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Title: Devil May Cry 5 - It's About Damn Time!!!
Post by: Claimh Solais on June 10, 2018, 03:05:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1WAXQv5Ztk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1WAXQv5Ztk)

DAMN does that look good! Nero's redesign is very obviously based on the reboot. Looks like they're trying to make a game that both the classic and reboot fans enjoy. Dante is also seen at the very end, looking older than ever.

I HAVE WAITED TOO LONG FOR THIS.

Confirmed for PS4, Xbone, and PC in Spring 2019.

(Also, I'm having a lot of trouble actually embedding the YouTube video, so if someone can edit that for me, I'd love you forever.)

Title: Re: Devil May Cry 5 - It's About Damn Time!!!
Post by: Dracula9 on June 10, 2018, 06:50:55 PM
Dante is also seen at the very end, looking older than ever.

unless they've confirmed the palpatine-looking arm ripper to be dante, dante doesn't show up in that trailer from what my scrutinizing has seen
Title: Re: Devil May Cry 5 - It's About Damn Time!!!
Post by: AlexCalvo on June 10, 2018, 09:00:31 PM
unless they've confirmed the palpatine-looking arm ripper to be dante, dante doesn't show up in that trailer from what my scrutinizing has seen
Then get better at it.  He shows up after the title, when the camera zooms out to show the theater screen.

I am incredibly intrigued, Looks like Nero has hardened up quite a bit, with more than a little influence from Dante it seems.  I dig it.
Title: Re: Devil May Cry 5 - It's About Damn Time!!!
Post by: Dracula9 on June 10, 2018, 09:08:32 PM
huh

you'd think marvel stingers would've taught me by now, lmao

though if his ass is that old, this is probably years post-2

which means this will probably have to acknowledge 2

talk about brass balls
Title: Re: Devil May Cry 5 - It's About Damn Time!!!
Post by: zangetsu468 on June 10, 2018, 10:45:57 PM
I smell a DMC (not DmC) timeline a'cookin...  ;)

In DMC4 Nero isn't an old man, but don't get why he looks younger here... I also wonder what happened to Kyrie?

I'm not sure I like the Bayonetta-style introduction that's all about ramming cars into shit, but I do like the T2 aesthetic of Nero's demonic arm.

And yes, it's about damn time they made 'V'.
Title: Re: Devil May Cry 5 - It's About Damn Time!!!
Post by: VladCT on June 11, 2018, 01:29:47 AM
During the scene where Nero's Devil Bringer got torn off, he did directly call out to Kyrie to get herself to safety, so she's presumably in hiding.

By the way, I'll be honest, Nero's new partner seems kinda obnoxious to me.
Title: Re: Devil May Cry 5 - It's About Damn Time!!!
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on June 11, 2018, 01:39:12 AM


By the way, I'll be honest, Nero's new partner seems kinda obnoxious to me.

You got that right lol, hopefully Capcom has time to tone her obnoxiousness down but it stood out like a sore thumb, I hope we are not going to be hearing a lot from her during the missions.

Over all I'm happy we even got this game announced, been waiting for so long for DMC5 and its finally here, HOWEVER, I'm not sure how I feel about "older" Dante considering Nero still looks pretty young and his is technically only a quarter Demon since Vergil a half demon is his father, so how is it that he has aged better than Dante who looks like he has been aged up by like 20 years since DMC4? Also curious when the story timeline takes place, if this is before DMC2 then Capcom has f*&ked up making Dante look this old considering how he looks in DMC2, and lastly I'm not liking how Dante is not the LEAD in this game, I hate how he is taking a backseat yet again to Nero, I'm fine with Nero having a big part in the story and being playable but I was honestly hoping for Dante to have the reigns as the lead character again.

I'm eager to see more of what Capcom shows us in the future, hopefully some of my worries can be answered.
Title: Re: Devil May Cry 5 - It's About Damn Time!!!
Post by: zangetsu468 on June 11, 2018, 01:41:06 AM
During the scene where Nero's Devil Bringer got torn off, he did directly call out to Kyrie to get herself to safety, so she's presumably in hiding.

