An official HDMI NES box with 30 preloaded games including Castlevania and Simon's Quest. Uses an NES-style Classic Controller that you can also use on your Wii and Wii U.
Apparently there's no way to expand the library, which is a missed opportunity. Would be cool if you could link your NNID and download any eShop Virtual Console games you've purchased.
I think I'll get one anyway just for the fun of it, and to have a two-button Classic Controller.
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Aridale on July 14, 2016, 07:17:12 PM
Im sure someone will figure out how to hack it and add more games. Ill be picking up one asap... maybe 2
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: TheTextGuy on July 14, 2016, 07:26:39 PM
Huh... it has Super C yet no sign of the original Contra. That also happened with the Wii Virtual Console. Why is it that the first Contra is always left out?
Tangent aside, this seems neato. Would've been nice if there was support for NES carts at the top or something so it doubles as an official famiclone (even if having carts stick at the top isn't really authentic).
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Belmontoya on July 14, 2016, 08:01:00 PM
I was hoping it would have online purchasing of more NES games.
You mean you can't even play original nes cartridges on it?
Way to take a great idea and botch it Nintendo...
But hey. At least they put ballon fight on it. That game is the best.
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Eric Roman on July 14, 2016, 08:21:30 PM
CastleVania III would've sold me. Love Super C, but yo, WTF with the missing Contra?!
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Claimh Solais on July 14, 2016, 08:39:44 PM
What immediately turned me off was the lack of Dracula's Curse. I'd have had that on there over the first two any day. I might grab it, since I know some people in my family would love it, but man, would've been an instant buy if it had that roster of games plus Dracula's Curse.
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Abnormal Freak on July 14, 2016, 09:53:48 PM
Contra is even absent from the Wii U VC. I'm not sure why.
And yeah, someone will probably hack the NES Classic. Guess it depends on whether the USB port is strictly for power or if you can access internal storage with it.
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Post by: Chernabogue on July 14, 2016, 10:47:58 PM
Hoped for CV3 as well, but I'll definitively be buying one in November :)
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: X on July 14, 2016, 11:45:14 PM
I don't think I'll be getting this. It's an okay idea, but Nintendo should be taking this thing to the top. The entire NES library is not all that big in terms of memory storage so I really don't see why that can't put the whole list of games onto that one tiny NES system. If they did, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. But like Belmontoya stated; Way to take a great idea and botch it Nintendo...
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Claimh Solais on July 15, 2016, 12:15:08 AM
I don't think I'll be getting this. It's an okay idea, but Nintendo should be taking this thing to the top. The entire NES library is not all that big in terms of memory storage so I really don't see why that can't put the whole list of games onto that one tiny NES system. If they did, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. But like Belmontoya stated; Way to take a great idea and botch it Nintendo...
I wouldn't say the ENTIRE library, since the NES has a significantly high amount of shovelware on it. But man, they could EASILY fit all the biggest NES hits on there.
All three Castlevanias, for starters. At the very least the original Mega Man trilogy, if not all six of them. The whole Ninja Gaiden trilogy, the whole Double Dragon trilogy, the original Contra... that's just naming a few games that should've been in the package.
But I'm really sour about the lack of Dracula's Curse.
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Ratty on July 15, 2016, 02:06:53 AM
For a second I was baffled at the inclusion of Simon's Quest* over Dracula's Curse but then it was obvious. If the Atari 2600 throwback consoles from the last decade are any indication, some high profile games were purposefully left out so that Nintendo could include them in future iterations of this system. If this one sells, and I expect it will, expect to see an NES classic 2 and 3 in stores in the coming years. Dracula's Curse will probably be on one of them, along with some significant but not overwhelming overlap from this release.
*I like it and it's a fine game for its time don't get me wrong. Probably even a little underrated these days. But the 3rd game is so much better and it's obvious which has more mass appeal.
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Belmontoya on July 15, 2016, 06:08:17 AM
I'll get my mom one for Christmas.
