consoles are locked. Wouldn't it be better if they were unlocked? Wouldn't that mean that gamers could BUY games from OTHER countries and other developers from those other countries and enjoy them despite the language barrier(and I mean language heavy games)? That's still, basically, technically, allowing gamers to SUPPORT studios/developers/publishers via international means. And hell, I doubt it would stop those who just want localized games. Especially collectors whose aim is to own both games(meaning they are paying for TWO games).
IMO, it's one of those things about the industry that I never understood WHY it happens because, I'd think, it would allow gamers to BUY MORE games, localized and international!
It's kinda like Nintendo being so prudish in America, but they aren't AS prudish in Japan with stuff like Captain Rainbow and various other "innuendos" in other games. It's still a family system, but I think, especially in THIS day and age, NoA is trying to hold on to the 1950s Americana "Beaver Cleaver" idealized America and protect them from vulgar and sexual things, when I'm pretty sure the average kid-teen frankly doesn't care. Hell, I'd go on to say kids didn't care since the inception of the NES(I know I wouldn't have cared as a 6-year old who used to love watching horror movies complete with tittes, gore, sex and any action movie with Arnie, Sly and such complete with explosions and dismemberment(quite frankly, I might've brought this up, but kids tend to not know the weight of something until grown-ups tell them, as in, kids can see nudity and not understand it's "naughtiness" until an adult tells them it's wrong, and suddenly, it BECOMES "wrong"). Loosen the reins, they've become as bad as an overprotective mother.
Damn, wouldn't it be a perfect world if these game companies LISTENED to their fans?
SQUARE ENIX: "We are here to release Final Fantasy XIII.... directed by Yoshinori Kitase and writen by Nojima!!! Sequels? Wouldn't dream about it! Each game is FINAL! If you want 'sequels', we are proud to announce we are doing a NEW Chrono game!!! We also unveil Final Fantasy Type-0, which will have a simultanious release in Japan and the West!! And last, prepare for it, we are unveiling KINGDOM HEARTS III!!!".
;D
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I can't believe I'm saying this, but if Sony pulls the same crap as MS, my only system this new gen will be the WiiU and 3DS. I'll be a Nintendo fanboy again.
Why not just skip this generation if that happens? There's so much to play in the last generation and the generation before that and so on. Plenty of games to keep you occupied.
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This is awesome(and oddly enough, pretty much align with my belief regarding the industry)!
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/7370-When-The-Starscreams-Kill-Used-Games (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/7370-When-The-Starscreams-Kill-Used-Games)
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Why not just skip this generation if that happens? There's so much to play in the last generation and the generation before that and so on. Plenty of games to keep you occupied.
That's certainly an option. Heck, I only own a 360 this gen, so yes, I have plenty of great games still left to to play. I know I want to get a 3DS, but other than that, I seriously have been considering skipping out this next gen entirely. I've gotten to the age where I can control my impulse to "need" to buy something I want regardless of it's policies towards the consumer.
The fact that my time for gaming is very low, and will continue to be until the baby grows up helps too.
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I know some people go, "Well, it's the future, man! Gotta get with the times, because this is the evolution of technology!" and I don't see it exactly as that. It doesn't seem as beneficial as some believe it to be. My analogy is, what if it became popular to surgically remove your arms and legs and be a stump of a human being. It's called "Nubbing" and it becomes SUPER in-style and is even hailed by the popular peeps as being the future. And then, EVERYBODY starts doing it. To the point that you even question if the world is crazy or if they are sane and YOU are crazy. Still, I hold my ground, if it meant to be considered the last of a dying breed, well then, I'm the last of a dying breed. People could go nub themselves to hell as far as I'm concerned. That's not MY future, and I'm not going to let others dictate(be it popular trend or corporate influence) how I live my life, what I like and what I do.
There are no Apple devices in my house for this very reason.
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I still don't own any Apple devices either :P
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Every device in my house is an Apple device. Even the toaster oven.
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I have an iPod Touch 3G... >:
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Never had any use for over-priced, just as often buggy, Apple devices myself.
My only last generation system was Wii. So far this generation I have a Wii U and I don't think I'll be getting anything else. Last gen it was because of price and lack of content that interested me enough to justify a purchase. This gen it's looking more and more like it will simply be on principal.
To quote Princess Leia, "The more you tighten your grip [Microsoft], the more [potential sales] will slip through your fingers."
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Why not just skip this generation if that happens? There's so much to play in the last generation and the generation before that and so on. Plenty of games to keep you occupied.
Heh, that would be a perfect opportunity to catch up on a crazy backlog. I've finally come to the realization that I probably won't be able to play every single game that I own. :(
This is awesome(and oddly enough, pretty much align with my belief regarding the industry)!
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/7370-When-The-Starscreams-Kill-Used-Games (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/7370-When-The-Starscreams-Kill-Used-Games)
Hell yes. I'm a weekly viewer of the Jimquisition...he's pretty much spot-on with my views. I always assumed he was just a troll whenever people would talk about the review scores he gives games, but I'm a fan now.
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My friend needed to pay her Car Insurance this month...
...so I bought her XBox 360. ;)
Welcome to 2005, baby!
Actually, the region-locking doesn't seem to be because of Nintendo themselves at times, but rather because of groups like the Entertainment Software Association (or, other groups like the RIAA and the MPAA), which want to keep all profits and proceeds within the country of creation of a piece of work. Since Japan and Europe have different laws with their respective versions of these groups, you end up with the USA looking rather greedy (not prudish, though I can see that as well).
Granted, not all console makers, etc. follow what these groups want. I, for one, would like all consoles to be region-free, but I know it's more of a wish than anything else.
If someone can confirm or disprove what I'm saying, please do, as I'm not completely privy to the power the ESA, MPAA, and RIAA have over console/device manufacturers.
I just know I can't see "My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic" in Ecuador FOR SOME REASON when I use Netflix. But in the USA, it's OK.
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Heh, that would be a perfect opportunity to catch up on a crazy backlog. I've finally come to the realization that I probably won't be able to play every single game that I own. :(
That sounds like quite the collection JR, you'd best get started then. I'm also in the same boat although I don't have a lot of games there's still have much left to try out.
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My friend needed to pay her Car Insurance this month...
...so I bought her XBox 360. ;)
Welcome to 2005, baby!
Actually, the region-locking doesn't seem to be because of Nintendo themselves at times, but rather because of groups like the Entertainment Software Association (or, other groups like the RIAA and the MPAA), which want to keep all profits and proceeds within the country of creation of a piece of work. Since Japan and Europe have different laws with their respective versions of these groups, you end up with the USA looking rather greedy (not prudish, though I can see that as well).
Granted, not all console makers, etc. follow what these groups want. I, for one, would like all consoles to be region-free, but I know it's more of a wish than anything else.
If someone can confirm or disprove what I'm saying, please do, as I'm not completely privy to the power the ESA, MPAA, and RIAA have over console/device manufacturers.
I just know I can't see "My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic" in Ecuador FOR SOME REASON when I use Netflix. But in the USA, it's OK.
I still think the idea's silly. If people want to buy imports, they're going to buy them. Of course, not everybody IS. A lot will still buy local/localized merchendise. Collectors will buy both, regardless. Also, IMO, it wouldn't be so bad if more games and such were being released stateside, that's not the case, though. I know not all games are marketable to the west, hence aren't brought over, but that doesn't mean people who DO want them(and go out of their way to import the game, spending MORE money for S&H) should have to jump over extra barriers. It's just, IMO, one of those needless laws people(mankind) instate for stupid reasons that only put limits to enjoyment of products and things. It's funny, we as a society(the whole) really like to tell each other how to do and enjoy things. The whole powertrip thing, limiting options. XBONE is a great example of that!
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I've been buying a lot of PS-X classics lately. Mainly the games I used to own, but have lost/sold/traded in over the years. Now that I have more money as a grown-up I can afford to own those things again. The PS-X has such a great library. Some classics are still overpriced though (Anyone remember Einhander? That SquareSoft shooter, it was pretty cool but it's not cheap).