This scene has to be a flashback, which would explain why he's now sporting a robotic arm.
Title: Re: Devil May Cry 5 - It's About Damn Time!!!
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on June 11, 2018, 01:51:50 AM
Regarding the arm thing, it seems obvious to me that Vergil is the culprit, after all his story is directly tied to Nero's (for obvious reasons) and it stands to reason that he would want his prized sword back which just so happens to be a part of Nero's Devil Bringer arm hence the reason why he ripped it off.

My guess is he will not be the main villain of the game which will most likely been that demon with the third eye in the trailer but Vergil will definitely be the driving force and secondary antagonist of the game that Nero feels the need to get revenge on, of course the "shocking reveal" will come out when Nero finds out the truth of his parentage.
Title: Re: Devil May Cry 5 - It's About Damn Time!!!
Post by: Dracula9 on June 11, 2018, 11:35:18 AM
My guess is he will not be the main villain of the game which will most likely been that demon with the third eye in the trailer

(https://imgur.com/xPP5APv.png)

this guy?

possibly but i dunno man

i already have some mighty interesting conjectureidences regarding this guy

(click to show/hide)

Title: Re: Devil May Cry 5 - It's About Damn Time!!!
Post by: darkmanx_429 on June 11, 2018, 11:53:18 AM
The thing is, that video clearly shows that is Vergil slamming Nero into the wall and I would assume, he is the one that cut off Nero's arm. But yeah that Nelo Angelo deal is rad. Didn't even notice that!
Title: Re: Devil May Cry 5 - It's About Damn Time!!!
Post by: Gunlord on June 11, 2018, 07:54:26 PM
HELLO DELIVERY

ONE ORDER OF CRAZY PLEASE
Title: Re: Devil May Cry 5 - It's About Damn Time!!!
Post by: zangetsu468 on June 11, 2018, 10:10:29 PM
HELLO DELIVERY

ONE ORDER OF CRAZY PLEASE

With a side of "SLAMDUNK!!!"  8)
Title: Re: Devil May Cry 5 - It's About Damn Time!!!
Post by: Aiddon on June 12, 2018, 06:50:01 PM
Rant warning

....Okay, I need to get this out. -DEEEEEEEP BREATH-

**** THE ATTEMPTED REBOOT, **** NINJA THEORY, **** TAMEEM ANTONIADES, **** KEIJI INAFUNE AND HIS TOXIC “MUST WESTERNIZE EVERYTHING!” PHILOSOPHY THAT WAS BORN FROM HIS INSECURITIES, **** THAT GAME’S ****** BROCIALIST “SOCIAL COMMENTARY” THAT JUST REPEATS CRAP PRIVILEGED WHITE BOYS PREACH TO MAKE THEMSELVES SOUND MORE REBELLIOUS THAN THEY ACTUALLY ARE, AND **** THE MEMBERS OF THE PRESS WHO ENABLED AND SHILLED THAT DERAILMENT IN THE FIRST PLACE (LOOKING AT YOU, JIM STERLING)!!!!

Whooo, okay, I’m good, I’m done, that game is buried and was executed on stage in spectacular fashion, no doubt with Antoniades seething like a manchild. It can no longer hurt anyone or anything ever again. I’m just glad Nero and Dante are back. Anyway, thoughts:

Overall, it looks good, but the art style leaves something to be desired. It seems that CAPCOM is still shaking off Inafune’s toxic “must Westernize everything!” philosophy and it really comes off like they’re afraid of pissing off all twelve people who bought the misbegotten reboot attempt thus leading to identity crisis (though on reflection it looks more like Resident Evil at times). I'm alright with Nero's new design overall, but I think they should have made the character look more inline with DMC4.

Demon design looks alright, but it’s like they’re taking heavily from Dark Souls. Also don’t like the contemporary setting because DMC’s intentional anachronism gave it a timeless quality. I actually thought this was a Resident Evil game when it first came up until the music started kicking in.

