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The Castlevania Dungeon Forums => Fan Stuff => Topic started by: Zydalc on January 10, 2015, 05:30:34 PM
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Hello everyone, I've been delving into the realm of fan games lately and here's a question in my mind that I'm always wondering...
Is there any existing Castlevania fan games that have female leads or is there one in the works? Also especially if there's any of them that actually features (especially female) vampire protagonists. Since we already have enough male protagonists in the series don't you think?
Well I have several ideas for a Castlevania fan game....
1. Reintroducing Sonia Belmont actually being the first belmont during the 15th century.
2. I think this is similar to Castlevania the Lecarde Chronicles (but plays more like "Symphony of the Night" since the protagonist is actual full Vampire) but with a different theme centering around Joseph Sheridan Le Fanu's "Carmilla" where you actually play as Carmilla (I think she can be 'modeled' after Stella except with she has a Victorian style black, off the shoulder dress with a V waistline, black boots (if visible) and she has long dark hair like Shaona, of course she has her powers from the book including Bram Stoker's Dracula like turning into a wolf, bat, mist, etc combined not to mention shadow manipulation, blood sorcery, etc and of course she'll get as powerful as Dracula later in the game...) where she returns to her old family castle for revenge against her other Aristocratic Vampiric (well maybe some of them are Vampires but some of them could be also Werewolves, Ghosts, etc) family members who betrayed her centuries ago.
Thoughts?
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hey, sounds great, I like the idea of playing as carmilla :D
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Yep, the Carmilla idea is pretty original.
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I saw your ''concept'' and whipped this up real quick.
Hope its okay. ;)
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I saw your ''concept'' and whipped this up real quick.
Hope its okay. ;)
Thank you very much and it's very good sprite there...
I wonder if you plan on animating her more? Or maybe a high res version? while everything is almost perfect I have several suggestions maybe you could make a 'long hair' variation (but then again, during the earlier centuries like the 19th century for example, women displaying long hair was considered childish which maybe it's best if her is 'short' or 'pulled up' to look professional) and also maybe you could add a V waistline and not to mention a 'sweetheart' neckline of her dress? Since her main 'theme' is a victorian gothic stlye "femme fatale" (since she is a vampire) look since I would consider her a "Dark Action Anti-Heroine (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DarkActionGirl)" as a perfect way to describe her...
Well I think forgot to describe Carmilla's personality, well unlike Dracula she is less hammy but more cold, calm collected, if she had a voice, I could imagine her being very soothingly low pitched and husky (almost seductive...) that also sounds professional and well educated (like a 'proper lady') like as if she's a diplomat first and then violence if the former fails (she's more "tranquil fury") but under Castlevania's case, I could might as well picture having the exact same or similar personality as Alucard from SOTN was and especially diplomacy would commonly fail in Castlevania so she has to resort to violence most of the time like all the other player characters.
Well as for her sexuality...well just like the novel she's commonly a lesbian who prefers women (since she also drinks blood from and it's more likely she'll turn them into vampires than men...) but also can be 'bisexual' (but rather she's omnisexual) if she wanted intercourse with a man and also drink their blood (since I could imagine her attending ballroom dances to do so which she first dances with a man, takes him to her quarters, has sex with him, and finally drink his blood after ejaculation (or sometimes during intercourse..), and repeat if she desired) like as if sexual promiscuity is her 'preferred' way of feeding when she's not in 'combat' situations but maybe somewhere in the game though it could be demonstrated with a "Ballroom" themed level which she dances/waltzes with one of the characters (or could be the level's boss or maybe Dracula himself...and them waltzing in the air like the SNES Castlevania 4 dancing specters) and they have a conversation while dancing before the 'music' is over and they back away and the boss battle begins (maybe not like the character she dances with since he 'vanishes' especially if it's Dracula himself or the game's main antagonist and has the level's boss take over). Also lastly...since the Castle is monster/demon filled, I think Carmilla wouldn't even mind having sex with them as well...(hint...if the monster has tentacles...).
