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Title: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Dremn on March 07, 2014, 06:20:10 AM
Via Konami Facebook:

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Entitled ‘Revelations’, the new content will be released on March 25th and follows fan-favourite Alucard, as exclusive new branches of the immersive storyline are uncovered.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10153862246605697.1073741863.220827690696&type=1 (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10153862246605697.1073741863.220827690696&type=1)

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More screens in the link.

EDIT: Trailer is up

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/alucard-rises-in-castlevania-lords-of-shadow-2-revelations-dlc/1100-6418388/ (http://www.gamespot.com/articles/alucard-rises-in-castlevania-lords-of-shadow-2-revelations-dlc/1100-6418388/)
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations -Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: beingthehero on March 07, 2014, 06:24:45 AM
They were kind of a disaster last time, but Lords Alucard kind of makes me wish NECA would do a Lords line, even if it was only Alucard.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations -Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Viskod on March 07, 2014, 06:29:42 AM
Oh thank god.

Until now, when the other description of this DLC was that we would see what Alucard was doing during the events of Lords of Shadow 2, that would mean we'd be playing as him in that awful black armor.

So very happy to see its his default attire.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations -Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Dremn on March 07, 2014, 06:33:19 AM
Until now, when the other description of this DLC was that we would see what Alucard was doing during the events of Lords of Shadow 2, that would mean we'd be playing as him in that awful black armor.
He probably steals it at the very end of the DLC, he kills Zobek's original body guard and disguises himself.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Viskod on March 07, 2014, 06:38:03 AM
I hope this DLC explains why if the only thing keeping Zobek from reading Gabriels mind about his (Gabriels) and Alucards plan to betray and kill Zobek, was the fact that 1000 years of incapacitation eroded his memory... What kept Zobek from reading Alucards mind?

Or did Alucard swipe the helmet from Magneto to keep Professor X there from reading his thoughts?
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Ahasverus on March 07, 2014, 06:45:17 AM
Yay Alucard. He's so cool. Day one.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: DragonSlayr81 on March 07, 2014, 06:52:54 AM
Well, looks like there's more to explore in the Toy Maker's area. Those dancing puppets are soooo an allusion to the dancing ghosts in the original series.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: GigaDan on March 07, 2014, 06:56:07 AM
Sure, you can be a wolf, but are there wolf-doors? [/hard hitting questions]
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: zaxiou on March 07, 2014, 07:04:35 AM
I hope this DLC explains why if the only thing keeping Zobek from reading Gabriels mind about his (Gabriels) and Alucards plan to betray and kill Zobek, was the fact that 1000 years of incapacitation eroded his memory... What kept Zobek from reading Alucards mind?

Or did Alucard swipe the helmet from Magneto to keep Professor X there from reading his thoughts?

That's precisely what's bugging me. I can buy "it's all according to Keikaku" Alucard but how come Zobek never read his mind all that time?

Other than that the screens look good, looking forward to this.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: e105beta on March 07, 2014, 07:53:53 AM
That's precisely what's bugging me. I can buy "it's all according to Keikaku" Alucard but how come Zobek never read his mind all that time?

Other than that the screens look good, looking forward to this.

Or how about how is Alucard running around inside Gabriel's head?

I mean, ideally there'll be no city levels in this DLC (false, false hope) but that doesn't explain how he's in the castle.

Also, I noticed they removed Alucard's belts. So they can re-use Dracula's animations?
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Viskod on March 07, 2014, 08:07:59 AM
Well there's no reason to think Alucard couldn't actually be in the real castle itself before it fell.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Little Dracula on March 07, 2014, 08:27:34 AM
Man, only one week after the game released they announce the frikin DLC, I hate this world of DLC that we live on.

I will buy it if the price is fair.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Viskod on March 07, 2014, 08:42:42 AM
It was announced and known before the game came out. I don't understand the anti-DLC vitriol myself. I always appreciated additional content to games I've bought.

I think about a month afterwords is a decent enough time to release some DLC. Its time enough that a lot of people have finished the game, but its still fresh in their mind so they're more likely to want to go back and revisit it.

Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Ahasverus on March 07, 2014, 09:05:38 AM
Bergaron said they weren't developing this dlc until the game was released so I kinda expect a rush job (perhaps Konami just ordered them to rush with it so they can cut loses). On the other hand this brings the announcement of the new developers closer than we thought.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: zaxiou on March 07, 2014, 09:10:53 AM
Or how about how is Alucard running around inside Gabriel's head?
The Dlc takes place before Los2, so Alucard in the castle makes sense. It must be sometime after their meet up in the prologue.



I can understand the Dlc as almost 1/3rd of all comments/reactions was "Give us playable Alucard". As long as they keep it within the castle I'm cool.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Viskod on March 07, 2014, 09:15:26 AM
Bergaron said they weren't developing this dlc until the game was released so I kinda expect a rush job (perhaps Konami just ordered them to rush with it so they can cut loses). On the other hand this brings the announcement of the new developers closer than we thought.

Oh, I thought that Cox said the DLC this time would be better because it was being worked on at the same time as the game.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Ahasverus on March 07, 2014, 09:33:44 AM
Oh, I thought that Cox said the DLC this time would be better because it was being worked on at the same time as the game.
Who do you trust more, Bergaron or Cox?
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: crisis on March 07, 2014, 09:38:08 AM
i trust God, and He's never let me down >:(
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: e105beta on March 07, 2014, 09:39:11 AM
Who do you trust more, Bergaron or Cox?

What if Bergaron turns out to be Cox playing us from both ends?
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: zaxiou on March 07, 2014, 09:42:54 AM
i trust God, and He's never let me down >:(

Going by his track record from LoS, Goodluck.  :P
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Ahasverus on March 07, 2014, 09:45:16 AM
i trust God, and He's never let me down >:(
You're already dead.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Viskod on March 07, 2014, 09:48:49 AM
Who do you trust more, Bergaron or Cox?

I don't know who Bergaron is?

What I was thinking came from an interview with Cox from back in June of 2012 where he said any DLC for Lords of Shadow 2 would be planned out ahead of time and not expand upon the ending but rather be a side story that fills in more of the plot of the actual game.

The same one where he mentions the DLC for the first game being a rushed mistake they did not intend.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Ahasverus on March 07, 2014, 09:52:51 AM
I don't know who Bergaron is?

What I was thinking came from an interview with Cox from back in June of 2012 where he said any DLC for Lords of Shadow 2 would be planned out ahead of time and not expand upon the ending but rather be a side story that fills in more of the plot of the actual game.

The same one where he mentions the DLC for the first game being a rushed mistake they did not intend.
He's like Jesus. You don't know him. But you should believe him. Actually he has a better track record than jesus.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: DragonSlayr81 on March 07, 2014, 10:22:19 AM
Who do you trust more, Bergaron or Cox?
One's a known liar, the other's been a trustful supplier of information. Hmmmm....

You're already dead.
We are all dead men.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Dremn on March 07, 2014, 10:41:37 AM
I don't expect this DLC to be anything special, but we'll see.

Not out of spite, but LoS1's DLC was really disappointing. Not getting my hopes up about this.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: EstebanT on March 07, 2014, 10:57:54 AM
I hope the crissaegrim is crissaegrimy.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: e105beta on March 07, 2014, 11:04:18 AM
I don't expect this DLC to be anything special, but we'll see.

Not out of spite, but LoS1's DLC was really disappointing. Not getting my hopes up about this.

That's the best approach at this point. Keep your hopes low, so that if it does turn out to be decent, it's pleasantly surprising.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: EstebanT on March 07, 2014, 11:11:36 AM
Already disappointed. Glaciem and Igneas sound suspiciously like void and chaos.... Hmmmm... We already played that Mercurysteam.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: e105beta on March 07, 2014, 11:19:51 AM
Already disappointed. Glaciem and Igneas sound suspiciously like void and chaos.... Hmmmm... We already played that Mercurysteam.

It's DLC, not a sequel. I'll be happy if:

A. No rats
B. No Golgoth Guards
C. The weapons at least have different moves from the Void Sword and Chaos Claws
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Flame on March 07, 2014, 11:23:33 AM
i trust God, and He's never let me down >:(
That will be your ruin!
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Viskod on March 07, 2014, 11:24:47 AM
No no no no no.

It needs Golgoth Guards, just to let us slice one to pieces.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on March 07, 2014, 01:25:52 PM
Getting this simply because Alucard is playable and I have money to spare. ;D

Someone brought up the possibility of this being set during the Prologue before LOS2 2 which I hope is true since that would mean no Castlevanai City.

But alas I doubt this is the case.

And also, who here thinks they are definitely going to reuse some Dracula void sword animations and attacks for Alucard?
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Mike Belmont on March 07, 2014, 02:40:25 PM
And also, who here thinks they are definitely going to reuse some Dracula void sword animations and attacks for Alucard?

Me (-raises hand-). Why? Because they do with the combat cross from LoS 1 and the Bloodwhip from LoS 2. There is nothing bad about that, but is to simplify the character animation, I think.

Someone here says that maybe in the end Alucard fights with the real Zobek´s bodyguard, to steal his armor. So... what if the name of the guard is Slogra or Gaibon? You known, since SCVIV that dudes are Death´s "bodyguards", or something like that. After all, coming from MS using of names, I will not be surprise with that...
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: EstebanT on March 07, 2014, 03:29:07 PM
The whip recycling from los2 and los1 isn't as bad as the recycling in MoF in my opinion.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Maedhros on March 07, 2014, 04:21:23 PM
It was announced and known before the game came out. I don't understand the anti-DLC vitriol myself. I always appreciated additional content to games I've bought.

I think about a month afterwords is a decent enough time to release some DLC. Its time enough that a lot of people have finished the game, but its still fresh in their mind so they're more likely to want to go back and revisit it.
Content supposed to be on the main game being sold after it. It could be an extra mode for finalizing the game FOR FREE included on the initial value of the game.

Specially considering how early this one is coming. Sometimes, I don't mind then.

-------

Anyway... I was pretty excited before playing the game... but now that I've played and I know it's not that good... I dunno if I really want to play this... =/
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: derision on March 07, 2014, 04:43:40 PM
Content supposed to be on the main game being sold after it. It could be an extra mode for finalizing the game FOR FREE included on the initial value of the game.

A lot of people assume that the "content" part of dlc is just being arbitrarily cut from away games, but I don't think this is a fair assumption across the board. I imagine that a lot of said content, when it involves a fair amount of new assets anyways, would not even be made to begin with if the game wasn't specifically allocated the additional money and time to work on it.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: e105beta on March 07, 2014, 04:46:12 PM
A lot of people assume that dlc content is just being arbitrarily cut away games, but I don't think this is fair assumption across the board. I imagine that a lot of the content of dlc would not even be made to begin with if the game wasn't specifically allocated the additional money and time to work on it.

Unless it's Javick DLC for Mass Effect 3. That was cut solely to sell Collector's (lol) Editions.

Honestly, though I won't feel scammed by this DLC as long as it delivers. No stealth and little to no modern city? I'd be a happy camper.

Seeing as Cox claimed 4-5 hours, it's probably about 3, which isn't too bad, just as long as it's not $9.99 again.

Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Maedhros on March 07, 2014, 04:51:23 PM
A lot of people assume that dlc content is just being arbitrarily cut from away games, but I don't think this is fair assumption across the board. I imagine that a lot of the content of dlc would not even be made to begin with if the game wasn't specifically allocated the additional money and time to work on it.

But that's 99% of the DLC practices we have these days. Only a few is content that actually was made after the game finished. And I'm not even talking about skins and shit, things completely abusive, that in the past was accessible only with a Konami Code or using a special name, for example. Think of it as Richter Mode on SOTN. If it was today, it would be a paid DLC.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: e105beta on March 07, 2014, 04:54:35 PM
But that's 99% of the DLC practices we have these days. Only a few is content that actually was made after the game finished. And I'm not even talking about skins and shit, things completely abusive, that in the past was accessible only with a Konami Code or using a special name, for example. Think of it as Richter Mode on SOTN. If it was today, it would be a paid DLC.

Unfortunately it's the nature of the game.

I guarantee you, if the digital technology we had today existed 10 years ago, we'd be seeing the same stuff.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: derision on March 07, 2014, 05:03:02 PM
Multiple people quoting my post before I edited it... funny how the pace of the conversation increases when not talking about Castlevania specifically.

But that's 99% of the DLC practices we have these days. Only a few is content that actually was made after the game finished.

Whether it's made after the game is finished or not is a moot point. I'm suggesting that there are certainly instances in which time and resources are given to content BECAUSE it is planned to be DLC in advance. Without that additional money and time it just wouldn't happen, or would be abridged. Developers can afford to work on such content during the initial development of the larger game since they have been allocated additional resources and can even further mitigate the costs because of it being priced separately. Granted this does not happen all the time but it is worth noting the very real possibility.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Maedhros on March 07, 2014, 05:07:42 PM
Unfortunately it's the nature of the game.

