Topic: "The Dragon Returns" - Castlevania Lords of Shadow Sequel (HERE BE SPOILER INFO)

[DarkPrinceAlucard]

I don't understand how anyone who knew what the score of LOS was about could make a complaint that the songs weren't catchy. What were you expecting? Bloody tears to break or something?

Because it was not their thing, it was not to their liking, is that so hard to understand?

Some people like to play a castlevania game with different music in mind, it doesn't have to be Bloody tears are anything like that, as I said earlier its subjective really.

Its ok if you like that kind of hollwood score/ambient type of music in your CV games, others do not.

What LOS set out to do was its own thing which is understandable, it set out to have that type of musical score and it did what it set out to do perfectly, but it does not mean that people who know what the score set out to do should automatically be onboard with it, especially when they are accustomed to a different type of musical score in the series.

[Kingshango]

Watch out guys, Spain Killer isn't the only one with a copy of the game. The game has leaked out in certain places already so heads up.

[EstebanT]

I feel like I'm talking to myself here.

Stop using the word "catchy". I don't want catchy in lords of shadow, it obviously doesn't fit.
Music can be not "catchy" and still manage to not bore you to death. There is such thing as balance. Listen to Crystal Teardrops and you will get what I mean.

Am I the only one who thinks this way? Certainly not.

[EstebanT]

Watch out guys, Spain Killer isn't the only one with a copy of the game. The game has leaked out in certain places already so heads up.

Anyone in specific?

[Maedhros]

Watch out guys, Spain Killer isn't the only one with a copy of the game. The game has leaked out in certain places already so heads up.

Where?

[Kingshango]

Anyone in specific?

Another review copy.

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He says that the stealth segment with the minotaur is nowhere near as hard as Spainkiller says it is and that he didn't use his abilities(like bats and daggers) to distract him.

[Maedhros]

Another review copy.

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He says that the stealth segment with the minotaur is nowhere near as hard as Spainkiller says it is and that he didn't use his abilities(like bats and daggers) to distract him.

Ah, so /v/.

[Belmontoya]

I agree with you EstanbanT

In my personal taste, LOS was a good score, and not boring.

In that same taste, MOF was a boring score.

Maybe it was it was because the nature of the game was very different, but maybe not.

Because it was not their thing, it was not to their liking, is that so hard to understand?

Some people like to play a castlevania game with different music in mind, it doesn't have to be Bloody tears are anything like that, as I said earlier its subjective really.

Its ok if you like that kind of hollwood score/ambient type of music in your CV games, others do not.

What LOS set out to do was its own thing which is understandable, it set out to have that type of musical score and it did what it set out to do perfectly, but it does not mean that people who know what the score set out to do should automatically be onboard with it, especially when they are accustomed to a different type of musical score in the series.

I'm not sure if you're actually reading what I'm saying or not.

I didn't say everyone had to like it. I said complaining about it for not having catchy songs is complaining about the wrong thing. If you want to criticize it objectively, then criticize it for what it is. For example, complaining that the moods don't always match up, or that the vibe was wrong. They did not intend to put catchy upbeat music in LOS. If you don't like that, that's fine, but that doesn't mean that the score was a failure, or a low point in the series. It means that you just don't like the angle they took. Many long time fans like myself appreciate that they did something different with LOS.

I am clearly saying here that it's fine if people disagree with the angle they took. Meaning it's fine if it's not "their thing".

What is irritating to me is when someone tries to critique the score under the pretense of it being something other than what it is meant to be. I also find it irritating when people throw this term "hollywood" around. All styles and genres of music are used in films. Elctronic, rock, blue grass, virtually everything. There is no typical score for films. Fully orchestrated music that doesn't follow a traditional structure is not the default definition of a score for film.

No one is debating that music is subjective. Everyone likes different things, that is fine.

If you still don't see what I'm trying to say then I'm going to give up, because this is getting exhausting.

[Dremn]

Watch out guys, Spain Killer isn't the only one with a copy of the game. The game has leaked out in certain places already so heads up.

Awesome, bring on the gameplay footage.

[Kingshango]

Awesome, bring on the gameplay footage.

Give it a week or so, I can feel the water running.

[DarkPrinceAlucard]

If you still don't see what I'm trying to say then I'm going to give up, because this is getting exhausting.

lol some people take this stuff to seriously.

Your getting irritated and exhausted over a discussion about a video game's music score?

Just go ahead and give up then if its getting to you so much.

[EstebanT]

lol some people take this stuff to seriously.

Your getting irritated and exhausted over a discussion about a video game's music score?

Just go ahead and give up then if its getting to you so much.

Its pretty irritating to have people not acknowledge your points at all. I too am getting exahusted of this argument getting nowhere. And im not taking it too seriously, as i'm sure neither is he... But wasting time talking to nobody sucks.

[Ahasverus]

@Alucard It's because you haven't understood that music does not consist on catchyness and that there is a reason why cellphone ringtones don't have award ceremonies, because music goes deeper than that. I'd suggest you to read the review and understand the professional critic angle and then decide if you agree or disagree with it.

About the leaks, stop giving me false hopes 

[DarkPrinceAlucard]

@Alucard It's because you haven't understood that music does not consist on catchyness and that there is a reason why cellphone ringtones don't have award ceremonies, because music goes deeper than that. I'd suggest you to read the review and understand the professional critic angle and then decide if you agree or disagree with it.

Lol how did I fail to understand?

Did all of you guys miss the part of my post earlier where i pointed out that LOS's score set out to do something different with its score it and did it perfectly?

I never said that because it did not have any catchy tunes that the soundtrack was not deep or had no meaning to it, I only gave my opinion on what I as well as others expect from a CV soundtrack and why its so off putting to some.

[Belmontoya]

lol some people take this stuff to seriously.

Your getting irritated and exhausted over a discussion about a video game's music score?

Just go ahead and give up then if its getting to you so much.

No. I'm getting exhausted because you keep missing my point! But I just downed a monster, so...

I'm musician and writer myself, so I am very passionate about music. Castlevania has been my favorite video game music for over 20 years, so I get especially passionate about this games music. 

I am also currently making music for a fan Castlevania game. I spend hours at work each day analyzing the different music of the series over the years. I appreciate all of it and I make a real effort to understand the motive of the different composers.

I will admit that I may be a little obsessed right now, and overly sensitive to the topic of CV music. But damn it, I can't help it!