Still, Nero is back and as charming as ever (JOHNNY!) and gameplay looks good, back to what the series is known for. Writing is back to normal (though Nico seems more like a Bayonetta character) so hopefully Dante shows us his quirks again. However, where the hell are Lady and Trish? C’mon, CAPCOM, they were AWESOME in DMC 4: SE. Still, I’m hopeful
Title: Re: Devil May Cry 5 - It's About Damn Time!!!
Post by: VladCT on June 12, 2018, 08:51:46 PM
However, where the hell are Lady and Trish? C’mon, CAPCOM, they were AWESOME in DMC 4: SE. Still, I’m hopeful
Well, if predictions of this game happening after DMC2 are correct, at least one of these two might be kind of... dead.
Title: Re: Devil May Cry 5 - It's About Damn Time!!!
Post by: Claimh Solais on June 13, 2018, 03:21:31 AM
Well, if predictions of this game happening after DMC2 are correct, at least one of these two might be kind of... dead.

Did I miss something?
Title: Re: Devil May Cry 5 - It's About Damn Time!!!
Post by: VladCT on June 13, 2018, 04:34:42 AM
Well, theories abound that Trish is implied to be dead in DMC2, which in turn is implied to be the cause why Dante is a bit more... subdued in that game. As for Playable Trish in DMC2, apparently that's non-canon.
Title: Re: Devil May Cry 5 - It's About Damn Time!!!
Post by: zangetsu468 on June 13, 2018, 06:37:18 AM
@Aiddon I agree about the Westernisation of characters' appearances being bothersome. Nero has a whole Chad Michael Murray/ David Boreans thing going on and I don't get it. If they'd taken DMC4 and given him the shorter hair but with stubble it would actually feel like the same character. Since Street Fighter IV there's been a spate of Americanisation in game graphics which I frankly never understood.


The gameplay actually looks decent, I'm not sure anything is going to beat DMC4SE for me, but I'd certainly give it a go.
Title: Re: Devil May Cry 5 - It's About Damn Time!!!
Post by: Aiddon on June 13, 2018, 10:54:52 PM
Info taken from a couple interviews conducted by Microsoft and Inside XBox. https://mixer.com/Xbox?vod=38224649 (https://mixer.com/Xbox?vod=38224649) (starts 3h53m) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyLsYii7wOE&t (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyLsYii7wOE&t)

Some highlights (and info from the Japanese Twitter feed):

-The man at the beginning of the trailer is none other than Morrison from the DMC anime (seriously, apparently they changed his race) so the anime is indeed canon

-The crux of the city is about a giant demon tree growing in Redgrave City (the city clearly is meant to evoke Dante's old alias Tony Redgrave)

-The demon at the beginning among fountains of blood is of course a major villain. According to Itsuno he's 26 feet tall and according to Twitter he's an emperor of demons

-Like the end of the DMC4 novelization Nero was gifted a Devil May Cry sign by Dante and has opened his own branch of the DMC business. His is mobile, the van being the actual office and even has a reception area.

-The woman with Nero is Nico, a weaponsmith who designed his prosthetic Devil Breaker arms. Her grandmother is Nell Goldstein, a gunsmith. Nell was actually a character in a non-canon novel who designed Ebony & Ivory.

-Nero will acquire several different Devil Breakers throughout the game and they all have different abilities. Ones revealed have abilities similar to the Devil Bringer (the classic Snatch and Buster abilities), another is rocket-infused allowing Nero to it launch at enemies and keep them in a juggled state and he can even ride the rocket like a skateboard, yet another is electricity-infused so he can strike with an electric punch or charge a scatter shot that ricochets around, and yet another gives him the ability to slow enemies. Overall these seem to be the equivalent of Dante's Styles system

-The Breakers deteriorate and Nero replaces them with spares he carries. This doesn't affect gameplay and is just an attention to detail.