She won't mind the limited library.
But for me... I'll just stick with my original redesigned NES and my ouya.
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: TheTextGuy on July 15, 2016, 06:50:58 AM
All three Castlevanias, for starters. At the very least the original Mega Man trilogy, if not all six of them. The whole Ninja Gaiden trilogy, the whole Double Dragon trilogy, the original Contra... that's just naming a few games that should've been in the package.
But I'm really sour about the lack of Dracula's Curse.
Well if they're going for just one from Mega Man and one from Double Dragon, they've made some good choices at least. Mega Man 2 is, to some, the best in the classic series and a really solid game overall. As for Double Dragon II, it has co-op over Double Dragon I. Also it's less janky in comparison and it has that overpowered knee attack.
Also it's baffling that Dracula's Curse wasn't included. It's like they're teasing up with leaving the third one (and possibly best) out.
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: theANdROId on July 15, 2016, 08:08:57 AM
I wouldn't be surprised to see more consoles (I guess we can call it that?) like this, especially if this one sells (as has been suggested), but I honestly wouldn't be surprised either if Nintendo was leaving out some details in regards to ability to add games. Like, maybe adding new games isn't the plan right now, but if they see it sell well they announce something like, "Now you can add new games to this system! Pick up this cable, connect to the internet, and you can download these games at $X each / another set of games for $X!" Y'know...just not telling us that it actually does have the capability or that it's on the horizon. I don't know why they wouldn't tell us that, but it somehow seems like the kind of thing Nintendo would do.
Nonetheless, and limited collection or not, I want it! My wife and I have already discussed how it's somewhat pointless since I have a system that will play NES games, already own a few from the collection, and that I also want to own a bunch (or all) of the original NES cartridges anyway. Thankfully she seems to understand (possibly read as, "tolerate") my desire to collect retro-NES and SNES items.
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Belmontoya on July 15, 2016, 10:28:37 AM
The problem is that the ability to play more games and add games is fundamental.
by not allowing acess to more games via virtual console store or even the ability to play cartridges, Nintendo will be deliberately missing out on a huge source of money and fans will be disappointed.
There's absolutely no reason or excuse for it.
Honestly a lot of people still prefer their classic Nintendo's over modern consoles and games.
If Nintendo were smart they would make this new classic style NES console with online capabilities and they would develop new 8bit classic style Nintendo games for it. People would go nuts over that.
There is so much wasted potential with Nintendo that it drives me crazy.
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Lumi Kløvstad on July 15, 2016, 01:33:32 PM
Dammit why wasn't this in the general gaming thread? Someone should have stopped me from posting there you jerks. I can't count on you guys for anything these days.
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Aridale on July 15, 2016, 04:06:12 PM
You guys are way over thinking this thing. This isnt a new retro console from Nintendo thats gonna see support like a normal generation console. This a legal emulator on a chip of classic NES games. Its no different than the sega one or the atari one or any of the other "plug into a tv and play builtin games" systems. Only this is official instead of floating around in that space between illegal and no one really cares anymore
It could be a test for a future virtual console only mini console from nintendo... but I doubt it. Most likely this is just a neat cash in for the holiday season. If it does well we may see more versions in the future but dont over think it here
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Lumi Kløvstad on July 15, 2016, 04:11:21 PM
Bad news guys (http://gamerant.com/nintendo-nes-mini-no-more-games/). No internet is onboard, and no USB or SD support means these 30 games are all we'll ever get.
Still worth $60 I think, but way less bang for your buck than we were hoping.
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Eric Roman on July 15, 2016, 04:29:38 PM
Voting with my wallet. iTunes>Nintendo's Latest Error.
Why not leverage the influence of Social Media to force Nintendo's hand to copy Dracula's Curse.nes onto this thing?