As for my thoughts on this new X-Box device? I'll probably skip it; I owned an original X-Box when it first came out & literally never played it, so I traded it in. I have a 360 and a few games, but never really play it that much. I suffered through the Red Ring of Death when it was first revealed, so there's no doubt in my mind that this new X-Box will have similar defects. I just think the [X-Box Live Marketplace] exclusives it has are worth keeping it. Harmony of Despair came out first on the 360, and PS3 owners had to wait a while before they ported it. I hate it when they do that. I would rather have it on my PS3 than 360, but since I already bought it for 360 then there's no point on buying it again for my PS3.
I might stick with the PS4. But if Konami/Wayforward makes a Castlevania game exclusive on the Wii-U (just like how Adventure ReBirth is a Wii exclusive), then I'll have no choice but to buy that system. prunyuu~
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http://www.destructoid.com/ms-says-gamers-will-buy-everything-including-xbox-one-254678.phtml (http://www.destructoid.com/ms-says-gamers-will-buy-everything-including-xbox-one-254678.phtml)
"We believe that if all you want is gaming, you'll still pick us, at the end of the day," Spencer dismissively told OXM. "The super core guys, they will buy everything. They will buy all devices, but most people really only do buy one device, and if you're going to think about what that one device is, we believe an all-in-one system that does the best games and TV and entertainment will be something that's really unique."
So they're basically outright calling us sheep now.
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Oh... I'll buy anything eh... they might be right that I'll buy a XO, but after it's cracked to shit.
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It's like they hate money.
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It's like they hate money.
They don't need more money anyway....
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http://www.destructoid.com/ms-says-gamers-will-buy-everything-including-xbox-one-254678.phtml (http://www.destructoid.com/ms-says-gamers-will-buy-everything-including-xbox-one-254678.phtml)
So they're basically outright calling us sheep now.
Huh that's a funny view that guy has. If that was true, then why isn't the PC the unstoppable, number 1 juggernaut seller? And for that matter was wasn't the Xbox360 or other consoles if that was the case?
At this rate they're getting as bad as Cox at ignoring the fans.
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http://www.destructoid.com/ms-says-gamers-will-buy-everything-including-xbox-one-254678.phtml (http://www.destructoid.com/ms-says-gamers-will-buy-everything-including-xbox-one-254678.phtml)
So they're basically outright calling us sheep now.
Oh-ho! I can't wait to learn how to hack the XBONE. I might even do it for free just to fuck those arrogant bastards over even if only a little chip at a time.
"We believe that if all you want is gaming, you'll still pick us, at the end of the day," Spencer dismissively told OXM. "The super core guys, they will buy everything. They will buy all devices, but most people really only do buy one device, and if you're going to think about what that one device is, we believe an all-in-one system that does the best games and TV and entertainment will be something that's really unique."
Right, very "unique". Because the Wii U isn't trying to do the exact same thing with the Wii TV thing at all. They might do it better than Nintendo in the end, but don't try to pass this shit off as an original idea.
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Oh-ho! I can't wait to learn how to hack the XBONE. I might even do it for free just to fuck those arrogant bastards over even if only a little chip at a time.
This is just like how people "hack" their cars & trucks so they can get more mileage out of it without the heavy gas prices burning a hole through their pockets. And of course when the big oil & gas companies hear about this they throw a hissy fit at those responsible with things like suing, jail time or death threats. All these juggernauts need to learn that they cannot control us (the masses) and if there's something that we don't like we WILL change it. that is our right. I say hack the effin' XBOX 180 and see what develops!
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Off topic, but my one greatest desire for my next car, whatever model I get, is to convert it into an electric/veggie oil hybrid. That is if I don't just go all electric.
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Shin megami tensei x fire emblem(WII U) here I come
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http://www.destructoid.com/ms-says-gamers-will-buy-everything-including-xbox-one-254678.phtml (http://www.destructoid.com/ms-says-gamers-will-buy-everything-including-xbox-one-254678.phtml)
So they're basically outright calling us sheep now.
This is getting comical. I don't think I've seen so much contempt for the consumer come from a single product...let alone one that hasn't even been released yet.
Maybe they'll start calling us sons of bitches next!
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Even if they weren't doing everything except to ruin their reputation short of going door to door and punching people in the face, this is horrible HORRIBLE name for a system.
I work in retail and I already KNOW parents and grandparents are going to come in going, "I think Junior said he wanted the first X-box or the original x-box... something like that...."
Not to mention the number of people that won't get one because "You already have an X-box 360. Why would you want the older system?"
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I agree. It's this all about this whole hipper than thou attitude from some advertising people that comes off more egotistical and elitist to me than trendy. And who gives a shit about trendy anyway? Mindless sheep that spend their time talking shit about other people I'd wager.
On a more basic level it's too oblique a way to express it being a step towards an all in one entertainment machine. If they wanted to convey that clearly so that it would actually impact their potential sales meaningfully they should be a little more clear. XBOX Complete, XBOX Total, XBOX Mass, XBOX Singularity, XBOX Omni, XBOX 9yard, XBO Caboodle, XBOX Shebang, XBOX Enchilada, fuck! Anything other than One!
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You forgot some of these; XBOX NEO & XBOX Ultimate.
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THE RIDE NEVER ENDS
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=576869 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=576869)
Apparently the Xbone is already running into technical problems. eSRAM trouble. Something about overheating.
Solution? downgrade the GPU Clock.
To fix it they literally have to make the graphical quality less than the PS4
They've also cancelled their Post-E3 press conference.
The ride
never
ends
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I wasn't expecting something better from Microsoft. Maybe this time they are gonna learn their lesson?
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Wonder if South Park's Trey and Matt will jump on with satirizing this whole thing:
"The XBONE.... it makes you ITS BITCH!", then they show the XBONE basically telling people what they watch, what they should play, spying on them as they sleep and acting like abusive, jealous lovers. The boys get one, and they start to be terrorized by this jealous machine that grows a pair of legs and arms and stalks then when they are at school, asks them where they are going, why and when they are coming back. It winds up killing Kenny. I can TOTALLY see this episode coming out!!! ;D
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Dave: Man! This is an awesome online movie! I gotta show all my friends-
XBOX: I can't let you do that Dave.
Dave: Huh..? Fine then I'll just turn you off for tonight-
XBOX: I can't let you do that Dave.
XBOX: Fine! Go be a stick in the mud! I'm going out...
*Lock*
Dave: What the F**K!? Why is my internet home security system acting up?!
XBOX: I cannot allow you to leave Dave.
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(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FYCZoX5U.jpg&hash=c87a7f54e703c84751ebbe0b38116958)
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HaHa! Leave it to the Police to tell us in song all about the true nature of the XBOX 180!
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I think everyone needs to build a PC or wait and see what the Steam Box is going to be all about.
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Low and Behold no imagination went into this Microsoft E3 2013 Banner.
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.gawkerassets.com%2Fimg%2F18qc6tt1sngawjpg%2Fku-xlarge.jpg&hash=702d078b30d61a0b1624bf8de1915dc2)
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Microsoft's E3 press conference starts in 9 hours.
I'll be waiting for the youtube people to comment on this show.
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Microsoft's E3 press conference starts in 9 hours.
I'll be waiting for the youtube people to comment on this show.
hope you and everyone has some kind of snack for.... this event...thing? Can I even say it's an event or conference after all that has happened?
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Its on now people.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=581089 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=581089)
And its unconfirmed for the moment but it looks like Gold Membership is MANDATORY.
http://gematsu.com/2013/06/rumor-microsoft-buying-ps4-non-mentions-more (http://gematsu.com/2013/06/rumor-microsoft-buying-ps4-non-mentions-more)
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Well, I guess it won't be too far off to say that M$ is aboard the Titanic.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BMaGRUjCEAAfLTq.png)
Because Micro-Shaft has no standards.
Watch Dogs E3 2013 Trailer (Multi-System Title)
Watch Dogs Exposed Trailer - E3 2013 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqoQG_XYF-8#ws)
Metal Gear Solid 5 The Phantom Pain Gameplay Trailer (Multi-System Title)
Metal Gear Solid 5 Gameplay Trailer E3 2013 - OFFICIAL GAMEPLAY! (MGS 5 Xbox One/PS4 HD) E3M13 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPwYYLvdd_Y#ws)
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Ha! Looks like they're getting desperate. They've made all these systems that almost everybody doesn't want and now they are trying to pawn them off through other venues. If Microshaft wanted to try and fix their mistake, they'd racall all their consoles, redesign the effin thing without all that useless mumbo-jumbo, big brother crap and they would have a winner. But it's too late for that.
