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Title: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Eric Roman on April 07, 2013, 12:30:25 AM
'cuz Dracula's Curse, Super CastleVania IV, and Symphony of the Night all were, for me.   

(Portrait of Ruin, also, but I didn't realize I'd been scammed until I'd filled in quite a bit of Nation of Fools...amongst other stinging quality lapses I've moaned enough about...)

Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Nagumo on April 07, 2013, 01:23:18 AM
Nope.

It's an alright game, but it's easily the worst of all post-CotM handheld games.
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: shelverton. on April 07, 2013, 02:58:22 AM

No.

I like the atmosphere and most of the environments. Heck, I've even grown to like the soundtrack. But the game itself is really boring IMO. I can't really put my finger on it. It feels old but not in a good way. It's not a Metroidvania nor is it a Classicvania. It's.... Prince of Persia, really.
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Post by: VladCT on April 07, 2013, 03:01:59 AM
Considering that the numerous amounts of checkpoints made death a non-issue, it's a no from me.
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Post by: JR on April 07, 2013, 03:09:01 AM
From what I've played...nope. I was anticipating this one, and still want to see how the story plays out, but I played it for an hour or so when it first released and haven't gone back to it yet. It's not bad, but I don't really feel compelled to play it right now, which is really odd for me to say about a Castlevania game.

It could be that I'm also finding less motivation to play a game on a handheld, too. My girlfriend always likes to watch when I play a game, and I can't do that with a 3DS. This would be my go-to game right now if I was dying to play a handheld game.

But yeah, so far, it's okay, but definitely nothing special.
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Dark Nemesis on April 07, 2013, 03:39:20 AM
For me it was a bubble that burst. It was looking so much promising at videos, only to end something mediocre.
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on April 07, 2013, 05:20:09 AM
Nope.

Other games would be better called as system sellers like Pokemon for instance.
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on April 07, 2013, 06:12:56 AM
Nope.

The game is a snorefest, at least so far for me.
The environments are quite beautiful but it's dead platforming at best.  Whipswinging is scripted, climbing (which there's a LOT of) is basically 'avoid steam/enemies/fire as you climb', 'adventuring' yield pitiful rewards (Brotherhood Scrolls, Life Upgrades, etc.).

And in between those segments there are open rooms with a handful of enemies, on which the battle mechanic feels stale (block, y,y,y,y,y,y or block,x,x,x,x,x or some variation).  There is no crouching, just dodging and dodge/rolling.

The music is forgettable.
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Eric Roman on April 07, 2013, 09:20:31 AM
Oh, MAN...!  Tragic!  It looked like so much fun in last year's preview videos...

At least there may be a potential gem or two in its swarm of MP3s whenever I come across it.  One thing that always failed less about CVs was the music. 

Thanks for all the impressions.
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Phoenix7786 on April 07, 2013, 09:21:53 AM
Much like Jorge said, I feel like the combat SHOULD have been so much better. In LoI and CoD, you still have to have proper maneuvering and combo sense (how much time to string which ones together vs what particular enemies). With this one, none of that exists. The characters fight virtually identical, and the combat boils down to mash mash mash, block. Mash mash mash, evade. Or for me, once I unlocked the auto combo where you hold down just X or Y, the combat got even more stale.

Ok whose the closet downvoter downvoting most of us who didn't say good stuff about MoF?
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: X on April 07, 2013, 09:47:54 AM
Definitely a big 'NO' for a system seller. And Jorge has already stated the reasons why.
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Lelygax on April 07, 2013, 10:00:23 AM
Or for me, once I unlocked the auto combo where you hold down just X or Y, the combat got even more stale.
Auto combo? This is a joke right?
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: uzo on April 07, 2013, 10:18:15 AM
Nope.

If it wasn't for Capcom's sweet sweet promise of Megaman legends 3, I still wouldn't have gotten a 3DS.
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Neobelmont on April 07, 2013, 11:26:18 AM
While I enjoyed it for the most part it still left me wit anodd taste in my mouth. S I say with out a doubt no. But I'll say this get a 3ds anyway. There are so many good games beside this and if you want a good 2.5d game get shinobi. Mof  :( it's 50/50 with me.
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Phoenix7786 on April 07, 2013, 11:45:30 AM
Auto combo? This is a joke right?