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Ratty on July 15, 2016, 05:43:31 PM
You guys are way over thinking this thing. This isnt a new retro console from Nintendo thats gonna see support like a normal generation console. This a legal emulator on a chip of classic NES games. Its no different than the sega one or the atari one or any of the other "plug into a tv and play builtin games" systems. Only this is official instead of floating around in that space between illegal and no one really cares anymore
It could be a test for a future virtual console only mini console from nintendo... but I doubt it. Most likely this is just a neat cash in for the holiday season. If it does well we may see more versions in the future but dont over think it here
Yeah, this is really more just the kind of thing you buy your nieces or nephews for Christmas so they can "experience how games were in the old days". Or for an impulse buy for that non-gamer dad or mom in their 30s who see it in the store and say "oh man I used to love the Nintendo as a kid I gotta get this". I'm sure people will take the thing apart and figure out how to add more games to it, just like people figured out how to take apart the Atari Flashback 2 and add a cartridge slot. But that's kind of beside the point of the device.
If this one sells well enough, we'll probably get another one in a year or two, with many of the same games but maybe 10 or 15 different ones. It might be shaped like a toploader and come with dog-bone controllers, it might even have a cartridge slot. If there are noticeable emulation errors from this first one, it'll correct those, but it probably will still be just a tiny emulator in a box rather than a more expensive re-creation of the original hardware.
PS- Since I've mentioned the Flashback a lot here's a look at it to give you more of an idea of what this Nintendo will probably be like. Btw it's definitely a conscious decision to limit the games to release more iterations. You can fit every NES game on a single small USB flashdrive and you can fit every Atari 2600 game onto a single floppy disk but they still limited it to 40.
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Abnormal Freak on July 15, 2016, 07:27:18 PM
Ultimately, yes, it's a plug-and-play toy—and one that appeals to me much more than other ones. It's fine for what it is.
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Claimh Solais on July 15, 2016, 08:40:29 PM
Yeah, this is really more just the kind of thing you buy your nieces or nephews for Christmas so they can "experience how games were in the old days".
Funny you should mention that, cuz my plan was to buy this for my uncle and aunt, since they've pretty much stopped gaming after the rise of 3D consoles. I'm not big on the whole idea of the system (though $2 per game is what the system is pretty much selling, and that's a more fair price than the Virtual Console games), but I know my family would love this thing.
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Ratty on July 15, 2016, 08:55:55 PM
Funny you should mention that, cuz my plan was to buy this for my uncle and aunt, since they've pretty much stopped gaming after the rise of 3D consoles. I'm not big on the whole idea of the system (though $2 per game is what the system is pretty much selling, and that's a more fair price than the Virtual Console games), but I know my family would love this thing.
Yeah that sounds like a great idea. I was considering buying one for some family members to. It looks to be a nice no-fuss thing with plenty of great games at a good price that hooks right into your modern TV. 30 games should certainly keep non-gamers busy for a long time. For casual fans or kids who just want a hit of old school goodness without any fuss this should be a no-brainer, barring any unforeseen issues. Which seem unlikely considering Nintendo's usual quality control. There's nothing wrong with the concept of the system, I just don't think the target audience is hardcore old school gamers so we shouldn't expect or ask for the moon.
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: theANdROId on July 16, 2016, 08:18:16 AM
I'll admit that I'm not terribly advanced when it comes to tech-knowledge-y ( :)) but is is not feasible for Nintendo to add to this later? I can't site any specific examples, but I feel like I can recall several times in the past where they've said, "No, this will not do X, Y, Z," only to have them add that feature later. (Here's where the tech-knowledge-y issue comes in...) Sure they're saying it doesn't connect to the internet or anything, but couldn't they be keeping that to themselves for now, planning to release a $20 something to enable connectivity later?
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on July 16, 2016, 11:48:29 AM
Actually I think the reason Dracula's Curse wasn't added is more akin to "That game is harder to emulate with our current emulator console thing". But that idea doesn't hold too much water because the Wii and Wii (and 3DS) emulate the game pretty much perfectly.
