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Title: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: darkmanx_429 on December 18, 2015, 03:32:55 PM
Just got from the theater, definitely a must buy purchase when it's released.  I was super satisfied at that movie, that's how you make a freaking Star Wars movie.

Who else saw it?
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: BLOOD MONKEY on December 18, 2015, 05:44:16 PM
KYLO REN IS HAN'S GAY LOVER
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: Lumi Kløvstad on December 18, 2015, 07:34:52 PM
I saw a 1:15 AM showing on opening night. Holy hell that was so worth it. Worth the late hour. Worth the lost sleep. Worth the wait.

WORTH. EVERYTHING.

I was gobsmacked at how amazing it was.
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: Aridale on December 18, 2015, 11:16:20 PM
yeah I just got back. It was totally worth it. Quality movie
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: darkmanx_429 on December 19, 2015, 09:06:37 AM
I think this is one of the few instances where a movie actually lived up to all it's hype. Even surpassing it in some aspects.

On a side note, here is a cool snippet (especially since this is one of my favorite horror movies as well.):

http://www.blastr.com/2015-12-16/jj-abrams-has-secretly-been-working-4k-restoration-1979-horror-classic-phantasm (http://www.blastr.com/2015-12-16/jj-abrams-has-secretly-been-working-4k-restoration-1979-horror-classic-phantasm)
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: X on December 19, 2015, 11:01:06 AM
I haven't seen the film yet but from the sounds of it it'll be worth the purchase once released on DVD. I can see it then as I have no interest in forking over a ton of cash to sit in a cold, dilapidated theater with a bunch of noisy people. And that's not counting the food you buy there either. Our theaters are not being properly maintained which is sad. It'll be more cost-effective when I buy it from retail, then I can watch it on my own time for free whenever I want :D
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: darkmanx_429 on December 19, 2015, 11:04:37 AM
I haven't seen the film yet but from the sounds of it it'll be worth the purchase once released on DVD. I can see it then as I have no interest in forking over a ton of cash to sit in a cold, dilapidated theater with a bunch of noisy people. And that's not counting the food you buy there either. Our theaters are not being properly maintained which is sad. It'll be more cost-effective when I buy it from retail, then I can watch it on my own time for free whenever I want :D

It all depends when you go bro. I went at a 3:10pm showing for IMAX 3D on Friday afternoon and only paid $10.00.

Just go on a "off" time.

I've paid well more for lesser movies than a movie of this calibre in the past unfortunately.

On a side note, one thing everyone was hyped to see this it was quiet as a mouse.
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: X on December 19, 2015, 11:10:39 AM
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It all depends when you go bro.

That's true. But in my hometown (Whitehorse, Yukon) we don't have that luxury. There are only two theaters here and both are in serious need of upgrading. They are expensive to go to (more-so then a decade ago) and that's just for the tickets. You want food? You need to pay for it separately and it's just as pricey for a single bag of popcorn. And the kind of crowds that hang around the place make it somewhat unappealing. They are places I would take kids to if I ever had any.
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: darkmanx_429 on December 19, 2015, 02:45:05 PM
That's true. But in my hometown (Whitehorse, Yukon) we don't have that luxury. There are only two theaters here and both are in serious need of upgrading. They are expensive to go to (more-so then a decade ago) and that's just for the tickets. You want food? You need to pay for it separately and it's just as pricey for a single bag of popcorn. And the kind of crowds that hang around the place make it somewhat unappealing. They are places I would take kids to if I ever had any.