Nope. Once you get to a certain level, you just press and hold Y and he attacks, pauses, then twirls the whip/chain around him for 7 or 8 swings. And the X version is 4 or 5 hits, a stronger variety of the Y version.
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Lelygax on April 07, 2013, 02:27:42 PM
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fth02.deviantart.net%2Ffs70%2F200H%2Fi%2F2011%2F283%2F8%2F9%2Fdracula_face_palm_by_bigboss111-d4cgffw.jpg&hash=a8f5ef8dbae6c9ce7a01f5e0c4cb0079)

Also, discovered this:

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Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Phoenix7786 on April 07, 2013, 04:38:11 PM
Hahahahaha!
Ok which one of those turkeys was responsible for that?
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: KaZudra on April 07, 2013, 07:00:58 PM
No, simply put just wait for the HD version
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Flame on April 07, 2013, 07:34:44 PM
Using IIII instead of IV Is actually quite common for Clocks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_numerals#.22IIII.22_on_clocks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_numerals#.22IIII.22_on_clocks)
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Lelygax on April 07, 2013, 08:07:36 PM
I've only found this photo on Google and wanted to share, even knowing this trivia now, atleast someone must have laughed.
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Kingshango on April 07, 2013, 08:50:59 PM
No, simply put just wait for the HD version

My answer. Despite what Cox stated, this game was clearly intended for HD platforms in mind and it shows, so you might as well wait for that.

If that HD version doesn't happen, it's no big loss tbh and they're far better games for the 3DS both currently and upcoming.
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Ahasverus on April 07, 2013, 09:34:26 PM
Of course it's a system seller.
You play the game then you go to your nearest gamestop to sell your 3DS.
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Eric Roman on April 07, 2013, 09:39:14 PM
COMMENT OF THE YEAR.  XD
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Gaawa-chan on April 07, 2013, 11:18:46 PM
Of course it's a system seller.
You play the game then you go to your nearest gamestop to sell your 3DS.

I nearly choked to death on my burrito when I read this. XD
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on April 08, 2013, 03:08:04 AM
Of course it's a system seller.
You play the game then you go to your nearest gamestop to sell your 3DS.

Whoohoo! That comment made my day!

But isn't that too harsh on poor 3DS?  ;)
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Kaori on April 08, 2013, 03:40:00 AM
Of course it's a system seller.
You play the game then you go to your nearest gamestop to sell your 3DS.

I just almost choked on my breakfast, lol. Thanks for that. You get a +1!

But yeah, MoF is DEFINITELY not worth getting a 3DS for. I enjoyed some parts of MoF. It wasn't a bad game, but it wasn't really good either. I at least was able to get through MoF unlike LoS. IMO MoF was better than LoS, but MoF was okay at best.

There are other great games on the 3DS that are out (Fire Emblem Awakening, Kingdom Hearts) or are coming out soon like Pokemon X/Y and Project X Zone though.
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Rudolph LagnaGaisaer on April 08, 2013, 04:44:15 AM
Of course it's a system seller.
You play the game then you go to your nearest gamestop to sell your 3DS.

lol, this was epic. i still don´t have sold the mine but i´m really tempted to do it.
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on April 08, 2013, 04:58:58 AM
lol, this was epic. i still don´t have sold the mine but i´m really tempted to do it.

Even I have felt that temptation, however, I'll just reserve my 3ds just in case my DS dies.
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: VladCT on April 08, 2013, 05:20:05 AM
Of course it's a system seller.
You play the game then you go to your nearest gamestop to sell your 3DS.
LOL, wish Cox could've seen this.
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Kingshango on April 08, 2013, 07:22:50 AM
Of course it's a system seller.
You play the game then you go to your nearest gamestop to sell your 3DS.

Slow Clap (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAryFIuRxmQ#ws)
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Post by: Maedhros on April 08, 2013, 07:47:29 AM
Of course it's a system seller.
You play the game then you go to your nearest gamestop to sell your 3DS.
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Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Sindra on April 08, 2013, 04:09:08 PM
Of course it's a system seller.
You play the game then you go to your nearest gamestop to sell your 3DS.

Aha......you may yet win me over. Well played.
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Reinhart77 on April 09, 2013, 05:02:55 AM
well, it actually was for me.  i bought two 3DSs just so i could play the game.  the first when I first heard about it, and the 3DS XL just before the game came out so that I could play it on a much needed larger screen.  i'm mainly drawn by the beautiful 3D background effects, there's no way I would pass that up.  i simply love "being" in Castlevania and admiring the surroundings.  the combat could definitely use some work, but its acceptable, and doesn't keep me from enjoying the primary reason I'm playing the game.
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Lelygax on April 09, 2013, 07:05:45 AM
Of course it's a system seller.
You play the game then you go to your nearest gamestop to sell your 3DS.