I do know that other consoles fail at this and other special-chip games.
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on July 16, 2016, 10:54:07 PM
My parents want one. hahaha.
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Crying Freeman on July 17, 2016, 06:21:35 PM
CastleVania III would've sold me. Love Super C, but yo, WTF with the missing Contra?!
I'm getting one but seriously weird they left out CV3 and Contra. I do prefer Super C to Contra, but strange since Contra is the iconic game in the series that everyone remembers, and most ppl prefer it.
I would've switched Balloon Fight and Excitebike with CV3 and Contra tbh
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Belmontoya on July 17, 2016, 07:30:50 PM
I'm getting one but seriously weird they left out CV3 and Contra. I do prefer Super C to Contra, but strange since Contra is the iconic game in the series that everyone remembers, and most ppl prefer it.
I would've switched Balloon Fight and Excitebike with CV3 and Contra tbh
No way dude. Balloon Fight is one of the greatest games of all time.
There are other games on the list more expendable than Ballon Fight.
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Ratty on July 17, 2016, 08:10:13 PM
No way dude. Balloon Fight is one of the greatest games of all time.
There are other games on the list more expendable than Ballon Fight.
What do you mean? The world totally needed another plug'n play with Pac Man and Galaga. I have and have sometimes played Ghosts'n Goblins on the NES but I'm not sure who it would really appeal to these days other than the extremely nostalgic. Considering you can play the much-better-looking arcade original now. If you're gonna be a masochist at least have something nice to look at right? Gorgoyle's Quest 2, now that would've been an interesting choice.
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: TheTextGuy on July 17, 2016, 09:04:03 PM
I'm getting one but seriously weird they left out CV3 and Contra. I do prefer Super C to Contra, but strange since Contra is the iconic game in the series that everyone remembers, and most ppl prefer it.
I would've switched Balloon Fight and Excitebike with CV3 and Contra tbh
To be fair, Contra is missing from the Wii VC, Wii U VC and 3DS VC, yet Super C is on all three. Strange, isn't it?
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Claimh Solais on July 17, 2016, 10:44:47 PM
What do you mean? The world totally needed another plug'n play with Pac Man and Galaga. I have and have sometimes played Ghosts'n Goblins on the NES but I'm not sure who it would really appeal to these days other than the extremely nostalgic. Considering you can play the much-better-looking arcade original now. If you're gonna be a masochist at least have something nice to look at right? Gorgoyle's Quest 2, now that would've been an interesting choice.
I was kinda thinking that too. Same with Simon's Quest. I dunno who the game will really appeal to nowadays with its obvious and intentional lack of direction (not to mention the blatant deception in direction). CV3 is another more straight-forward action game, but unlike CV1, the multiple stage paths, playable characters, and alternate endings might have appealed more to the modern gamers who are used to more options.
I'm just salty about no CV3.
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on July 18, 2016, 02:32:50 AM
maybe there will be another nes plug in box thingy in the future? or snes?
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Belmontoya on July 18, 2016, 03:56:04 AM
Less than a year ago I had never once heard someone refer to themselves or anyone else as being "salty".
Now it seems that everyone and even my wife are saying this.
Where was I when everyone decided to start calling eachother minerals?
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: X on July 18, 2016, 09:51:21 AM
I've never heard the term used in such a way either. Maybe I'm just getting old, lol.
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: TheTextGuy on July 18, 2016, 10:23:54 AM
I'm one of those "newfangled younguns" who has been hearing the word salty be used as an adjective for quite a while. Maybe its due to a combination of Twitch chats and hanging out with my local fgc.
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Crying Freeman on July 18, 2016, 01:43:03 PM
For a second I was baffled at the inclusion of Simon's Quest* over Dracula's Curse but then it was obvious. If the Atari 2600 throwback consoles from the last decade are any indication, some high profile games were purposefully left out so that Nintendo could include them in future iterations of this system. If this one sells, and I expect it will, expect to see an NES classic 2 and 3 in stores in the coming years. Dracula's Curse will probably be on one of them, along with some significant but not overwhelming overlap from this release.