I guarantee you, if the digital technology we had today existed 10 years ago, we'd be seeing the same stuff.
I'm sure it would be the case. Hopefully I was born at the right time.

Multiple people quoting my post before I edited it... funny how the pace of the conversation increases when not talking about Castlevania specifically.

Whether it's made after the game is finished or not is a moot point. I'm suggesting that there are certainly instances in which time and resources are given to content BECAUSE it is planned to be DLC is advance. Without that additional money and time it just wouldn't happen, or would be abridged. Granted this does not happen all the time but it is worth noting the very real possibility.
Then companies should learn to shut they mouths. Annoucing DLC before the game is released is pretty ridiculous, as anyone will think the content could be included on the game.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: derision on March 07, 2014, 05:22:33 PM
Then companies should learn to shut they mouths. Annoucing DLC before the game is released is pretty ridiculous, as anyone will think the content could be included on the game.

Luckily that's not happening here, is it? I don't have an issue with expansions being revealed close but after a game's release (several weeks seems fair), since developers/publishers are going to want to attract as much attention as they can of their current/prospective player base before they move on and are no longer receptive to news about a particular game.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Flame on March 07, 2014, 05:41:19 PM

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Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Maedhros on March 07, 2014, 05:53:43 PM
Luckily that's not happening here, is it? I don't have an issue with expansions being revealed close but after a game's release (several weeks seems fair), since developers/publishers are going to want to attract as much attention as they can of their current/prospective player base before they move on and are no longer receptive to news about a particular game.
They announced MONTHS before plans for DLC on this game, when they were asked.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: derision on March 07, 2014, 06:32:51 PM
They announced MONTHS before plans for DLC on this game, when they were asked.

Send me a link to this "announcement" since you can't expect me to find it when searches are flooded with recent news about Revelations. I hope you're not referring to Cox's "if we do dlc it won't be like LoS1" thing, or his "maybe" when asked about a potential piece of dlc.

Also, a hint or announcement of yet-to-be-defined dlc doesn't indicate much more to me than "this game will be supported with additional content in the future". Not anywhere in the same ballpark as what I was referring to, in which specific dlc is deliberately defined and flaunted before release.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on March 07, 2014, 06:41:13 PM
Send me a link to this "announcement" since you can't expect me to find it when searches are flooded with recent news about Revelations. I hope you're not referring to Cox's "if we do dlc it won't be like LoS1" thing.

Also, a hint or announcement of yet-to-be-defined dlc doesn't indicate much more to me than "this game will be supported in the future". Not anywhere in the same ballpark as what I was referring to, in which specific dlc is deliberately defined and flaunted before release.

I can't remember a announcement either, but I do believe the member Bergaron who is supposed to work for MS or something If i'm not mistaken let it be known months before the game was released that MS was planning a Alucard DLC with LOS2 and although it was not a official announcement from MS or Konami you have to take into consideration this is a guy who has been right about so many things concerning the LOS series before the games where even out which leans credibility to him working for them.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: derision on March 07, 2014, 06:49:18 PM
I can't remember a announcement either, but I do believe the member Bergaron who is supposed to work for MS or something If i'm not mistaken let it be known months before the game was released that MS was planning a Alucard DLC with LOS2 and although it was not a official announcement from MS or Konami you have to take into consideration this is a guy who has been right about so many things concerning the LOS series before the games where even out which leans credibility to him working for them.

I already know about all of this, not sure what your point is. If you're trying indicate that the dlc was being made alongside the game, then I already addressed this. Of course it has, and that doesn't necessarily mean anything.

If that's not what you're saying, then let me say that leaks don't factor into this conversation since what's being discussed are formal announcements. Unless you really want to give credit to Konami's marketing team, leaks don't represent ill intent here since they're accidental.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on March 07, 2014, 06:57:16 PM
I already know about all of this, not sure what your point is. If you're trying indicate that the dlc was being made alongside the game, then I already addressed this.

If that's not what you're saying, then let me say that leaks don't factor into this conversation since what's being discussed are formal announcements.

It had no point to it, just thought I would add something in about how I haven't heard any announcements either and what I had heard about the Alucard DLC before the game's launch.

Me quoting you had more with me letting it been known that I also had not seen a official announcement for DLC from Konami or MS months before the release of LOS2.

No need to be so uptight, you seem to take stuff very seriously.

I know what was being discussed, just thought I would chim in a bit.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: derision on March 07, 2014, 07:07:30 PM
No need to be so uptight, you seem to take stuff very seriously.

God forbid I take a thoughtful stance only to be marked down while people bandwagon around image macros.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on March 07, 2014, 07:08:27 PM
God forbid I take a thoughtful stance only to be marked down while people bandwagon around image macros.

your only further proving my "uptight" notion with such a reply lol.

I haven't seen a member like you since Sumac.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: derision on March 07, 2014, 07:41:03 PM
your only further proving my "uptight" notion with such a reply lol.

I haven't seen a member like you since Sumac.

On the flipside, you're only furthering my "notion" that you're being pointlessly petty. I would compare you with a forumer myself, but let's be honest, there are a ton of such people on the web.

I responded in kind to a reply in which you quoted me and then brought up information that I didn't think was all that relevant to what I was discussing with someone else. It wasn't your intention to argue with me, but there are more straightforward ways to clear the air than by stinking it up with repeated, weird little jabs. Don't make this personal.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on March 07, 2014, 07:45:56 PM
On the flipside, you're only furthering my "notion" that you're being pointlessly petty. I would compare you with a forumer myself, but let's be honest, there are a ton of such people on the web.

I responded in kind to a reply in which you quoted me and then brought up information that I didn't think was all that relevant to what I was discussing with someone else. It wasn't your intention to argue with me, but there are more straightforward ways to clear the air than by stinking it up with repeated, weird little jabs.

whatever man, I call it like a see it, sorry if it offended you.

But anyways I'm out, like I said earlier you remind me of another member named Sumac and lets just say my conversations with him in the past never ended well so out of precaution I will just end this here. ;)
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Maedhros on March 07, 2014, 08:21:42 PM
Mr Derision.

Pls, don't address my posts in the future, as you're now on my ignore list. Better for both of us, I can't stand responding to you.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: crisis on March 07, 2014, 08:24:49 PM
flood this post with negatives & see whath appens!!!!!! *shakes fist at screen*
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: derision on March 07, 2014, 08:27:20 PM
Mr Derision.

Pls, don't address my posts in the future, as you're now on my ignore list. Better for both of us, I can't stand responding to you.

Oh crap, there's an ignore list? That's awesome. If my earlier conversation in this thread was your breaking point (lol really), then I'm better off not wasting time responding to you further.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Little Dracula on March 07, 2014, 09:34:13 PM
They announced MONTHS before plans for DLC on this game, when they were asked.

Announcement equal press release, they never released a press release until now.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Neobelmont on March 07, 2014, 09:57:40 PM
Why am I shocked to see this when I knew from past info this as all going to happen?  :P Seriously Victor too please what was happening before his crappy death.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Flame on March 08, 2014, 12:30:50 AM
Anyone else get the feeling from the Screenshots, that Wolf form will basically work just like Dracula's Mist form, and Alucard's specific Void/Chaos replacements will function like Light+Dark magic, but with the Ice/Fire elements?
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Chernabogue on March 08, 2014, 02:21:11 AM
DLC Spoilers:

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Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Maedhros on March 08, 2014, 07:57:32 AM
Announcement equal press release, they never released a press release until now.
Fucking bullshit. They announced their plans for DLC in many interviews, I don't want to look for them though, but I'm sure of it. That's what I wanted to say, companies today announce plans for DLC and shit before the game is released. Of course people will think it is content that could be on the main game. Specially a simple extra mode like this Alucard DLC.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Inccubus on March 08, 2014, 08:13:20 AM
Anyone else get the feeling from the Screenshots, that Wolf form will basically work just like Dracula's Mist form, and Alucard's specific Void/Chaos replacements will function like Light+Dark magic, but with the Ice/Fire elements?

My lack of surprise at this observation is surpassed only by my reaction this morning upon discovering that the sky is still blue.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Maedhros on March 08, 2014, 09:01:56 AM
It'll be just Dracula's power re-skined.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Kale on March 08, 2014, 09:40:14 AM
Definitely, but how does the wolf form being like the mist form make any sense? I guess we gotta wait to find out.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Chernabogue on March 08, 2014, 09:41:42 AM
Definitely, but how does the wolf form being like the mist form make any sense? I guess we gotta wait to find out.
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Please note, I got the information from the rip.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Flame on March 08, 2014, 10:18:06 AM
Definitely, but how does the wolf form being like the mist form make any sense? I guess we gotta wait to find out.
I made the assumption based on the screenshot showing an ethereal wolf projecting from Alucard and going through a grate.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Viskod on March 10, 2014, 05:24:19 AM
I think there's a misconception here.

Just because a company is planning to do DLC for their game and creates it at the same time the game is being made to release later, does not mean it was ever intended to be a part of the original release, should be part of the original release, or that you're somehow owed it as a part of the original release.

People want downloadable content now, especially story based content that adds an extra chapter to the game or expounds on the ending. The anti-dlc crowd is in the minority here, if they were not, it wouldn't be so common.

There is nothing inherently wrong with it either. I always love knowing that a game is going to have some extra content that I can come back to in a months time or so and get a little more out of it instead of just waiting two years for a potential sequel at best.

I just finished Obsidians South Park RPG, and it was exceptional. Probably the best use of a license since the first Batman: Arkham Asylum. It was however, just about 13 hours long. I would love, just absolutely love for there to be some episodic DLC for the game. But there probably won't be, which makes me sad.

Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: EstebanT on March 10, 2014, 09:03:09 AM
I think there's a misconception here.

Just because a company is planning to do DLC for their game and creates it at the same time the game is being made to release later, does not mean it was ever intended to be a part of the original release, should be part of the original release, or that you're somehow owed it as a part of the original release.

People want downloadable content now, especially story based content that adds an extra chapter to the game or expounds on the ending. The anti-dlc crowd is in the minority here, if they were not, it wouldn't be so common.

There is nothing inherently wrong with it either. I always love knowing that a game is going to have some extra content that I can come back to in a months time or so and get a little more out of it instead of just waiting two years for a potential sequel at best.

I just finished Obsidians South Park RPG, and it was exceptional. Probably the best use of a license since the first Batman: Arkham Asylum. It was however, just about 13 hours long. I would love, just absolutely love for there to be some episodic DLC for the game. But there probably won't be, which makes me sad.

You have a point. But in my opinion... Any time spent making alucard dlc should have been spent making more time for victor, a big fight against satan, a bigger area for the toymaker, a better zobek fight, improving stealth sections, making secret bosses, making more varied enemies, the list goes on. I have no problem with dlc. I have a problem with half assed games selling you the rest of the game after you already paid good money.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Viskod on March 10, 2014, 09:29:17 AM
Well that's not what is happening here so you should not have a problem. You basically want a different version of Lords of Shadow 2 completely, which would not have happened no matter how much time they had considering the testimony that we got from an employee of Mercury Steam.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Munchy on March 10, 2014, 09:10:52 PM
It is exceedingly shameless how quickly DLC was announced.

Buuut I guess it just saves me some money waiting for the inevitable Ultimate Edition, so it's *ultimately* a good thing.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on March 11, 2014, 01:28:41 AM
Good. Now that the DLC announcement is over, I can now wait for the announcement of the next developer.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Viskod on March 11, 2014, 05:00:38 AM
How is it shameless? Its just good business. Like I said, people by and large appreciate story based DLC for games so working on some while you're making the game is just the efficient thing to do, and announcing it for 1 month after the game is a fair amount of time.

I'll agree its about as early as you'd want to get. One month I believe is fair, but if they were going to release it just two weeks or three weeks out instead of four I think that would be pushing it. But for a game like this, that is not too long and does not contain an ample amount of replay value it's fine.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Flame on March 11, 2014, 08:11:41 AM
Good business doesn't make it any less shameless. you know what used to be a thing? unlockable content. remember that? pepperridge farm remembers. Expansion packs too. this dlc would, 10 years ago, have been either unlockable content,  or its own game. if on pc, an expansion pack. but those had more content. they bordered on new games themselves.

now they plan dlc in advance, and announce it just as soon.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: beingthehero on March 11, 2014, 08:15:34 AM
Or in the case of present day expansion packs, like the new Diablo III expansion, they will charge the same as the full price game. Hgnnghgh.

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but those had more content. they bordered on new games themselves.

