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Title: I can't believe it's not butte-- I MEAN CASTLEVANIA!
Post by: Lumi Kløvstad on February 03, 2016, 01:04:47 PM
So I was doing my thing, just listening to some of my favorite symphonic metal bands that I've loved since High School (Nightwish will never die y'all! *fistpump*), and I noticed that a particular song that came up crazy reminded me of Castlevania Prog Rock in terms of beat and composition -- strip the lyrics and just play the instrumental, and you have a powerful driving song for a Dawn of Sorrow era Castlevania.

The song in question, in case you're interested, is "Here Come The Vultures" by Delain, off their album The Human Contradiction.

But it got me thinking: "what other gems are hiding in my collection that might, by their powers combined, make a kick ass Castlevania soundtrack?"

The end result was a playlist I saved on Spotify as "Making Castlevania", and I'm gonna go to my grave insisting this stuff as the score to a Castlevania game would be positively ace as hell.

The tracks that I chose were as follows:

Quote
Symphonic Metal Section
Here Come the Vultures ~ Delain (of course)
I'm Still Here ~ Amberian Dawn
My Hardest Walk ~ Lunatica
The Siren ~ Nightwish (Tarja Era)
Let Us Burn ~ Within Temptation
Endless Forms Most Beautiful ~ Nightwish (Floor Jansen Era)
Borne In Blood (Original Music Inspired by Bloodborne)
Beckon a Foul Beast ~ Alex Roe
Macabre Respite ~ Alex Roe
Airborne Assault ~ Alex Roe
Illithid Puppeteer ~ Alex Roe
Forsake All Hope ~ Alex Roe
A Heart of Mold ~ Alex Roe
Vile Clot ~ Alex Roe
A Duel For Blood ~ Alex Roe
Hunter's Haven ~ Alex Roe
Classical Music
The Firebird: Infernal Dance of King Kaschei ~ Igor Stravinski
Requiem K. 626: III. Sequentia: Dies irae ~ Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
Suite gothique, OP.25: IV. Toccata ~ Leon Boellmann
Music for Strings, Percussion and Celesta Sz. 106: III. Adagio ~ Bela Bartok
Messa da Requiem: II. Dies irae ~ Giuseppe Verdi
Modern Love Waltz: (Arr. for Two Toy Pianos) ~ Philip Glass
String Quartet No. 8 in C Minor, Op.110: II. Allegro molto ~ Dmitri Shostakovich

Seriously, go look up this music (or preferably the playlist on Spotify as it'll save you tracking it all down on a track by track basis); you could make a killer Castlevania with this sort of music.

I was predominantly driven to make these selections based on the "feel" of the instrumentals and composition. Lyrics were less important (although happy coincidence if they felt thematically appropriate somehow). I referred constantly to a couple of key Castlevania soundtracks as I made my selections for both the Symphonic Metal and the Classical selections, referring all the metal choices to the harsh scrutiny of Harmony of Despair (the soundtrack being one of the few parts of the game I all out liked), and all classical music selections had to compare favorably against the tag team of Lament of Innocence and Curse of Darkness which are in my opinion the absolute high water mark of series soundtracks, bar none.

Alex Roe's "Borne in Blood" made the cut just by being grim and awesome, but then, its inspiration (Bloodborne) was very Castlevania-ish anyway, so it felt a natural fit. They feel like the boss themes of this operation to me; walk into a new room and suddenly the music shifts from the powerful driving of symphonic metal and dark classical to something grim, slow, fatal and baroque, and then the latest hulking nightmare abomination sent by Dracula to stop you lumbers into view -- suddenly you get the impression it's not going down easy.

I now challenge you to create your own Castlevania soundtrack and post it here. Extra points are derived by explaining why you chose what you did and what official soundtracks you compared your selections against (if you did at all).
Title: Re: I can't believe it's not butte-- I MEAN CASTLEVANIA!
Post by: Belmontoya on February 03, 2016, 02:18:12 PM
http://youtu.be/6P_YISMJ4sQ (http://youtu.be/6P_YISMJ4sQ)
Title: Re: I can't believe it's not butte-- I MEAN CASTLEVANIA!
Post by: X on February 04, 2016, 09:39:35 AM
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Here Come The Vultures" by Delain