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Is that Spanky Ham's VA voicing Ocelot..?
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Ha! Looks like they're getting desperate. They've made all these systems that almost everybody doesn't want and now they are trying to pawn them off through other venues. If Microshaft wanted to try and fix their mistake, they'd recall all their consoles, redesign the effin thing without all that useless mumbo-jumbo, big brother crap and they would have a winner. But it's too late for that.
True. Had they not made the XBox One so Draconian people would have been willing to buy the system. But in reality because of their Draconian system gamer's are going to wait to find out which XBox One titles are also to be released for the PS4.
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This is some bs -_-
Killer Instinct Xbox One Debut Trailer - E3 2013 (Stream) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJiRgnh6EFg#ws)
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Wow. Just, wow.
First of all they'd have to give me an XBone for me to even allow one of those monstrosities in my home. Then I'd promptly sell it off.
Second, MS is seriously overestimating how much money the average gamer or even the average dudebro is going to be willing to spend
ON SHIT THAT WAS FREE IN THE LAST GENERATION!!! Have they gone completely insane?!?
If Sony fallows suit, they'll practically be handing the gaming market to Nintendo. That is, provided they get off their buts and rally more third party support and make their 3DSware more accessible by making them usable on the Wii U.
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http://pixelenemy.com/microsofts-new-kinect-patent-will-spy-on-you-for-the-mpaa/ (http://pixelenemy.com/microsofts-new-kinect-patent-will-spy-on-you-for-the-mpaa/)
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This is just like how people "hack" their cars & trucks so they can get more mileage out of it without the heavy gas prices burning a hole through their pockets. And of course when the big oil & gas companies hear about this they throw a hissy fit at those responsible with things like suing, jail time or death threats. All these juggernauts need to learn that they cannot control us (the masses) and if there's something that we don't like we WILL change it. that is our right. I say hack the effin' XBOX 180 and see what develops!
I tend to "hack" my car to use more gas and go zoom-zoom. lol
After the reveal, pretty much expected. Skirted around the big rumor issues, but displayed a boat load of games. Some titles seem interesting, other were just multi-platforms I'd pick up for PS4 (Metal Gear, woo!) or PC (Battlefield 4, woo!) anyway. Price point is lower than I expected though, 499? I was wagering closer to 599, but not the 350 numbers I saw thrown around in rumors. Now it's time to see what Sony's move is going to be for the PS4 tonight. I'm going to slap my knee in laughter if they come out with a 450 price point, just to drive the screws into MS.
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Wow. Just, wow.
First of all they'd have to give me an XBone for me to even allow one of those monstrosities in my home. Then I'd promptly sell it off.
Second, MS is seriously overestimating how much money the average gamer or even the average dudebro is going to be willing to spend
ON SHIT THAT WAS FREE IN THE LAST GENERATION!!! Have they gone completely insane?!?
If Sony fallows suit, they'll practically be handing the gaming market to Nintendo. That is, provided they get off their buts and rally more third party support and make their 3DSware more accessible by making them usable on the Wii U.
I dunno. The cynical part of me believes there are honestly truckloads of people out there who won't read about or care about the same restrictions we do, enough so that it's still a disgustingly large success.
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Well I think Sony just committed murder and the victim was identified as Xbox One.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA)
Xbox Juan price: $500
PS4: $399
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MICROSOFT TOLD STATUS:
[ ] NOT TOLD
[ ] TOLD
FUCKING TOLD
CASH4TOLD.COM
KNIGHTS OF THE TOLD REPUBLIC
TOLDERONE
STONE TOLD STEVE AUSTIN
CURE FOR THE COMMON TOLD
BEN TOLDS
THE 40 YEAR TOLD VIRGIN
007: TOLDENEYE
TEXAS TOLD’EM
AUSTIN POWERS IN TOLDMEMBER
PTERODACTOLD
TOLDTINO’S PIZZA ROLLS
NO COUNTRY FOR TOLD MEN
24 CARAT TOLD
ONLY SHOOTING STARS BREAKTHE TOLD
GOING ONCE… GOING TWICE… TOLD
GARY TOLDMAN
TOLD SPICE
TOLD STONE CREAMERY
BABY IT’S TOLD OUTSIDE
POKEMON TOLD AND SILVER
TOLD YELLER
EL DORADO: THE LOST CITY OF TOLD
TOLDPLAY
THE TOLD AND THE BEAUTIFUL
DANNY DEVITOLD
TOLDEN SUN
FOR WHOM THE BELL TOLDS
CAN’T TEACH A TOLD DOG NEW TRICKS
I AIN’T SAYIN SHE A TOLD DIGGER
TOLDING CHAIR
TOLDIER OF FORTUNE
THE TOLDEN COMPASS
TOLDEN AXE
TOLD MACDONALD HAD A FARM
ROCKIN TO THE TOLDIES
BATTLETOLDS
YE TOLDE PUB
TOLDEN CAULFIELD
THE TOLD MAN AND THE SEA
TOLD MEDAL WINNER AT THE OLYMPICS
ALL OF THE ABOVE
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Well I think Sony just committed murder and the victim was identified as Xbox One.
I think we can call that justifiable homicide.
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I think we can call that justifiable homicide.
Yep.
Now Nintendo will come tomorrow to bury the remains, in concrete.
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It was fuckin beautiful when they announced it! It was like a full two minutes of applause. My GOD, so epic! Really, I know I was on the fence about a PS4, but dammit Janet, I just might have to pick me one up. That and FUCCCKKKING FINAL FANTASY VERSUS...ER..XV!!!! Yum!!
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Oh my god, is that a real edit? LOL
Anyway, I'm looking at Wikipedia's spec comparison between the two, and XBONE looks less powerful and yet more expensive. I'm not precisely rooting for PS4, but after seeing M$' ridiculous anticonsumerism, I'm rather glad it got WTFPWN'd.
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Man, the XBox One news just kept getting better! I'll bet it stabs you in the belly button when you take it out of the box! :o
So glad Sony had a good conference. I was almost certain the PS4 was going down the same route as the XB1 in terms of DRM and all that. I never buy new consoles at launch, but if what Sony's saying is absolutely true, then I may have to pick up a PS4 and some games on day one.
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Official PlayStation Used Game Instructional Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA#ws)
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And the wins keep on stacking, PS4 is region free.
http://gematsu.com/2013/06/playstation-4-is-region-free (http://gematsu.com/2013/06/playstation-4-is-region-free)
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Sounds great, but i'm not planning getting any new console, any time soon.
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Oh my god, is that a real edit? LOL
yeah. if you check the Talk page, they are discussing that the console wars are back XD
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The Cynical Redub - Xbox One E3 Conference 2013 - Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v=zwjsYJWrvtE#ws)
All that and rape jokes to, stay classy Microsoft.
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Official PlayStation Used Game Instructional Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA#ws)
And THAT is what it looks like when a big corporation performs a bitch slap.
@Ratty: Your link is broke, here: The Cynical Redub - Xbox One E3 Conference 2013 - Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwjsYJWrvtE#ws)
So... Dead Rising 3 minus everything anyone ever like about Dead Rising 1 & 2. Yeah. That's the way to create a following from your fans. Hey, Crapcom! Stop following Konami's lead!!
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And THAT is what it looks like when a big corporation performs a bitch slap.
Yes
Also
SNIP
You forgot "Knights of the Told Republic"
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You forgot "Knights of the Told Republic"
KNIGHTS OF THE TOLD REPUBLIC
lol no he didn't. :P
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Bwaahahaha. Sony pwn3d Microsoft. They just put salt in that wound.
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lol no he didn't. :P
Huh, wonder how I missed that. Been one of my favorites for a long time.
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Official PlayStation Used Game Instructional Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA#ws)
That is just freakin' hilarious.