I remember the Frozen Throne expansion pack to Warcraft III, and the Breakthrough expansion for Medal of Honor: Allied Assault being as big as the original games themselves. Those were the days. ;_;
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Maedhros on March 11, 2014, 10:22:59 AM
There'll always be a defense force for everything on the internet.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Viskod on March 11, 2014, 10:42:10 AM
Like the misconception that you were somehow "owed" this DLC as part of the original release.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: EstebanT on March 11, 2014, 12:25:17 PM
We weren't "owed" alucard dlc as part of the release. We were owed time spent making a complete game, the game wasn't complete. Instead of dlc they could've given the game a proper ending, etc.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Flame on March 11, 2014, 12:41:26 PM
Like the misconception that you were somehow "owed" this DLC as part of the original release.
How much do you get paid by Mercurysteam? Seriously, I hope it's good work
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: kadosho on March 11, 2014, 01:14:19 PM
Given how much coverage LOS2 has received in print and digital form. It begs to wonder how much content was let go, and what was accepted. After reading the article about the dev teams issues. I honestly feel thankful that LOS2 was released in the first place. Just wishing that the dev team (if they're with us here on the forums) thank you for all your hard work.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: e105beta on March 11, 2014, 01:14:49 PM
To play devil's advocate, we aren't owed jack shit. Upon purchasing the game, we're "owed" everything in the final release that we agreed to buy for $60. As there is no contract saying "I will pay $60 for these following scenes and features..." we get what they choose to put in the game. That's the implicit contract upon purchase. Sure, we expect developers to deliver the "full product", as nebulous a term as that is, and it's shitty when they don't, but there is no "owe".

Additionally, there are multiple reasons for companies to release DLC shortly after release. One reason is attention. If they let DLC go too long, then they lose potential sales because people see the DLC announced, they may go, "nah, I'm not going back to that game, I'm done". Another reason is the trade-in culture. Nowadays, a lot of people trade in single-player games when they're done, so for a developer to maximizes DLC sales, again, they need to do it quick. A last reason is the staggering of content completion and actual release dates. While LoS2 was recently released, according to Bergeron it went gold months ago. In fact, most games go gold significantly before release, so a bulk of the content in the DLC could very easily been worked on during that period between the original game going gold and the release date. That's why it is able to be released so soon after and yet not particularly feasible to be put into the game.

However, that being said, I miss unlockables and meaty expansion packs too. When Cox was giving his lines about optional bosses, I was definitely not thinking of a re-used challenge fight of an earlier boss. I suspect that either neither did he and it got cut, or he was just outright lying. I'm not sure what to think about his lies anymore.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Intersection on March 11, 2014, 02:02:24 PM
Additionally, there are multiple reasons for companies to release DLC shortly after release. One reason is attention. If they let DLC go too long, then they lose potential sales because people see the DLC announced, they may go, "nah, I'm not going back to that game, I'm done". Another reason is the trade-in culture. Nowadays, a lot of people trade in single-player games when they're done, so for a developer to maximizes DLC sales, again, they need to do it quick. A last reason is the staggering of content completion and actual release dates. While LoS2 was recently released, according to Bergeron it went gold months ago. In fact, most games go gold significantly before release, so a bulk of the content in the DLC could very easily been worked on during that period between the original game going gold and the release date. That's why it is able to be released so soon after and yet not particularly feasible to be put into the game.
That's all true, but there's a far simpler rationale behind all of this: people are far more likely to pay $60 + $15 than $75. It's the entire concept behind modern DLC's.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: e105beta on March 11, 2014, 02:48:35 PM
That's all true, but there's a far simpler rationale behind all of this: people are far more likely to pay $60 + $15 than $75. It's the entire concept behind modern DLC's.

True, but I don't think that augments any points that DLC released before *insert arbitrary date here* should have been released with the main game. It's not a scam, it's pricing.

At some point, a developer has to say "This product is worth $60" and then toss it to the market to see what it thinks. At that point, they're well within their rights to release any DLC after that. If the DLC sells well, then they made the right choice. If it doesn't, then they made the wrong one. It's entirely up to the consumer to decide what is a legitimate DLC release and what is a cheap cash in.

Because when it all boils down to it, the line between "complete game" and "extra content" is entirely arbitrary.

So if there's anyone here who genuinely thinks the Alucard DLC is scam and should have been released with the main game, I have one thing to say to you:

Vote with your wallet.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: KaZudra on March 11, 2014, 03:49:40 PM
Revelations DLC will add 10 achievements, 3 are hidden for story.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: derision on March 11, 2014, 04:24:59 PM
How much do you get paid by Mercurysteam? Seriously, I hope it's good work

Uh oh, am I on 4chan? If you're going to resort to a response like this it's probably time to just stop posting.

I'm feeling some major deja-vu here since Viskod seems to share many of my thoughts on this matter, which are again just being dismissed and downvoted (by the same people) who simply refuse to listen. He's also presented them in a reasonable and well-articulated way, which might be more than this forum deserves given reactions like yours.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: EstebanT on March 11, 2014, 04:27:22 PM
Because when it all boils down to it, the line between "complete game" and "extra content" is entirely arbitrary.
Out of curiosity.... What did you think about victors 15 minutes of glory?
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: derision on March 11, 2014, 04:44:07 PM
This game had an extended and supposedly troubled development cycle. Scapegoating one small piece of dlc for its missteps doesn't seem to make much sense here.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: e105beta on March 11, 2014, 04:55:10 PM
Out of curiosity.... What did you think about victors 15 minutes of glory?

I think it was awful writing and a terrible waste of an awesome character. For me, it was probably the worst moment of the game.

I also don't think delaying the game 3 more months or devoting the Alucard DLC developers to the main game would have changed that.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Ahasverus on March 11, 2014, 07:08:50 PM
The games has a problem far bigger than lack of resources: Lack of vision. You can feel the budget, but you can see it ill-used. This DLC didn't drain resources from the main game, but chances are it will share its problems. Fun Fact: If it's indeed 5 hours it's going to be longer than every 2D entry at speedrun.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Trevorcard on March 11, 2014, 07:11:50 PM
I think this time I am going to wait to see what people think about DLC before forking it over. I liked the game but I was still pretty disappointed. Also I feel story of DLC doesn't motivate me to get it.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: EstebanT on March 11, 2014, 07:21:22 PM
I think it was awful writing and a terrible waste of an awesome character. For me, it was probably the worst moment of the game.

I also don't think delaying the game 3 more months or devoting the Alucard DLC developers to the main game would have changed that.
Maybe not, but we do agree LoS2 was incomplete, right?
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: KaZudra on March 11, 2014, 07:24:15 PM
Maybe not, but we do agree LoS2 was incomplete, right?

Not as much of a incomplete wreck as Bioshock infinite, but yeah, it's obvious alot of content was cut from LoS2
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Trevorcard on March 11, 2014, 07:26:23 PM
I don't think Lords of Shadow 2 was incomplete. I think problem was direction they took was wrong direction. This was a game that could been much better if it cut down on modern day sections i.e the stealth, the uninspired city vistas that included factory. The whole castle sections are gold its like whole different game with exception of Agreus. I would argue that Agreus section could been great if they made it way more intuitive in that you had to use your different abilities rather than just mist form. Make it a real maze instead of a short section in which player can experiment instead of just using simply mist form.   Ahasverus is right they had budget and resources but you could tell that game wasn't shaped well *cough* Alvarez *cough*.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Flame on March 11, 2014, 07:39:20 PM
There is actually that invisible set of shimmy points in the city of the damned that were obviously cut content.

I love things like that in games, by the way. its something really missing from modern games. That kind of sense of wonder as you explore unused areas and unfinished bits.

I loved finding the unused sections of Sonic Unleashed.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: derision on March 11, 2014, 07:40:25 PM
Maybe not, but we do agree LoS2 was incomplete, right?

Every game is "incomplete" with stuff being left on the cutting room floor.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Maedhros on March 11, 2014, 07:42:05 PM
The games has a problem far bigger than lack of resources: Lack of vision. You can feel the budget, but you can see it ill-used. This DLC didn't drain resources from the main game, but chances are it will share its problems. Fun Fact: If it's indeed 5 hours it's going to be longer than every 2D entry at speedrun.

¬¬

You know this is a completely useless comparison right, unless you were comparing the two of them being played on these terms right?
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Ahasverus on March 11, 2014, 07:44:51 PM
¬¬

You know this is a completely useless comparison right, unless you were comparing the two of them being played on these terms right?
Eh you know they will make it so it can't be speedran. Blocked doors etc. At the least it will be longer than all ClassicVanias won't it?
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: KaZudra on March 11, 2014, 07:47:03 PM
7 out of 10 achievements revealed, the other 3 are most likely story related

Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: e105beta on March 11, 2014, 07:54:23 PM
Maybe not, but we do agree LoS2 was incomplete, right?

Yes, but that incompleteness comes from a lack of direction, not from an Alucard DLC.

The last achievement hints towards returning MoF characters...

It's the hunchbacks. I guarantee it.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Munchy on March 11, 2014, 10:09:51 PM
The games has a problem far bigger than lack of resources: Lack of vision. You can feel the budget, but you can see it ill-used. This DLC didn't drain resources from the main game, but chances are it will share its problems. Fun Fact: If it's indeed 5 hours it's going to be longer than every 2D entry at speedrun.

Long does not equal good.

But from what I've heard of the game, your assessment seems accurate. The game looks like it has a severe case of ADHD; all of these random ideas and plot points were thought of, and it seems like they bit off more than they could chew trying to cram all of it into the game.

And DLC is a bit of a grey area, because unless we're talking about a developer with some amazing corporate transparency, consumers just aren't going to know what had to be cut due to lack of resources/time or what was just planned out for DLC and squirreled away.

I don't care much one way or the other, because in the end I pretty much always ignore DLC anyway. Most cases of DLC, however, give me the impression that a developer thinks their game is worth more than the initial $60 and doesn't want to come out and say so, instead putting more content behind a pay wall and marking it as an "extra".

It's impossible to deny that this looks suspicious when a game like LoS2 is rushed out the door, seemingly incomplete, and then suddenly the DLC is announced.

All this speculation likely comes off as masked caterwauling, especially when someone could just as easily wait for the game's price to drop a third or two. But this sort of "business first" approach to games really, REALLY makes it suck for day-1ers who really look forward to a new release.

EDIT: I just remembered that I kind of conflated "developer" and "publisher". I wouldn't be surprised if the final decision for putting out DLC came from Konami themselves and not MercurySteam.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Dremn on March 19, 2014, 11:52:01 AM
Hey, we finally have a trailer.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/alucard-rises-in-castlevania-lords-of-shadow-2-revelations-dlc/1100-6418388/ (http://www.gamespot.com/articles/alucard-rises-in-castlevania-lords-of-shadow-2-revelations-dlc/1100-6418388/)
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: e105beta on March 19, 2014, 11:55:00 AM
Hey, we finally have a trailer.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/alucard-rises-in-castlevania-lords-of-shadow-2-revelations-dlc/1100-6418388/ (http://www.gamespot.com/articles/alucard-rises-in-castlevania-lords-of-shadow-2-revelations-dlc/1100-6418388/)

Dual wielding FTW.

Also, why is Alucard hiding Dracula's shit? Just leave it on his coffin-side table

EDIT: WOO, STEALTH IS GONE!

So if this has been in development since LoS2's development, do you think they were removed or if their inclusion in LoS2 was just some bizarre shite?
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Viskod on March 19, 2014, 12:03:10 PM
There's very little about Lords of Shadow 2s development that isn't bizarre. But I'm glad that he uses 3 different swords and feels unique compared to Dracula.

So seeing him leave the void sword and the chaos power at the places Dracula finds them in the main game, I guess this confirms that the castle is a place that exists totally outside of time and space in this continuity. Unless Alucard is doing that while standing next to his fathers coffin and somehow traveling inside his mind.

Either way, I wonder if Alucard leaves a piece of himself in the castle as well and that is the young Trevor that we encounter.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: e105beta on March 19, 2014, 12:08:08 PM
There's very little about Lords of Shadow 2s development that isn't bizarre. But I'm glad that he uses 3 different swords and feels unique compared to Dracula.

So seeing him leave the void sword and the chaos power at the places Dracula finds them in the main game, I guess this confirms that the castle is a place that exists totally outside of time and space in this continuity. Unless Alucard is doing that while standing next to his fathers coffin and somehow traveling inside his mind.

Either way, I wonder if Alucard leaves a piece of himself in the castle as well and that is the young Trevor that we encounter.

I figure the castle is some sort of pocket dimension that Dracula can summon at full strength if he so chooses. It explains how the castle comes back after crumbling in Mirror of Fate.

Either way, that's good, because it means that the DLC will be primarily in the castle. Honestly, if the DLC is too good, it's going to indirectly be the biggest bummer of this whole game, in that it'll be what this game SHOULD have been.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Viskod on March 19, 2014, 12:16:42 PM
Wouldn't that just be a thing.