Not to make juste but that sounds just like the states..lol

Anyways you are in for a real treat when you see the movie.
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: TatteredSeraph on December 19, 2015, 06:07:03 PM
I still haven't come down off of cloud nine a few hours after getting back from that.  I agree, it was better than the hype.  I think it's actually, dare I say it, my favourite of the lot.  It hit so many right notes, and the effecs were done exactly how a Star Wars film should be done - practical effects where possible.  The acting was great, and I really loved the new characters, including Kylo Ren, who so lokelike he'd taken a smidge of inspiration from Darth Revan for his gear.  I loved that BB-8 was both a bit like and yet completely his own droid from R2D2. 
  The onyl annoyance I had was that yesterday on a forum I occassionally visit, some prat had decided to randomly post a major spoiler about the film, which turned out to be correct.  No warning or anything, grrrr.  Thankfully, it didn't ruin the moment itself.
I want my own lightsaber now.  One red, one purple.  And to run round at night for a short time in some nearby woods in my long, hooded velvet coat.  ;)  There's a fantastic bridge as well which is perfect for a lightsaber duel at night.  That film was just pure magic for me.  Loved it. 
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: X on December 20, 2015, 01:00:18 AM
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Not to make juste but that sounds just like the states..lol

You're right on the money about that. Because it's so true unfortunately.

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Anyways you are in for a real treat when you see the movie.

It's already receiving great reviews so I won't have to hold you to your word  ;)
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on December 20, 2015, 01:30:23 AM
Aaaaaaaa.....I really wanted to watch but I don't have the time due to Xmas responsibilities (and advancing work related stuff for January) and theaters are overpricing it.  :(
I'll just wait for dvd. At least pee breaks will not ruin my experience.
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: Inccubus on December 22, 2015, 01:11:12 PM
I saw it Thursday at 9pm at CineBistro with my girlfriend. Unfortunately I didn't really see it WITH her as the place has assigned seating and we got the last two tickets for that day on opposite sides of the theater. We did geek out over text during the movie, though.

I loved it. I rank it as my third favorite after Empire and Jedi and tied with New Hope.
I don't think they could have done a better job with it. The only complaints I could have are minor gripes not worth mentioning.

I'm going to go see it a second time this week, and a third time a week after that.
In the mean time, I already have cam recording I downloaded while I wait for the retail version to come out.
*And I don't wanna hear anybody griping about piracy. Disney is already getting a triple share from my pocket*
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: Lumi Kløvstad on December 22, 2015, 05:37:54 PM
We did geek out over text during the movie, though.

In the mean time, I already have cam recording I downloaded while I wait for the retail version to come out.
*And I don't wanna hear anybody griping about piracy. Disney is already getting a triple share from my pocket*

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Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: darkmanx_429 on December 22, 2015, 06:46:31 PM
Aaaaaaaa.....I really wanted to watch but I don't have the time due to Xmas responsibilities (and advancing work related stuff for January) and theaters are overpricing it.  :(
I'll just wait for dvd. At least pee breaks will not ruin my experience.

ROFL. I always think about this before I see a movie because the staff always talk me into the 0.75 more for a large refill soda and the moment I take 1 sip I ALWAYS have to pee halfway through the movie even though I make sure I go right before the previews.

And a tip for anyone that gets their movie experience ruined by adults and kids yapping or texting (with their bright @$$ light) during a movie, go immediately to staff (as for the manager) after you watch the movie and complain.

9 times out of 10 they will give you a free viewing to the movie again on their dime. In reality you will be able to see any movie you want. I done that for a couple of horror movies that got ruined for my by obviously under aged kids that snuck into the movie before it started. That's also when I decided to just only go to movies that I really want to see in the theater.

Sterling Archer - I am going to plead the 5th on this as I have "controversial" feelings on this and in the entertainment industry but I can honestly say if it wasn't for modders and hackers there would be alot of tech that we miss out on when companies make ideas better. But it's
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Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: Lumi Kløvstad on December 22, 2015, 06:55:27 PM
Sterling Archer - I am going to plead the 5th on this as I have "controversial" feelings on this and in the entertainment industry but I can honestly say if it wasn't for modders and hackers there would be alot of tech that we miss out on when companies make ideas better. But it's
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about the money.

I'll completely agree that the music and movie industry are pretty damn corrupt and topheavy, but pirating films doesn't give anybody ANYTHING, and I generally prefer to see artists get paid for their work.