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Castlevania fan games with Female (or even Vampire) leads?
I say why the hell not. Patriarchy and Sexism are way too overrated and I'm really f**k 'in tired of it. Give me a CV game that stars a woman Belmont or even your idea of a Vampire, like Carmilla, would be interesting.
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I say why the hell not. Patriarchy and Sexism are way too overrated and I'm really f**k 'in tired of it. Give me a CV game that stars a woman Belmont or even your idea of a Vampire, like Carmilla, would be interesting.
I agree which I have the same thought in mind because I'm also tired of it as well.
You speaking of a woman belmont and mixing Carmilla together especially fitting the "Laura" character in without having her as a damsel in distress...what about Laura Belmont who goes to hunt down Dracula as what her bloodline does best (well staying true to the novel with slight alteration, her father (a previous Belmont who killed Dracula before) trains her to be a vampire killer) but she runs in to Carmilla which Laura firsts sees her as a enemy because she's a vampire but later on they become friends and eventually lovers (just like in the novel)...and they hunt down and kill Dracula together.
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hey!! I also want to participate :D, here is my sprite, but I'm having problems with hair :-X
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edit: The sprite looks very good although someone else also already made a sprite (http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php/topic,7759.msg172675.html#msg172675) though of course the one inside the link looks more or closely 'historically accurate' with the off the shoulder neckline since just a sweetheart is only more modern however which maybe it could be used for modern settings but hmmm.
Maybe you could make another variation with a off-the-shoulder but still keeping the sweetheart neckline?
or else maybe just a sweetheart neckline is a very good reason for freely moving her arms around...
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Something like that? Well, take the sprite donoffrio :P, the truth is that I also seem better design the dress, I hope there is no problem, and hope you like also to donoffrio, whatever, as it is only a sketch to give ideas, as they I really i do not would end :-X
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Something like that? Well, take the sprite donoffrio :P, the truth is that I also seem better design the dress, I hope there is no problem, and hope you like also to donoffrio, whatever, as it is only a sketch to give ideas, as they I really i do not would end :-X
Yep, of course though if you look at this (http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php/topic,3650.msg172667.html#msg172667) I've also posted it should give you clearer idea if not you've have already seen it since the theme I'm going for is a late (1870s/1880s) Victorian gothic style.
I was also wondering if you could add some further detail like making her 'off the shoulder' ridges more distinctly visible and plus a visible V waistline.
Well lastly, maybe you could also continue developing your original sprite you first posted as another 'skin' variation (but maybe add a visible "V" waistline) which maybe you could decide which version you want to go or use both (but it'll be extra work though however).
edit: I think you forgot to add a ridge on her left arm in that sprite.
BTW her "Off the Shoulder sweetheart" neckline could resemble alot like these as a extra concept:
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The shading on the dress is waaay too detailed by SOTN sprite standards IMO.
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The shading on the dress is waaay too detailed by SOTN sprite standards IMO.
Well sometimes it can be considered a 'graphical update' sort of as one way of looking at things.
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ready Zidalc, here are two models of dress, :) and thanks donnofrio and sorry again am using your sprite, no problem? :P certainly, I do not think I can do the moves, right now I'm in a compromise, and in fact I'm taking with them, almost i'm not on the pc, i clarify that it is only to give an idea, I hope I do not look bad with you
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ready Zidalc, here are two models of dress, :) and thanks donnofrio and sorry again am using your sprite, no problem? :P certainly, I do not think I can do the moves, right now I'm in a compromise, and in fact I'm taking with them, almost i'm not on the pc, i clarify that it is only to give an idea, I hope I do not look bad with you
Nice work on the sprites, I think I would go with number 1 since she almost clearly has a visible V waistline which you could make even more visible.
As for her moves...maybe someone else can do it? Or maybe you could attempt it?