Someone should send it to Cox. LOL
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Gecko on April 09, 2013, 08:01:05 AM
A system seller? No. There are other games for that. I still really love this game though. I've played through it four full times, getting 100% each time, and I'm playing it now for a fifth. To me it just feels great to play. It's a beautiful game too. Youtube can't possibly do its graphics justice. You need to see it in 3D.
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Post by: shelverton. on April 09, 2013, 09:51:53 AM
Castlevania has been a system seller for me a lot of times, but now I'm glad I got my 3DS for stuff like Virtue's Last Reward and Fire Emblem. As for getting my 3DS Metroidvania fix, I'm totally holding my breath for Batman: Arkham Origins Blackgate, which seems to be a 2.5D Metroidvania, made by people who worked on Metroid Prime. It should be interesting to see what they'd do with a sidescroller.
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Belmontoya on April 09, 2013, 03:10:00 PM
Honestly, as a portable system, the PS Vita is miles better than the 3DS. I bought my 3DS just for MOF, and after playing about 2 hours into the game I already regretted it. I wish I would have done what I did for CV Judgement, just bought the game for the sake of my collection and thrown it in the bin with the rest of them.

MOF missed the mark, and it's painful to type that out because I was sooo excited for this game before it came out. The 3DS is ok, but it's worth the extra $75 to just get a Vita, especially if you have any plans of getting a PS4.
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Lelygax on April 09, 2013, 05:29:42 PM
Please, tell me more about Vita, what good games they've launched? Im curious about it.
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Dremn on April 09, 2013, 05:36:22 PM
I enjoyed it enough, it could have been better.

System seller? No way man, as much as I like Mirror of Fate there are too many other good games on the 3DS right now.
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Neobelmont on April 09, 2013, 09:44:40 PM
Please, tell me more about Vita, what good games they've launched? Im curious about it.

There is person 4 golden, and later on there is going to be soul sacrifice but that's about it for me.
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Post by: Belmontoya on April 09, 2013, 09:51:23 PM
I have uncharted golden abyss, assassins creed liberation, dead or alive 5+ is incredible too. I'm really lookin forward to killzone mercenary too. But the big deal about is how it will work with the ps4 as a server to stream your games wherever you are.
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Post by: Lelygax on April 09, 2013, 10:09:44 PM
It seems that the only attractive to me maybe will be this stream thing, apart from persona and dead or alive I dont see anything that interest me (dont take it badly, these are all great games).
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Post by: Skycaptain Steampunk on April 09, 2013, 10:14:18 PM
yes keep the ridiculing at the spanish game, i make days pass, the leader of the forum give me the warning, i come back and every one is talk trash to mirror of fate but they can't see how the improve on the old castlevania, it is the best portatil, i sayed this befor and i say now, just look at it, no people with right mind can deny is the best graphics of a portatil castlevania.
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Post by: Munchy on April 09, 2013, 10:18:52 PM
As for getting my 3DS Metroidvania fix, I'm totally holding my breath for Batman: Arkham Origins Blackgate, which seems to be a 2.5D Metroidvania, made by people who worked on Metroid Prime. It should be interesting to see what they'd do with a sidescroller.

!!!!

Holy crap that sounds awesome! I still have yet to beat Arkham Asylum.

As for this game, I wouldn't say it's a system seller. I got it with a 3DS, sure, but I was also looking at stuff like Shinobi (good but damn is it brutal) and Luigi's Mansion (love this game).

It's not terrible. I love looking at some of the environments and that you actually have shit to jump on. Not to mention, thank Christ the Titan battles are gone. But it's way too easy once you get the hang of the combat and the platforming still has some of the same problems of the first game (can we say "scripted"?). Even worse is that the differences between characters are pretty superficial (different subweapons and magic, that's it); splitting the game in three weird parts really does the game a disservice.

Also, boss encounters made of QTEs? No. NO! Bad MercurySteam!
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: e105beta on April 09, 2013, 11:00:28 PM
I enjoyed it enough, it could have been better.

System seller? No way man, as much as I like Mirror of Fate there are too many other good games on the 3DS right now.

Monster Hunter, man.

Now THAT's a system seller.
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Aridale on April 09, 2013, 11:10:17 PM
Not here in the us its not. In Japan hell yes it is. Monster Hunter sells lots of systems there. I wish it had the audience here that it has there
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: TheouAegis on April 09, 2013, 11:16:27 PM
Can you drop a Vita 4 feet with nothing more than a ding or slight chip on the frame? I've dropped my 3DS twice on tiled floor, three times on carpeted floor, and just recently on a road (fortunately no one ran over it). Until I dropped it on the road, it only had one teensy chip on the underside, barely noticeable. When I dropped it on the road, it bounced and rolled a bit, chipping off a significant chunk from the corner and cracking another corner INSIDE the case. But the screen still works. I think the gyroscope still works.It's just an ugly device now, is all.