It's a catch-22. Either we decide to stop feeding a corrupt system and artists feel it first, or we pay up and the artists feel it last.

Either way, the term is called "starving artist" for a reason (though no one would say Harrison Ford is exactly STARVING).
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on December 22, 2015, 09:44:44 PM
(though no one would say Harrison Ford is exactly STARVING).

Yup. He got a really fat paycheck!
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: Lumi Kløvstad on December 22, 2015, 09:46:12 PM
Yup. He got a really fat paycheck!

Like one 57 times the size of Daisy Ridley and John Boyega's paychecks.
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: PFG9000 on December 23, 2015, 09:32:51 PM
I saw it on Saturday and really loved it.  Definitely not a perfect movie, but it's far better than the prequel trilogy.  I thought it relied a bit too heavily on fanservice and could have been a lot more original. 
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But those aren't huge gripes.  I think J.J. Abrams wanted to play it safe and include all the fanservice to prove that he could make a genuine Star Wars movie, and prove it he did.  It was a really fun movie to watch, and I can't wait to see it again.
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: darkmanx_429 on December 24, 2015, 02:42:35 PM
And it seemed weird that Rey could learn to use the Force so quickly, with no training.[/spoiler]

Everyone keeps mentioning that. I believe that in that moment she wasn't really using it, I believe the Force manifested itself and actually was helping her wield that lightsaber. I would even go so far to say that Luke may have had some influence over it too, considering we don't know how powerful he has really become.
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: darkmanx_429 on December 24, 2015, 02:44:38 PM
I'll completely agree that the music and movie industry are pretty damn corrupt and topheavy, but pirating films doesn't give anybody ANYTHING, and I generally prefer to see artists get paid for their work.

It's a catch-22. Either we decide to stop feeding a corrupt system and artists feel it first, or we pay up and the artists feel it last.

Either way, the term is called "starving artist" for a reason (though no one would say Harrison Ford is exactly STARVING).

Make no mistake I am not condoning pirating films, but if you say anything other than the contrary people tend to get their panties in a wad. I think I kinda touched on my feelings in my statement.
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: crisis on December 24, 2015, 03:27:33 PM
was just thinking about some things,

the Kylo/Rey duel. keep in mind that he's also inexperienced too. Not so much as Rey but Kylo hasn't been exactly dueling with any other Jedi prior, because there ARE no other Jedi, or at least, no other Jedi with lightsabers. You can argue he was out of practice so to speak. So he was caught off guard with Rey who is obviously a natural prodigy Jedi*, whereas he dominated Finn (also Rey was pretty much fleeing the entire fight, it wasn't until she was "backed in a corner" when she struck back at him heavy). Dude was also heavily injured after taking a direct hit from Chewie's bowcaster rifle. Remember, upon hearing of what happened at Starkiller Base, Snoke told Hux to retrieve Kylo so he can "complete his training." hopefully this explanation can smooth things out a bit lol. he is still in conflict with the light and dark sides within himself, he's still not 100% evil despite wanting to be.

*perhaps even Luke's daughter or granddaughter, which explains why she is so powerful.

Lupita Nyongo's character I forget her name, is obviously the new "Yoda" and I can't wait till they reveal how in the hell Anakin's old lightsaber is still intact, to which she said "a question for another time." They knew all of us would have questions so they gotta keep us guessing which is great. Snoke is the most mysterious character thus far, a lot of criticisms about him but I thought it would be cool & unique to have a friggin gigantic intelligent alien character in Star Wars, so I was somewhat disappointed to see that instead of being this menacing 25ft tall practitioner of the darkside, it was just a hologram LOL. oh well. I don't think he's Darth Plagueis but we shall see

Cap'n Phasma is being set up to be the new improved "Boba Fett" and she will have her time to shine, mark my words. Kinda like how Boba was originally in A New Hope but was cut; he didn't do squat in that scene, he was just there to look cool & mysterious. Same with Phasma's role in this movie. Although that 1 Storm Trooper that was kicking Finn's ass, THAT should've been Phasma instead. o well