If someone can do the moves, here's a better description: I think running, walking, jumping should be basic (maybe you could watch videos of how women in ball gown dresses move about), of course she can also float in the air, as for her attacks she like Alucard uses swords, axes, crossbows, even muskets/flintlock pistols, not to mention her magical based attacks she uses (like Dracula style fireballs, swarm bat teleporting, etc) not to mention her shape shifting forms (well let's say during the beginning of the game, she has abilities from the novel like transforming into a panther but over time she gains the abilities of turning into mist, wolf, bat (and bat swarms, etc) and Demon form...which is a nude demon lady I imagine her 'pose' would look alot like this this (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8524/8574238559_d66b15f449_c.jpg) as the "closest" depiction but except it's not Sarah Kerrigan though and her appearance would have, dark blue skin, and of course unlike the picture linked which I would say 'why not' is visible nipples since nudity has been done before in Castlevania, etc), shadow tentacles around her body or summoning demons/undead/shadows/hellfire, blood drinking modes (I think drinking blood from different enemies has different effects like human blood her health replenishes, drinking from magical creatures not only replenishes her healthy but also the 'mana' system, there's some blood that 'poisons' her that drains her health (like in Blood Omen), or sometimes Vampire and Demon blood is like the 'ultra health' in the game. Also I think she can also grow bat wings behind her back which she can fly around (not to mention turning into a single bat like Alucard), not to mention she can scale walls or alternative method of flight is floating freely in the air like a ghost.
Well speaking of nudity...from the discussion from this thread (http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php/topic,7763.0.html), maybe you could also attempt a nude version sprite of her especially her blood covered after she raises from her blood soaked tomb which you play as her nude first (or maybe a cutscene...) before donning the black ballgown type dress she wears for the rest of the game (maybe there could be a ingame story reason why she wears the ballgown which might have something to do with her past since the novel mentions a ball which this element can be used).
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sounds very nice, and very good ideas :D, but as I say, I dont could work so hard, and now I'm with another commitment, it is only a proposal, and if someone offers, I could also make some sprites, but clarified that is much package for me :-X... fix the shoulder and redial the V
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sounds very nice, and very good ideas :D, but as I say, I dont could work so hard, and now I'm with another commitment, it is only a proposal, and if someone offers, I could also make some sprites, but clarified that is much package for me :-X... fix the shoulder and redial the V
Perfect, maybe we can settle in with this sprite as her 'final' design unless you want to do some further polishing which is up to you.
Then again if someone does her movements, I wonder how it would work...either she'll somehow do normal movement or she'll hover around like Stella and Loretta...
Then again maybe the dress itself can be animated for her movements? Also maybe it's best if she had no restrictive undergarments either (except for a corset/bodice) which would make her move easier (except for victorian style boots if they become visible?) especially she's a vampire she doesn't really need them.
Edit: Oh maybe you could also do Laura which she'll might be the easiest because she'll look much like a traditional belmont or vampire killer would for example something similar to this: http://www.deviantart.com/art/Thori-Belmont-422580021 (http://www.deviantart.com/art/Thori-Belmont-422580021) But maybe a more Victorian version of that, which she has brown long hair. Or maybe she'll wear a long coat, trousers, vest, etc. hmmm....
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Something like this? the truth I like more with the dress, as it is not their style jacket and pants, the boots can see in the jumping and running, under her dress, perhaps this clothes is more suitable for laura, the colors can be changed
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Something like this? the truth I like more with the dress, as it is not their style jacket and pants, the boots can see in the jumping and running, under her dress, perhaps this clothes is more suitable for laura, the colors can be changed
Hmmm....I agree what you said with go with the dress for both characters not the jacket and pants (While Carmilla looks more gothic looking while Laura looks more normal looking like this: http://www.deviantart.com/art/Victorian-Lady-in-Grey-Dress-338763783 (http://www.deviantart.com/art/Victorian-Lady-in-Grey-Dress-338763783)] making the two more distinctive which perhaps Laura represents the commonly 'sexual repressed' look which no skin but her head is visible in her dress, while Carmilla is the opposite which she's rather 'sexually open'). As for the boots when we see when they're running & jumping, I think they're rather black boots and bare legs something like this: http://bodistyles.com/victorian-gothic-dresses-victorian-gothic-wedding/ (http://bodistyles.com/victorian-gothic-dresses-victorian-gothic-wedding/) (maybe for both characters?) of course we all know for sure that Victorian women showing even their calfs is 'scandalous' however...which is the appeal comes from which their bare legs are sometimes shown. I think Laura's dress color could be bluish or whitish color (since her dress is more 'colorful' than Carmillas).