Can the PSP take that kind of wear-and-tear?
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Post by: Belmontoya on April 10, 2013, 04:21:41 AM
My 18 month daughter loves to play with my vita. It's not only been dropped, it's been thrown haha. Mostly on carpet but she dropped it once on the wood floor. The thing is tough as hell actually. I have a screen protector on it and if it weren't for that I'm sure it would be scratched. Well worth the $10 for the screen protector. I'm not sure about the 3DS but it seems like if you dropped it with the clam shell open it could be really bad.

The worst thing about the vita is the cost of storage cards.
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Abnormal Freak on April 10, 2013, 04:36:29 AM
Why don't y'all show more love for Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon, hmm?

:<

That right there is worth the price of admission alone for a 3DS.
Admission to The Cool Kids' Club, that is.

I love my 3DS XL. Then again, I oftentimes enjoy "kiddy fare" more than the current slate of "grown-up" games. Giana Sisters DS, man... Just bought it, just beat it, just loved it. My kinda game.



It's depressing to hear about Mirror of Fate, though. I've long supported Castlevania games even when I wasn't too excited to play them, but I abandoned that idea now. Lords of Shadow I probably won't snag unless I see it for under $15, and MOF just...well, I guess I'll avoid. Or play the demo and decide from there. I wanted it to be a good game, though... Maybe it is. HEY! Maybe you're all frrrrrrrucking crazy and it rocks! ;D
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Post by: Maedhros on April 10, 2013, 04:50:39 AM
If you guys wants a great Metroidvania game on Vita, play Guacamelee. I made a topic here on the proper area.
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Belmontoya on April 10, 2013, 06:15:42 PM
Wow I can't believe I haven't heard of this game. It looks awesome actually. I love the cross-play, cross save features. That works great with DOA5+ and I'm glad their doing that with more games on vita/ps3.
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Eric Roman on April 14, 2013, 11:44:08 AM
I would've only gotten the system for a strong CastleVania.  I don't really care about anything else.

Except F-Zero.  But they haven't decided to make it yet.  They're, like, 15 versions of the DS late on that one, ne? 

Gradius, too. 
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Post by: crisis on April 14, 2013, 11:47:49 AM
I've been waiting for a portable Super Smash Bros. game since the DS was first released.
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Inccubus on April 14, 2013, 11:49:38 AM
I was thinking about F-Zero just the other day. No love for F-Zero, I guess. :poo:
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Post by: Phoenix7786 on April 14, 2013, 08:23:02 PM
Can the PSP take that kind of wear-and-tear?

I bought a PSP when it first launched. To this day the only system I regret buying. It fell out of my hands once (I was sitting down hunched over) and it caused an awful grinding noise from the UMD device after that, but it still worked. Then the screen cracked while it was in my book-bag (despite being in its protective case) and that was all she wrote for that thing. I was so pissed I never bought another. Maybe the PSP's they make now are better, but not when I had one.
Like TA said though, the DS and 3DS have taken some abuse that had me cringing yet were much better than I expected.
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Post by: Skycaptain Steampunk on April 14, 2013, 10:14:59 PM
No but for the psp its horrible the version of dracula x it haved, but graet games for the psp, like silent hill origin and shatered memory, and other of zombies i cant remember is infection, some thing that. The diference is 3ds the best game is mirror of fate and the other gemes is the filling of the portatil, psp valied for other games but castlevania no.
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Post by: Shiroi Koumori on April 15, 2013, 01:53:58 AM
I played games on my DS more than my PSP, and my 3DS is sleeping in a corner waiting for some Japanese games that might be ported (it shall serve as my ds backup, ahahahahaha, but I think it will take a long time before that happens.)
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Maedhros on April 15, 2013, 10:36:40 AM
I bought a PSP when it first launched. To this day the only system I regret buying. It fell out of my hands once (I was sitting down hunched over) and it caused an awful grinding noise from the UMD device after that, but it still worked. Then the screen cracked while it was in my book-bag (despite being in its protective case) and that was all she wrote for that thing. I was so pissed I never bought another. Maybe the PSP's they make now are better, but not when I had one.
Like TA said though, the DS and 3DS have taken some abuse that had me cringing yet were much better than I expected.
Funny that you say that, because the DS and the 3DS are made like Fisher Price toys. Completely crap building. Lot's of problems, like screens touching it other, hinges cracking, etc.