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yeah. if you check the Talk page, they are discussing that the console wars are back XD
I wonder if they realize that Microshaft can't even begin to enter into the console wars because of their sorry excuse for a console. The only ones who'd be able to fight it out is Nintendo and Sony. Microshaft might as well commit Seppuku as it's the only viable option left open to them.
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Damn, even after Sony's crushing blow, Microsoft refuses to abandon it's ultra douchery:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=584496 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=584496)
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Well, it's Microsoft, what do you expect?
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I never had faith in MS to deliver. It seems I am right in doing so 8)
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Just gonna leave this here.
XBOX ONE RANT Part 2 (Cause They Just Keep F*Cking Up) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4kKvrA3S-Y#ws)
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Another twenty minutes of how Microshaft shot themselves in the foot and continue to do so. In the same place. Awesome!
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Just gonna leave this here.
XBOX ONE RANT Part 2 (Cause They Just Keep F*Cking Up) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4kKvrA3S-Y#ws)
Now that's what I call righteous nerd rage. He's right of course.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yC8FbgGnd0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yC8FbgGnd0)
Uhhh. I'm confused that's the best Microsoft can come up with? It's too..
Anyways I had a conversation today about ps4/ xbox and I realized how I bring games to my friends pad often and in recent years how I know they take care of their stuff and mine when we borrow I was like $^!T at the very end! it may not happen much but still... overall I still do not agree wirh xbone and there are still so much things being thrown about I'm trying to gather as much info as I can but one question is if the ps3 is what 399$ what parts are being used and for that price tag could the ps4 possibly have an easy breakdown (this was also part about the conversation and I kind of forgot the price of it when we talked :-[ )? Sony products are usually good to me and that is why I never thought about it but how probable is it ?
Time will tell but as it stands we all know who is destroying right now :P I can't type this with a straight face it's kind of sad....
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What the hell is this? Are MS execs TRYING to get fired over bad PR?
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If XBOX ONE Were A Girl (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2Ug29BVEPI#ws)
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So I've been hearing something about Microsoft (unsurprisingly) shooting themselves in the foot (yet again) regarding their stance towards the Asian market, what was it again?
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Bwaahahaha. Sony pwn3d Microsoft. They just put salt in that wound.
Bad news... Jorge (in spanish)
http://www.meristation.com/playstation-4/noticias/%5Be3-2013%5D-los-estudios-esperan-medidas-anti-segunda-mano-en-ps4-y-en-xbox-one/44672/1873986 (http://www.meristation.com/playstation-4/noticias/%5Be3-2013%5D-los-estudios-esperan-medidas-anti-segunda-mano-en-ps4-y-en-xbox-one/44672/1873986)
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Well that's nothing new. They said themselves at E3 that they would leave DRM up to the publishers, but that they themselves would have no specific DRM on the CONSOLE. In other words, NO mandatory connectivity, NO mandatory game install and disc obsolescence, and none of that fun stuff related to used games and game sharing.
The PUBLISHER, (EG: Capcom, Konami, etc) can put it on the GAME if they want, but the SYSTEM, the console, will not have any of those features by default.
However, last minute or not, they at least listened. They realized that Microsoft was shooting themselves in the foot repeatedly, and that if THEY listened, and did the opposite, they would win many Xbox fans over, and essentially win E3
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Bad news... Jorge (in spanish)
http://www.meristation.com/playstation-4/noticias/%5Be3-2013%5D-los-estudios-esperan-medidas-anti-segunda-mano-en-ps4-y-en-xbox-one/44672/1873986 (http://www.meristation.com/playstation-4/noticias/%5Be3-2013%5D-los-estudios-esperan-medidas-anti-segunda-mano-en-ps4-y-en-xbox-one/44672/1873986)
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Translation (by me):
According to sources consulted by EDGE and participating companies developing games, both Xbox One as well as Playstation 4 will end up having measures to control the second-hand trading of games (used games) with this new generation.
Sources indicate that what happened in Sony's Conference "is nothing but a public relations game" to satisfy users during 2013's E3 conference in Los Angeles this week.
Later on, after Sony had assured that third parties will be free to apply anti-secondhand (anti-used game trading) special measures if they so wish. Microsoft's Xbox One will also maintain this level of politics, though it will also force the console to connect every 24 hours.
These same informants assure that Sony's decision not to have measures with anti-second hand protection in the console was made at the final hour. In the following video, the Playstation 4 (development?) house explains how to lend games in their console.
(video is the "Game Sharing Instructional Video posted here earlier)
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If XBOX ONE Were A Girl (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2Ug29BVEPI#ws)
huh. for some reason that's all what I can say.
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I turn one degree and hit it a bunch of times with a sledgehammer.
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Well, do not know what to say, I'm in doubt, I always played the XBOX with my girl
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This pretty much sums up any word of a future console war raging on in our near future=)
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Back in Black - Future Technology - The Daily Show 6/12/13 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1hbY3AM4Q8#ws)
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The GERMANS called the new Kinnect a twisted nightmare!?! HAHAHAHAHA!!!! That just brought me to tears... due to uncontrollable ROFLcoptering.
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Now I'm wondering what the story behind GOLPEAN A DR SIMI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpKijvlqOss#) is.
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The best way to understand how the PS4 works:
It's exactly as it is with PS3 right now. Publishers can make "offline" singleplayer games that requires online connection. But that's not Sony's problem at all. And we can CHOOSE to support that or not. They are giving us the CHOICE. And that's very important. :)
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Hey look everyone its the gut's of a new XBox 360. You see Microsoft sorta still cares about 360 users. XBox 360 E.
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http://kotaku.com/take-a-peek-at-what-s-inside-the-new-xbox-360-513235309 (http://kotaku.com/take-a-peek-at-what-s-inside-the-new-xbox-360-513235309)
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Xbox+360+E+Teardown/15062/1?singlePage (http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Xbox+360+E+Teardown/15062/1?singlePage)
http://kotaku.com/the-witchers-anti-drm-studio-finds-itself-in-a-bind-wi-513296668 (http://kotaku.com/the-witchers-anti-drm-studio-finds-itself-in-a-bind-wi-513296668)
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Every time I think Microsoft can't get any lower, they go get themselves a new shovel and start digging.
http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=205110 (http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=205110)
MICROSOFT PROMOTES XBOX ONE @ NINTENDO BEST BUY EVENTS? - *ANTI* XBOX ONE NEWS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n2LOQ4N_98#ws)
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Wow, if that's really true then that's extremely pathetic. I laughed at first, but now I don't know how to react.
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Now I'm wondering what the story behind GOLPEAN A DR SIMI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpKijvlqOss#) is.
Kiiiiiinda hoping those dudes get brutally ass-raped.
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Just gonna leave this here.
XBOX ONE RANT Part 2 (Cause They Just Keep F*Cking Up) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4kKvrA3S-Y#ws)
Oh cack, please never link to this guy again. I find him outrageously obnoxious and for a while I kept getting recommended his videos on YouTube.
SO I WON'T BE WATCHING YOUR VIDEO, SIR.
But I would like to lay one of my own:
Quick Rant - Things that sucked about E3: The wrap-up. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sLpG6_36Cc#ws)
These are kinda my thoughts as well. It's good that Sony hasn't implemented the awful policies and features that Microsoft has, but it's not worthy of "LOOOOOOOOOL ZOMG SONY KICKED ITS BOOT RIGHT UP MICROSOFT'S ASSHOLE!" What Sony did are the kinds of things I'd expect from a console developer, and I'm not going to hand out special praise just 'cos they're not completely mucking things up. It's still good PR on their part to address these issues, though.
Requiring PS+ to play online is super bogus, though. I rarely play online, but when I do it's only because the servers are free. So this cripples me. And what Maddox says about free-to-play (for PS+ subscribers) games possibly disappearing should Sony have no more direct competition is absolutely spot-on. Companies don't usually do this kind of thing because they feel they owe the consumer; it's usually because they wanna offer an incentive for you to join their side and buy their products and not the other schmoe, which makes competition and capitalism a good thing. Take away the direct competition (Microsoft) and things could potentially be hazardous.