Lords of Shadow 1, terrific game but horrible DLC

Lords of Shadow 2, disappointing game but great DLC!
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Dremn on March 19, 2014, 12:20:17 PM
Still not expecting anything special, just the chance to play as Alucard without the Alvarez baggage holding down the game.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: e105beta on March 19, 2014, 12:30:31 PM
Still not expecting anything special, just the chance to play as Alucard without the Alvarez baggage holding down the game.

See, for me, that is the formula to an amazing game
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Asgardwolf on March 19, 2014, 12:31:21 PM
How much would we have to pay for this?
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Dremn on March 19, 2014, 12:36:20 PM
See, for me, that is the formula to an amazing game
But "AAA gaming experiences" demands everything but that!
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Viskod on March 19, 2014, 12:37:20 PM
I'm going to guess $9.99

I could see $14.99, but to me that kind of price has to be backed up by something that's at the very least 5 hours long.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: e105beta on March 19, 2014, 12:45:20 PM
But "AAA gaming experiences" demands everything but that!

They're already taking out the stealth, so that's a plus!

While it would take a moved mountain to fix the atrocity that Alvarez inflicted upon the main story-line, honestly, if this DLC boils down to being LoS2 starring Alucard in the castle with no stealth and minimal city time I will be a very happy camper.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Viskod on March 19, 2014, 12:49:12 PM
Ugh, did you see Draculas gnarled hands poking up out of his coffin at the start of the trailer? That is just so creepy awesome.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Intersection on March 19, 2014, 12:58:35 PM
No stealth. No stealth. Such beauty in these two words. I think I'll frame them and hang them on top of my bed. It'll soothe me while I sleep.

To be honest, this will probably be the first time I buy a DLC package for what it doesn't contain.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Trevelyan on March 19, 2014, 01:04:23 PM
That article with the trailer also has a firm no from Cox to anymore 2 DLC, or the game being ported to next-gen at all.

The latter seems like an odd choice, would have thought they'd at least outsource it like having Climax do the PC version for 1.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: e105beta on March 19, 2014, 01:14:35 PM
That article with the trailer also has a firm no from Cox to anymore 2 DLC, or the game being ported to next-gen at all.

The latter seems like an odd choice, would have thought they'd at least outsource it like having Climax do the PC version for 1.

The former just means MS is done with DLC. I wouldn't be surprised if Konami gets someone else to do more DLC.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Kingshango on March 19, 2014, 01:30:42 PM
Nice trailer. The news about no stealth means that it's already a bit better than the main game. ;D

But the question remains, will it be longer than Ground Zeroes tho? (https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thecoli.com%2Fstyles%2Fdefault%2Fxenforo%2Fsmilies%2F5I5s8.png&hash=14915c3ef42f78ad98908d8c93953e5d)
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Viskod on March 19, 2014, 02:48:06 PM
Since Ground Zeros can be done in 10 minutes I would hope to god so.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Dremn on March 19, 2014, 02:52:14 PM
Since Ground Zeros can be done in 10 minutes I would hope to god so.
That's only the main mission, and if you skip cutscenes. There's still a couple hours of extra shit to do but honestly I don't understand why they bothered to release it in the first place.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Viskod on March 19, 2014, 02:55:36 PM
It's little more than a glorified Demo. If the actual game was coming later this year it wouldn't be so bad, but it's possible it won't be out until 2016.

That's just mean.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: derision on March 19, 2014, 06:02:43 PM
From the trailer it seems like you confront the lieutenant in a church. I hope it's actually the one Dracula was stored in, since I kind of hated getting arbitrarily locked out of it in the beginning of the game. You never even go back aside from a tiny hallway in the basement.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Anglachel on March 19, 2014, 06:04:23 PM
Yeah, I really hope that you can explore back into the chapel, which was probably the only cool part of the city.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Anglachel on March 19, 2014, 07:09:03 PM
And from the looks of it I guess we won't be getting Slogra battle.  :( I thought that would be a cool way to tie in the corpse's appearance with Lords of Shadow 2.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Flame on March 19, 2014, 07:14:19 PM
From the trailer it seems like you confront the lieutenant in a church. I hope it's actually the one Dracula was stored in, since I kind of hated getting arbitrarily locked out of it in the beginning of the game. You never even go back aside from a tiny hallway in the basement.
Actually, it seems like the church where you fight Death.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: crisis on March 19, 2014, 07:30:03 PM
it would be phat if we learn what Alucard did with his "Dark Pain" weapon
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: derision on March 19, 2014, 07:34:52 PM
Actually, it seems like the church where you fight Death.

It's not. I booted up the game again to be sure and the places are completely different.

Plus, that place where you fought Zobek was the Church of Satan, which had been sealed weeks before the events of the game and would probably be the last place you'll see the likeness of a crucified Jesus (which also appears in the Belmont chapel and could be seen in the LoS1 epilogue).
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Viskod on March 19, 2014, 08:55:04 PM
We might still get to see Slogra. Maybe Alucard leaves him there to guard Gabriel and the actual bodyguard shows up and defeats him and then he fights Alucard in a previously unseen part of that sanctuary throne room.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Ahasverus on March 19, 2014, 09:16:11 PM
It's not. I booted up the game again to be sure and the places are completely different.
That church of Satan was actually a christian Church in disguise.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: derision on March 19, 2014, 09:25:08 PM
Maybe on the outside, but it wasn't exactly subtle with its imagery on the inside.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on March 19, 2014, 10:16:22 PM
Nice trailer. I just hope this dlc fleshes out the story better than the main game.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Somacula on March 19, 2014, 11:52:58 PM
I'm a bit disappointed at how Alucard's design was slightly altered for the DLC. Being a fan of his LoS redesign, it really irked me how his front belts were removed along with the Crissaegrim's holster. I never saw a practical use for that wolf armor thing dangling on Al's right hip, other than to hold the Dark Pain, but the old design made it look as if the belts held it together. Now it's hanging by itself and that last bit of utility just went out the window.

Anyway, this looks pretty interesting but with that GameSpot announcement I guess we won't be getting a final Super Boss in the same vein as The Forgotten One in LoS1. I was hoping for a Boss Rush patch too, or at the very least a way to select chapters.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Anglachel on March 20, 2014, 07:22:22 AM
We might still get to see Slogra. Maybe Alucard leaves him there to guard Gabriel and the actual bodyguard shows up and defeats him and then he fights Alucard in a previously unseen part of that sanctuary throne room.

I was actually theorizing that perhaps Slogra would become possessed by the castle's blood and then goes to fight Alucard.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: theplottwist on March 20, 2014, 10:40:28 AM
Does anyone wish that Galamoth was this DLC's boss (even though it probably won't have a boss)?
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: e105beta on March 20, 2014, 11:14:27 AM
Does anyone wish that Galamoth was this DLC's boss (even though it probably won't have a boss)?

I'm just hoping we get a Climax DLC that actually ends the series.

Hopefully with Cox being off the series, we can move past his "DO WE NEED TO SPELL IT OUT FOR YOU? GOD DIDN'T WIN, DRACULA DID. DRACULA RULES THE WORLD, BUT WHAT IS ALUCARD GOING TO DO?"
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: DragonSlayr81 on March 20, 2014, 11:50:31 AM
Wouldn't it be funny if you discover that Zobek's lieutenant's real name is Gaibon?
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Somacula on March 20, 2014, 11:57:38 AM
I don't know if we'll get a climax dlc given Dave Cox's "[Satan] is proper dead." and the how MS is apparently done after Revelations is released. I hope so, but I'm not counting on it at this point. *Sigh* At least there's Dark Souls 2 to quench the thirst for a proper challenge.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: EstebanT on March 20, 2014, 12:31:34 PM
I mean... I thought gaibon and slogra did serve death directly in the old cannon.... Right? If Trevor can be alucard.... Gaibon can wield the Muramasa. Lmao
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Flame on March 20, 2014, 12:32:19 PM
Wouldn't it be funny if you discover that Zobek's lieutenant's real name is Gaibon?
I'm totally expecting something like that
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Kingshango on March 20, 2014, 01:44:48 PM
Surprise it hasn't been mentioned yet but the DLC will cost $8.

http://www.relyonhorror.com/latest-news/castlevania-lords-of-shadow-2s-revelations-dlc-gets-an-official-price/ (http://www.relyonhorror.com/latest-news/castlevania-lords-of-shadow-2s-revelations-dlc-gets-an-official-price/)

And since Cox says that it will take up to 5/6 hours to complete, that means the actual length of the DLC is a hour and a half.



Which is still longer than Ground Zeroes.(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thecoli.com%2Fstyles%2Fdefault%2Fxenforo%2Fsmilies%2Ftroll.png&hash=f5be325f748d21174017df72739c5b13)
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Mike Belmont on March 20, 2014, 03:24:48 PM
I'm totally expecting something like that

I mentioned since the beginning of this thread, and I coincide with you, guys... I expect that the name of the guard will be Gaibon or Slogra. And the so mentioned Slogra artwork will stay like that: just an easter egg in form of an artwork :(
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: EstebanT on March 20, 2014, 03:31:18 PM
I expected the demon from the toymaker story to be gaibon.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Dremn on March 20, 2014, 05:36:25 PM
8 dollars sounds like a fair price. How much was Reverie and Resurrection for LoS1?
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Foffy on March 20, 2014, 06:51:44 PM
8 dollars sounds like a fair price. How much was Reverie and Resurrection for LoS1?

$10 each. Overpriced, so they learned.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: EstebanT on March 20, 2014, 07:07:46 PM
$10 each. Overpriced, so they learned.

Liked the LoS series, Still have not bought those expensive ass things.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: EstebanT on March 21, 2014, 09:45:12 AM
I wonder if alucard will be limited to his own areas like Laura in Los. (Obviously bigger area) Or if he will be able to explore the same areas dracula can like the old CV games.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Somacula on March 21, 2014, 09:52:57 AM
It looks like we're getting bigger Alucard-exclusive areas like the Toy Maker/ballroom arena in the screens but still get some overlap between areas Gabe has been to, such as the Void Sword/Chaos Claws areas.

My question is regarding why Alucard's design was slightly altered and he can suddenly summon Crissaegrim out of hammer-space. Also, screenshots like this are really making me start to wonder how much of Dracul's moveset will carry over:

http://cdn3.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/10060981/Shot00012.jpg (http://cdn3.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/10060981/Shot00012.jpg)
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: flyingchai on March 21, 2014, 10:26:04 AM

My question is regarding why Alucard's design was slightly altered and he can suddenly summon Crissaegrim out of hammer-space.

Alucard's sword is an actual physical sword, not a summoned one like Drac's Void Sword.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Somacula on March 21, 2014, 10:33:16 AM
Alucard's sword is an actual physical sword, not a summoned one like Drac's Void Sword.

Yes, and we see that in the cutscene where the entire plan is unveiled--Alucard keeps it in the holster. However, the end of the Revelations trailer shows that apparently Alucard can randomly summon it now. I hope there's at least a lore book entry that makes sense of it. The Masamune's summoning quality at least made sense since the Lieutenant's entry says that it can bypass the physical realm or something like that. Crissaegrim popping out of nowhere however, is a little mind-boggling as it is right now. I just really miss those belts in Al's old design and was hoping to fight with Alucard's holster since the Lieutenant's moveset is vaguely Japanese.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on March 21, 2014, 10:48:23 AM
Yes, and we see that in the cutscene where the entire plan is unveiled--Alucard keeps it in the holster. However, the end of the Revelations trailer shows that apparently Alucard can randomly summon it now. I hope there's at least a lore book entry that makes sense of it. The Masamune's summoning quality at least made sense since the Lieutenant's entry says that it can bypass the physical realm or something like that. Crissaegrim popping out of nowhere however, is a little mind-boggling as it is right now. I just really miss those belts in Al's old design and was hoping to fight with Alucard's holster since the Lieutenant's moveset is vaguely Japanese.

My guess is obviously they wanted to reuse some of the void sword's mechanics here.

To have him keep it in his holster and unsheathed it in battle would have required more effort on their part and I don't think they really where up to it.

So lets just use the summon sword thing from Gabriel/Dracul's maingame!
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Somacula on March 21, 2014, 10:52:06 AM
If they're in the business of reusing assets, then why not just re-use the animation in the first game where Gabriel would put the CC in his belt if left idle enough? I always liked small details like those.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on March 21, 2014, 10:53:45 AM
If they're in the business of reusing assets, then why not just re-use the animation in the first game where Gabriel would put the CC in his belt if left idle enough? I always liked small details like those.