You need to be absolutelly careful with any portable, seriously. They're not the same anymore. From Gameboy to GBA, portable where almost indestrutible. Now? It just needs one fall for them to be destroyed. =/
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Pfil on April 17, 2013, 01:24:43 AM
I find the PSP as a superior piece of technology than the NDS, but back when I had to choose which one to buy first, I chose NDS for obvious reasons (2 Castlevanias, and one more in the way).
Still, as of today, NDS has a far better catalog of games for my tastes, but both consoles have a pretty large list of games I like.
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Post by: Aridale on April 17, 2013, 08:15:02 AM
I agree about the psp! I also like your avatar pic =D
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Post by: Flame on April 17, 2013, 03:11:28 PM
What IS your avatar exactly, Pfil? im curious, since its so tiny.
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: crisis on April 17, 2013, 03:22:27 PM
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What IS your avatar exactly, Pfil? im curious, since its so tiny.

I own a PSPhat since launch and although the overall catalogue may not be as extensive as the DS', the technology more than makes up for it with the various consoles it emulates. All you need is like a 16-32gb Memory Stick and you're free to add anything you want. So there's literally thousands of games at my disposal while wielding the PSP. Bacon Strips.
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Post by: Flame on April 17, 2013, 04:18:04 PM
I fail to see how that's relevant to Pfil's avatar. Mis-quote, much?
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Post by: Phoenix7786 on April 17, 2013, 05:48:44 PM
I also feel that adding homebrews (like emulation) to an argument over which system is superior is unfair.
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Neobelmont on April 17, 2013, 06:24:45 PM
I fail to see how that's relevant to Pfil's avatar. Mis-quote, much?

drunk perhaps?
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: crisis on April 17, 2013, 06:29:04 PM
Well if you just go by tech-wise, the PSP was superior to the DS. I'm not trying to turn this into an "emulation was better" argument but for me personally it was just icing on the cake, I enjoyed both portables equally but the psp's capabilities gave it much more replayability especially where Castlevania is concerned. I never did figure out how to hack my DS.

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drunk perhaps?
your signature image is huge
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Neobelmont on April 17, 2013, 06:59:26 PM
Well if you just go by tech-wise, the PSP was superior to the DS. I'm not trying to turn this into an "emulation was better" argument but for me personally it was just icing on the cake, I enjoyed both portables equally but the psp's capabilities gave it much more replayability especially where Castlevania is concerned. I never did figure out how to hack my DS.
your signature image is huge

yet the dimension is exactly 400x300 crazy huh?

ehh sorry about the drunk comment. Should  not jump in thinking stuff like that 
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Post by: crisis on April 17, 2013, 07:10:45 PM
If you're really sorry then you'll take a picture of yourself holding up a sign saying "if i get 1000 likes then crisis from CVD will forgive me and buy me a bunny" and post it on Facebook
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Neobelmont on April 17, 2013, 09:44:02 PM
If you're really sorry then you'll take a picture of yourself holding up a sign saying "if i get 1000 likes then crisis from CVD will forgive me and buy me a bunny" and post it on Facebook

Yeah..... not going to happen  :P  :rollseyes:  ;)
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: uzo on April 17, 2013, 11:35:08 PM
If you're really sorry then you'll take a picture of yourself holding up a sign saying "if i get 1000 likes then crisis from CVD will forgive me and buy me a bunny" and post it on Facebook

Drunkity drunk drunk.
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Pfil on April 18, 2013, 12:04:23 AM
@Aridale: Thanks!  :)

@Flame: It is a character from a manga I used to read a lot back in my teenager days. The character name is Pfil. It's a fairy. That's just a little image of her that I found to use as an avatar.

About emulation, PSP is far superior from my experience. I can emulate SNES, Sega Genesis and NES, and with a memory stick I can have all the games I like from those systems available to play in my purse. It comes in handy when I travel.
But, with NDS I could emulate all GBA games (by hardware), and NES and Master System (by software), using a device called Super Card, which uses an SD card and goes into the GBA slot. There's also an update to that, including another device, to be put in the NDS slot, in order to emulate NDS games by hardware. That is pretty cool too.
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Pfil on April 18, 2013, 01:23:40 AM
I oftentimes enjoy "kiddy fare" more than the current slate of "grown-up" games. Giana Sisters DS
Did you play Giana Sisters: Twisted Dreams for PC? That's a great game! Beautiful landscapes, great soundtrack, just the right difficulty, complex but retro gameplay... it's the full package!
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Maedhros on April 18, 2013, 09:57:37 AM
The PSP really has a great catalogue of games, provided that you don't suck nintendo's cock and needs nintendo's game in your life. Specially for RPGs, I find the PSP has the upperhand in RPGs, even though the DS has some great ones (TWEWY, Radiant Historia, etc).

Also, PSP has YS series.