*I like it and it's a fine game for its time don't get me wrong. Probably even a little underrated these days. But the 3rd game is so much better and it's obvious which has more mass appeal.
The thought crossed my mind as well. If they do make another one in the future, it'd probably be even more third party stuff, since Nintendo put their best first party games on here. CV3, MM3 or 1, Ninja Gaiden 2 and or 3, Dragon Warrior, Contra 1, Double Dragon 1 etc. I'd personally love to see some more obscure games like Guardian Legend on a new one
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Aridale on July 18, 2016, 02:21:36 PM
I only heard "salty" in relation to magic the gathering but now I hear it everywhere. I think someone said its a more northern phrase? I guess its picking up traction everywhere else
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Claimh Solais on July 18, 2016, 05:26:24 PM
I have actually no clue where I got it from or why I started saying it.
I started seeing it used about 2 years ago. It's handy because it can have a mix of meanings but the primary implication in the usage that I've seen is that someone is angry/bitter/envious over something someone else did or possesses. It's also useful online because there's so many different salt-related images to be found or make.
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on July 19, 2016, 02:44:14 AM
I thought salty was pirate speak?
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Post by: theplottwist on July 19, 2016, 07:15:56 AM
It's a term "salty" to refer to someone angry is very old, but it became popular recently thanks to the fighting game community.
^^This^^
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Ratty on July 19, 2016, 07:36:46 PM
Now that you mention it, I remember the band Flogging Molly used the term in this old timey pirate themed ditty. Although I always assumed "Salty" in this instance meant surly.
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Crying Freeman on July 21, 2016, 09:32:57 PM
No way dude. Balloon Fight is one of the greatest games of all time.
There are other games on the list more expendable than Ballon Fight.
As Ratty pointed out, Pac Man and Galaga- nothing different from a ton of plug n plays. Get those outta here instead lol! Plus I forgot: Balloon Fight was the first game Iwata had programmed, correct? In that case, Balloon Fight should be a keeper :)
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Abnormal Freak on October 13, 2016, 12:53:20 AM
So with the announcement of the Famicom Mini in Japan, d'ya suppose it'll have the cartridge or FC Disk version of Akumajou Dracula? The latter would be cool with its save feature.
The box art in the video (skip to 2:00 for relevant footage) shows the Disk System logo so I assume it'll be the original version.
Probably won't get one unless you can plug Wii Classic Controllers into it like you can the NES Mini/Classic Edition, because the Famicom Mini comes with hard-wired and extremely tiny Famicom controllers, so that they can dock onto the sides of the system like with the original Famicom. Sounds like a pain in the ass to play with but kinda cute nonetheless. I'd have preferred accurate Famicom controller replicas acting as Wii Classic Controllers, because that'd be a lot more fun to use with the rounded edges as opposed to the boxy NES style.
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on October 13, 2016, 02:54:34 AM
Oh my....I wants that famicom mini. I'll buy one when I see one. It's so cute.
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: X on October 13, 2016, 09:30:59 AM
It's nice to see old tech still relevant in Japan, but sadly not so much over here. My sister's getting that NES re-release with the games already on it for her kids.
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Post by: Lelygax on October 13, 2016, 04:29:32 PM
Its a sort of thing that would be cool when you go out in a trip but doesnt want to get cartridges or CDs with you along with a console (okay, nowadays almost everything is digital or on cloud, but let me dream please)
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Post by: zangetsu468 on October 13, 2016, 11:58:20 PM
I want Mini FAMCOM ;D
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on November 11, 2016, 11:14:01 PM
It's out! :)
Anyway the pdfs of the game manuals can be found here: NES version (US) https://www.nintendo.co.jp/clv/manuals/en/index.html (https://www.nintendo.co.jp/clv/manuals/en/index.html) Famicom version (JP) https://www.nintendo.co.jp/clv/manuals/ja/index.html (https://www.nintendo.co.jp/clv/manuals/ja/index.html)
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Abnormal Freak on November 12, 2016, 01:42:32 AM
Out, and impossible to find. Probably won't be able to get one until a few months into next year. I mostly just really, really want the controller for two-button Virtual Console games.