This does sound very modern Castlevania-ish! I'll have to see about the others later though. Not enough time before work  :P
Title: Re: I can't believe it's not butte-- I MEAN CASTLEVANIA!
Post by: TatteredSeraph on February 04, 2016, 03:55:04 PM
Gackt's debit solo single, 'Mizerable' comes to mind a lt, as he's more or less cosplaying as Alucard in the video, even if the song isn't very Castlevania-y.  His old band, Malice Mizer's song Gekka no Yasoukyoku shares a name with SotN's Japanese name.  MM'S Bara no Seidou, and single Beast of Blood are far more gothic.  They were with Klaha, Gackt's replacement.  The band Versailles are vampire-themed, as is the vocalist Kamijo as a solo artist.  The video for Aristocrat's Symphony is very Castlevania-esque.  Akira's Kirie Toroimen no Shirabe from Vampire Knight is very vampiric.
  For Western music, the German musical Tanz der Vampire is the musical version of Roman Polanski's Fearless Vampire Killers, which works well for the slightly campy, humourous side of Castlevania's rock music style.  I love Pandora's Box's 'Original Sin', which is the basis for the number 'Gott ist Tott'.  The music is all by Rick Steinman, so the melody for 'Total Eclipse of the Heart' is in there too.  It's wonderfully silly, and I especially recommend looking up versions with Marc Liebisch as Herbert von Krolock, the (silver/blond-haired) pretty-boy son of Graaf von Krolock. 
  The Janli Jaggas are also a really good instumental duo who played Castlevania-inspired stuff..  I think I got their music off the old CV Duneon media page years ago....
Title: Re: I can't believe it's not butte-- I MEAN CASTLEVANIA!
Post by: XombieMike on February 04, 2016, 04:00:31 PM
I can't believe it's not Simon Belmont. (Well, I can, but with that title I had to show Fabio with a whip...)

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FsDJKC.jpg&hash=41f8aabae201ed3f7e0384690349abdd)
Title: Re: I can't believe it's not butte-- I MEAN CASTLEVANIA!
Post by: Lelygax on February 15, 2016, 09:12:46 PM
We have a topic about this already that can interest you guys: http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php/topic,3098.240.html (http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php/topic,3098.240.html)
Title: Re: I can't believe it's not butte-- I MEAN CASTLEVANIA!
Post by: Lumi Kløvstad on February 16, 2016, 03:15:49 PM
Quote from: Lelygax on February 15, 2016, 09:12:46 PM
We have a topic about this already that can interest you guys: http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php/topic,3098.240.html (http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php/topic,3098.240.html)

It's been a dead topic for a whole year and Jorge-sempai frowns heavily upon the dark art of Thread Necromancy.
Title: Re: I can't believe it's not butte-- I MEAN CASTLEVANIA!
Post by: VladCT on February 17, 2016, 04:29:43 AM
So this thread is going to replace the old one then? Might as well, I suppose.

By the way, I think Nonaggression is basically this game's Blood Relations. :V
Title: Re: I can't believe it's not butte-- I MEAN CASTLEVANIA!
Post by: X on February 17, 2016, 09:52:17 AM
Whoaw! Good fine VladCT! That's so much like a Castlevania tune that it just seems wrong to hear it in a Sonic game!
Title: Re: I can't believe it's not butte-- I MEAN CASTLEVANIA!
Post by: Lelygax on February 17, 2016, 02:46:15 PM
Quote from: The Bloody Rayne on February 16, 2016, 03:15:49 PM
It's been a dead topic for a whole year and Jorge-sempai frowns heavily upon the dark art of Thread Necromancy.

You can then add a link to the old thread on the first post please? I don't want it to be forgotten and people can check it more easily this way :(
Title: Re: I can't believe it's not butte-- I MEAN CASTLEVANIA!
Post by: Lumi Kløvstad on February 17, 2016, 03:11:57 PM
Quote from: VladCT on February 17, 2016, 04:29:43 AM
So this thread is going to replace the old one then? Might as well, I suppose.

By the way, I think Nonaggression is basically this game's Blood Relations. :V

3 friggin' seconds in and I'm bloody well convinced.

Well chosen!
Title: Re: I can't believe it's not butte-- I MEAN CASTLEVANIA!
Post by: TheTextGuy on February 17, 2016, 09:03:29 PM
Quote from: VladCT on February 17, 2016, 04:29:43 AM
So this thread is going to replace the old one then? Might as well, I suppose.