But I would recommend having BOTH, since DS has 3 Castlevanias. :P
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Pfil on April 18, 2013, 12:00:00 PM
Yes, I agree.
Riviera: The Promised Land is my PSP favourite game.
Also, 2 Prinny games make an excellent addition.
About RPG's, I think both of them have lots of great titles to choose from.
I bought NDS first because of Castlevania (I purchased it with Nintendogs included, and the Super Card), otherwise I would have bought the PSP (I purchased it with some games: Ultimate Ghosts and Goblins, Final Fantasy 1 and 2, Dracula X Chronicles and Megaman Powered Up).
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on April 19, 2013, 01:29:59 AM
I bought NDS first because of Castlevania (I purchased it with Nintendogs included, and the Super Card), otherwise I would have bought the PSP (I purchased it with some games: Ultimate Ghosts and Goblins, Final Fantasy 1 and 2, Dracula X Chronicles and Megaman Powered Up).

Me too. Though I got Mario Kart and Tetris along with CV instead of Nintendogs. I just bought a PSP on the same year just for the sake of having one. I got Itadaki Street, some Gundam games as my first games for the PSP. Then a few years later DxC came along and I'm happy.  ;D
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Inccubus on April 20, 2013, 09:03:57 PM
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Not to fan any flames, but I'm a VERY old-school CV fan and honestly LoS has had nothing much for me. Well, the artwork was good. The music has pretty much all been forgettable Hollywood tripe. Also, the game play was too derivative for it's own good. The story has been no better than the original timeline's regardless of the over abundance of melodrama. MoF was a half-asses attempt to infuse the LoS with some classic series style game play. It might have worked if they hadn't completely separated combat from platforming. This had the unfortunate effect making the exploration aspect of the game  incredibly boring. Also, why the hell do bad-ass Vampire Hunters have to take 3 swings at a barrel for it to break? That's just a lousy design choice. The added ability to swim was nice, though. The plot twists that were easier to see coming than a flaming truckload of manure barreling down the highway at midnight were not. And for god's sake when are they going to learn that locking me in a room full of waves of enemies that absorb damage like a tank with ablative armor is not fun. Still, there were a few cool things here and there. That said, I have absolutely no hope for the final game in the trilogy. I expect nothing but vaguely veiled retelling of big-bad turned anti-hero that I already played through years ago in Legacy of Kain only less original and with the "Extreme, Epic" turned up as high as the hardware will allow.

I posted this on another site. I realized that this is a pretty concise summary of what I really think about LoS, MoF, and LoS2.
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Eric Roman on April 23, 2013, 02:30:13 PM
Nice.

I've had little hands-on experience with the Lords of Shadow, but from the outside looking in, I think it's just great that CV's got its testosterone back after all those mapquests starring girls. 
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Pfil on April 23, 2013, 04:04:08 PM
It happens so that part of a fanbase is constituted by girls, who happen to like mapquest starring girls.
Many of them present on this forums.
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Gaawa-chan on April 23, 2013, 06:06:45 PM
I've had little hands-on experience with the Lords of Shadow, but from the outside looking in, I think it's just great that CV's got its testosterone back after all those mapquests starring girls.

Yeah, how dare girls and effeminate men play lead roles in video games?!  GTF back into the kitchen girls, and the effeminate male characters are only allowed to be comic relief characters or villains, damn it!
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Skycaptain Steampunk on April 23, 2013, 06:23:41 PM
the heros should be the warriors, all the manly, he is very right of this.
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: uzo on April 23, 2013, 06:35:11 PM
Because you can't be a warrior and female or feminine in any sort of way?

What a load of shit.
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Phoenix7786 on April 23, 2013, 06:42:40 PM
Nice.

I've had little hands-on experience with the Lords of Shadow, but from the outside looking in, I think it's just great that CV's got its testosterone back after all those mapquests starring girls.

What's got more testosterone than a Belmont in his FIFTIES Grand-crossing hard enough to RIP CHUNKS OF CASTLEVANIA ITSELF apart, nevermind the pieces are actually in the background?

Soma vs Julius (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7IRCuCNIts#)

'bout 1:20 in.
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Gaawa-chan on April 23, 2013, 06:49:32 PM
Dat Julius. And I bet he was feminine when he beat the daylights out of Dracula in 1999.  8)

'bout 1:20 in.

Kind of irritating that you can't link to videos with time-mark thingies on this forum.
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Neobelmont on April 23, 2013, 08:30:59 PM
What's got more testosterone than a Belmont in his FIFTIES Grand-crossing hard enough to RIP CHUNKS OF CASTLEVANIA ITSELF apart, nevermind the pieces are actually in the background?

Soma vs Julius (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7IRCuCNIts#)

'bout 1:20 in.

Can't beat that you just can't...