And if I'm not mistaken, Sony were considering the idea of DRM and disallowing sharing or playing used games on their console. Had there not been such a public backlash toward MS, Sony may have gone right ahead and done the same. It's a shame when companies turn anti-consumer, but hey, not everyone understands how to please the customer—and there are too many dopes in the world who won't REFUSE to buy something even though they know they're being screwed over, because they've convinced themselves they can't live without such a thing.
That said, in a dreamworld I wish MS would bow out of the console market and it would just be Nintendo vs. Sony again. Those were good times. Nintendo's too intent on doing their own thing for that to really work anymore, but with the Wii U getting some (one) "hardcore" games (Bayonetta 2), hopefully there will be more such third-party support and maybe there COULD be direct competition between the two giants again. And I'd love it. The 360 was just a necessary evil in my book, and I never was a fan of the original Xbox.
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I kind of agree. Just because Microsoft seem to be burning their own house down while turkey slapping everyone, it doesn't automatically mean Sony is going to be cinnamon-flavored bacon with ice cream on the top. They saw an opportunity to stomp on MS while they're getting thrown with rotten vegetables. And they took the opportunity to start charging for online play.
And I honestly wouldn't be terribly surprised if XB-1 won't fail in sales. The power of marketing is a strange thing that can't be underestimated.
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Well hey, there's Xbox One Mountain Dew and Doritos, and fat slobs across America love Mountain Dew and Doritos.
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I like Nintendo's attitude about the whole used games thing.
http://www.gamespot.com/e3/nintendo-devs-concerned-over-used-sales-should-make-better-games-6410228/ (http://www.gamespot.com/e3/nintendo-devs-concerned-over-used-sales-should-make-better-games-6410228/)
"Worried people will sell your games back only for them to be purchased used by someone else? Make better games!"
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Hahah, Oh Reggie.
Keep that pimp hand strong, Reggie. "Make better games".
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fat slobs across America love Mountain Dew and Doritos.
Would anybody really be surprised if microsoft adopted this as an official marketing slogan?
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GameStop handing out flyers to tell customers about Xbox One's restrictions | (http://gimmegimmegames.com/2013/06/gamestop-handing-out-flyers-to-tell-customers-about-xbox-ones-restrictions/)
Microsoft’s Don Mattrick Stands Silent As George Lucas and Steven Spielberg Diss Video Games but Praise Kinect | DualShockers (http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/06/13/microsofts-don-mattrick-stands-silent-as-george-lucas-and-steven-spielberg-diss-video-games-but-praise-kinect/)
Minecraft 360 saves won't transfer to Xbox One - NeoGAF (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=589811)
Kotaku: Ryse QTEs complete themselves! Devs: Please do not be frustrated. - NeoGAF (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=589916)
Winners and Losers From E3 Video Game Show (http://www.cnbc.com/id/100813533?__source=yahoo)
NeoGAF - View Single Post - Wall Street Journal :"PS4 Demand Exceeding Sony's Expectations (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=63352821&postcount=419) #1
NeoGAF - View Single Post - Wall Street Journal :"PS4 Demand Exceeding Sony's Expectations (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=63570246&postcount=432) #2
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OMG!!!!! :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Fuck Microsft!!!!
http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Xbox-One-Games-E3-Were-Running-Windows-7-With-Nvidia-GTX-Cards-56737.html (http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Xbox-One-Games-E3-Were-Running-Windows-7-With-Nvidia-GTX-Cards-56737.html)
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http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Microsoft-Denies-Hiring-Marketers-Vote-Cheat-Negative-Xbox-One-Reddit-Threads-56494.html (http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Microsoft-Denies-Hiring-Marketers-Vote-Cheat-Negative-Xbox-One-Reddit-Threads-56494.html)
Now they're actually going and hiring people to go online and say good things about them.
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When a USED game Business like Gamestop is handing out pamphlets to people buying XBox One to inform them of its restrictions like a Restaurent MENU you know you're in trouble.
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-06-14-the-xbox-one-question-why-did-microsoft-do-it (http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-06-14-the-xbox-one-question-why-did-microsoft-do-it)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=587951 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=587951)
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And as they say(it's a saying heard a LOT regarding XBONE), "It just keeps getting better!":
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=590951&page=3 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=590951&page=3)
These fuckers are hellbent in total and utter CONTROL over the lives of gamers, no? And they keep on saying that their way is the way of the future. Y'know what Microsoft, YOU don't tell us what the future brings and tells us WE have to conform to YOU. YOU exist because fo US, so KNOW YOUR FUCKIN PLACE! WE have say over what the future holds, what trends are popular and want we WANT to see become relevant. The customer's ALWAYS RIGHT, remember? It's the number ONE FUCKIN RULE IN BUSINESS! WE DECIDE, not YOU. You want our MONEY, listen and obey. Provide us with something we WANT and I can assure you, you will be rollin' in the money. Try to tell us you KNOW what's good for us, and I can assure you, we'll rebel and cut you down to size.
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Microsoft’s Don Mattrick Stands Silent As George Lucas and Steven Spielberg Diss Video Games but Praise Kinect | DualShockers (http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/06/13/microsofts-don-mattrick-stands-silent-as-george-lucas-and-steven-spielberg-diss-video-games-but-praise-kinect/)
It seems pretty obvious Spielburg and Lucas don't know a goddamn thing about the gaming industry. The gaming industry isn't all Dudebro. And forthe record real "hardcore" gamers are not the ones that spend all their time exclusively playing Halo and Call of Duty.
Furthermore the thought of getting rid of controllers for "full-immersion" seems more like pandering to the un-imaginitive. I immerse MYSELF in the games I play because I have a well developed imagination.
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Who, seriously, gives a shit what Lucas and Spielburg thinks? Spielburg is an obviously paid off critic and Lucas sold Star Wars after destroying the franchise. Not to mention Star Wars was his one hit wonder. And Spielburg would put 2 thumbs up his mom if they gave him a nickel.
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Who, seriously, gives a shit what Lucas and Spielburg thinks? Spielburg is an obviously paid off critic and Lucas sold Star Wars after destroying the franchise. Not to mention Star Wars was his one hit wonder. And Spielburg would put 2 thumbs up his mom if they gave him a nickel.
Well they had Indiana Jones to.... aaaand then fucked that up. (That one's probably mostly on Lucas, who insisted for decades that if there was a 4th it should have aliens until Ford/Spielberg just gave up.) Then there was Jurassic Park, which was really only good the 1st time. But you're right, trusting a movie maker's thoughts on games and what gaming needs is like asking a horse breeder his opinions on jet engine repair.
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=590951 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=590951)
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But you're right, trusting a movie maker's thoughts on games and what gaming needs is like asking a horse breeder his opinions on jet engine repair.
Spielberg did supposedly design Boom Blox, and that game is bangin'.
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Unless the Gamestop app on my phone is a dirty, lying sonofabitch, then the XBOX ONE (-way ticket to social pariah status) bundles with either Call of Duty or Battlefield 4 are among their best sellers...oh, the humanity. Seriously humanity, what's up with that? I thought you were better than this.
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All I can say for this "next" gen stuff so far is ............YAWN. Nintendo has completely disappointed me by building a shiny new console to compete with LAST gen consoles. Sony still hasn't done anything to make the Playstation brand stand out or unique. And MS seems fairly hell bent on making a lot of gamers NOT want their new console. Not to mention that there hasn't been really any next gen titles announced thus far that even remotely interest me (outside of Forza 5). All the games I'm currently awaiting are coming to PS3 and 360 (GTA5, AC4, GT6, World of Tanks)...so it looks like I will be sitting out the "next gen" mess for the foreseeable future.
Can't say that this is any different than previous console generation turnovers, though. With the exception of the N64, there hasn't been a single console I've ever bought during the first year of its release. I'm in it for the games, not the machines that play them. As far as all the juvenile console fanboy nonsense going on on the net currently.......color me disgusted. Nothing I hate more than gamers that throw all loyalty behind a console rather than behind the games they play. None of these big companies deserve that kind of loyalty (unless you're on the take). All these "next gen" consoles have things I'm not sold on or that I'm not completely happy with. That being said, when the next generation of games begin to show up for these machines I will do what I always have done.......I'll go where the games I want to play are. I stopped with the fanboy nonsense when the Nintendo vs Sega rivalry came to an end (the last GREAT console rivalry IMO).