Well I guess putting a small cross on your hip would be much different than putting a long as sword in a sheath.
And also, didn't Lords of Shadow 2 use a different engine than Lords of Shadow 1?
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Somacula on March 21, 2014, 10:58:29 AM
That's true. Perhaps they were also going for a homage for SotN Alucard as well, since that Alucard can also summon his swords from nowhere. Aside from certain artwork from Harmony of Despair, I've never seen a use for classic Alucard's sheath either.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: SSBBfan666 on March 21, 2014, 03:53:16 PM
I guess they are trying to reference SOTN with Alucard's ability to bring out the Crissaegrim through hammer-space, also the Void Sword is a Physical sword, it is basically Dracula's Void power condensed into a long sword that only he can use (though I am curious how Alucard is shown wielding it in the trailer).
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Somacula on March 21, 2014, 04:35:56 PM
I'm curious as well since before the trailer I was under the impression that Glaciem and Igneas were akin to Light/Shadow magic in the first game. I don't know if Alucard will actually physically wield the Void Sword while he uses the Chaos-infused Crissaegrim in a separate slot. I also wonder if Alucard will still keep his Void/Chaos powers after putting back the relics to where they belong, or if his powers are separate from the power-ups he gives back to Dracul.

Anyway, I'm just hoping that Alucard gets to access some of his MoF abilities like the Demonic Wings, Shadow Claws, Wolf Form (which looks to be replaced by Wolf Within unfortunately) and Mist. It's unlikely, but seeing the Wolf Form wielding Crissaegrim while supercharged with Chaos/Shadow Magic would be so cool. I was even hoping Alucard would find his Light/Shadow medallions from MoF, but that would have made his vampiric abilities redundant I suppose.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Flame on March 21, 2014, 06:38:20 PM
Actually, Wolf form is replaced by Igneas.

Consider this: Mist form and Wolf Form in MoF were basically just Light/shadow magic. Mist form regained health, and Wolf form was literally just a power up. You still used the whip, and did all of alucard's other shit. you just hit harder.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Somacula on March 21, 2014, 08:00:41 PM
Actually, Wolf form is replaced by Igneas.

Consider this: Mist form and Wolf Form in MoF were basically just Light/shadow magic. Mist form regained health, and Wolf form was literally just a power up. You still used the whip, and did all of alucard's other shit. you just hit harder.

I should clarify. I know that the function of the Mist/Wolf form was a vampiric twist on Light/Shadow magic. What I meant was that rather than manifesting a Wolf form as a damage boost, we're getting Igneas to perform that function and the quadrupedal animal wolf as a different wolf ability altogether.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: EstebanT on March 22, 2014, 12:10:23 PM
Wonder if we will see Master Librarian...
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Gamermeister on March 23, 2014, 02:38:29 AM
Im really pretty pumped for this DLC. Im replaying the game now and its much better now that Ive come to terms with the ending. The gameplay is superb. Its true that it feels like a proper 3Dizzle SotN.

Alucard with this gameplay and no stealth? Nocturnal emissions.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Dremn on March 24, 2014, 03:16:23 PM
http://www.twitch.tv/KONAMI (http://www.twitch.tv/KONAMI)

Konami is streaming the DLC.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: e105beta on March 24, 2014, 03:49:57 PM
http://www.twitch.tv/KONAMI (http://www.twitch.tv/KONAMI)

Konami is streaming the DLC.

Spectral wolf > Mist
Bat forom > Dracula platforming

Why was this not the main game?
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Ahasverus on March 24, 2014, 03:59:42 PM
This looks so much better than the main game it is ridiculous. It's almost as if Alvarez was busy ruining the campaign and this team was working with common sense at hand
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Kingshango on March 24, 2014, 04:05:49 PM
Alucard has better powers than Dracula, his wolf form would have been extra useful for Agreus.

Also, his helm splitter looks like a elbow drop.

This looks so much better than the main game it is ridiculous. It's almost as if Alvarez was busy ruining the campaign and this team was working with common sense at hand


Yeah no doubt this DLC was definitely outsourced.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Ahasverus on March 24, 2014, 04:10:38 PM
Yeah no doubt this DLC was definitely outsourced.
If so, I think we have a winner.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Zetheraxza on March 24, 2014, 04:15:22 PM
Is this open world as well? Or is it linear or only limited to certain places.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Mike Belmont on March 24, 2014, 04:26:25 PM
That wolf form reminds me a lot the Soul Splitter ability from Death in Darksiders II.

This DLC looks good :P
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: EstebanT on March 24, 2014, 05:06:18 PM
Umm... What enemy was encased in ice?
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: crisis on March 24, 2014, 05:14:41 PM
instead of "revelations," it should be titled "what could have been"
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: e105beta on March 24, 2014, 05:22:15 PM
If so, I think we have a winner.

I really hope it was outsourced.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Maedhros on March 24, 2014, 06:25:20 PM
Fuck, lost the stream.

Was it really good? Was the platform really better (as in not automatic chandeliers or the usual grip on the walls)?
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Kingshango on March 24, 2014, 06:43:47 PM
Fuck, lost the stream.

Was it really good? Was the platform really better (as in not automatic chandeliers or the usual grip on the walls)?

Put it this way, if the platforming bothered you alot in the main game, don't bother with the DLC.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Maedhros on March 24, 2014, 07:47:55 PM
There was ONE interesting platforming section in LoS2. The chains section. For this type of "platforming", it was actually pretty good.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Reinhart77 on March 25, 2014, 02:50:41 AM
any chances you could play this before beating the game.  if the sword plays similar to Dracula's, i'd like to get some practise in with it with out my void energy depleting.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Flame on March 25, 2014, 08:18:32 AM
Just play the prologue.  It gives you infinite chaos and void
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Viskod on March 25, 2014, 08:27:15 AM
But it doesn't give you a move list or access to any of the other skils so it's really not comparable beyond the basic Melee combo.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: KaZudra on March 25, 2014, 09:05:26 AM
Just play the prologue.  It gives you infinite chaos and void

The Fight with Death can last forever if you don't kill the creatures in the Pillar, I did this to grind masteries
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Somacula on March 25, 2014, 11:52:46 AM
If you want to grind masteries, you could also try Infection Seal 2 from the Kleidos challenges. I maxed out everything within a couple of turns. The best part is that masteries carry over even if you lose the challenge.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on March 25, 2014, 01:08:20 PM
am I the only one that can't find this on Xbox Live?

I'm looking for it now but can't find it even though everyone else is saying it was released on all platforms today.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Kingshango on March 25, 2014, 01:12:35 PM
am I the only one that can't find this on Xbox Live?

I'm looking for it now but can't find it even though everyone else is saying it was released on all platforms today.

XBL updates on Wednesdays so it's not up on the marketplace. It is out on Steam and PSN though.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on March 25, 2014, 01:15:10 PM
XBL updates on Wednesdays so it's not up on the marketplace. It is out on Steam and PSN though.

Well that sucks.

And I'm also having trouble with the Dark Dracula skin, anyone else?

I've downloaded it as well as the armored suit but for some reason it will not let me select the Dark Dracula.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Gecko on March 25, 2014, 01:20:05 PM
Dark Dracula skin is not under "Additional Content". It is under "Configuration -> Game Options". You can actually use it along with either the regular Dracula, or Armored Dracula outfits.

Yeah, I'm bummed about the DLC not coming until tomorrow for Xbox 360 though. I'm replaying the game anyway for now.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on March 25, 2014, 01:21:35 PM
ok thanks alot Gecko.

I thought it was weird that it was only 100kb in size, but your explanation explains it if its just a recolor.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Andybiotics on March 25, 2014, 01:39:30 PM
am I the only one that can't find this on Xbox Live?

I'm looking for it now but can't find it even though everyone else is saying it was released on all platforms today.

Thanks for asking this, I was looking for it on Xbox this morning but couldn't find it.
Pleased it hear it could be on tomorrow though  :)
Excited for this one.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Chernabogue on March 25, 2014, 02:13:22 PM
Gonna buy the DLC tomorrow, and maybe preorder MoF:HD.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: derision on March 25, 2014, 02:28:50 PM
XBL updates on Wednesdays so it's not up on the marketplace.

Does it, though? The skins were put up for download earlier this morning, just not Revelations. 
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Belmontslayer on March 25, 2014, 02:40:17 PM
XBL actually updates every day during the week. And I've bought dozens of DLCs on XBL and they have almost always been released on Tuesday.

Like the above poster said, we got the preorder bonuses today, but no Revelations DLC, which is really strange. There must have been some kind of issue, but I can't get an answer from anyone.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: crisis on March 25, 2014, 02:52:21 PM
no revelations dlc for xbox today? THANKS A LOT OBAMA
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Somacula on March 25, 2014, 03:17:06 PM
I'm still a few hours away from playing this as I still have work, but can anyone who's played the DLC tell me one thing? I want to know if Alucard gets his Demonic Wings back for a double jump ability. Any other returning powers from MoF would also be nice to know about.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Trevelyan on March 25, 2014, 05:24:42 PM
Initial impression: playing as Alucard owns. 

One odd downside: either the game update or the dlc seems to have removed the 'hourglass with blood in it' loading icon.  Why would they do that? :(
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on March 25, 2014, 06:11:51 PM
Initial impression: playing as Alucard owns. 

One odd downside: either the game update or the dlc seems to have removed the 'hourglass with blood in it' loading icon.  Why would they do that? :(

Maybe that hourglass is just for Dracula. Or they just forgot to include that code.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: KaZudra on March 25, 2014, 06:23:52 PM
I'm super broke right now, I probably wont get revelations or MoFHD until a week or 2 later :(
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Ahasverus on March 25, 2014, 06:51:07 PM
Any impressions?
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Mike Belmont on March 25, 2014, 07:08:00 PM
Well, after seen the whole walkthrough in youtube (again), in terms of story, I have to say that
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Sure, there is more scrolls to read, but maybe there is more story than in the ingame.

Surely this DLC
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Two touching moments:
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Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Ahasverus on March 25, 2014, 07:31:21 PM
OK I'm watching it, it's so good it hurts.
Man, this is the game we deserved :(

Edit2: OMG YOU CAN ENTER THE THRONE ROOM FUCK ME
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Kingshango on March 25, 2014, 09:09:06 PM
Huh, so that's what those weird door looking structures were for. (https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thecoli.com%2Fstyles%2Fdefault%2Fxenforo%2Fsmilies%2Fohhh.png&hash=ae408981a5bde06c27d33c1612424533)
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Asgardwolf on March 25, 2014, 09:27:03 PM
Alucard`s abilities are really awesome, but the game feels linear with no so much freedom for backtracking. Story is ok i guess but not even new bosses... Alucard`s 1 weapon combat system doesn`t feel as good as Gabriel with all his weapons. It`s ok for 8 bucks i guess...
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Kingshango on March 25, 2014, 09:34:51 PM
The Forbidden Wing is a very creepy place.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Viskod on March 25, 2014, 09:37:55 PM
I'm not seeing what is supposed to give the impression that this was outsourced.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: e105beta on March 25, 2014, 10:11:14 PM
I'm not seeing what is supposed to give the impression that this was outsourced.

Because it's so much better than the main game.

I mean, it's NOT outsourced, but having just finished the DLC, I can definitely say that if LoS2 had been this level of quality, it would have been a way better game. Its environment puzzles were more creative and more engaging than Dracula's stealth bs, it had some ACTUAL platforming sections if only a few, all of Alucard's powers made you feel like a powerful vampire (as opposed to just mist), shimmying was almost entirely replaced by bat cloud (nothing of value was lost), and it had the advantage of being entirely in the castle. But even then, it's castle parts were better than Dracula's castle parts.

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But the most insulting thing about it was

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Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Kingshango on March 25, 2014, 10:19:52 PM
But the most insulting thing about it was

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This point made it more apparent to me that the ending was indeed changed and that this DLC was made with the original ending in mind. Fucking Konami.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Ahasverus on March 25, 2014, 10:34:57 PM
Just split MercurySteam in the A team of LoS2 and the B team of this DLC... then make the B team the A team in a new company and make them the new Castlevania guys. These guys get it.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Maedhros on March 25, 2014, 10:35:45 PM
I didn't want a redemption. Why would I want this?
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on March 25, 2014, 10:41:20 PM
I already foolishly gave Konami $60.  No way in hell am I giving them any more money.
I'll just watch it on Youtube.  I'm tired of this game.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: e105beta on March 25, 2014, 10:41:44 PM
I didn't want a redemption. Why would I want this?

You probably don't. Don't waste your time and money and move on.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Ahasverus on March 25, 2014, 10:42:11 PM
That forbidden wing was nuts.
I already foolishly gave Konami $60.  No way in hell am I giving them any more money.
I'll just watch it on Youtube.  I'm tired of this game.
Eh it's $8, there's nothing to lose.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on March 25, 2014, 10:45:12 PM
Not one goddamned dime will go to any LoS crap from me.
They'd have to pay ME to play their shitty game.

**is raging 'cuz the game is bullshit**
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: EstebanT on March 25, 2014, 10:47:18 PM
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Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on March 25, 2014, 10:49:53 PM
Where's my redemption story, Konami? WHERE IS IT?

