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Re: The most powerful character
« Reply #75 on: December 11, 2007, 10:30:48 PM »
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LOL! I seen CG renders at DeviantArt that look better than that render. Though, I'm lead to believe that THAT specific art of Female Dracula was meant to be a sorta concept art/prototype. If you view the trailer, they show a vampire woman(you really don't see her much, mostly just silhouette) who has her hair down. She reminds me of Elizabeth Bartley. THAT design kinda looked alright(though we didn't really see it too well). The whole "I don't know if I'm a vampire or some bride of Frankenstein wannabe?" thing was just too horrible to even be considered a design for Castlevania. I'd like to think(LIKE to think) that the CG designers were just farting around with the programs.

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Re: The most powerful character
« Reply #76 on: December 11, 2007, 10:35:51 PM »
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Actually, according to Lament, Death is owned by the holder of the Crimson stone, and Dracula owns him. So he can't be the best.

Not to mention, Death mightnot be Death. He might just be a demon that took the name of Death.

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Re: The most powerful character
« Reply #77 on: December 11, 2007, 11:11:39 PM »
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Actually, according to Lament, Death is owned by the holder of the Crimson stone, and Dracula owns him. So he can't be the best.

Not to mention, Death mightnot be Death. He might just be a demon that took the name of Death.

I've never heard that before is it stated in LOI cuz I may have just missed it.  :)
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Re: The most powerful character
« Reply #78 on: December 11, 2007, 11:16:06 PM »
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IIRC, Death says it at the very end, when he "betrays" Walter.

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Re: The most powerful character
« Reply #79 on: December 11, 2007, 11:50:26 PM »
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ah okay, it's been so long since I've played it I'd totally forgotten.
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Re: The most powerful character
« Reply #80 on: December 11, 2007, 11:51:00 PM »
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Well, I couldve remembered wrong, god knows I have a terrible memory.

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Re: The most powerful character
« Reply #81 on: December 11, 2007, 11:53:22 PM »
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I'd check but I recently accidentally broke my ps2 when I was trying to mod it and I have to buy a new one.  :-[
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Re: The most powerful character
« Reply #82 on: December 12, 2007, 01:18:37 AM »
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It's Mathias who betrays Walter, not Death. Mathias had a deal of some sort with Walter (Walter mentions at one point "It's just like that knight said" and death is no knight), and what other deal could walter want than immortality?

The way I see it, Mathias made a deal with Walter, so that once he does everything according to his master plan he'll have his eternal servant, Death, forget about him and his soul, thus letting him resurrect once he dies.

Of course Mathias had no plans to keep his promise, since he needed the soul of a powerful vampire. And then there's that whole silly "egg" animation which was more than likely supposed to symbolise the rebirth of Mathias as a vampire.

Anyway I still stand by my decision, Death is the most powerful. Even if Dracula owns him, he only owns his earthly manifestation. Once Drac dies in 1999 I guess he also has a non-planned meeting with mr. bonehead.
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Re: The most powerful character
« Reply #83 on: December 12, 2007, 02:10:44 AM »
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It's Mathias who betrays Walter, not Death. Mathias had a deal of some sort with Walter (Walter mentions at one point "It's just like that knight said" and death is no knight), and what other deal could walter want than immortality?

The way I see it, Mathias made a deal with Walter, so that once he does everything according to his master plan he'll have his eternal servant, Death, forget about him and his soul, thus letting him resurrect once he dies.

Of course Mathias had no plans to keep his promise, since he needed the soul of a powerful vampire. And then there's that whole silly "egg" animation which was more than likely supposed to symbolise the rebirth of Mathias as a vampire.

Anyway I still stand by my decision, Death is the most powerful. Even if Dracula owns him, he only owns his earthly manifestation. Once Drac dies in 1999 I guess he also has a non-planned meeting with mr. bonehead.

Thanks Serio, okay so it's not the stone that controls death it's Mathias himself. Hmm I hope this is explained in a later game. I think it'd be cool if Mathias made a deal with the devil or something. :)
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Re: The most powerful character
« Reply #84 on: December 12, 2007, 02:14:00 AM »
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I know I have a bad memory, but I am very sure Death said he served the holder of teh Crimson stone, that could either mean he serves the one who holds it or Dracula, who holds it.

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Re: The most powerful character
« Reply #85 on: December 12, 2007, 02:17:10 AM »
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Yeah, I didn't mean Death was controlled by Mathias just because. I didn't mention the stone bit since it wasn't relevant to what i was saying.

The eternal servant part was just taken from one of the games' descriptions. :P

Perhaps what i said was a bit vague too, since i used too many 'he's.

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The way I see it, Mathias made a deal with Walter, so that once he (Walter) does everything according to his (Mathias's) master plan he'll (Mathias) have his eternal servant, Death, forget about him (Walter) and his soul, thus letting him (Walter) resurrect once he dies.

Hence Walter being so sure he'll be able to resurrect. I don't think anyone in the cv realm can just cheat Death and resurrect, with Drac being an exception since he controls Death.

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Re: The most powerful character
« Reply #86 on: December 12, 2007, 02:19:44 AM »
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Yeah, I didn't mean Death was controlled by Mathias just because. I didn't mention the stone bit since it wasn't relevant to what i was saying.

The eternal servant part was just taken from one of the games' descriptions. :P

Perhaps what i said was a bit vague too, since i used too many 'he's.

Hence Walter being so sure he'll be able to resurrect. I don't think anyone in the cv realm can just cheat Death and resurrect, with Drac being an exception since he controls Death.

:P

oh okay thanks.
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Re: The most powerful character
« Reply #87 on: December 12, 2007, 07:44:09 AM »
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The answer is obvious. Despite his numerous defeats - Dracula.


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Re: The most powerful character
« Reply #88 on: December 12, 2007, 03:05:45 PM »
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Gaaah! So much arguement on the most powerful character. You know what? I think Vincent Dorin is the most powerful character! There!
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Re: The most powerful character
« Reply #89 on: December 12, 2007, 09:13:03 PM »
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Chuck Norris.

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