-Nero appears to now have a shotgun in his arsenal (60 second mark of the Inside XBox video)

-Sins from DMC3 return

-Playable at GamesCom and will have more info about the Breakers

-There will be an event detailing more of the game on June 20: https://twitter.com/devilmaycry_jp/status/1007078193529016320 (https://twitter.com/devilmaycry_jp/status/1007078193529016320)
 
-The theme playing during the trailer is called "Devil Trigger" by Ali Edwards and is now available: https://twitter.com/DevilMayCry/status/1006581905112883206 (https://twitter.com/DevilMayCry/status/1006581905112883206)

Its music video has hints to the third playable character (revealed in a leak to be named V)
Title: Re: Devil May Cry 5 - It's About Damn Time!!!
Post by: zangetsu468 on June 14, 2018, 04:39:10 AM
another is rocket-infused allowing Nero to it launch at enemies and keep them in a juggled state and he can even ride the rocket like a skateboard,
Pandora

yet another is electricity-infused so he can strike with an electric punch or charge a scatter shot that ricochets around
Lucifer

Now all we need is a Gilgamesh equivalent

Its music video has hints to the third playable character (revealed in a leak to be named V)
Vergil.. Poetic that "V" would be the hidden character in 5
Title: Re: Devil May Cry 5 - It's About Damn Time!!!
Post by: Aiddon on June 14, 2018, 04:15:07 PM
Vergil.. Poetic that "V" would be the hidden character in 5

No, V is clearly NOT Vergil. They're seen on the cover and have black hair with their arms covered in tribal tattoos. Plus in a leak they're said to summon demonic bodyguards, which isn't even close to Vergil's personal style.

Anyway, Famitsu interview detailing some things:

https://www.famitsu.com/news/201806/14159103.html (https://www.famitsu.com/news/201806/14159103.html)

Highlights include:

-The Devil Breakers degrade and will need to be replaced (WHY????????) by buying them from Nico.

-They're being very coy about the new playable character, not even clarifying gender but have some hints in the music video for the song played during the trailer. They'll include Easter Eggs throughout promotional material
Title: Re: Devil May Cry 5 - It's About Damn Time!!!
Post by: Dracula9 on June 14, 2018, 08:15:07 PM
-The Devil Breakers degrade and will need to be replaced (WHY????????) by buying them from Nico.

because unlike BASICALLY every other weapon in the series they're not magic demon weapons with infinite durability?
Title: Re: Devil May Cry 5 - It's About Damn Time!!!
Post by: KaZudra on June 14, 2018, 08:55:55 PM
The time has come and so have I
Title: Re: Devil May Cry 5 - It's About Damn Time!!!
Post by: VladCT on June 14, 2018, 09:15:58 PM
-The Breakers deteriorate and Nero replaces them with spares he carries. This doesn't affect gameplay and is just an attention to detail.
-The Devil Breakers degrade and will need to be replaced (WHY????????) by buying them from Nico.
Hang on, is there some sort of miscommunication going on here?
Title: Re: Devil May Cry 5 - It's About Damn Time!!!
Post by: Aiddon on June 14, 2018, 09:33:59 PM
because unlike BASICALLY every other weapon in the series they're not magic demon weapons with infinite durability?

I meant from a gameplay standpoint. That's...just awkward. It's pointless micromanagement, which is detrimental to a game like DMC where you're supposed to be thinking as little as possible. Plus even saying "well they're not demon-made"  doesn't work either because that doesn't explain why Lady is still using Kalina Ann for over a decade (probably close to twenty years at this point). And Devil Arms have been broken; as we saw with DMC4 Yamato is broken before Nero wills it back together. Players are willing to suspend disbelief for good reasons, especially for something as fantastical as DMC
Title: Re: Devil May Cry 5 - It's About Damn Time!!!
Post by: Kingshango on June 14, 2018, 10:59:44 PM
Waited 10 years for this and im glad the Itsuno is back at the helm. :)