By the way, I think Nonaggression is basically this game's Blood Relations. :V

At one point while listening to Chaos Angel (act 1 and act 3), I thought the same as well.
The level might itself might as well be a homage to Classicvania games as well, seeing as there are so many bottomless pits  :P
Also why do you think Nonaggression is the game's Blood Relations?  Just wondering, that's all.
Title: Re: I can't believe it's not butte-- I MEAN CASTLEVANIA!
Post by: VladCT on February 17, 2016, 10:09:57 PM
Quote from: TheTextGuy on February 17, 2016, 09:03:29 PM
Also why do you think Nonaggression is the game's Blood Relations?  Just wondering, that's all.
It's more of a context thing, really. Both are dark remixes of a certain character's theme, and both are used in fights against said character.
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Title: Re: I can't believe it's not butte-- I MEAN CASTLEVANIA!
Post by: TheTextGuy on February 17, 2016, 10:27:23 PM
Quote from: VladCT on February 17, 2016, 10:09:57 PM
It's more of a context thing, really. Both are dark remixes of a certain character's theme, and both are used in fights against said character.
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Ah, right!  For some reason I confused Blood Relations with Bloodlines.  Dang, what kind of Castlevania fan am I?  :P
Anyways, I definitely agree.  I like when games use a theme and rearrange it to fit a different context.
Title: Re: I can't believe it's not butte-- I MEAN CASTLEVANIA!
Post by: Perturabo on March 16, 2016, 04:29:57 PM
Mina's Waltz by Rob Lane (https://soundcloud.com/charlesmschneider/minas-waltz-dracula-tv-2013) from NBC's Dracula (2013): sounds a bit like 0:35-0:55 of Crystal Teardrop from SOTN.

United Artists of Hungary's video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tA4BG8GVlQ) with the song makes me think of a room full of respawning ghost dancers.
Title: Re: I can't believe it's not butte-- I MEAN CASTLEVANIA!
Post by: Lumi Kløvstad on March 16, 2016, 04:43:19 PM
Quote from: Perturabo on March 16, 2016, 04:29:57 PM
Mina's Waltz by Rob Lane (https://soundcloud.com/charlesmschneider/minas-waltz-dracula-tv-2013) from NBC's Dracula (2013): sounds a bit like 0:35-0:55 of Crystal Teardrop from SOTN.

United Artists of Hungary's video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tA4BG8GVlQ) with the song makes me think of a room full of respawning ghost dancers.

Those are some good finds, newbie!

I still haven't come across anything as awesome as the playlist in my original post on this thread, but I'm still lookin'.
Title: Re: I can't believe it's not butte-- I MEAN CASTLEVANIA!
Post by: Ratty on March 18, 2016, 10:07:01 AM
It was probably mentioned somewhere in the massive other thread, but the themesong to the long-running "Puppet Master" direct-to-video horror series about killer puppets would fit right into a later Castlevania game. Probably in an enchanted ballroom or dark circus themed area.
Title: Re: I can't believe it's not butte-- I MEAN CASTLEVANIA!
Post by: Perturabo on March 21, 2016, 04:22:27 PM
Morgan King (MDKSound) (http://www.mdksound.com/about) created the soundtrack to the Crystal Story flash game series. One of the songs in Crystal Story II, Ravaged Past (http://mdksound.bandcamp.com/track/ravaged-past), sounds a lot like OoE's An Empty Tome.
Title: Re: I can't believe it's not butte-- I MEAN CASTLEVANIA!
Post by: VladCT on March 27, 2016, 09:34:11 AM

Well, excepting the synth-flute-or-whatever segment, for the most part I would expect to hear this in a CV-esque game, at least.
Title: Re: I can't believe it's not butte-- I MEAN CASTLEVANIA!
Post by: Perturabo on April 27, 2016, 09:05:18 PM
The Spinner's Tale by Blackmore's Night:

The lyrics (http://lyrics.wikia.com/wiki/Blackmore's_Night:The_Spinner's_Tale):

Verse 1 is a scene of Dracula in his chambers, reminiscing about happier times with Lisa or Elisabetha.

The chorus brings to mind flashbacks of his life from before Lament of Innocence and before Dracula's Curse.