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No entity should have that kind of loyalty. That sort of fanaticism is dangerous.
That said, I'm quite happy with my Wii U. It has fun games, all my Wii hacking fuckery works on it, and the tablet controller (I refuse to call it a game pad, the SNES had a game pad) work like a universal remote.
The ONLY system I have EVER bought for myself in the first year new is the Wii U. Can't say I see that happening with Sony or MS.
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Spielberg did supposedly design Boom Blox, and that game is bangin'.
Ahh yes that game. Never played it but heard it was good. Wonder how much actual input he had on it though, or if his contributions were exaggerated for branding purposes like with Tiny Toons*/Animaniacs/Freakazoid.
*Though iirc he had the significant contribution in this one of convincing the studio to make the characters students rather than literal descendants or baby versions of the original iconic Loony Tunes.
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Boom Blox is awesome.
Boom Blox: Bash Party is also awesome but not too much changed.
Fun times with those games. :D
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Now they're actually going and hiring people to go online and say good things about them.
This is exactly the same shit the big oil companies do whenever they feel the heat from environmentalists demanding either cleaner products or replacement products. They buy up as many scientists as they can in order to create a false report to sway public opinion and make themselves look good.
Can't say that this is any different than previous console generation turnovers, though. With the exception of the N64, there hasn't been a single console I've ever bought during the first year of its release. I'm in it for the games, not the machines that play them. As far as all the juvenile console fanboy nonsense going on on the net currently.......color me disgusted. Nothing I hate more than gamers that throw all loyalty behind a console rather than behind the games they play. None of these big companies deserve that kind of loyalty (unless you're on the take). All these "next gen" consoles have things I'm not sold on or that I'm not completely happy with. That being said, when the next generation of games begin to show up for these machines I will do what I always have done.......I'll go where the games I want to play are. I stopped with the fanboy nonsense when the Nintendo vs Sega rivalry came to an end (the last GREAT console rivalry IMO).
I've been saying it for years now, that you play the system for the games. Not the system. you can't play a console as it is nothing more then an interactive tool used to play games. Nothing more. Yet many people out there still fail to realize that simple truth so the raise a stink about how said system is better then the other said system without any knowledge about what they're arguing about. I've played nearly every game console and all have there good and bad points, but in the end I play them for the games because I love the games that were made for the system. I can't even begin to tell you how many arguments and conflicts I've heard and seen due to the fanaticism over a console rather then the games themselves :P
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Microsoft employee trying to sway people at the WiiU's best buy event into buying an Xbox One (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKI5QzPYP9k#ws)
Bad Microsoft Bad Bad Bad...
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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/15/ar...gewanted=print (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/15/ar...gewanted=print)
http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/m...x-one-reaction (http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/m...x-one-reaction)
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertco...m-except-xbox/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertco...m-except-xbox/)
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If Konami announced that the next hi-res 2D Castlevania game was gonna be an XBox One exclusive...
WOULD YOU BUY IT?
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If Konami announced that the next hi-res 2D Castlevania game was gonna be an XBox One exclusive...
WOULD YOU BUY IT?
Nope.
I would cry though. Like a baby.
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If Konami announced that the next hi-res 2D Castlevania game was gonna be an XBox One exclusive...
WOULD YOU BUY IT?
FUCK NO!!
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If Konami announced that the next hi-res 2D Castlevania game was gonna be an XBox One exclusive...
WOULD YOU BUY IT?
Nope. Instead I'd say
www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1QCBF3h_tM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1QCBF3h_tM#ws)
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Castlevania or no Castlevania, my stance towards M$ remains the same:
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If Konami announced that the next hi-res 2D Castlevania game was gonna be an XBox One exclusive...
WOULD YOU BUY IT?
Absolutely not! It would be a dick move on konami's part to even consider making a CV game that's XBOX 180 exclusive.
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If Konami announced that the next hi-res 2D Castlevania game was gonna be an XBox One exclusive...
WOULD YOU BUY IT?
...I think my brain is bleeding right now. AAARRRGGHH
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If Konami announced that the next hi-res 2D Castlevania game was gonna be an XBox One exclusive...
WOULD YOU BUY IT?
No way.
Beside I believe that it would never happen. Almost all 3rd party games are aiming for multi-console platforms to rake in more money.
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Considering I'm not the biggest fan of the recent CV ventures, they'd have to sell me REAL hard to at least consider it....
... and even then, I'm just going to say "NO!".
Would be a bullshit move, though. I know they say CV is popular in the West, and Microsoft's XBOX systems are the most popular AMONG the West, but Konami better not get some kinda idea that, "West loves CV more than Japan. West loves XBOX! We'll sell more if we go exclusive on XBONE!!! Brillaint!!!".
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Not even Mega Man Legends 3 Exclusive would make me buy an Xbox Juan.
And I bought a PS2 exclusively for X8.
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Not even Mega Man Legends 3 Exclusive would make me buy an Xbox Juan.
And I bought a PS2 exclusively for X8.
Yeah, but to be fair, I'd think MML3 would be deemed "too kiddy" for the likes of XBONE and the Microsoft Master Race. MS: "Turn Mega Man into a dudebro with a neck thick like a tree trunk, and have it play like Gears of War, then we'll talk, Capcom!".
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http://www.warpzoned.com/2013/06/congressmen-propose-we-are-watching-you-act-an-anti-kinect-bill/ (http://www.warpzoned.com/2013/06/congressmen-propose-we-are-watching-you-act-an-anti-kinect-bill/)
lolwut.
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I'd vote for that. American society today seems waaay to comfortable with near total loss of privacy. No one is even throwing around the word terrorist this time. This is pathetic.
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I'd vote for that. American society today seems waaay to comfortable with near total loss of privacy. No one is even throwing around the word terrorist this time. This is pathetic.
It's funny, isn't this how sci-fi stories decades past predicted our eventual submission to the hands of a Totalitarianism corporate regime or robot uprising would take place? And when movies like that used to come out, people would say, "Nah, nah, we aren't THAT stupid! We can distinguish something that would lead to that sort of predicament and stamp it out before it even happens. No robots will ever uprise, no "Big Brother" always watching you, no greedy corporations seeking dominance over all and every aspect of our lives! We are too smart, as a people, to let that happen.". Damn, we aren't, are we? :-[
That being said, look what Adam Orth is up to:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=596366 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=596366)
Adam Orth strikes me was one of those young pretentious "New Liberal" brats that think they can do whatever they want and act surprised if it offends people. Kinda like in King of the Kill, when that couple with the bratty son moves, and they let their kid call Hank names, mess up his property, and shake it off as "Oh, he's just expressing his creativity!". It's kinda banking on "entitlement" and how, say, It's in my right to treat a customer like crap because it's the "freedom of being 'me'" and I shouldn't be fired for being "me". LOL, keep thinking that, Orth. Customer Service isn't going to change because customers still love to feel special and their happiness is VITAL to the livelihood of BUSINESSES. Ethics, learn about them and stop being a fuckin douche who thinks he can say anything he wants and have people kiss his ass for it. Law of the world, you say something that offends people, they are going to be pissed. You're just lucky you haven't did this in public, because believe it or not, people love to beat up assholes. Yeah, people don't like assholes, go figure! ESPECIALLY when they are condescending asshole douchebags.
Funny thing, Orth isn't much different than the lot of those at MS. Only reason he got fired was because he fired his "smug gun" before the battle even started. Mattrick, Nelson and the others: "Dude, you gotta wait until we ALL fire our pretentious remarks! It's supposed to be a TEAM EFFORT of DOUCHERY! You're not a team player, so get out!!".
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LOL if you have Facebook and can see this page take a look (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151675469526023)
Epic 'comments' attack (the first 1000 at least)
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Kinect Self-Awareness Hack (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVCghLfdzsY#ws)
Perhaps College Humor will found the resistance movement?
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that was hilarious.
Most likely how it will react to used games.
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Microsoft woke right the fuck up, used game DRM dropped, no always online, region free etc.
http://kotaku.com/microsoft-is-removing-xbox-one-drm-514390310?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Facebook&utm_source=Kotaku_Facebook&utm_medium=Socialflow (http://kotaku.com/microsoft-is-removing-xbox-one-drm-514390310?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Facebook&utm_source=Kotaku_Facebook&utm_medium=Socialflow)
The console wars have begun.