Also loved how they aren't completely ignoring the prequels; little nods to those events are in this film such as them considering using clones and the new Yoda mentioning the Sith by name. Despite peoples valid opinions on those films it's still ALL canon, as it should be and this movie acknowledges this


was one of the planets Starkiller Base blew up Coruscant? It kinda looked like it was but not 100% sure. If so then that's kinda a big deal since Coruscant was pretty much the "capital" planet of the Star Wars galaxy. General Hux did say they would eliminate the remaining of the Republic, so it would make sense for them to destroy Naboo, etc. since that was what those planets stood for in the prequels



why did Kylo Ren, Phasma, etc. care so much that Finn betrayed them? He was just 1 random soldier in an army of thousands, they shoulda been like "oh well no big loss jokes on you fam cuz we are legion" but instead Kylo was PISSED lol

Apparently during Rey's flashback scene of past events of the SW saga, you can hear Obi Wan as voiced by Ewan McGregor saying "Rey, these are your first steps..." among other voices such as Luke screaming from ESB. perhaps it was Obi that told her to use Jedi Mind Trick in that 1 scene with James Bondthat Storm Trooper

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I want my own lightsaber now.  One red, one purple.

true Jedi build their own lightsabers just saiyan
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: darkmanx_429 on December 24, 2015, 03:44:50 PM
I didn't sit through it but was there anything after the credits?
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: Lumi Kløvstad on December 24, 2015, 03:54:17 PM
No shawarma scene.

Sorry.
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: Aridale on December 24, 2015, 08:31:27 PM
Nope we sat thru it too and I thought for sure there would be... but nope nothin
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: PFG9000 on December 25, 2015, 03:49:20 AM
I really doubt that either Coruscant or Naboo was destroyed by the Starkiller.  It would be a real lost opportunity to relegate them to a 5-second "death scene" without even naming them.
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: Lumi Kløvstad on December 26, 2015, 02:05:18 AM
Think of the positives if Naboo was destroyed though: Jar Jar, and the entire species that spawned him, has finally been eliminated.








We're safe! PRAISE SNOKE!
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on December 27, 2015, 12:12:30 AM
Think of the positives if Naboo was destroyed though: Jar Jar, and the entire species that spawned him, has finally been eliminated.

APPLAUSE! Provided that none of them traveled to another planet.
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: Belmontoya on December 27, 2015, 10:35:25 AM
Just saw it.

Best Star Wars movie ever.

I loved the originals when I was a kid. But I tried watching through them again and they are just so damn cheesy I can't do it.

I know it's not an age thing too cuz I can watch any classic episode of Star Trek and love it.

The Star Wars prequels are hardly worth mentioning.

But I love the games and the universe so much. I'm thrilled to finally have a good all around Star Wars movie to enjoy. The new characters are awesome too! My daughters cousin told him that girls can't be Jedi. Just wait until the little turd watches this!

So glad I gave my girl her own light saber for Christmas!
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: darkmanx_429 on December 27, 2015, 11:24:27 AM
Just saw it.

Best Star Wars movie ever.

I loved the originals when I was a kid. But I tried watching through them again and they are just so damn cheesy I can't do it.

I know it's not an age thing too cuz I can watch any classic episode of Star Trek and love it.

The Star Wars prequels are hardly worth mentioning.

But I love the games and the universe so much. I'm thrilled to finally have a good all around Star Wars movie to enjoy. The new characters are awesome too! My daughters cousin told him that girls can't be Jedi. Just wait until the little turd watches this!

So glad I gave my girl her own light saber for Christmas!

Yeah, I am definitely probably getting the special edition of the movie when it comes out.
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: Lumi Kløvstad on December 27, 2015, 10:06:21 PM
Yeah, I am definitely probably getting the special edition of the movie when it comes out.