Redemption, you say? Konami might make a sequel to milk this sequel, but I think fans wouldn't give a damn.

I already foolishly gave Konami $60.  No way in hell am I giving them any more money.
I'll just watch it on Youtube.  I'm tired of this game.
And a waste of hard disk space I believe.
I'd rather watch it on youtube too.

Not one goddamned dime will go to any LoS crap from me.
They'd have to pay ME to play their shitty game.

**is raging 'cuz the game is bullshit**

There, there, Jorge... calm down. Raging won't do any good.  :)
We all know LoS2 is crap.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: e105beta on March 25, 2014, 10:53:42 PM
(click to show/hide)

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Redemption, you say? Konami might make a sequel to milk this sequel, but I think fans wouldn't give a damn.

They had me hooked and then they kicked me in the nuts. Just let it die in twisted peace.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: EstebanT on March 25, 2014, 10:58:04 PM
Blue Light magic recovers health. Red Shadow magic deals heavy damage.
Blue Sypha protects from damage. Red Spirit of Schneider deals extra damage.
Blue mist form gives health. Wolf form extra damage.
Blue void sword gives health. Red Chaos extra damage.
Blue Glaciem gives health. Red Igneas deals damage.

IM FUCKING SICK OF IT.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on March 25, 2014, 11:00:09 PM
just let it die in twisted peace.

purify it first, cause it stinks up the place.

Blue Light magic recovers health. Red Shadow magic deals heavy damage.
Blue Sypha protects from damage. Red Spirit of Schneider deals extra damage.
Blue mist form gives health. Wolf form extra damage.
Blue void sword gives health. Red Chaos extra damage.
Blue Glaciem gives health. Red Igneas deals damage.

IM FUCKING SICK OF IT.
Lazy developer shit.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: DragonSlayr81 on March 25, 2014, 11:00:59 PM
Watched the entire thing on YouTube. Love the look of the Toy Maker's area, but damn, the majority of it was just a bore. Would've it hurt for some new enemies(wouldn't it have been cool if those dancing puppets actually, well, DANCED like the dancing ghosts in the original series?) and bosses. Still don't like the title boss names, like the Lieutenant. If he had any significance, he'd have an actual name.

Also, one thing I can't help but disliking about the LoS series is, the locations are so beautiful, yet so empty. And the majority of enemies are focused in arena room battles. While I might not agree with Rugal regarding Dark Souls being the REAL CV successor, the future 3D CVs could sure take a lesson from it regarding enemy placement.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Ahasverus on March 25, 2014, 11:03:59 PM
LoS2 isn't crap damn it. After the hype died out and the dissapointment passed by I found it (yesterday) a solid entry. Not LOS1 levels of awesome, but solid. I'll put it on par with Portrait of Ruin. This DLC reddeemed it though.

Quote
Also, one thing I can't help but disliking about the LoS series is, the locations are so beautiful, yet so empty. And the majority of enemies are focused in arena room battles. While I might not agree with Rugal regarding Dark Souls being the REAL CV successor, the future 3D CVs could sure take a lesson from it regarding enemy placement.
I can agree with this.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Flame on March 25, 2014, 11:04:30 PM
They actually made a reference to

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I'm actually mildly amused by it.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Ahasverus on March 25, 2014, 11:05:22 PM
They actually made a reference to

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I'm actually mildly amused by it.
Huehuehuehuehuehue
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: EstebanT on March 25, 2014, 11:08:41 PM
Alucard dlc was the last straw for me... I know... I know it too late now... Make fun of me for defending the series in the past... I just have one question... Have I been playing as the exact same character for four years? I mean, What was the real difference between Simon, Trevor, Mof Alucard, Dracula, And DLC Alucard? Looking back they all feel so similar with the exception of a few subweapons or others.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Kingshango on March 25, 2014, 11:17:46 PM
Well at least it's all over, the LOS saga can finally be put to rest and Castlevania can finally go back to being (relatively) normal.





Then Konami turns it's head to you and announces Lords of Shadow 3 developed by Sparks Unlimited!

Thriller End Laugh (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iHkqgKMBDc#)
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: e105beta on March 25, 2014, 11:32:57 PM
Alucard dlc was the last straw for me... I know... I know it too late now... Make fun of me for defending the series in the past... I just have one question... Have I been playing as the exact same character for four years? I mean, What was the real difference between Simon, Trevor, Mof Alucard, Dracula, And DLC Alucard? Looking back they all feel so similar with the exception of a few subweapons or others.

To be completely fair, aside from the whip moves, Gabriel doesn't play like Dracula, and Simon, Alucard, and Trevor all played the same in MoF because the game basically cycled through characters for story purposes only. In turn, they didn't really play like their 3D counterparts other than the fact that the combat system was similar. But with that logic, all the old-school Belmonts played almost exactly the same as well.

purify it first, cause it stinks up the place.

I've smelt and dealt with far, far worse.

And for all it's story flaws, I still enjoyed it more than any of Castlevania's pre-LoS 3D outings.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Dremn on March 26, 2014, 12:03:13 AM
Blue Light magic recovers health. Red Shadow magic deals heavy damage.
Blue Sypha protects from damage. Red Spirit of Schneider deals extra damage.
Blue mist form gives health. Wolf form extra damage.
Blue void sword gives health. Red Chaos extra damage.
Blue Glaciem gives health. Red Igneas deals damage.

IM FUCKING SICK OF IT.
The LoS series in a nutshell.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Flame on March 26, 2014, 12:23:42 AM
So by looking at the artwork, you can tell that pretty much all of Alucard's campaign, is

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Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Somacula on March 26, 2014, 05:28:12 AM
Why couldn't this have been the main campaign?! I loved the abilities, the combat, and the locales (Forbidden Wing especially). This could have been an entire game by itself. I could actually picture Alucard using a combination of his Revelations skill set mixed in with his MoF abilities, which could easily have just been palette swaps of some of Drac's abilities. This is just such a tease for what could have been and it is so unbelievably tortuous. Ugh...
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Viskod on March 26, 2014, 06:03:04 AM
The LoS series in a nutshell.

Now list all of the other Castlevania games where the subweapons all behave in the same way and complain about how that is lazy developer shit.

Also, reused sprites. God, so lazy right?

The combat in the DLC is fun, but its the exact same combat you get in the main game, just with less variety.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Ahasverus on March 26, 2014, 07:18:35 AM
Unless Igarashi's game is super succesful I seriously doubt a return to traditional Castlevania. If it continues the LoS /vibes/ at least I hope it gets better and focused.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: crisis on March 26, 2014, 07:19:49 AM
while i dislike the decisions that were made, Alvarez didnt burn your house down, he didnt make any threats towards your family or anything. hate his ideas, dont hate him. cursing him out over a videogame is very immature & says more about you than what anybody says about him (also applies to Cox/IGA haters)
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Ahasverus on March 26, 2014, 07:27:58 AM
Interesting, the director of the DLC was Jose Luis Marquez (director of MoF) not Alvarez.... Yeah.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Gamermeister on March 26, 2014, 09:03:41 AM
Why is this STILL not available on Xbox Live??? :(
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: e105beta on March 26, 2014, 09:08:42 AM
while i dislike the decisions that were made, Alvarez didnt burn your house down, he didnt make any threats towards your family or anything. hate his ideas, dont hate him. cursing him out over a videogame is very immature & says more about you than what anybody says about him (also applies to Cox/IGA haters)

I don't hate the man. I'm sure he's a reasonably nice guy with friends and a family that love him.

I just can't get over his writing, and the ego that keeps him from recognizing any flaws in that writing. He pulls LoS2 into a thematic about-face then justifies it with this "Well, like, duh!" attitude. It smacks of Mass Effect 3, where the lead writers all left after Casey Hudson pulled the plug on their story after it leaked.

In Lords of Shadow, the story was supposedly thought up by Alvarez and his lead game designer, but Alvarez was only one of three writers, the other three not even being MercurySteam employees. Mirror of Fate, which I would argue is the best written Lords of Shadow game at the very least, didn't have Alvarez on as a writer at all. He's not listed as such in any form in the credits. On the other hand, Lords of Shadow 2 proudly proclaims the game as being "Written & Directed by Enric Alvarez". Maybe the game went through development hell, maybe someone with a better idea left, maybe Alvarez was given too much creative freedom, I don't know, but the ending to Lords of Shadow 2 as we recieved it was handcrafted by Alvarez and no-one else. That, and his defense of it is enough for me to dislike him.

On the other hand, Dave Cox was a writer for both LoS and Mirror of Fate. Hmm... #darkknight

Interesting, the director of the DLC was Jose Luis Marquez (director of MoF) not Alvarez.... Yeah.

I noticed that. I think I'm finding his work more enjoyable than Alvarez's as a whole.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Anglachel on March 26, 2014, 09:12:27 AM
I really enjoy this DLC. Playing as Alucard feels great. Bat and wolf form are awesome to use, especially with the puzzles which gave me a good challenge (the knight scrolls were actually helpful too.) I appreciate that the castle is the majority of the setting and even when you're in the present you can explore the chapel and throne room from the epilogue. Marie and Alucard scenes were also touching.  :)

Also, thank you Jose Luis Marquez. Loved Mirror of Fate and I can definitely see the influence in this DLC.

I do have some questions though.

1. What is this AVGN joke? (Wonder if he'll see it.)
2. Where are the hunchbacks?
3. Is this really the only DLC they're doing? Dave tweeted "Maybe.." in response to someone asking if Victor was going to be in anything else.
I could only hope it's the "ret-con" DLC lol where Victor doesn't die and there's an awesome three on one battle with Satan.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Ahasverus on March 26, 2014, 09:27:21 AM
I think we all should tweet Cox and Marquez (and Alvarez, heh) expressing our please with the DLC direction OPPOSSED to the main game's.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Nagumo on March 26, 2014, 10:07:56 AM
"Journey of redemption".

5 minutes later: family killing scene.   
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Ahasverus on March 26, 2014, 10:17:28 AM
"Journey of redemption".
5 minutes later: family killing scene.
That worked well. Dracul wasn't really good, his redemption should have consisted into defeating his dark side, not into becoming Batman since being a vampire. At this point you are nitpicking.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: e105beta on March 26, 2014, 10:27:25 AM
"Journey of redemption".

5 minutes later: family killing scene.

What is being referenced here?

EDIT: Never mind, figured it out.

Yeah, I don't see any issue with that. The idea was to show that Dracula was evil. I mean, how can you be redeemed if you've never fallen?

Magus joining you in Chrono Trigger wouldn't have been as cool if Magus wasn't a mass murderer and a warlord.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Viskod on March 26, 2014, 10:29:37 AM
Playing as Alucard was fun, but this whole DLC just felt kind of pointless and dumb. So Marie drags Alucard to the castle to get the Void Sword and Chaos power and put them in safe places for Dracula, but... not to get rid of the ghost of Carmilla? Or try to subdue the corrupt blood causing all of the problems in the first place?

Why couldn't she just tell Dracula where they were once he woke up? Why did it take Alucard to get them? It certainly felt like, your first time through in the main game that getting your powers back from the corrupting blood of the castle was exactly what you were doing anyway.

It just all seems like such a damn mess.

I looked forward to this game so much for so long, and its got its good parts but damn if the bad parts are just absolutely bottom of the barrel terrible.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Chernabogue on March 26, 2014, 10:40:51 AM
The DLC is very neat. Loving it! :)
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Nagumo on March 26, 2014, 11:17:13 AM
I was just light heartedly poking fun at he story. We're all friends here. At least, I hope so.

Anyway, I just think it was a funny contrast. The family scene is not something I would personally put in a redemption story, because I think there's also something like a moral event horizon.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: e105beta on March 26, 2014, 12:08:55 PM
I was just light heartedly poking fun at he story. We're all friends here. At least, I hope so.

Anyway, I just think it was a funny contrast. The family scene is not something I would personally put in a redemption story, because I think there's also something like a moral event horizon.

I can see that. It would be goofy if someone like Satan got a redemption story.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: theplottwist on March 26, 2014, 01:27:33 PM
"Journey of redemption".
5 minutes later: family killing scene.

Incarnation of evil plans a return to Earth.
Could've been killed on the first game with the VK. (Bonus points as Gabriel seems to have known this all along).

Alvarez justifies Satan's death by the VK. No answer when someone asks why this is not clarified ingame.
"Dracula now rules planet Earth" aw gimme a break.

Among other trainwrecks on the plot. Absolutelly hated LoS' story and it's extremelly underwhelming closure.
This may have been a playful poke at the story. But it darn is a real one.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Trevelyan on March 26, 2014, 01:39:13 PM
Interesting, the director of the DLC was Jose Luis Marquez (director of MoF) not Alvarez.... Yeah.

If it was the him and MoF team that did this dlc, then it's a shame they can't do more/a sequel now because of MS's refusual.  I really enjoy how it plays.  It's funny how much cooler it feels to have the Bat ability, rather than having to shimmy around every time.

