Topic: WayForward wants to make a 2D Castlevania game

[Flame]

One of the old IGA timelines(that came in, I believe, the Japanese LoI guide) said that the Morris clan branched out from the Belmonts after Trevor, but before Christopher. Since I first saw that, I tend to think Trevor had a daughter(and a son) and the son continued the Belmont line, but the daughter married into the Morris clan, and gave birth to the Belmont blooded-Morrises.

belmonts are pretty lucky they keep having single male heirs.

Unless they just keep going at it till they make a boy, in which case we just never hear about all the other girl Belmonts.

[DragonSlayr81]

belmonts are pretty lucky they keep having single male heirs.

Unless they just keep going at it till they make a boy, in which case we just never hear about all the other girl Belmonts.

This is a problem I have with CV as a whole(classic and LoS). Not specifically solely a focus on female heirs more than a focus on family in general. We KNOW in the classic series there ARE female Belmonts. It's not a generational curse where they only give birth to one son per generation. The Morris clan is proof of that, meaning not only was a daughter born, she likely had a brother to pass on the Belmont name. And that intrigues me. What kind of relationship would the sibling Belmonts have? Were they supportive of each other? Where they jealous of each other? And if this is the case for one generation, what about others? What if, say, Simon had 4 children? Why not focus on the family itself, for once. Adding LoS into the mix, we know Gabrial had one son, and Trevor had one son, but for Simon, we know his bloodline continued on until Victor, but there HAD been MORE than just "one son....one son..... one son" and so on. And that would also mean, Victor probably WASN'T the last Belmont(if one generation, we got a few sons, a few daughters, and the branch out with their families). It really IS one of the reasons, as I've been saying, I want a family focused CV. Focus on the Belmonts(their family, traditions/rituals and closeness) and Dracula's family(maybe work in his brothers, his niece Elizabeth Bartley, son Alucard and such). Something more than just the "individual" which most CVs have been about. Individual hero, individual struggle, against an individual evil.

[KaZudra]

belmonts are pretty lucky they keep having single male heirs.

Unless they just keep going at it till they make a boy, in which case we just never hear about all the other girl Belmonts.

Well, it is the Belmont Clan, by definition is a group of families who bear the Belmont sir-name, a European tribe basically....

Leon would be that common ancestor, I would love to see a game or story when the Belmont Clan is established as a clan

[Nagumo]

We don't know how the Morris branch into existence, do we? People automatically assume it's because a woman can't pass on the name because of historical reasons (which Castlevania plays fast and loose with) and cultural values, I guess? There could be other possibilities. Passing on throughout the male line only wouldn't be very practical since they would be screwed if it died out completely. To put things in a Japanese perspective, sometimes there were several branches of a clan, and they came into existence because, for example, the emperor bestowed a clan member with a special title, which later evolved into a branch clan. It could also be possible a Belmont decided to found his own clan, perhaps because of an internal conflict. That would explain why there are only two branch families that we know of.

[RegalSin]

Belmonts are Belmonts. All we know is that Sonia is the earliest, when not looking at the PS2 games, and LOTS derails everything. It is also a videogame, that is based on "VLad the impaler", so do not be so direct about it.

[Flame]

Belmonts are Belmonts. All we know is that Sonia is the earliest, when not looking at the PS2 games, and LOTS derails everything. It is also a videogame, that is based on "VLad the impaler", so do not be so direct about it.

Sonia isn't canon.

LoS is not canon either to the original games.

[DragonSlayr81]

We don't know how the Morris branch into existence, do we? People automatically assume it's because a woman can't pass on the name because of historical reasons (which Castlevania plays fast and loose with) and cultural values, I guess? There could be other possibilities. Passing on throughout the male line only wouldn't be very practical since they would be screwed if it died out completely. To put things in a Japanese perspective, sometimes there were several branches of a clan, and they came into existence because, for example, the emperor bestowed a clan member with a special title, which later evolved into a branch clan. It could also be possible a Belmont decided to found his own clan, perhaps because of an internal conflict. That would explain why there are only two branch families that we know of.

Again, i would sure as HELL love to see something like that. Why Konami hasn't even TRIED to address this is beyond me. We have a clan, a family. With branching clans born from children, descendants on and on throughout the generations, it could make for a REALLY epic story.

Belmonts are Belmonts. All we know is that Sonia is the earliest, when not looking at the PS2 games, and LOTS derails everything. It is also a videogame, that is based on "VLad the impaler", so do not be so direct about it.

When not looking at either Legends, nor LoI, Trevor was the first, and IMO, that was the best for the origin tale. I'm biased regarding him and I don't hide it. He's the first Belmont to KILL Dracula and the whole bit about CV3 taking place in 1476, the year the REAL Vlad III died(debatable as some think it was early 1477, but for the longest time many believed it was 1476), makes it all that more cool. In OG CV canon, Vlad Tepes DID die in 1476.... Trevor killed him. But, he came back...

[zangetsu468]

Sonia isn't canon.

LoS is not canon either to the original games.

There was some theory going around that LOS belongs to the same canon as the older games. When I read the part about how Gabriel became Dracula who became Mathias who became Dracula, I swear I laughed so hard that I fell off my chair and farted..

[Flame]

There was some theory going around that LOS belongs to the same canon as the older games. When I read the part about how Gabriel became Dracula who became Mathias who became Dracula, I swear I laughed so hard that I fell off my chair and farted..

Man that theory is beyond even Kojima tier. Even kojima would be like, "Seriously?"

I DO like that Gabriel is a Cronqvist though. I always liked that tidbit in relation to his being Dracula

[GuyStarwind]

Going back to Belmont male heirs for a bit. I would imagine the wife, girlfriend or whatever you want to call them we're more than happy to keep trying for males. It wasn't so much they cared about having a boy but rather they just enjoyed the Belmonts and their "holy" power... wocka wocka wocka. 

[DoctaMario]

I doubt this will actually happen, but I'd love some more 2.5D Castlevania.

Beta is right about OOE btw. I'd add to it that none of the characters in that game are really worth developing any further, especially not any of the playable ones. They improved the level design of that game (which isn't saying much) but the characters were awful and rather dull to play as. So for that reason alone, I'd rather not see anyone from OOE brought back out again.

[Dengo vlad tepes]

Welp, after all these years.. it's kinda happening with Bloodstained

[zangetsu468]

Welp, after all these years.. it's kinda happening with Bloodstained

Said with enough thread necromancy to resurrect The Count Dracula himself

[Shiroi Koumori]

Stop with all those thread necromancies!
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