I really hope that now that George Lucas is out we'll never have to put up with another damn "Special" edition ever again.

The movie is as perfect as it needs to be and shouldn't be changed just because people have the ability to. This isn't a videogame and so it doesn't need patches or DLC.

They should just focus on making the next one as good as they can.
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: X on December 29, 2015, 06:11:16 PM
Welp. Saw the film. My sister took me to see it as a birthday prez. In other words I didn't need to pay XD

I like the movie to say the least. It is definitely more watchable then the prequels, and I liked the humorous moments as well. I'm definitely on board for the next film whenever it'll be made.
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: Inccubus on December 31, 2015, 06:51:58 PM
was one of the planets Starkiller Base blew up Coruscant? It kinda looked like it was but not 100% sure. If so then that's kinda a big deal since Coruscant was pretty much the "capital" planet of the Star Wars galaxy. General Hux did say they would eliminate the remaining of the Republic, so it would make sense for them to destroy Naboo, etc. since that was what those planets stood for in the prequels


Apparently during Rey's flashback scene of past events of the SW saga, you can hear Obi Wan as voiced by Ewan McGregor saying "Rey, these are your first steps..." among other voices such as Luke screaming from ESB. perhaps it was Obi that told her to use Jedi Mind Trick in that 1 scene with James Bondthat Storm Trooper

They named the system that was destroyed and it isn't Coruscant. They moved the capitol of the Republic after the fall of the Empire and my understanding is that they Periodically move the capitol to a different planet every few years as a sort of term of service thing.
So the capitol of the New Republic and it's fleet were destroyed, but it may not take too long to recover from that.

As for the voices in the Force Vision Rey had, you hear Darth Vader's breath, Yoda, Luke, and they edited a line spoken by Alec Guiness so that you Hear the original Obi-wan actor say "Rey". On top of that they Had both Ewan McGregor and James Arnold Taylor (the voice of Obi-wan in several projects) record the line "Rey, these are your first steps", which were overlapped with eachother.




As for "piracy", as people like to call it, people have some funny ideas about it. People think that if you couldn't pirate things it would put so much more money into the creator's hands. Maybe some people might buy stuff instead of downloading it for free, but I seriously doubt that it would be a significant amount. Then the other thing people don't ever think about; what makes you think that someone that is taking the time to download something was ever going to pay for it in the first place? Either they'd borrow it from someone or they will simply do without. The idea that piracy of non-physical data causes lost profits is largely a fallacy. /rant
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: BLOOD MONKEY on January 01, 2016, 04:42:11 PM
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Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: Lumi Kløvstad on January 01, 2016, 06:31:03 PM
So, does it bug anyone else that the First Order is so shriekingly, mustache twirlingly evil?

The Empire was kind of Order Personified, existing to bring everything to order and regulation, but you never really see them be EVIL with the exception of Tarkin, Vader, and the Emperor. Captain/Admiral Piett, General Maxmillian Veers, Captain Jerojod, Captain Needa, etc.; all the soldiers we see are just guys who engage in "9 to 5 villainy" in that they are just soldiers doing their jobs and trying to make the galaxy a peaceful place in their own ways. They do their jobs, and at the end of their tours of duty they go home to whatever home life awaits them. Well, unless those Rebel Scum blow them up before they get there.

And then the First Order has General Hux, who couldn't be a more smug leather and satin clad uber Nazi if he tried. He manages to make Grand Moff Tarkin, probably one of the most sadistic and evil characters in the whole film saga, look like a moderate guy with good intentions. Also, I have to question Hux on his choice of attire: leather and satin will make people ask questions.

As opposed to the Empire, the First Order can easily be understood to be a sneering, gestapo-patrolled oppressive extremist state, like if the Nazis became infected by Islamic State ideology and methods. The movie does a good job of communicating that the First Order isn't just an Imperial Remnant -- it's a remnant that has been made more extreme by the collapse of the Empire, as if they decided that the Empire fell because it was too nice to people. And Hux is their bloody poster boy.