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: zangetsu468 on November 12, 2016, 03:22:59 AM
Out, and impossible to find. Probably won't be able to get one until a few months into next year. I mostly just really, really want the controller for two-button Virtual Console games.
Only 80k on ebay. It's ridiculous, my Xbox has about 10,000 games backed up into it through emulators. I should be a millionaire
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Claimh Solais on November 12, 2016, 03:49:13 AM
I mostly just really, really want the controller for two-button Virtual Console games.
Quite literally the reason I want one of them.
Nintendo says they're going to do their best to get a regular shipment out for them, but this just seems to be Amiibo all over again.
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on November 12, 2016, 07:22:32 AM
This thing is selling like hotcakes. It's sold out everywhere and keeps on crashing its purchase in Amazon.
So anyone saying that retro games aren't too appealing clearly isn't seeing this thing smacking the crap out everything on sale since yesterday when it came out.
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Aridale on November 12, 2016, 08:44:19 AM
Ive looked everywhere for one since yesterday. I got totally screwed on em on amazon when they came back up... I camped the page for 15min and everytime I hit add to cart Id get some kind of error and have to go back and try again. They sold out again in less than 10min
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Belmontoya on November 12, 2016, 09:12:16 AM
If only it had an expandable digital library through the Nintendo shop!
Nintendo could be releasing new NES games and they would probably sell better than Wii U games or anything else.
NES is timeless and is the king.
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: X on November 12, 2016, 10:44:35 AM
Quote
If only it had an expandable digital library through the Nintendo shop!
Nintendo could be releasing new NES games and they would probably sell better than Wii U games or anything else.
Absolutely, and I felt that this was a wasted opportunity. Imagine this NES/Famicom machine with the entire game library on it. Including some of those obscure games that never made it over here. Easily done with today's storage capacity. THAT would be the s**t and I would definitely get one.
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Lelygax on November 12, 2016, 12:15:25 PM
Anyway the pdfs of the game manuals can be found here: NES version (US) https://www.nintendo.co.jp/clv/manuals/en/index.html (https://www.nintendo.co.jp/clv/manuals/en/index.html) Famicom version (JP) https://www.nintendo.co.jp/clv/manuals/ja/index.html (https://www.nintendo.co.jp/clv/manuals/ja/index.html)
They at least added info about some townspeople being pranksters/liars to the electronic manual, but it lacks a lot of ino from the printed version. Also no CV2 JP manual? No "Dracula 2" on Mini FC?
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: zangetsu468 on November 12, 2016, 06:55:20 PM
Jorge, if it's successful they'll probably bring out a sequel or a way to load more games onto the existing one.
Do they come with one controller only? Because how easy would it be to sell a second controller with some games built into it. People would lap that up and it would be inexpensive to produce and sell.
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on November 13, 2016, 01:11:12 AM
They at least added info about some townspeople being pranksters/liars to the electronic manual, but it lacks a lot of ino from the printed version. Also no CV2 JP manual? No "Dracula 2" on Mini FC?
The Mini FC only has Castlevania 1. There are some titles that are exclusive for the US and the JP versions.
It only comes with one controller? The hell? Then why package 2-player games in it? That's honestly a really weird decision.
Just another set of confusing decisions made by Nintendo... The only reason the famicom mini has 2 if because the famicom had built in controllers and including 1 would have just been silly.
I'm assuming the NES mini takes regular NES controllers, otherwise yes it's weird.
At least the NA and PAL versions came with extra titles. Think I'll hold out for the SNES mini though.