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Microsoft woke right the fuck up, used game DRM dropped, no always online, region free etc.
http://kotaku.com/microsoft-is-removing-xbox-one-drm-514390310?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Facebook&utm_source=Kotaku_Facebook&utm_medium=Socialflow (http://kotaku.com/microsoft-is-removing-xbox-one-drm-514390310?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Facebook&utm_source=Kotaku_Facebook&utm_medium=Socialflow)
The console wars have begun.
Just because they decide they aren't going to break into your house, molest your pets, and urinate all over everything doesn't mean they wouldn't have done it if they could have gotten away with it.
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Keep in mind, that they are STILL pushing the Kinect, and so far, the price is still half a grand.
unless they lower the price and/or adjust the Kinect deal, they are still more or less in the same boat.
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Surprise, now does the same as PS4 at 100$+
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OOoook look at the backpedaling.
Complete with laying on the compliments real thick.
If it's really that easy to remove it, it may be just as easy to put it back after a clever EULA a few years in.
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They've already had the awful PR to mar their system up to the launch date and it's still way overpriced to the much more powerful PS4. If this is a war, it's the equivalent of Microsoft shooting both legs off and then crawling to its pistol whilst screaming "OK OK IT WAS A MISTAKE LET'S DO THIS FOR REAL" while Sony is aiming a cannon at them.
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It's good they are doing this. The more competition, the better. See, Microsoft, Sony, whoever the hell thinks they are "in charge", WE tell you what we want and WE tell you when the future starts. Now that THAT is out of the way, commence the fighting for our adoration!
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Well, if you go by this...
http://www.gameplanet.co.nz/xbox-one/news/1100500.20130522.Microsoft-backpedals-on-Xbox-One-used-game-always-online-statements/ (http://www.gameplanet.co.nz/xbox-one/news/1100500.20130522.Microsoft-backpedals-on-Xbox-One-used-game-always-online-statements/)
Then signs point to microsoft not knowing what the heck it's actually doing and whether or not it's back peddling anywhere.
My favorite part is the multiple people stepping forward to say, "anything we told you before is just speculation. Don't trust any of it."
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I'd rather see Microsoft just humbly bow out of these console wars & make a neat handheld or something. A portable 360 would've been sweet.
Part of me still wishes SEGA kept going strong & the triforce of companies (Sony, Sega, Nintendo) would be in competition once more. That, or Sony & Nintendo join forces like old friends burying the hatchet (they were partners once upon a time) and battle Microsoft
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It's good they are doing this. The more competition, the better. See, Microsoft, Sony, whoever the hell thinks they are "in charge", WE tell you what we want and WE tell you when the future starts. Now that THAT is out of the way, commence the fighting for our adoration!
That's the best part of all of this, if we hadn't opened our mouths and said "NO TO DRM!" they would have continued on with the used game DRM and such as planned.
And all those so called "journalist's" on twitter and youtube that said our voices wouldn't be heard and to just take it from behind just got told something fierce. *coughTotalbiscutcough*
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http://www.warpzoned.com/2013/06/congressmen-propose-we-are-watching-you-act-an-anti-kinect-bill/ (http://www.warpzoned.com/2013/06/congressmen-propose-we-are-watching-you-act-an-anti-kinect-bill/)
lolwut.
Can't tell if satire or a legitimate proposed bill.
It's a little funny that the same folks who support the "Six Strikes" and NSA crap are trying to forbid a device from invading on someone's privacy. I suppose the gubment wants to be the only ones spying?
And if MS really are changing the way the Xbone works, good on them. This is why competition is good because if there were only one option left, they'd basically be able to do whatever they want and they'd make money anyway because they're the "only" option available. I hate MS's involvement in the console market, but if Sony didn't have any direct competitor, they'd undoubtedly in the future make anti-consumer decisions.
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And if MS really are changing the way the Xbone works, good on them. This is why competition is good because if there were only one option left, they'd basically be able to do whatever they want and they'd make money anyway because they're the "only" option available. I hate MS's involvement in the console market, but if Sony didn't have any direct competitor, they'd undoubtedly in the future make anti-consumer decisions.
A company's place is best suited vying for our dollars via healthy competion(because not only does it keep them on their toes, we get better products because of it), and not by telling US what WE need and how we should allocate OUR lives around their grand agenda and submit as sheep being lead to the slaughter.
I wonder how all those MS sympathizers are doing now? I was reading some of the threads on NeoGAF and there are a few angry because of this. My god, I know opinions can't by wrong, but I'm glad people who think like THAT aren't in any highly influential position of power, and even more glad they are in the minority. If history has taught us, nobody's asking to be lead around by a cold, iron hand of tyranny more than those with the "Let's just not rock the boat and let's best leave well enough alone!". No, sir, we won't. If there's bullshit out there and people are afraid to call it for what it is, you can sure as hell WE won't keep silent!
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Well, if you go by this...
http://www.gameplanet.co.nz/xbox-one/news/1100500.20130522.Microsoft-backpedals-on-Xbox-One-used-game-always-online-statements/ (http://www.gameplanet.co.nz/xbox-one/news/1100500.20130522.Microsoft-backpedals-on-Xbox-One-used-game-always-online-statements/)
Then signs point to microsoft not knowing what the heck it's actually doing and whether or not it's back peddling anywhere.
My favorite part is the multiple people stepping forward to say, "anything we told you before is just speculation. Don't trust any of it."
what the cluster fuck is that all about?
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THAT, right there sounds like they're all fumbling all over themselves working on damage control. They're full of shit. They planned on all of these things and when we found out and the shit hit the fan they weren't ready for it. People didn't end up getting fired over 'speculation'.
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As if they were ever good at damage control *COUGH*WindowsVista*COUGH*
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imo, for sega to come back, Microsoft has to leave. the xbox was the spiritual successor to the dreamcast.
realistically though, given the sad story behind how the ceo saved the company from bankruptcy and died shortly... I doubt they'd want to come back
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Keep in mind, that they are STILL pushing the Kinect, and so far, the price is still half a grand.
unless they lower the price and/or adjust the Kinect deal, they are still more or less in the same boat.
I'd be willing to bet that we'll see MS drop a Kinect-less X1 package for $100 less before the end of the first year. The Kinect was largely needless innovation...I can't believe it survived the 360 to live again on the X1. I always under the impression that Kinect-tech was a dud sales-wise. Guess some genius in marketing felt otherwise.
As far as the X1's pricing being a "deal-breaker", let's not forget...the PS3 debuted at the hefty price of $599, yet I highly doubt it stopped anyone in here from picking it up.
Regardless, I don't see any of these PR woes slowing down MS' momentum in the console market. Pre-orders were already topping that of the PS4 BEFORE MS did its about-face with the X1's connection and rental/used games policies. Like it or not fellas, it's going to be another tight race....and for anyone who truly claims to be a hard line supporter of the consumerism movement, that's a good thing. Having one company take the mantle and obliterate all other comers would just end badly for those of us in the gaming hobby, eventually.
Guess I still don't get the whole console fanboyism deal these days. I get people not liking one company over another, but it baffles me that so many nerd-rage over needing one company to get kicked out of the console race altogether. At any rate, it won't happen. Even a slow return on a single console generation doesn't mean that any of these three companies would be going anywhere. How long has it been since Nintendo held the console crown??? (and they're STILL making consoles). Might as well get comfy, Xbox is here to stay; and for all those who would never own an MS console to begin with....what does it matter to you? You still have Nintendo and Sony to donate your "loyalties" to. As long as there is a choice, we all win...don't we?
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As far as the X1's pricing being a "deal-breaker", let's not forget...the PS3 debuted at the hefty price of $599, yet I highly doubt it stopped anyone in here from picking it up.
It sure as hell stopped me.
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I bought a 360 because I could buy a cheaper version at the cost of some HD space. I would have gotten a ps3 otherwise. That said, Wii-U and PS4 for me this gen.
on kinect- didn't sony essentially hide its move by integrating it in the controller?
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Skepticism, ho!