But they've gone so extreme as to be almost comical from a narrative perspective. It's like they are AWARE of their evilness and take pride in it, and meet in isolated locations in the dead of night to have clandestine seminars on how they can be MORE EVIL. They're like Power Rangers Villains bragging about how they're more evil than their comrades, or Robbie Rotten in Lazy Town singing and dancing about how it's "Good to be Bad" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk7SFK3d9hU).
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Post by: Shiroi Koumori on January 01, 2016, 10:43:04 PM
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Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: X on January 01, 2016, 11:42:02 PM
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So, does it bug anyone else that the First Order is so shriekingly, mustache twirlingly evil?

Not really. If anything it is a reflection of the times we're in. The original Star Wars came out in 1977; during the cold war era, and the movie reflected the time in which it was made. The Deathstar itself--a cold war deterrent. Powerfull enough to destroy an entire planet but not used outright unless absolutely necessary. Now we have the First Order that reflects the age of our times--the age of terrorism and religious extremists. And there weapon? A device that destroys no-matter what it does. It suck up an entire sun, thus killing the solar system in which it rests. Then it fires out that very power onto other systems impacting multiple worlds in one fell swoop.
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: VladCT on January 02, 2016, 02:29:01 AM
So I finally got around to watching the movie, and...
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Post by: Lumi Kløvstad on January 02, 2016, 04:29:33 AM
So I finally got around to watching the movie, and...
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His emo bearing and temper tantrums are perfectly in line with the fact that no matter how hard he tries, he'll always be
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no matter how hard he tries. He acts immature, brash, and makes bad calls more fitting of an inexperienced field commander because he is exactly all those things.

However, his nose makes me wish he'd just keep the mask on.
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Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: Inccubus on January 04, 2016, 01:24:17 AM
I think that's the entire point actually. He's still threatening regardless of anything else.
Hell, it even makes him more dangerous than if he wasn't like that emotionally.

Plus, I think it plays off the dynamic of the Empire being more about the rule of order and , ironically, the First Order being much more radical and chaotic.

Also, YAY!
Going to go into the theater in less than 8 hours for my second big screen viewing.
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: darkmanx_429 on January 04, 2016, 10:58:18 AM
So I finally got around to watching the movie, and...
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I think that was actually brilliantly done as if J.J.  was acknowledging the prequels in the new trilogy. I know some minor references were made in the movie.

It was very Anakin-ish.

The only thing that bugs me as if epic as the ending of The Force Unleashed was.

Mark better get himself into fighting shape for the next movie.

There better be some kind of epic Luke fighting going on!

Say what you will about the prequels but one thing that they absolutely nailed was the fight chirography in the LightSaber department. In every movie none the less.

Hayden Christensen wields a mean LightSaber.

 

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Post by: Lumi Kløvstad on January 04, 2016, 05:12:45 PM
Have you seen that fan theory that
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might explain explain why she has such an innate grasp of mechanics and piloting?

At first, I scoffed. Then I was all "Hmmmmmmmm...."

And she DOES have VERY Padme bone structure, further suggesting a connection with Anakin and/or Amidala.
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: darkmanx_429 on January 04, 2016, 06:05:24 PM
Have you seen that fan theory that
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might explain explain why she has such an innate grasp of mechanics and piloting?

At first, I scoffed. Then I was all "Hmmmmmmmm...."

And she DOES have VERY Padme bone structure, further suggesting a connection with Anakin and/or Amidala.

How would that even work? I think that's reaching considering who her dad is. The same could be said of her dad obviously.
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: Lumi Kløvstad on January 04, 2016, 07:45:41 PM
How would that even work? I think that's reaching considering who her dad is. The same could be said of her dad obviously.

Except we have no evidence about who her dad is (not even a mild recollection), so you can't even say that.