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: shelverton. on November 13, 2016, 09:35:28 AM
Yes. Yes! A mini SNES would kick ass.
What games? That's easy:
Super Mario World Yoshi's Island: SMW2 Super Mario All-stars Zelda: A Link to the Past Super Metroid Super Mario Kart Super Punch Out F-Zero Pilotwings Donkey Kong Country Donkey Kong Country 2 Donkey Kong Country 3 Contra III Super Castlevania IV Axelay Mega Man X Mega Man 7 Street Fighter II Turbo Super Street Fighter II Final Fantasy IV Final Fantasy VI Secret of Mana Chrono Trigger Plok Kirby Super Star Star Fox Actraiser Sim City UN Squadron TMNT Turtles in Time
You're welcome ;D
EDIT: I know some of these won't happen. Turtles for instance, or Plok. But overall I think at least 75% of this list is pretty likely, don't you?
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: TheTextGuy on November 13, 2016, 04:17:15 PM
I'm assuming the NES mini takes regular NES controllers, otherwise yes it's weird.
Sadly, it doesn't take in regular NES controllers, as it uses the same port as the Wii Classic Controller. But hey, it takes in Wii Classic Controllers as input... which isn't being manufactured anymore. I presume it also works with anything that uses the classic controller plug, although the only things available brand new are either shitty third party controller and that PDP Gamecube controller-esque controller... and the position of the dpad is naff there.
Yeah, your point still stands... this is a confusing decision made by Ninty. Ninty confuses me and hurts my head.
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Claimh Solais on November 13, 2016, 05:08:17 PM
It's really dumb. I hope they start selling the controllers separately, then. I have Wii Classic Controllers, but they feel really weird for most games (weird ass shape of them).
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: TheTextGuy on November 13, 2016, 05:39:50 PM
It's really dumb. I hope they start selling the controllers separately, then. I have Wii Classic Controllers, but they feel really weird for most games (weird ass shape of them).
I'm not sure if this applies to the NES Classics games, but for the VC, they made the baffling decision of mapping B and A for the NES games onto the actual B and A buttons on the Classic Controller instead of the more ergonomical Y and B buttons. At least the Wii U VC allowed you to remap the buttons, which would've been helpful if the Wii VC had that...
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: redrum on November 13, 2016, 06:35:42 PM
the cord is less than half the length of the original. why would they do that? (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwR-9tLVIAAj1Np.jpg)
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: zangetsu468 on November 13, 2016, 08:01:20 PM
the cord is less than half the length of the original. why would they do that? (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwR-9tLVIAAj1Np.jpg)
It probably came down to either target demographic and/ or cost.
Honestly I understand still retaining a port, but why does it need a cord at all? Varta batteries are a dime a dozen.
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: TheTextGuy on November 13, 2016, 08:26:52 PM
It's kinda baffling to see the short cord length in my opinion since a) back when Nintendo did wired controllers, the wires were very long. b) screen can get very big nowadays, and well you kinda have to be far away to get a decent view as well as not strain your eyes
it's like they designed this for the Wiimote in mind and were just like "yeah, throw it in for the NES classic I suppose." I guess the above is moot if you're playing it on a computer monitor.
Also the Sega Genesis controller has a short cord. Someone should do a comparison :)
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Lelygax on November 14, 2016, 02:14:15 AM
the cord is less than half the length of the original. why would they do that? (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwR-9tLVIAAj1Np.jpg)
This give me some AVGN vibes, what were they thinking?!
If I'm right, original Famicom have short cords, but not that short and it was because it was inside the console but for this one... Its like these old videogames made between Atari and NES. How you can play it without almost kissing your TV? At least its HDMI or AV cable, whatever it comes bundled, is huge enough so you can let the console nearby?
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Claimh Solais on November 14, 2016, 11:44:58 AM
Yeah, I think the cord length was made with the Wiimote in mind. It'd be a pain in the ass if it were as long as the original and plugged into the Wiimote.