Dat Julius. And I bet he was feminine when he beat the daylights out of Dracula in 1999.  8)

Kind of irritating that you can't link to videos with time-mark thingies on this forum.

And all the ladies were probably on or after him lucky guy.
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Pfil on April 23, 2013, 10:36:03 PM
Yeah, I said it more than once...
I'd be totally into him, being the mature handsome and elegant man he is.
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Neobelmont on April 23, 2013, 10:37:53 PM
Yeah, I said it more than once...
I'd be totally into him, being the mature handsome and elegant man he is.

Man has style cannot deny that now can I?
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Pfil on April 23, 2013, 11:02:56 PM
Nope  :)
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on April 24, 2013, 01:09:24 AM
Man has style cannot deny that now can I?

Yeah. He would have been so handsome at that time.
Sad to say he had amnesia and did not leave an heir. /boo...
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: uzo on April 24, 2013, 01:12:00 AM
Theres still time ladies. He may be older but I bet he can still take you around the world unlike many others. He's still a Belmont after all.
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Nagumo on April 24, 2013, 02:08:44 AM
I've had little hands-on experience with the Lords of Shadow, but from the outside looking in, I think it's just great that CV's got its testosterone back after all those mapquests starring girls.

Good one, Roman-kun.  :)
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Dark Nemesis on April 24, 2013, 02:19:09 AM
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Dat Julius. And I bet he was feminine when he beat the daylights out of Dracula in 1999.  8)
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg547.imageshack.us%2Fimg547%2F5430%2Faosjulius1999.jpg&hash=68bfd1c5ddae7d1fc925576b18bbce19)
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Abnormal Freak on April 24, 2013, 02:42:48 AM
Did you play Giana Sisters: Twisted Dreams for PC? That's a great game! Beautiful landscapes, great soundtrack, just the right difficulty, complex but retro gameplay... it's the full package!

Waitin' fer the PC DVD to ship. :) Supposed to come with a soundtrack CD and other goodies, is five bucks cheaper than the downloads, but sadly still requires Steam. Ya win some ya lose some.
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Phoenix7786 on April 24, 2013, 03:41:46 AM
Yeah. He would have been so handsome at that time.
Sad to say he had amnesia and did not leave an heir. /boo...

Well you know what they say about older guys who can still Grand Cross well into their fifties...
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Neobelmont on April 24, 2013, 03:45:06 PM
Yeah. He would have been so handsome at that time.
Sad to say he had amnesia and did not leave an heir. /boo...

Just because he had amnesia does not mean he did not have a kid, if it was a case of a coma maybe...And I mean  a big maybe.

Well you know what they say about older guys who can still Grand Cross well into their fifties...

 HOLY POWER

Heavenly Choir - God Speaking - Song / Sound Effect (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgOlgWaFh8Q#ws)
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Gaawa-chan on April 24, 2013, 05:22:38 PM
Just because he had amnesia does not mean he did not have a kid, if it was a case of a coma maybe...And I mean  a big maybe.

He could always have a test tube baby.  :P
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Neobelmont on April 24, 2013, 05:37:11 PM
He could always have a test tube baby.  :P

I have thought of this as well ( opinion aside  and getting older  I just do not like this notion of tube/ sperm banks. Unless you really, really  need to. I prefer the old fashioned way. A man and a woman getting ready for the big moment with no worries just pure, love making ).
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Lelygax on April 24, 2013, 06:18:25 PM
They could clone him, its 2036 after all. xD
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: DragonSlayr81 on April 24, 2013, 07:33:51 PM
Did you play Giana Sisters: Twisted Dreams for PC? That's a great game! Beautiful landscapes, great soundtrack, just the right difficulty, complex but retro gameplay... it's the full package!
I love what Twisted Dreams does in theory. Original Giana Sisters was a TOTAL Mario ripoff, what Twisted Dreams(as well as the DS one) is doing is totally making a identity for itself. And IMO, it works. I haven't played Twisted Dreams yet, but I'm eagerly awaiting it's release on PSN and Wii U.

That kind of gaming shines a little hope in my heart. To see games being released that are generally passion projects, especially nowadays, that are out to do something THEY want to do and not something trend dictates they HAVE to do.... it's just beautiful.

And to echo Abnormal Freak's sentiment, who doesn't enjoy "kiddy fare"? Sometimes it's great to "not take yourself too seriously" and loose yourself in a whimsical, bright imaginative world. It's one of the reasons I'd KILL(LOL) to have a new Kid Dracula game!