Can't wait to play as Grandpa Dante.
Title: Re: Devil May Cry 5 - It's About Damn Time!!!
Post by: Aiddon on June 16, 2018, 01:58:25 PM
Full translation of the Famitsu interview:

https://dm.reddit.com/r/DevilMayCry/comments/8rjw7k/full_translation_of_famitsu_interview/?st=jihutddw&sh=b6c093a7
Title: Re: Devil May Cry 5 - It's About Damn Time!!!
Post by: zangetsu468 on June 16, 2018, 06:09:27 PM
Full translation of the Famitsu interview:

https://dm.reddit.com/r/DevilMayCry/comments/8rjw7k/full_translation_of_famitsu_interview/?st=jihutddw&sh=b6c093a7

"We particularly focused on making good-looking characters so we modeled the characters after real fashion models to create a stylish DMC that is also realistic."

That explains why Dante looks like a heroine addict
Title: Re: Devil May Cry 5 - It's About Damn Time!!!
Post by: Dracula9 on June 16, 2018, 06:34:01 PM
That explains why Dante looks like a heroine addict

a heroine addict

please tell me this is a deliberate pun
Title: Re: Devil May Cry 5 - It's About Damn Time!!!
Post by: zangetsu468 on June 16, 2018, 06:48:02 PM
please tell me this is a deliberate pun

You're a well-informed and confident individual D9, surely someone of your calibre does not require my positive affirmation ;)
Title: Re: Devil May Cry 5 - It's About Damn Time!!!
Post by: Aiddon on June 16, 2018, 07:59:14 PM
"We particularly focused on making good-looking characters so we modeled the characters after real fashion models to create a stylish DMC that is also realistic."

That explains why Dante looks like a heroine addict

Hey, he's been in the Demon World for awhile and it's very rough there. Get him a pizza and a strawberry sundae he'll be right as rain. Hell, I half expect his intro in DMC5 to be him drifting into the nearest parlor's counter and going "One large supreme!" before heading over to an ice cream parlor for dessert.

Anyway, Dante's model confirmed his involvement:

https://www.instagram.com/cowieadam/ (https://www.instagram.com/cowieadam/)

That man...makes me feel very inadequate. Which is how Dante should be. It was probably just a weird mix of lighting and camera angles that made him look weird. Reuben is still voicing and mo-capping Dante though, confirmed by Nero's actor Johnny Yong Bosch.
Title: Re: Devil May Cry 5 - It's About Damn Time!!!
Post by: zangetsu468 on June 16, 2018, 08:45:34 PM
@Aiddon It could partly be the lighting and the darker hair. Perhaps this was done on purpose and/ or he's the allegory for the Adrenaline "junkie". Right now he's old af though.

I hope they refine the characters' features a bit prior to release. I'm not loving Nero's facial features either, but the graphics themselves look fine.
Title: Re: Devil May Cry 5 - It's About Damn Time!!!
Post by: darkmanx_429 on June 17, 2018, 10:12:47 AM
Please bring back Lucia!
Title: Re: Devil May Cry 5 - It's About Damn Time!!!
Post by: Aiddon on June 19, 2018, 12:22:51 PM
Next episode of CAPCOM TV will feature DMC5. Perhaps they'll show something new:

https://wccftech.com/devil-may-cry-5-livestream/
Title: Re: Devil May Cry 5 - It's About Damn Time!!!
Post by: Inccubus on June 21, 2018, 05:05:22 PM
Damn. Megaman 11 and Devil May Cry 5? Capcom is redeemed!
Title: Re: Devil May Cry 5 - It's About Damn Time!!!
Post by: Aiddon on August 21, 2018, 12:37:29 PM
Gamescom is going on right now and with it comes a brand new trailer. Dante shows up at the end again. With a surprise:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gBESLaqXFs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gBESLaqXFs)
Title: Re: Devil May Cry 5 - It's About Damn Time!!!
Post by: Lumi Kløvstad on August 21, 2018, 04:11:43 PM
So I spotted Sin Scissors from the first Devil May Cry, what looked like some of the Deadly Sins from 3, and what looked a lot like the Argonifinis enemies from Devil May Cry 2. The new bosses have tons of visual design cues from Devil May Cry 2 and 4. Dante's still rocking his hairstyle from Devil May Cry 2. If it hasn't been explicitly stated that this is finally a proper sequel to 2, the writing seems especially on the wall here.