Literally, all we know is that he was a guy on a ship shaped mildly like a cockroach and he hasn't ever returned from said roach voyage. That is the extent of our available data.

Here's a good (spoiler laden) summary of the theory. (http://overmental.com/content/star-wars-force-awakens-fan-theory-rey-anakin-skywalker-43432)
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: Inccubus on January 04, 2016, 10:44:56 PM
Ah, but we also have the fact that she has a very strong connection to a very particular weapon. That isn't there trivially.
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Post by: X on January 04, 2016, 11:12:40 PM
After seeing the movie my bro feels that Rye
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The whole lightsaber scene with the flashback snippets is a bit of a thought provoker on that front.
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: Lumi Kløvstad on January 05, 2016, 12:44:36 AM
Why would she have such a reaction to the weapon when Luke didn't though?
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Post by: X on January 05, 2016, 11:24:34 AM
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Why would she have such a reaction to the weapon when Luke didn't though?

And that's the million dollar question, isn't it. J.J. Abrams doesn't really think about things, he just throws them together believing it'll be good and nobody will question his train of thought. This happened with Lost and he f@#ked it up--his own creation. It happened with Into Darkness. Same conclusion. And now it's happening again with Star Wars. We're asking questions about specific elements that leave us scratching our heads, and he believes that nobody will question him. He doesn't learn from his past errors and he will continue to make these errors till something gives. Many believe he's the next coming of Steven Spielberg and J.J. has not denied that in any way. But when it comes time for him to be presented with his own Schindler's list aka his own brand new, epic creation, he will fail.
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: Lumi Kløvstad on January 05, 2016, 02:47:21 PM
JJ Abrams is more the second coming of Aaron Sorkin than Spielberg. Both are fantastic when it comes to engaging dialog and attachment-worth characters, but flop when the plot calls for more than that. Abrams is a gifted camera man, and a good editor, but he ruins every project in which he is the major creative force.

Pretty much everything amazing about Force Awakens can be reliably credited to someone other than Abrams, and often instead to the writing team headed by Lawrence Kasdan.

Abrams can be awesome and amazing, but only when others are controlling things tightly enough that he can't call the shots. In short, he's awesome when he's the executor of someone else's work, but only when.
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: X on January 05, 2016, 11:43:34 PM
Pretty much.
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: Mooning Freddy on January 09, 2016, 10:24:35 PM
Did you guys actually like it so much?
Seriously? I mean, it was fun to watch. Finn and Ray are cool characters. But the plot? Total ripoff of a "A new hope".
Also, the villians SUCKED. Kylo Ren looks like a pussy who was bullied in highschool so he joined the dark side. Seriously? Is that your idea of a scary bad guy? He's a wuss!

It's all like... Star Wars fanfiction. Nice fanfiction,.but fanfiction nevertheless.
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: X on January 09, 2016, 10:38:16 PM
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Did you guys actually like it so much?

I'm not one of those pathetic, obsessive fanboys if that's what you mean. The movie is passable--more-so then the prequel trilogy. I will watch episode VII more then the prequels.

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But the plot? Total ripoff of a "A new hope".

There was a lot of that in the film I noticed.

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Also, the villians SUCKED. Kylo Ren looks like a pussy who was bullied in highschool so he joined the dark side. Seriously? Is that your idea of a scary bad guy? He's a wuss!

No argument here. His character totally flopped the moment he took off the mask. And that was about half-way through the film. However he came on strong in the beginning when his unit attacked the Jakku settlement. That was the only time he showed any sort of badassery. And then it went downhill from that point onward.
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: Lumi Kløvstad on January 10, 2016, 08:37:31 AM
I'm not one of those pathetic, obsessive fanboys if that's what you mean. The movie is passable--more-so then the prequel trilogy. I will watch episode VII more then the prequels.

There was a lot of that in the film I noticed.

No argument here. His character totally flopped the moment he took off the mask. And that was about half-way through the film. However he came on strong in the beginning when his unit attacked the Jakku settlement. That was the only time he showed any sort of badassery. And then it went downhill from that point onward.