I have thought of this as well ( opinion aside  and getting older  I just do not like this notion of tube/ sperm banks. Unless you really, really  need to. I prefer the old fashioned way. A man and a woman getting ready for the big moment with no worries just pure, love making ).
Well, couldn't he have had a kid pre-Demon Castle War. He was 19 in 1999. Anybody think he entered Dracula's Castle as a virgin? I mean, he's a frickin' 19-year old GUY! Young man, horny be thy name!  ;D He could've very well had a girlfriend whom, the night before he set off, slept with. She became pregnant, he lost his memory, years pass, yadda yadda yadda, he never discovers that he fathered a child(Belmont heir). I mean, hell, Gabriel didn't know.
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Lelygax on April 24, 2013, 07:56:02 PM
He could've very well had a girlfriend whom, the night before he set off, slept with. She became pregnant, he lost his memory, years pass, yadda yadda yadda, he never discovers that he fathered a child(Belmont heir). I mean, hell, Gabriel didn't know.

But Gabriel cant Grand Cross so hard like Julius, thats why he didnt knew... (What I just said? LOL)
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Pfil on April 24, 2013, 11:54:51 PM
Waitin' fer the PC DVD to ship. :) Supposed to come with a soundtrack CD and other goodies, is five bucks cheaper than the downloads, but sadly still requires Steam. Ya win some ya lose some.
Soundtrack too! That's SO cool!  :)
Believe me, you will enjoy that game!
And you will curse the final boss  :P

I love what Twisted Dreams does in theory. Original Giana Sisters was a TOTAL Mario ripoff, what Twisted Dreams(as well as the DS one) is doing is totally making a identity for itself. And IMO, it works. I haven't played Twisted Dreams yet, but I'm eagerly awaiting it's release on PSN and Wii U.

That kind of gaming shines a little hope in my heart. To see games being released that are generally passion projects, especially nowadays, that are out to do something THEY want to do and not something trend dictates they HAVE to do.... it's just beautiful.
Yes! I am totally with you!
It's refreshing to find stuff like this, which is new and original but still retro.

And to echo Abnormal Freak's sentiment, who doesn't enjoy "kiddy fare"? Sometimes it's great to "not take yourself too seriously" and loose yourself in a whimsical, bright imaginative world. It's one of the reasons I'd KILL(LOL) to have a new Kid Dracula game!
 Well, couldn't he have had a kid pre-Demon Castle War. He was 19 in 1999. Anybody think he entered Dracula's Castle as a virgin? I mean, he's a frickin' 19-year old GUY! Young man, horny be thy name!  ;D He could've very well had a girlfriend whom, the night before he set off, slept with. She became pregnant, he lost his memory, years pass, yadda yadda yadda, he never discovers that he fathered a child(Belmont heir). I mean, hell, Gabriel didn't know.
The idea of a 19 years old Julius makes me curious...
I'd "kill" (lol) for my dreamed Castlevania, but I'd rather not say what it is, haha!  :P
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Dark Nemesis on April 25, 2013, 03:31:38 AM
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The idea of a 19 years old Julius makes me curious...
I'd "kill" (lol) for my dreamed Castlevania, but I'd rather not say what it is, haha!  :P

You can't start a fire and then leave........we demand the truth......... :P
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on April 25, 2013, 06:57:13 AM
You can't start a fire and then leave........we demand the truth......... :P

Yeah spill the beans. I'm interested in this.  ;D
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Pfil on April 25, 2013, 12:33:25 PM
Haha!  :) I must be the only one crazy enough to think of such a thing.
I remember when Dead or Alive Xtreme 2 came out for the Xbox 360, and I thought: Wow! How cool would it be if they made a Castlevania Xtreme! You know, our beloved characters on the beach, changing costumes...
But with time I've come to imagine an even better game...
Basically it would be another MetroidVania with a female lead and everything we've come to love on GBA and NDS, but with the aggregate of artworks related to the story, according on what you achieved during gameplay. But it's got to be hard to unlock, otherwise it loses its purpose.
Let's say, something like that old PC games, like Cobra Mission or Knights of Xenthar?...
Well, imagine you arrive with Juste at Carmilla's room, and after the fight, depending on your percentage and some items, something happens, and I leave the rest to your imaginations  :P
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Abnormal Freak on April 25, 2013, 12:51:02 PM
Juste grows a pair of boobs while Carmilla shoots them with squirt guns?

'Kay, maybe that's not quite the imagining you were thinking.
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Pfil on April 25, 2013, 02:54:34 PM
Yeah, not quite, haha...
Title: Re: Give it to me straight: is Mirror of Fate a system seller?
Post by: Ahasverus on April 25, 2013, 04:46:43 PM
I always thought 1999's Dracula looked exactly like Mathias, black hair and all,  'cause he was at his full power.