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Re: Castlevania: Lords of Shadow - Mirror of Fate 3DS (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #5611 on: April 18, 2013, 08:20:59 PM »
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Its a good or bad number? I think its very bad but Im not sure.
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Re: Castlevania: Lords of Shadow - Mirror of Fate 3DS (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #5612 on: April 18, 2013, 08:26:00 PM »
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Its a good or bad number? I think its very bad but Im not sure.

It sold worse than Order of Ecclesia, which also didn't sell well.

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Re: Castlevania: Lords of Shadow - Mirror of Fate 3DS (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #5613 on: April 18, 2013, 08:35:35 PM »
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MS will say that its 3DS fault and that almost no one have onem or something like that. I expect to be wrong, since it would be cheesy.
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Re: Castlevania: Lords of Shadow - Mirror of Fate 3DS (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #5614 on: April 18, 2013, 08:43:51 PM »
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Its a good or bad number? I think its very bad but Im not sure.

It sold less than probably any other portable Castlevania release to date.

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Re: Castlevania: Lords of Shadow - Mirror of Fate 3DS (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #5615 on: April 18, 2013, 09:51:14 PM »
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And this is where my doubt turns into fear for the future of the portable Castlevania games.
Will this mean back to the old formula? Or the end of portable CVs?
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Re: Castlevania: Lords of Shadow - Mirror of Fate 3DS (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #5616 on: April 18, 2013, 10:45:11 PM »
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Personally, I feel it's a combination of problems. One, the 3DS is still relatively new, and it's somewhat underwhelming current library means not everyone has one. Second, MoF tried to be an HD Home Console quality game, on a handheld one. It was made in HD and "scaled down" third, it tried too hard to pander to the people who complained about the first one. As a result, it feels... strange. there were some strange gameplay and design choices. (collectible monster bios for one...)

Also, it just feels disjointed due to the reverse story. it should have been a console game, and it would most likely have been a completely different game, most likely more like LoS1, meaning no 2D gameplay. And that probably would have been for the better, since LoS' gameplay doesn't quite translate well to 2D. It was really kind of forced.

As far as "no more handheld CV's" Im honestly not too bothered by that prospect. Castlevania has been relegated to Handhelds for around a decade. With console attempts usually falling short or just failing.

Now that we've had a successful Console game... And an unsuccessful handheld, maybe it will give Konami the impression that they need to shoot for more console games with Castlevania as opposed to handheld. And that's probably what the franchise needs. To finally re-establish itself as a console series, not just portable handheld adventures.
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Re: Castlevania: Lords of Shadow - Mirror of Fate 3DS (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #5617 on: April 19, 2013, 01:09:59 AM »
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I agree with some of your points. But there's also another side to that. We may never receive another 2D sprite-based game (or 2.5D for the matter), be it MetroidVania or ClassicVania. That also makes me worry about the future.
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Re: Castlevania: Lords of Shadow - Mirror of Fate 3DS (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #5618 on: April 19, 2013, 01:19:14 AM »
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I agree with some of your points. But there's also another side to that. We may never receive another 2D sprite-based game (or 2.5D for the matter), be it MetroidVania or ClassicVania. That also makes me worry about the future.

I am also worried about this. I would like another 2D sprite vania, but maybe the future is not too kind for sprite based games.

Now that we've had a successful Console game... And an unsuccessful handheld, maybe it will give Konami the impression that they need to shoot for more console games with Castlevania as opposed to handheld. And that's probably what the franchise needs. To finally re-establish itself as a console series, not just portable handheld adventures.

This I agree with, but wouldn't it be best if Castlevania has a two pronged approach: one for consoles and another for handhelds? They could have two different teams to do those games.

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Re: Castlevania: Lords of Shadow - Mirror of Fate 3DS (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #5619 on: April 19, 2013, 01:24:09 AM »
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I'm not surprised, since their marketing sucks.

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there were some strange gameplay and design choices. (collectible monster bios for one...)

Well, i find this one very cool and not a bad or weird game choice.
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Re: Castlevania: Lords of Shadow - Mirror of Fate 3DS (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #5620 on: April 19, 2013, 02:00:51 AM »
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Quote from: Shiroi Koumori link=topic=4949.msg131520#msg131520
wouldn't it be best if Castlevania has a two pronged approach: one for consoles and another for handhelds? They could have two different teams to do those games.
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Re: Castlevania: Lords of Shadow - Mirror of Fate 3DS (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #5621 on: April 19, 2013, 02:19:05 AM »
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It sold less than probably any other portable Castlevania release to date.

wait a minute even less than castlevania the adventure and the other gb titles ?
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« Reply #5622 on: April 19, 2013, 02:20:40 AM »
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wait a minute even less than castlevania the adventure and the other gb titles ?

Do we have the numbers for those old titles?

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Re: Castlevania: Lords of Shadow - Mirror of Fate 3DS (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #5623 on: April 19, 2013, 04:30:52 AM »
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That is exactly what I'm concerned about. No more handhelds I can live with, but no more 2D gameplay games is something that worries me to death. My heart shudders to think of the possibility. The fear is cemented in that I cannot shake the fear that Konami will just blindly determine that the only reason MoF failed is that it is 2D gameplay and not 3D.

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« Reply #5624 on: April 19, 2013, 07:37:10 AM »
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I'll put that here.

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