Also last referance, I can totally picture Carmilla holding a sword like this:
And also here is few pictures how 'flowing' the dresses can be which could help you when doing their movements perhaps...
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You might want to revisit your last three sprites there Dracula. She's looking more stiff rather then retaining her hourglass figure. This is causing the sprite to look more angular and less like a woman it's supposed to represent.
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BTW I have a new design idea for Laura:
http://emmareilly.deviantart.com/art/Miss-Sinclair-Meets-the-Wolfman-383268070 (http://emmareilly.deviantart.com/art/Miss-Sinclair-Meets-the-Wolfman-383268070)
Or maybe Laura can after all wear trousers to be more 'practical':
http://emmareilly.deviantart.com/art/Genevieve-s-Practical-Costume-383270057 (http://emmareilly.deviantart.com/art/Genevieve-s-Practical-Costume-383270057)
Since the description says:
Ready for a costume ball, Miss Sinclair?" Parsons asked her, bushy eyebrows climbing his forehead.
Genevieve ducked her face self consciously and fixed him with a solemn stare. "It seems to me that in the event of running and fighting for my life, trousers may be a more practical option. Perhaps it is more romantic to die with full skirts and a reputation besmirched - I fear we haven't the time for such nonsense."
Which makes me question if a dress is practical or not, which I wonder maybe Laura might need trousers when she's human but maybe when she's a vampire, then 'practicability' get's thrown out of the window? Or maybe a fullskirt dress is 'practical'? Hmmm....Dracula what do you think about this?
Maybe you could make different versions of Laura, one being her "modest" dress, the other being a masquerade ball dress (looking like this (http://emmareilly.deviantart.com/art/Firebird-at-the-Masquerade-413469323) and this (http://emmareilly.deviantart.com/art/Masquerade-Dresses-381616584) which the woman in the left happens to be that stories incarnation of Carmilla....hmmm...a potential scene of Laura meeting Carmilla in a Masquerade ball perhaps?), and the other being her 'practical' clothing?
Or maybe Laura should only have one appearance or rather she should only wear a dress (both 'normal' and 'ballgown') or maybe both Carmilla and Laura wear ballgowns (that could somehow be 'combat' flexible worthy)?
Basically I think the main theme is: Kicking Ass in All Her Finery (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/KickingAssInAllHerFinery).
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I was going to ask if there is to be a strong female lead could we then expect there to be an Incubus plot line as well as a potential Succubus appearance?
Then I saw this post.
http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php?topic=2916.15 (http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php?topic=2916.15)
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Then I saw this post.
http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php?topic=2916.15 (http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php?topic=2916.15)
Uhh.....*gulp* (possibly?)
Well...things can always change you know and things don't have to be 100% to the books you know but I hope this isn't true though....
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how this? I have not had much time to sit and make sprites, not think I can help a lot, but this is what I did, I hope you serve something, you can modify it as you like :P
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how this? I have not had much time to sit and make sprites, not think I can help a lot, but this is what I did, I hope you serve something, you can modify it as you like :P
Well to be honest I like the original sprite (the black hair/dress one) better but maybe somehow could improve on the hourglass figure while retaining the elegance of the originals. Maybe you could make different variations with the ballgown of the original and it's slit leg version (except add boots on her legs) for Carmilla.