In Verse 2, Dracula recognizes that there was a time when he had a good life (third and fourth lines). But he also knows he's about to be killed; the hunters have breached the castle and are coming for him (first and second lines).

The final verse has Dracula considering the effects of his actions. He didn't (and couldn't) have known all of the consequences, but now, even if he wanted to change, this is the only path left to him.
Title: Re: I can't believe it's not butte-- I MEAN CASTLEVANIA!
Post by: KaZudra on April 28, 2016, 04:57:29 AM
Title: Re: I can't believe it's not butte-- I MEAN CASTLEVANIA!
Post by: Perturabo on May 27, 2016, 04:21:13 AM
The truck stage from Super Double Dragon:


Noticed similarities to DoS' Subterranean Hell, especially after listening to Jorge's remix (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5GDCpkdDBc).
Title: Re: I can't believe it's not butte-- I MEAN CASTLEVANIA!
Post by: Lumi Kløvstad on June 01, 2016, 02:51:42 AM
Quote from: Perturabo on May 27, 2016, 04:21:13 AM
The truck stage from Super Double Dragon:


Noticed similarities to DoS' Subterranean Hell, especially after listening to Jorge's remix (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5GDCpkdDBc).

Holy hell I noticed the similarities 8 seconds in!
Title: Re: I can't believe it's not butte-- I MEAN CASTLEVANIA!
Post by: theplottwist on June 27, 2016, 03:59:15 AM
So, after Dracula9 pushed me on an Actraiser streak, I started listening to the game's OST. This track got stuck on my head due to sounding very much like something that would play on a Castlevania game:



I was SURE I was recognizing something in this track from Castlevania, and then it hit me: Yuzo Koshiro composed it. Guess what else he composed?



I didn't even need to research. I was imediately sure this track was Koshiro's.

Title: Re: I can't believe it's not butte-- I MEAN CASTLEVANIA!
Post by: Chernabogue on June 27, 2016, 04:49:20 AM
Quote from: theplottwist on June 27, 2016, 03:59:15 AM
I didn't even need to research. I was imediately sure this track was Koshiro's.
And you're right: http://vgmdb.net/album/4421 (http://vgmdb.net/album/4421)
Title: Re: I can't believe it's not butte-- I MEAN CASTLEVANIA!
Post by: theplottwist on July 06, 2016, 06:18:46 AM
I could easily see something like this on a password screen for an SNES Castlevania.

Title: Re: I can't believe it's not butte-- I MEAN CASTLEVANIA!
Post by: Perturabo on August 06, 2016, 05:56:14 AM
The Japan-exclusive Ryu ga Gotoku Ishin! has a few songs that could fit in Castlevania or even other series. I'm only covering one for now, in case this thread needs another post in September to stay alive.

OST Vol.1, #33: 〜憂・憎・悲・悔〜


Some key parts:
0:00 - 1:49 sounds like the Item Room from Super Metroid.
1:51 - 2:12 is when I'd expect the publisher / developer logos to be displayed.
2:13 - 2:25 is the main menu for a handheld Metroidvania.
2:26 - 2:40 : a few notes resemble Lament of Innocence ~Leon's Theme~ (LoI).
2:41 - 2:46 : Beginning (CV3 and later) and Bowser's Castle from one of the SNES Mario games; I forget which.
3:29 - 4:14 : 1:30-1:55 of Crystal Teardrop (SotN).
Title: Re: I can't believe it's not butte-- I MEAN CASTLEVANIA!
Post by: Super Waffle on February 09, 2017, 06:05:54 PM
http://abicion.tumblr.com/post/157037467402/ (http://abicion.tumblr.com/post/157037467402/)

Is this worth bumping the thread over?
Title: Re: I can't believe it's not butte-- I MEAN CASTLEVANIA!
Post by: Lumi Kløvstad on February 09, 2017, 07:36:59 PM
As far as I'm concerned, this thread is necro-friendly as long as it's being bumped with something relevant.

And that seriously sounds like something from Bloodlines.
Title: Re: I can't believe it's not butte-- I MEAN CASTLEVANIA!
Post by: Ratty on March 14, 2017, 10:20:38 PM
This track from the OST to the hardcore grim dark diablo clone "Inquisitor" wouldn't be too out of place in a Cathedral in Castlevania. I've had the game a few years now but not played it yet. Kind of intimidated, a single playthrough's length is estimated to be around 80-110 hours- and that's just for 1 of the 3 characters who each have a unique storyline/gameplay style. Anyway the OST comes with the game, at least when you buy it on gog https://www.gog.com/game/inquisitor (https://www.gog.com/game/inquisitor) so if you want you can usually snag it cheap when there's a big sale.