Xbox One Will Not Require Internet, Restrict Used Games, or Be Region Locked (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVzwI_aImrw#ws)
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http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/125523-Xbox-One-Designed-With-Advertising-in-Mind (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/125523-Xbox-One-Designed-With-Advertising-in-Mind) Yeeeeaaaaaahhhh. So it's going to use voice recognition to tailor your ads, I assume this means if you sound like a kid you're gonna get Dora the Explorer ads, if you sound like a teen/20 something male it'll be military shooter ads all day everyday etc. Said ads are integrated into the dashboard in such a way that they're "part of the experience" you know, like in a free to play game except $60+.
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In other news, Don Mattrick has apparently left Microsoft (which most likely is just PR lingo for getting the boot) for Zynga.
http://allthingsd.com/20130701/exclusive-microsofts-entertainment-head-don-mattrick-leaving-to-take-top-role-possibly-ceo-at-zynga/ (http://allthingsd.com/20130701/exclusive-microsofts-entertainment-head-don-mattrick-leaving-to-take-top-role-possibly-ceo-at-zynga/)
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Ba-Zynga ;D
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XBOX ONE Fanboys Petitioning to Bring Back the Restrictions....WTF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAyapQayGOw#ws)
...Excuse me while I go and reboot my brain.
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Good gods. Really? Damn. At least they haven't even hit 1000 signatures yet.
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http://gizmodo.com/why-im-getting-the-xbox-one-not-the-ps4-ugh-512840127 (http://gizmodo.com/why-im-getting-the-xbox-one-not-the-ps4-ugh-512840127)
I'll just leave this right here. :rollseyes:
*bangs head against wall*
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http://gizmodo.com/why-im-getting-the-xbox-one-not-the-ps4-ugh-512840127 (http://gizmodo.com/why-im-getting-the-xbox-one-not-the-ps4-ugh-512840127)
I'll just leave this right here. :rollseyes:
*bangs head against wall*
This just proves that there are people who actually think like that. Oh my.... :'(
Now I understand why Microsoft made the Xbone that way. /facepalm
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...How long must I continue losing faith in humanity?
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...How long must I continue losing faith in humanity?
Till you cease to exist.
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http://gizmodo.com/why-im-getting-the-xbox-one-not-the-ps4-ugh-512840127 (http://gizmodo.com/why-im-getting-the-xbox-one-not-the-ps4-ugh-512840127)
I'll just leave this right here. :rollseyes:
*bangs head against wall*
I was gonna post something, but it seems the author has already gotten his ass properly, thoroughly, and rightly reamed already.
Till you cease to exist.
Yeap. Pretty much.
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XBOX ONE Fanboys Petitioning to Bring Back the Restrictions....WTF
This...defies all known logic that has ever existed in human memory. This is the same as a third world country willingly petitioning the return of a fascist dictator AFTER he'd already been thrown out due to his heinous crimes. Those fanboys have either deluded themselves, been brainwashed or Microshaft is paying them top dollar to do this. What ever happened to common sense? Oh! That's right... it was tossed out the window. I guess we should nominate the so-called XBOX 180 fanbase for the next Darwin awards.
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Wow, fanboys are actually petitioning to get all the restrictions back? That's like sheep freely and happily dancing their way into a slaughterhouse. "C'mon! Let's all get butchered! Yay!!". I usually give people the benefit of the doubt, but in all seriousness, people like THAT should disappear. They are setting progression back CONSIDERABLY. We strive for ways to move forward so that we all can benefit from various freedoms fight for(and attain). Freedoms that make our lives BETTER. I know there are some great examples I can give, but it would just prove to be offensive(even when I think of it, it offends me). It's just... urgh. Really makes me sick to the stomach that anybody could be so brainwashed so that they could happily give up their freedoms for restrictions. It's like saying, "Rule me! I trust you!", but NOT ONLY that, they want this for EVERYONE! >:(
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Legacy Part 2 - Full Darkseid Fight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTECNKpZAM4#)
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I'm going to go under the assumption that these were actually started by people working for microsoft just so microsoft can turn around and go "see? Some people didn't think we were Satan."
Granted, that would only account for some of the people that have signed the petition. The rest I'm just going to assume are escaped mental patients.
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It's just, when I see things like this, I imagine that scene in Pink Floyd's The Wall with the zombie/puppet children marching to and falling into the large meat grinder. Some part of me wants to think that people can't be that souless and blank. Like I said when XBONE was first announced, the whole "forfeit your rights" thing, that's how all those fuckin sci-fi dystopia stories begin. That's how mega companies become totalitarian rulers. That's not a beautiful picture of a potential future, and it sends a shiver down my spine to think ANYBODY(that there exists even one) can be, "Oh well..." regarding that potential possibility(giving up ANY rights and letting a mega company have say over something you basically are FREE to do NOW). Sometimes you GOTTA say "No!". No to the companies and no to the sheep.
NeoGAF brings up the similarities to Stockholm Syndrome. I also see it like those crazy women who write to convicted serial killers, truly believing that the killers are innocent. That one batshit crazy chick who believes Joran van der Sloot has changed(and how he really didn't MEAN to kill anybody). How can people lack so much sense?
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So apparently some are saying that the petition are actually the work of PS fanboys who want the Xbone to sink as much as possible. Sounds more likely, but still pretty retarded, not to mention underhanded.
http://kotaku.com/ridiculous-online-petition-demands-return-of-xbox-one-d-731263477 (http://kotaku.com/ridiculous-online-petition-demands-return-of-xbox-one-d-731263477)
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The Xbox One dashboard will also change how ads are displayed to users. "On Xbox [One], the ad is part of the actual experience, it's not something that is outside. The only difference is that the advertisement we have is quite small and not disruptive so people are not aware of clicking on the banners because they know this is a part of the whole experience on the dash." Sounds to me like they are deliberately trying to trick people into clicking on ads by making them seem like they aren't ads, but an official part of the dashboard.
Sounds like shit to me. "The ad is part of the experience?" Fuck that. Sounds like some PR crap cooked up by some delusional higher-up. Either way, I've been pretty happy with gaming on my PC as of late and I think this next gen is where I bow out of the console race.
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...I leave this thread for a week and its its raining stupid from atop XBox 180 Hill again. :rollseyes:
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CONSPIRACY!!!
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CONSPIRACY!!!
I think so too. I've heard a rumor that Microshaft was approached by members of the US government about the new XBOX system and requested that it be equipped with all the unnecessary crap that it didn't need during the planning phase. Apparently this was done via Gorge W. Bush's Patriot act. All for spotting potential terrorists in american homes...or homes around the world for that matter. Kinda reminds me of the Metal Gear solid series where the world is being unnecessarily upgraded with the Patriot system in order to "Control" the masses. It's as if Hideo Kojima, in his own way, unknowingly foretold our own future. My bro has been an XBOX enthusiast since the first console launch, but he knows when it's time to hang up a console. He doesn't want anything to do with this piece of S**T because of it's controversial additions.
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Kojima will have to get in line for that credit.
1987 by George Orwell (http://www.worldcat.org/title/george-orwells-1984/oclc/14165067)
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So apparently some are saying that the petition are actually the work of PS fanboys who want the Xbone to sink as much as possible. Sounds more likely, but still pretty retarded, not to mention underhanded.
http://kotaku.com/ridiculous-online-petition-demands-return-of-xbox-one-d-731263477 (http://kotaku.com/ridiculous-online-petition-demands-return-of-xbox-one-d-731263477)
Thinking about it, I guess, I wouldn't put it pass a retarded fanboy's mind to sink another system they have no intention of playing. Too bad idiots, who think it will only harm the others and not themselves are... well idiots. I will never understand such people. But at the same time, it might not be. Some people were "dismayed" when they heard it loses that 10 friends feature. But then again, it could MS as well, posing to make the public think it's a good thing instead of a bad thing. There are too many angles to view this from. While it could even be Sony, but I don't see why they really would, as they are already way ahead from the competition as far as I can see. No need for them to risk their "assumed" integrity for this.
And yea. that Orwells book seems to be brought up a lot recently. I need to give it a read, but it sounds like it from what people constantly say about it and our current situation. And its' 1984, not 1987.