That being said, a cord extension for the NES Classic would have been nice.
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Aridale on November 14, 2016, 03:25:25 PM
There is one. Its 3rd party but there are extender cords already on the market. Good luck finding the console to go with it tho!
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: LuxKiller65 on November 14, 2016, 04:13:36 PM
This thing is a software emulator guys, what else can I say?
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Claimh Solais on November 14, 2016, 06:20:12 PM
There is one. Its 3rd party but there are extender cords already on the market. Good luck finding the console to go with it tho!
Was talking an official one, but at least there are some out there. Though, I'm always really wary of third-party stuff since most of it winds up being garbage.
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Abnormal Freak on November 14, 2016, 06:59:07 PM
The Wiimote extensions that I got from raphnet all work really well. They only about double the length of a Classic Controller cord so there's no 6' extension here (only 1 meter / 3.28 feet according to the site), but they're solidly built. Worth looking into it, especially if you wanna pick up some cool controller adapters for other systems.
This thing is a software emulator guys, what else can I say?
So you're saying, We can hack this thing and put a proper library on it? because as-is All I see is Nintendo milking nostalgia with the most minimalistic effort.
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: X on November 15, 2016, 09:50:43 AM
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Yes. Yes! A mini SNES would kick ass.
What games? That's easy:
Super Mario World Yoshi's Island: SMW2 Super Mario All-stars Zelda: A Link to the Past Super Metroid Super Mario Kart Super Punch Out F-Zero Pilotwings Donkey Kong Country Donkey Kong Country 2 Donkey Kong Country 3 Contra III Super Castlevania IV Axelay Mega Man X Mega Man 7 Street Fighter II Turbo Super Street Fighter II Final Fantasy IV Final Fantasy VI Secret of Mana Chrono Trigger Plok Kirby Super Star Star Fox Actraiser Sim City UN Squadron TMNT Turtles in Time
You forgot some other SNES jems Selvertron, allow me:
Super Adventure Island Super R Type Gradius III
Title: BMC_War Machine
Post by: BMC_War Machine on November 15, 2016, 10:31:26 AM
Let's add Demon's Crest and Final Fight as well
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: X on November 15, 2016, 10:12:32 PM
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Let's add Demon's Crest and Final Fight as well
Dammit! Knew I missed something... How many more SNES one-hit wonder games can we think of for this?
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: zangetsu468 on November 15, 2016, 10:49:45 PM
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: X on November 16, 2016, 09:42:09 AM
OH! Just another thought. Super Ghouls & Ghosts. A tough sonovabitch but another SNES gem.
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Belmontoya on November 16, 2016, 12:44:12 PM
Actraiser duh
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: theANdROId on November 16, 2016, 03:18:17 PM
I really enjoyed Secret of Evermore. I'm not positive that anyone else cared about it though...that or it was one of those unsung titles that had a secret cult following or something.
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on November 16, 2016, 03:51:22 PM
I LOVE Secret of Evermore! :D
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: theANdROId on November 24, 2016, 09:11:57 PM
I'm glad to see someone else who enjoyed it! I can't remember how I stumbled upon it, but I fell into it like many people fall into storybooks! Silly but good story, good game play, entertaining characters and 4th wall breaks, awesome music...such a great game!
I've had an idea once that I thought would be interesting in a video game. If ever I somehow had the chance and skills to make that idea into a game, I'd want the end result to be similar to how the story and characters are portrayed in SoE...a mix of serious and funny.
Title: Re: CV1&2 - NES Classic Ed.
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on November 25, 2016, 07:29:18 AM
When I did GameMastering for a Pen&Paper RPG we were playtesting in College, I applied many of Evermore's principles.
SoE has a slow start (most people get turned off by the lack of anything helpful in the Bugmuck/Prehistoria area) but it ends spectacularly well. It's hilarious that even the game designers have yet to remember what the hell the "Magic Gourd" does! xD