Title: Re: I can't believe it's not butte-- I MEAN CASTLEVANIA!
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on March 15, 2017, 01:18:46 AM
I think this dungeon theme from ffxv would also work for CV.

Title: Re: I can't believe it's not butte-- I MEAN CASTLEVANIA!
Post by: X on March 15, 2017, 09:42:57 AM
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I think this dungeon theme from ffxv would also work for CV.

Kinda does too.
Title: Re: I can't believe it's not butte-- I MEAN CASTLEVANIA!
Post by: Lumi Kløvstad on March 17, 2017, 08:40:41 PM
Just listening to the first two measures and I was "yup."
Title: Re: I can't believe it's not butte-- I MEAN CASTLEVANIA!
Post by: VladCT on April 08, 2017, 06:56:47 AM


Kinda feels like JP CV3 with a dash of Rondo, I think.
Title: Re: I can't believe it's not butte-- I MEAN CASTLEVANIA!
Post by: Perturabo on May 09, 2017, 10:25:56 PM
Rebirth by David Orr from the Sonny remake:

Sounds like the opening from AoS' Clock Tower.
Title: Re: I can't believe it's not butte-- I MEAN CASTLEVANIA!
Post by: VladCT on August 24, 2017, 07:53:20 PM
(https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/yugioh/images/f/fb/MonsterReborn-YGLD-EN-C-1E-C.png)
Title: Re: I can't believe it's not butte-- I MEAN CASTLEVANIA!
Post by: Punishment on October 12, 2017, 04:30:57 PM
if this ain't a PS2 3D era CV sounding song then idk what is lol

this game rules btw
Title: Re: I can't believe it's not butte-- I MEAN CASTLEVANIA!
Post by: Perturabo on December 25, 2017, 12:53:32 AM
Castlevania and Miracle of Almana had the same composer, Kinuyo Yamashita. In 2004, Family Computer Best Collection Vol. 2 (EZCD-0008) (https://vgmdb.net/album/14313) was released, and track 16 is a remix of the song from Stages 1, 4, and 6:

I first heard the remix in some homebrew game's soundtrack. It took forever to ID and even longer to find a download, but it can be found at The ISO Zone bundled within "FAMICOM: 20th Anniversary OST Vol.1,2,3 + BONUSES".
Title: Re: I can't believe it's not butte-- I MEAN CASTLEVANIA!
Post by: Super Waffle on November 10, 2019, 08:45:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecbjxB5BC9s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecbjxB5BC9s)
Title: Re: I can't believe it's not butte-- I MEAN CASTLEVANIA!
Post by: KaZudra on November 11, 2019, 05:02:31 AM
Quote from: Super Waffle on November 10, 2019, 08:45:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecbjxB5BC9s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecbjxB5BC9s)
A man of culture I see...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1zkgxaBt9c&t (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1zkgxaBt9c&t)
Title: Re: I can't believe it's not butte-- I MEAN CASTLEVANIA!
Post by: Perturabo on December 07, 2019, 02:08:10 AM
We resurrecting this thread? Okay.

Vincent Moretto covered "Blue Skies" from Ace Combat Infinity:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDEXsswOpkc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDEXsswOpkc)

Parts of it sound like a metal "Moonlight Nocturne" from Symphony of the Night.
Title: Re: I can't believe it's not butte-- I MEAN CASTLEVANIA!
Post by: Lumi Kløvstad on December 13, 2019, 03:23:53 AM
Quote from: Perturabo on December 07, 2019, 02:08:10 AM
We resurrecting this thread? Okay.

For whatever it's worth, as the original mod author, necromancing this thread is totally okay in my book. Have fun kiddos.

Title: Re: I can't believe it's not butte-- I MEAN CASTLEVANIA!
Post by: Perturabo on February 10, 2020, 06:37:49 AM
"One Night in Neo Kobe" from Snatcher:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ofr8qqdZ_f0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ofr8qqdZ_f0)

"Wandering Ghosts" from SotN sounds like a remix of it.