Which is narratively the entire point behind his character. He's idolizing this figure he's put on a pedestal and trying desperately to be like cool Darth Vader, but he has no experience and conflicted feelings that Vader didn't have and as a result he winds up being emotionally incompetent and a bit of a failure at being Sithy.

Personality-wise, he's literally the star wars version of a Hot Topic Emo. He thinks the Dark Side is cool and is trying to be Edgy Grimdark McSithLord like every high school Emo who ever demanded their friends start calling them "Raven Starmoon Dracul".

Concerning his threat level and "credibility" as a villain and anatagonist:

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Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: theplottwist on January 10, 2016, 10:31:11 AM
Spoilers AHOY

Use spoiler tags, man  :-[
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: Lumi Kløvstad on January 10, 2016, 10:54:50 AM
Use spoiler tags, man  :-[

The best spoiler tag is seeing the damn movie already.  ;)
And also probably avoiding any and all discussion of the film until the film is seen.

Rule number 1 of internet discussion of a new thing: ASSUME SPOILERS.

It's not fun, but it'll save your hide.

Edit: I did spoiler tag the post in hindsight, but my generosity ends there -- INTERNET SURFERS BEWARE.

If you're at all sensitive about spoilers in the 3 or so months after a new hotly discussed thing is released, do try to avoid any discussion not clearly marked as "spoiler free", because if it doesn't say that on the tin, then there's probably spoily sardines in there. After 3 months, spoilers will become essentially unavoidable and the last remaining option is to pretty much avoid the web altogether. In the case of Star Wars, this seems to be accelerating even faster than usual.
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: theplottwist on January 10, 2016, 11:40:59 AM
Dude, I'll try being clear while not being an asswipe: When visiting the CASTLEVANIA Dungeon, I do not expect a Star Wars spoiler being commented on so openly and detailed-ly.

The VERY FIRST THING I read on your post was:

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That's an incredibly detailed spoiler, and while you expect people to avoid all discussion, the common courtesy of using spoiler tags is also expected from you. Most people here are using spoiler tags. While you can also tell me to simply not click the Star Wars thread because "there sure are spoilers in there", I have no such option when scrolling through the recent posts section.

Telling me to "go watch the movie" also solves nothing - what if I can't?

Anyway, people, saltiness over. Proceed with the discussion.
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: darkmanx_429 on January 18, 2016, 08:32:35 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaOSCASqLsE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaOSCASqLsE)


Uber funny.
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: Belmontoya on January 18, 2016, 10:21:58 AM
The video won't load for me.

But if it's Adam driver on snl then hell yeah.

Dude was way funnier than I expected!
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: darkmanx_429 on January 18, 2016, 11:02:55 AM
The video won't load for me.

But if it's Adam driver on snl then hell yeah.

Dude was way funnier than I expected!

Yeah dude, I don't know what is up with youtube videos for me on the dungeon now. They don't load for me either.  That's why I have keep the original link in now as well.
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: X on January 18, 2016, 05:54:12 PM
Saw that vid and it was a hoot, lol. Didn't think they'd actually use the real actor in there, but they did.
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: Belmontoya on January 18, 2016, 08:33:09 PM
He was the host yo.

He made a killer Aladdin too
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: The Bizarre Trooper on January 21, 2016, 05:54:11 AM
I have seen the movie.... and it was AWESOME i mean holy s**t!!!! the refferences to past star wars movies! the setting! the Story!!!!! I can't wait for Episode 8!!!!
Title: Re: Star Wars The Force Awakens
Post by: crisis on January 30, 2016, 04:56:26 PM
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi0.wp.com%2Fwww.tor.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F01%2FChewie-and-Kylo-Ren-comic.jpg%3Fresize%3D740%252C1743%26amp%3Btype%3Dvertical&hash=208af938ad1cf5b4a2a3afce9542499e)