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Nice sprites there Dracula! I've always thought of Carmilla wearing red rather then black for some obscure reason. And not just because that's what she's usually featured in in most medias.
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hey zydalc I do not understand what is the expression hourglass figure? :P sorry, amm and yes, i'll see what I can change :). And thanks X is good to know that you like, in fact if look better with red, I'll see how it is :D
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Man, these proposals, the which have the dove look better :D, I can not think ideas, laura could have two suits. by the way, this dress of Laura was of Annette xD
I hope you serve this :D, if anyone can help with movements or modify them, they are there.
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Man, these proposals, the which have the dove look better :D, I can not think ideas, laura could have two suits. by the way, this dress of Laura was of Annette xD
I hope you serve this :D, if anyone can help with movements or modify them, they are there.
Still though I think you could keep the black dress or use it as a variation, and also try to make a slit leg version of the black dress showing her legs not to mention over the knee flat black boots like this (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hw7wNmRr0YM/TUmKd3MB1_I/AAAAAAAAADc/LD1ePSwS9Yw/s1600/bppts+2.jpg).
Or another idea...maybe you could mix more darker crimson red and black in Carmilla's dress while her hair is raven black (which is the color I mostly prefer Carmilla's hair to be while Laura's is Brown making them distinctive).
But however I still prefer the black dress/hair of the original which you could use that as the 'final' design and make the other designs as 'extra customs' maybe.
and oh..maybe you could add some red eyes to Carmilla or maybe making her sprite detailed so we can briefly see her face?
Also I think this could be the 'cover' for the game perhaps...
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That's a nice image you found Zydalc. It would definitely suit Carmilla when she's doing the hero thing. I also agree with making her red dress slightly darker. Crimson is a darker red although not by much so you should have to worry about a drastic color-change there Dracula. As for her hair, I'd also agree that black you work better. It would help to differentiate the contrast between her and her hair color and dress color. And here. I found this image on the net back in the late 90's after becoming curious about Carmilla. Not sure who did the image even though the sig is on the piece, but I can't read it :P
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here are other versions of colors, laura dress can be colored, any suggestions? xD
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here are other versions of colors, laura dress can be colored, any suggestions? xD
I think you could make Carmilla's boots a little higher like over the knee and also black (including matching the black dress) like the picture I've posted a thread back (http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php/topic,7759.msg172894.html#msg172894).
Also I think I would settle in with the first two sprites than the third one and also I think Carmilla could two appearances which the full dress is how she first appears and the slit leg is how she later appears or maybe her alternative appearance (which maybe the slit leg one could help you animate her full dress appearance in the same way).
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BTW if anyone especially Dracula is still here or working on this, I found a preview pdf from this site (http://www.previewsworld.com/Home/1/1/71/954?stockItemID=DEC141157) from the recent issue of "Lady Mechnika" which has a better picture of the dress I imagine Carmilla would be wearing except it's all black (or maybe black and red).
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That's quite the steampunk outfit :)
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Can you provide some 2x shots?
The in-game sprites are kinda hard on the eyes from that size, and I would really like to look at the minor details in the sprites.
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Here's a better picture of Carmilla's conceptional evening gown (except everything colored purple would be instead crimson red while the rest of her dress will remain black).
Also her off the shoulder neckline would look more like this: http://evaporatedmemories.deviantart.com/art/Civil-War-Ballgown-193354166 (http://evaporatedmemories.deviantart.com/art/Civil-War-Ballgown-193354166)
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I wonder if this still being worked on?
Well I have another concept...
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I was looking at the Spriters Resource site and I've a very good reference (or base?) how to animate Carmilla as taken from the Vampire Lady sprites from the game "BloodRayne: Betrayal"...somewhat
http://www.spriters-resource.com/pc_computer/bloodraynebetrayal/sheet/66710/ (http://www.spriters-resource.com/pc_computer/bloodraynebetrayal/sheet/66710/)