If another trailer comes out and has Lucia in it, I might just fangasm to death because she was the only good part of Devil May Cry 2 and it kills me that she and Dante both got left on a cliffhanger ending for 15 years so far.

Also Nero's face looks eerily like Punk Rock American Eleventh Doctor to me. It's just weird.
Title: Re: Devil May Cry 5 - It's About Damn Time!!!
Post by: Aiddon on August 21, 2018, 05:25:51 PM
15 minutes of direct feed gameplay:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmZdyeCRgus (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmZdyeCRgus)
Title: Re: Devil May Cry 5 - It's About Damn Time!!!
Post by: Aiddon on September 20, 2018, 12:40:24 PM
TGS Trailer showcasing Dante and revealing V, the third playable character:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKp1Hy0pjtw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKp1Hy0pjtw)

Also a trailer for the Mega Buster:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t21LtTI0QHg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t21LtTI0QHg)
Title: Re: Devil May Cry 5 - It's About Damn Time!!!
Post by: VladCT on September 20, 2018, 12:52:50 PM
Huh, so Trish is still alive after all.
Title: Re: Devil May Cry 5 - It's About Damn Time!!!
Post by: Lumi Kløvstad on September 20, 2018, 02:28:05 PM
I have to admit, while I loved Ninja Theory's alternate take on the mythos... godDAMN does it ever feel good to be back with the old crew.
Title: Re: Devil May Cry 5 - It's About Damn Time!!!
Post by: Aiddon on September 20, 2018, 05:24:33 PM
Huh, so Trish is still alive after all.

Well duh, she's been alive.

What I find most interesting is that the game is going for a William Blake motif. Everyone has at least heard of his poem "The Tyger" (Tyger, Tyger, burning bright). V is reciting from Blake's book "The Marriage of Heaven and Hell" which is written like Biblical prophecy.
Title: Re: Devil May Cry 5 - It's About Damn Time!!!
Post by: zangetsu468 on September 20, 2018, 09:22:54 PM
Basically Nero's become Guts #armcanon and Dante's not a crack addict but has aged somewhat. Trish and Lady still looking young.

I'm not really liking Nero's face, it's a bit one tree hill. Oh well.
Title: Re: Devil May Cry 5 - It's About Damn Time!!!
Post by: Aiddon on September 22, 2018, 02:47:30 PM
A bunch of gameplay footage of Dante.

https://gematsu.com/2018/09/devil-may-cry-5-tgs-2018-dante-gameplay (https://gematsu.com/2018/09/devil-may-cry-5-tgs-2018-dante-gameplay)

The IGN one was actually up last night, but was taken down (probably because they broke an embargo). It was uploaded again, but actually had some cut scenes omitted, which I won't spoil but they do confirm when and how Dante gets the motorcycle Devil Arm.

CAPCOM also did a presentation talking about the game and even had Nico's Japanese VA as a guest. They also confirmed all the Japanese VAs will reprise their roles (even Morrison and Kyrie):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpRiBn3Hi0c& (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpRiBn3Hi0c&)
Title: Re: Devil May Cry 5 - It's About Damn Time!!!
Post by: Aiddon on December 07, 2018, 08:23:20 PM
Well, the Video Game Awards have come and went (bleh), but there were a few good announcements. Like the DMCV trailer debuting V:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHPAnj_Lcbo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHPAnj_Lcbo)
Title: Re: Devil May Cry 5 - It's About Damn Time!!!
Post by: KaZudra on December 12, 2018, 11:51:54 PM
Nice to see that the leaks were just the 2nd trailer.
Also, Dante's weapons are getting crazy.

In fact this game looks insane and I can't wait to play it.