I could imagine a sequel where Dracul tries to take over the world like Cox says and Alucard has to stop him once and for all, although it wouldn't make sense with the whole redemption thing. 

In light of no Victor in this, Cox 'maybe' is interesting..
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: MKKhanzo on March 26, 2014, 01:47:46 PM
Any pics of Slogra on the DLC?  ;D
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Ahasverus on March 26, 2014, 01:53:30 PM
Any pics of Slogra on the DLC?  ;D
There is no Slogra.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: MKKhanzo on March 26, 2014, 01:58:35 PM
There is no Slogra.

I know, just being sarcasting (sad at the same time) and echoing this thread:

http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php/topic,7068.0.html (http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php/topic,7068.0.html)
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Asgardwolf on March 26, 2014, 02:00:28 PM
Any pics of Slogra on the DLC?  ;D
Recuerdas el epilogo? eso es lo mismo q vas a ver cuando Alucard pasa por ese mismo cuarto antes del ultimo combate.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Mike Belmont on March 26, 2014, 02:09:05 PM
As for a "posibility" of a Victor´s DLC, if it came to light, I think that MS will follow the same way of the Alucard one, being a prologue of the main story, or a parallel plot.

I feel after a few years of LoS, a little weird. I like LoS 2 (for what I see) more than LoS 1. I sense some hate against LoS here in the forum, when in the past years they were more positive reactions. With the time, my hate againts LoS were reduced. Maybe I need to play the game for myself. So, anyone who doesn´t want his LoS 2 game anymore care to "borrow" to me, please :)?
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: KaZudra on March 26, 2014, 02:28:12 PM
a Victor DLC could work, but it would require more effort to make it good given the modern city.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Flame on March 26, 2014, 02:43:20 PM
So took the initiative and decided to look up translations for Dracula's mad wall scribbles in the Forbidden Wing

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I really dug the scribblings on the walls there. The ambient laments of Dracula himself echoing the halls was spooky as fuck too.

Only one i couldnt even read right, was this one

http://s28.postimg.org/6en1ftvnv/2014_03_26_00003.jpg (http://s28.postimg.org/6en1ftvnv/2014_03_26_00003.jpg)

couldnt make out what it said. and putting whatever i thought into the translater yielded nothing
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on March 26, 2014, 02:49:47 PM
Why is this STILL not available on Xbox Live??? :(

Yea, what he said!^^^

Judging by all these comments here it seems most of you have played it, do none of you have it for Xbox 360?

Because for some reason it is still not up and I can't find a freaken word of it on the web.

So any help would be appreciated.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: DraculaFan1981 on March 26, 2014, 03:03:46 PM
When is Revelations coming out for the HK PSN? It's been two days now.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Intersection on March 26, 2014, 03:16:06 PM
Just bought and installed the DLC. So before I take Revelations out for a spin, there's one question I want answered:

Will I be disappointed?
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Somacula on March 26, 2014, 03:17:16 PM
Just bought and installed the DLC. Still, before I take Revelations out for a spin, there's one question I want answered:

Will I be disappointed?

In the DLC? I don't think so. Of the main game? Yep. There are elements of this that should have been the main game. I mean the castle is properly creepy, and it's amazing!
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Flame on March 26, 2014, 03:36:46 PM
Just bought and installed the DLC. So before I take Revelations out for a spin, there's one question I want answered:

Will I be disappointed?
It's better than the main game itself
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: EstebanT on March 26, 2014, 03:45:24 PM
Just bought and installed the DLC. So before I take Revelations out for a spin, there's one question I want answered:

Will I be disappointed?
Don't expect Slogra, a double jump or a Crissaegrim that acts crissaegrimy.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: DragonSlayr81 on March 26, 2014, 03:48:19 PM
So took the initiative and decided to look up translations for Dracula's mad wall scribbles in the Forbidden Wing

(click to show/hide)

I really dug the scribblings on the walls there. The ambient laments of Dracula himself echoing the halls was spooky as fuck too.

Only one i couldnt even read right, was this one

http://s28.postimg.org/6en1ftvnv/2014_03_26_00003.jpg (http://s28.postimg.org/6en1ftvnv/2014_03_26_00003.jpg)

couldnt make out what it said. and putting whatever i thought into the translater yielded nothing
A small gripe, but it would've been more interesting had all that writing been in Romanian rather than Latin.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on March 26, 2014, 03:49:48 PM
It's better than the main game itself

dang this is starting to tick me off.

I've been hearing good things about this game but I can't even play it.

And everytime I search the web to see if its some kind of problem with Xbox Live or something I keep coming up with nothing.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Flame on March 26, 2014, 04:35:43 PM
A small gripe, but it would've been more interesting had all that writing been in Romanian rather than Latin.
Well, from what i can tell from Google Translate, Romanian seems to have some Latin in it.

It also makes sense since Gabriel WAS a Brotherhood knight, and he used Latin incantations whenever he defeated the Lords of Shadow. The Brotherhood Cleric enemies also use Latin incantations for their magic.
So I assume Brotherhood knights learn Latin.

Also, given the time period, the Bible was likely still written, and mass still given, in latin. Mass and the bible in different local languages is fairly modern. So anyone who had anything to do with the church, was schooled in Latin. It was basically the language of literacy.

That said, maybe it's just because Latin doesnt translate perfectly to English, or the translator is not perfect, but some of the translations are pretty damn rough.

Speaking of which, I COMPLETELY missed the very first scrawl, on the floor of the forbidden wing, right in front of the navigator


fraternitas lucis semper damnetur

brotherhood of light always condemned

Wondering what he means by this. Is it supposed to mean he condemns the brotherhood, or that they condemned him?
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: crisis on March 26, 2014, 04:59:22 PM
Quote
Wondering what he means by this. Is it supposed to mean he condemns the brotherhood, or that they condemned him?

perhaps both.. the brotherhood members are condemned to serve God, and he also condemns them because his service eventually lead to his downfall
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Gecko on March 26, 2014, 05:09:38 PM
Yea, what he said!^^^

Judging by all these comments here it seems most of you have played it, do none of you have it for Xbox 360?

Because for some reason it is still not up and I can't find a freaken word of it on the web.

So any help would be appreciated.

Same here. For serious.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Gecko on March 26, 2014, 05:39:40 PM
dang this is starting to tick me off.

I've been hearing good things about this game but I can't even play it.

And everytime I search the web to see if its some kind of problem with Xbox Live or something I keep coming up with nothing.

Okay, so I found it. Go to "Browse Games -> Add-Ons -> New Releases". It's there. It may have been there since yesterday for all I know. It still doesn't show up on the LoS2 extras section under "game details". Very annoying and confusing to find, but it is out.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Anglachel on March 26, 2014, 05:40:59 PM
Just bought and installed the DLC. So before I take Revelations out for a spin, there's one question I want answered:

Will I be disappointed?

I don't think so. No stealth is a major, major plus. Alucard's abilities are very cool, platforming is fun, the puzzles are a good challenge this time, the castle areas are creepy and there's more Toy Maker areas to explore.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on March 26, 2014, 05:56:51 PM
Okay, so I found it. Go to "Browse Games -> Add-Ons -> New Releases". It's there. It may have been there since yesterday for all I know. It still doesn't show up on the LoS2 extras section under "game details". Very annoying and confusing to find, but it is out.

No they just added that.

I checked about a hour ago before playing Dead Rising 2 online with a friend and it was not in the new releases for add ons, but thanks for the heads up.

EDIT

Just tried to download it and got a error message.........f&^ken Microsoft. :rollseyes:
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: the_truth on March 27, 2014, 01:32:25 PM
THIS IS A PUBLIC SERVICE MESSAGE WITH MINOR SPOILERS:

ATTENTION ALL, DO NOT PAY FOR THIS DLC; IT IS COMPLETE TRASH! IF YOU MUST SEE IT, YOU TUBE IT OR TORRENT IT! BUT DO NOT GIVE KONAMI YOUR MONEY!


This DLC is a joke; it is barely an hour and a half to two hours long, and involves using a character that was downgraded to the point where he feels stiff and absolutely clunky compared to Dracula. Remember all these neat acrobatic attacks he used while possessed by Satan, or even when posing as the lieutenant? Yup, they are all NOWHERE to be found. His special attacks all feel next to useless, and his subweapons are glitchy and gimmicky. The bat one didn't want to "catch" on to the points even when aimed directly at them at times, and the wolf actually glitched so bad at one point that I wasted 40 minutes running in circles in the 1st castle area trying to figure out how to get back over the bridge and to the teleporter, BEFORE realizing it was due to a glitch and had to suicide. Don't even get me started on secrets; there is one in the forbidden wing where you have to look ALL THE WAY straight up the roof and stare to see the bat point. Even with a dodo, I spent 30 minutes running in circles looking for it, due to the arrows pointing to the wrong damn spot! The time sub is just stupid: why the heck would Alucard have the power to turn back time? SMH.

The story is utter trash: Marie pops in to the present out of nowhere and cries over the castle hiding daddy's power. A cheap and lazy gimmick so that Konami didn't have to make all new areas and use new ideas in Alucard's game. They could have easily shown us what happened with him after MOF up until when he put dracula to sleep, and even after up until the modern day. But nope, they use 2 areas that look like they were intended to be in the original game for Dracula instead, and don't even have any new enemies (NO, that spear wielding skeleton does NOT count; talk about downgrading an enemy. Same for the void sword jailer boss). Heck even the concept art shows dracula using the time ability, they didn't even bother to hide it. SMH

There is a new boss: the lieutenant; and he's a damn joke to beat even on the hardest setting. The most difficult part is figuring out what to do for his final attack. Due to the camera, AGAIN! NOTHING IS REVEALED ABOUT HIM! The ending is also utter trash; tells us NOTHING!

I paid for LOS..... once on the PS3, and again on PC, and I was VERY satisfied with my purchase. But I'm glad I didn't pay for LOS2 or it's DLC; and after reading the reviews, you can bet when MOF comes out on PC, I won't pay for it either! Konami doesn't deserve my money for this dribble.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: e105beta on March 27, 2014, 02:09:56 PM
Whoops, already bought it and enjoyed it.

Damn, I should have waited and listed to the_truth
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Somacula on March 27, 2014, 02:35:39 PM
So took the initiative and decided to look up translations for Dracula's mad wall scribbles in the Forbidden Wing

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I loved looking these sections while playing through Forbidden Wing. It really made it feel as though Gabriel had really lost his mind. Anyway, since I need to brush up on my Latin anyway, I thought I might as well try and make a few adjustments to those translations.
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I couldn't discern what the image said either, but bonus points for the Golden Paladin's prayer (what the subtitles could catch anyway):

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I had to rearrange a few phrases to make better sense, but that's what it should roughly sound like. If anyone can find the script for the prayer lines glossed over by the sub-titles, it might clarify the missing pieces that I couldn't decipher. The Latin was pretty good from what I could tell, and the only qualm I have about it would be that they pronounce Latin "v's" straight up as opposed to "w's" which they should sound like.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: KaZudra on March 27, 2014, 02:37:41 PM
Welp, I'll be getting it next week, til then I'll be avoiding this thread
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Somacula on March 27, 2014, 02:39:09 PM
There's also some blood writings scribbled on the floor right after Alucard leaves the Navigator for the Forbidden Wing. I can't remember the Latin phrase, but the translation goes something like "May the brotherhood of light always be damned."
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: crisis on March 27, 2014, 02:49:45 PM
^that phrase is fraternitas lucis semper damnetur


how would every1 feel about a future cv game where the voice actors actually speak latin/hungarian throughout, with english subtitles?
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: the_truth on March 27, 2014, 02:55:38 PM
Whoops, already bought it and enjoyed it.

Damn, I should have waited and listed to the_truth

Yup, then you would have saved $8 and still gotten to try it. Glad you enjoyed it, but you must be more easily entertained than me. Which is fine, different tastes.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Maedhros on March 27, 2014, 03:09:43 PM
Some people around here don't understand the concept of forums and opinions being hateful/negative. You must love or ignore and don't post. Even if you paid for it all the same, in the name of mantaining Castlevania alive (and too bad, because it sold like shit anyway =/).
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Flame on March 27, 2014, 04:17:48 PM
I loved looking these sections while playing through Forbidden Wing. It really made it feel as though Gabriel had really lost his mind. Anyway, since I need to brush up on my Latin anyway, I thought I might as well try and make a few adjustments to those translations.
(click to show/hide)

I couldn't discern what the image said either, but bonus points for the Golden Paladin's prayer (what the subtitles could catch anyway):

(click to show/hide)

I had to rearrange a few phrases to make better sense, but that's what it should roughly sound like. If anyone can find the script for the prayer lines glossed over by the sub-titles, it might clarify the missing pieces that I couldn't decipher. The Latin was pretty good from what I could tell, and the only qualm I have about it would be that they pronounce Latin "v's" straight up as opposed to "w's" which they should sound like.

scio te adhuc
I know there are more of you.

I disagree with this one. I mean, who would he be referring to?

Considering the rest of the text that came after, it makes more sense to be something along the lines of my previous translation, of "I know you still are"

it's a  whole thing dedicated to Zobek.

One of these days I'm gonna look up the Brotherhood Cleric spells and shit, see what those mean.  Those guys are nifty to fight.

THIS IS A PUBLIC SERVICE MESSAGE WITH MINOR SPOILERS:

ATTENTION ALL, DO NOT PAY FOR THIS DLC; IT IS COMPLETE TRASH! IF YOU MUST SEE IT, YOU TUBE IT OR TORRENT IT! BUT DO NOT GIVE KONAMI YOUR MONEY!


This DLC is a joke; it is barely an hour and a half to two hours long, and involves using a character that was downgraded to the point where he feels stiff and absolutely clunky compared to Dracula. Remember all these neat acrobatic attacks he used while possessed by Satan, or even when posing as the lieutenant? Yup, they are all NOWHERE to be found. His special attacks all feel next to useless, and his subweapons are glitchy and gimmicky. The bat one didn't want to "catch" on to the points even when aimed directly at them at times, and the wolf actually glitched so bad at one point that I wasted 40 minutes running in circles in the 1st castle area trying to figure out how to get back over the bridge and to the teleporter, BEFORE realizing it was due to a glitch and had to suicide. Don't even get me started on secrets; there is one in the forbidden wing where you have to look ALL THE WAY straight up the roof and stare to see the bat point. Even with a dodo, I spent 30 minutes running in circles looking for it, due to the arrows pointing to the wrong damn spot! The time sub is just stupid: why the heck would Alucard have the power to turn back time? SMH.

The story is utter trash: Marie pops in to the present out of nowhere and cries over the castle hiding daddy's power. A cheap and lazy gimmick so that Konami didn't have to make all new areas and use new ideas in Alucard's game. They could have easily shown us what happened with him after MOF up until when he put dracula to sleep, and even after up until the modern day. But nope, they use 2 areas that look like they were intended to be in the original game for Dracula instead, and don't even have any new enemies (NO, that spear wielding skeleton does NOT count; talk about downgrading an enemy. Same for the void sword jailer boss). Heck even the concept art shows dracula using the time ability, they didn't even bother to hide it. SMH

There is a new boss: the lieutenant; and he's a damn joke to beat even on the hardest setting. The most difficult part is figuring out what to do for his final attack. Due to the camera, AGAIN! NOTHING IS REVEALED ABOUT HIM! The ending is also utter trash; tells us NOTHING!

I paid for LOS..... once on the PS3, and again on PC, and I was VERY satisfied with my purchase. But I'm glad I didn't pay for LOS2 or it's DLC; and after reading the reviews, you can bet when MOF comes out on PC, I won't pay for it either! Konami doesn't deserve my money for this dribble.

I thought it was better than the main game by leaps and bounds. FAR better. Despite Ignis and Glaceas being nothing more than Light/Dark magic in function AND form.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Ahasverus on March 27, 2014, 05:37:55 PM
I'm a little offended by that long ass post. It feels like an internet AD popup.

Sorry, DLC bought, enjoyed, replayed it for PLEASURE. 8/10 would buy again.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Somacula on March 27, 2014, 05:38:51 PM
scio te adhuc
I know there are more of you.

I disagree with this one. I mean, who would he be referring to?

Considering the rest of the text that came after, it makes more sense to be something along the lines of my previous translation, of "I know you still are"

it's a  whole thing dedicated to Zobek.

One of these days I'm gonna look up the Brotherhood Cleric spells and shit, see what those mean.  Those guys are nifty to fight.


I double-checked, and you're right. The arrangement of the sentence is what threw me off, along with the word "adhuc." I don't know where I got "more" from when you were right in referring to it as "still." Usually, verbs are the last thing to come in a Latin sentence structure so that it's usually subject/adjective/adverb --> verb. Literally translated, it would be "I know you still." I didn't add the "are" because there is no presence of the verb sum, esse, fui which means "to be" anywhere in the sentence. It can certainly be added for clarification though if that helps.

As for the Brotherhood Cleric spells, I was gonna try my hand at it, but apparently someone in the Castlevania wiki already did: http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/Brotherhood_Cleric (http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/Brotherhood_Cleric)

Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Flame on March 27, 2014, 08:36:34 PM
Yknow, there's one thing that bugs the FUCK outta me. I expected Dracula's tomb to actually, be, yknow, under the cathedral. Instead it's actually high above it, only a little bit aways from the giant stained glass window.

Dracula's tomb is literally right next to the throne room, high above the ground.

I can't see how noone would have found him and known he wasn't dead. ESPECIALLY the church.

then again, I suppose it's just pure fucking chance. Who knows when that was built. obviously long ago since Dracula's throne room is still there at all. Nowadays that shit would have been torn down to make something new.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Ahasverus on March 27, 2014, 09:40:47 PM
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I dunno.. Slogra?
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: thernz on March 27, 2014, 10:04:05 PM
alucard too
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Flame on March 27, 2014, 10:34:52 PM
So did anyone else find the

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Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: SSBBfan666 on March 28, 2014, 12:41:26 AM
I've had this thought in my head since the DLC came out. how odd/fun would it be if Alucard had some of Sam's moves from Metal Gear Rising. Like a special counter wher if an enemy strikes while Alucard is blocking, he would deflect the attack and retaliate  with a flurry of strike while wielding the Crissaegrim in one hand (like hos if you strike Sam in his bossfight when his sword glows orange when blocking). i think it would be a bit humorous.

i also noticed the reference to the Valmanway (SoTN version of Crissaegrim) which is a wind based sword. Alucard has several moves in the DLC where he generates a gust, vortex, tunnel, and more of wind to use against his foes (sort of like the Void Swords certain attacks). An example of this would be wher Alucard is in the air and he spins like a a propeller with his sword, which creates a cyclone underneath him that pulls the enemies on the ground closest into the air wher he can strike them.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: KaZudra on March 28, 2014, 01:23:17 AM
So turns out I got to play it, While too short it was rather enjoyable but I have noticed something...

Aren't Alucard's warp points also in the modern sections?
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Viskod on March 28, 2014, 04:59:36 AM
I don't believe so.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Gamermeister on March 28, 2014, 10:17:21 AM
Wow. People are still this butthurt eh?

LoS2 is a good game. The gameplay, graphics, ANIMATION, etc. are all excellent. The story did take a turn for the worst in the 3rd act and the stealth was a poor choice. But 9/10 Classicvanias had lame stories too. No one really cared tho cuz the gameplay was so fun. Thats how I feel at this point. Drac does NOT play like Gabriel. With Drac Im using the dash constantly.  The air dash makes a huge difference.

This DLC is even better than the main game. Alucards Bat and Wolf forms are excellently executed. Especially in some the later puzzles. Overall a really well designed DLC. Ill be playing it through several more times just for sheer fun.

LoS2 overall will be better recieved in time, just like LoS1. People just have to realize what the game isnt so they can enjoy it for whst it is: A damn fun game with a sometimes silly story. How many other Castlevanias fit that description?

Also, Alucard is baddass and the Hold Area Attack - Mash Area Attack combo is an awesome nod to the classic Valmanway attack.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: crisis on March 28, 2014, 11:06:53 AM
I agree that los2 is a good game, the gothicness of the castle is just excellent and exactly how a 3dvania should look in 2014. however i wont call the gameplay excellent for 1 sole reason: the platforming has once again been replaced with constant shimmying & plank-walking/balancing. i don't understand why mercurySteam had to feed this type of maneuvering down our throats; controlling Dracula is fun but having him shimmy his way thru obstacles like a monkey just comes off as unnatural & always had me saying "why am i doing this again." they coulda really added some awesome platforming sections this time, but there is none. even DmC had decent/good platforming and i was expecting that type in los2, but nope. just climb & shimmy ur ass to the next spot spidermonkey, don't expect nothing more cuz we aint giving it to ya

check out this example from DmC. imagine if the warehouse factory parts of los2 resembled this instead, then they woulda been A LOT more enjoyable & ppl wouldnt have been so harsh in critiquing those segments

DmC - Devil May Cry - Mission 5: Virility HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLFiZ06wJl4#ws)

but i agree that los2, like los1, will be better received over time. nowadays ppl are praising los1 as near-flawless but when it was first released it was getting shitted on left n right. go figure  :rollseyes:
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Ahasverus on March 28, 2014, 11:31:17 AM
I loved DmC platfforming.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Chernabogue on March 28, 2014, 02:35:48 PM
After completing the DLC, I really feel how LoS2 could have been better. The DLC is just pure fucking magic and cool.

If you say it is not Castlevania, you're wrong. It is.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Dremn on March 28, 2014, 02:51:18 PM
Jeez is the DLC really that good?

The one time I didn't bother getting my hopes up too.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Mike Belmont on March 28, 2014, 03:02:18 PM
After completing the DLC, I really feel how LoS2 could have been better. The DLC is just pure fucking magic and cool.

If you say it is not Castlevania, you're wrong. It is.

Yes, I admit that the DLC looks pretty good. Being based in his whole inside the castle, yes is very Castlevania-esque. My only complaint would be the length of the DLC...
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on March 28, 2014, 03:10:52 PM
Jeez is the DLC really that good?

The one time I didn't bother getting my hopes up too.

The DLC is what I would have liked the whole game to have been like.

You playing as Alucard (who's sword combat is great) in a dark Castlevania settings looking for old relics that used to belong to your father.

Maybe after completing the game and defeating your father you get to play as him to see his side of things (pretty much what I'm saying is that Gabriel/Dracula could have been a secondary character like Dante was in DMC4).

If we had a whole game with just that on top of a much bigger and diverse castle complete with optional bosses and secret breakable walls with actual platforming as well as no modern city settings LOS2 would have had at least a 8/10 from me.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: KaZudra on March 28, 2014, 03:15:49 PM
Jeez is the DLC really that good?

The one time I didn't bother getting my hopes up too.

Not really, by the time you get into enjoying it it's over.

Buy only on Sale, otherwise you're wasting money
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Mike Belmont on March 28, 2014, 03:24:42 PM

Maybe after completing the game and defeating your father you get to play as him to see his side of things (pretty much what I'm saying is that Gabriel/Dracula could have been a secondary character like Dante was in DMC4).


I prefer a story like LoK Defiance, as Ashaverus said days ago, in wich you can play with both characters in differents events of the plot, until at last one fight another (in fact, that fight against Raziel and Kain was awesome in Defiance :)).
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: crisis on March 28, 2014, 03:27:21 PM
if it was like 15 bucks then yeah wait till its on sale
but its only $8.. your prolly gonna buy mcdonalds with that anyway so u might as well put it towards this nice lil dlc instead, wouldnt hurt the wallet at all lol
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Flame on March 28, 2014, 03:37:28 PM
I'm waiting for someone to mod Alucard into the main game. i'd fucking LOVE that. Also would be interesting, might find more unfinished areas what with Alucards target bat swarm
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on March 28, 2014, 03:49:53 PM
not getting why people are saying wait until its on sale before wasting your money, this DLC only cost me 8 bucks, not sure about the price range on other platforms but I spend 8 buck on a typical lunch break from my job, not really much of a waste in my opinion for something your going to get some enjoyment out of if you even remotely enjoyed LOS2.

Now if it where 15 dollars or more than I would have to agree with waiting on a sale since this DLC is pretty short.
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: KaZudra on March 28, 2014, 03:55:43 PM
I'm waiting for someone to mod Alucard into the main game. i'd fucking LOVE that. Also would be interesting, might find more unfinished areas what with Alucards target bat swarm

Robin was modded into Arkham City, overall really enjoyable, I'm sure with time an Alucard hack in free roam would be worth a few hours of fun
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: DragonSlayr81 on March 28, 2014, 04:32:22 PM
I loved DmC platfforming.
*watching the DmC video posted*

Okay, how is it impossible to have a 3Dvania with good platforming, again? CV64 had an awkward camera, the 3D Igavanias were flat areas and LoS mainly focuses on scooting, shimmying, plankwalking and ledge crawling. WHY is it DmC that has beaten CV to this? I'd KILL for a 3D CV with platforming like the type seen in that video. KILL!!!1 K-I-L-L!!!! And thinking about such platforming combined with a traditional clock tower area.... I might have a heart attack from the bliss!
Title: Re: LOS2: Revelations - Alucard DLC releases March 25th - First Screenshots
Post by: Asgardwolf on March 31, 2014, 10:57:47 AM
So did anyone else find the

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When you reach the new Toy <maker`s area look at the top of the bell.